Guest guest Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 Hi , Not a stupid question at all! The answer is maybe/maybe not. Citric acid, as an added ingredient is often derived from corn. Your more likely to have an issue with citric acid if msg sensitive then if citrus sensitive. However, citric acid MAY be derived from citrus, so in that case, it may be problematic. It also depends on " how allergic " to citrus she is. I'm " allergic " to rose hips, but for years, small amounts, occasionally, were fine. Now, that said, I broke out in a serious whole body rash a few years ago after consuming herbal tea with rose hips AND macadamia nuts. . . Was the rash an allergic reaction to rose hips, macedamias, or some viral infection? (I never felt sick . . ) I'll probably never know. Thankfully, avoiding rose hips AND macedamia nuts is pretty easy.) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT PS. More info: Citric acid is found naturally in citrus fruits as well as in other fruits like apple. It is also found in coffee. Interestingly, it is made commercially by fermentation with aspergillus niger. It is possible that the patient is reacting to the mould. This mould is also known as black bread mould. Various enzymes are derived from this mould and are used in the baking industry, some resulting in allergic reactions such as asthma, nausea, vomiting and headache. I will fax you a list of items that may contain citric acid. ref. Dr. Steinman - Allergy Advisor program. Where is Citric Acid found? Citric acid is used in soft drinks and in laxatives and cathartics. Its salts, the citrates, have many uses, e.g., ferric ammonium citrate is used in making blueprint paper. Sour salt, used in cooking, is citric acid. From _http://www.raysahelian.com/citric.html_ (http://www.raysahelian.com/citric.html) How is Citric Acid made? Citric and lactic acids are produced by fermentation which utilized a carbohydrate source such as corn based starch and sugar beet molasses. Fermentation yields a crude purity product which requires further refining. One refining technique utilities a precipitation process, this process first uses lime to produce calcium citrate solids, this is then contacted with sulfuric acid which produces a partially purified soluble citric acid and calcium sulfate by product. Another technique used is solvent extraction. These processes produce streams which require demineralization by ion exchange. Citric acid can be extracted from the juice of citrus fruits by adding calcium oxide (lime) to form calcium citrate, an insoluble precipitate that can be collected by filtration; the citric acid can be recovered from its calcium salt by adding sulfuric acid. Citric acid is obtained also by fermentation of glucose with the aid of the mold Aspergillus niger and can be obtained synthetically from acetone or glycerol. In a message dated 9/15/2009 7:32:44 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, kboehme@... writes: Good Day to All - This might be a stupid question but when a patient says they are allergic to citrus does that include citric acid? TIA! Boehme Manager, Clinical Nutrition Meriter Health Services Phone: <_file://kboehme@file://kboeh_ (file://kboehmemeriter/) >_kboehme@..._ (mailto:kboehme@...) <mailto:_kboehme@..._ (mailto:kboehme@...) > Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Consultant, Writer, Speaker Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corporation (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@... Specialist in IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and inflammatory conditions which are often triggered by adverse reactions to foods and chemicals. Co-Author of the Certified LEAP Therapist Training Course. IMPORTANT - This e-mail message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, you are hereby notified that we do not consent to any reading, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail message. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and telephone ( toll free) and destroy the transmitted information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 Thanks Jan for the response. This isn't a specific patient just anyone in general who indicates an allergy to citrus. I have always wondered if I should eliminate citric acid. Your response does pose another question: Why msg from citric acid derived from corn? Thanks! ________________________________ From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Dineright4@... Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:11 AM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Citric Acid Hi , Not a stupid question at all! The answer is maybe/maybe not. Citric acid, as an added ingredient is often derived from corn. Your more likely to have an issue with citric acid if msg sensitive then if citrus sensitive. However, citric acid MAY be derived from citrus, so in that case, it may be problematic. It also depends on " how allergic " to citrus she is. I'm " allergic " to rose hips, but for years, small amounts, occasionally, were fine. Now, that said, I broke out in a serious whole body rash a few years ago after consuming herbal tea with rose hips AND macadamia nuts. . . Was the rash an allergic reaction to rose hips, macedamias, or some viral infection? (I never felt sick . . ) I'll probably never know. Thankfully, avoiding rose hips AND macedamia nuts is pretty easy.) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT PS. More info: Citric acid is found naturally in citrus fruits as well as in other fruits like apple. It is also found in coffee. Interestingly, it is made commercially by fermentation with aspergillus niger. It is possible that the patient is reacting to the mould. This mould is also known as black bread mould. Various enzymes are derived from this mould and are used in the baking industry, some resulting in allergic reactions such as asthma, nausea, vomiting and headache. I will fax you a list of items that may contain citric acid. ref. Dr. Steinman - Allergy Advisor program. Where is Citric Acid found? Citric acid is used in soft drinks and in laxatives and cathartics. Its salts, the citrates, have many uses, e.g., ferric ammonium citrate is used in making blueprint paper. Sour salt, used in cooking, is citric acid. From _http://www.raysahelian.com/citric.html_ (http://www.raysahelian.com/citric.html) How is Citric Acid made? Citric and lactic acids are produced by fermentation which utilized a carbohydrate source such as corn based starch and sugar beet molasses. Fermentation yields a crude purity product which requires further refining. One refining technique utilities a precipitation process, this process first uses lime to produce calcium citrate solids, this is then contacted with sulfuric acid which produces a partially purified soluble citric acid and calcium sulfate by product. Another technique used is solvent extraction. These processes produce streams which require demineralization by ion exchange. Citric acid can be extracted from the juice of citrus fruits by adding calcium oxide (lime) to form calcium citrate, an insoluble precipitate that can be collected by filtration; the citric acid can be recovered from its calcium salt by adding sulfuric acid. Citric acid is obtained also by fermentation of glucose with the aid of the mold Aspergillus niger and can be obtained synthetically from acetone or glycerol. In a message dated 9/15/2009 7:32:44 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, kboehme@...<mailto:kboehme%40meriter.com> writes: Good Day to All - This might be a stupid question but when a patient says they are allergic to citrus does that include citric acid? TIA! Boehme Manager, Clinical Nutrition Meriter Health Services Phone: <_file://kboehme@file://kboeh_ (file://kboehmemeriter/) >_kboehme@...<mailto:_kboehme%40meriter.kbo>_ (mailto:kboehme@...<mailto:kboehme%40meriter.com>) <mailto:_kboehme@...<mailto:_kboehme%40meriter.kbo>_ (mailto:kboehme@...<mailto:kboehme%40meriter.com>) > Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Consultant, Writer, Speaker Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corporation (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@...<mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> Specialist in IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and inflammatory conditions which are often triggered by adverse reactions to foods and chemicals. Co-Author of the Certified LEAP Therapist Training Course. IMPORTANT - This e-mail message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, you are hereby notified that we do not consent to any reading, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail message. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and telephone ( toll free) and destroy the transmitted information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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