Re: Susie - weight loss...and a question

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Susie said...

> It's just my personal belief, based on what I've seen in my large family,

> that type 2's are " born diabetic " and it's only a matter of time, based on

> their eating and exercise habits, before things get bad enough that they

are

> diagnosed. We see grade school kids now who live on junk food, play video

> games, watch TV and noodle on the computer, who weigh 200 pounds and are

> diagnosed type 2. I believe if they had lived like me, participating in

many

> sports, denying myself food, and maturing before the advent of junk food,

> they might have been able to postpone diagnosis for many years - perhaps a

> lifetime, depending on their propensity to become diabetic. Our modern

> lifestyle and diet just don't lend themselves to avoiding a diabetes

> diagnosis, if we have inherited the genes. I encourage type 2's to keep a

> watch on their children and grandchildren, looking for signs, such as

> unexplained weight gain, having 9-lb. babies, etc.

I have to totally agree here..although there are no other known diabetics in

my family I feel I was born diabetic also! I can look back thru my life an

see the signs...the birth of my first Daughter...an almost 10 lb baby...with

that pregnancy I developed toxemia, had massive weight gain high bp, and

although I was never diagnosed as having gestational diabetes I believe I

was diabetic during that pregnancy...I recently found out that children born

of diabetics have a high rate of congenital heart defects...she was born

with one.

After that pregnancy I developed hypoglycemia and continued with that for

years...I have had a goiter since the age of 21 (a sign of autoimmune

disease), and have been in a constant battle for the past 28 years to try to

get excess weight off....I was always a carb binger...looking at this all

now in hindsight I can see this coming since my first pregnancy 28 years

ago.

I think knowing that history I have is why the effects the LC woe has on me

amazed me so...I am so used to craving carbs it's hard to get used to the

fact (mentally) I no longer crave.

Now...regarding weight loss I have a question...I have been on LC (appx 30

grams carbs) for exactly 38 days. My BG and BP have totally stabilized and I

was able to stop the Glucophage XR I was taking, and my energy level is much

better then it had been when I had high bg readings....but I am not

experiencing any real weight loss. In the first two weeks I did loose a

total of 10 lbs...water i assume....since then I did gain 3 back and then

lost the 3 again...I assume water also...monthly cycle.

When I had recently seen my eye doctor (a low carber) he said it can often

take 4 to 6 months to begin to loose weigh on a LC woe....he said this was

particularly true of diabetics because we have to get past out insulin

resistance. My Husband is doing basically the same as I am so far as his

weight goes...lost 7 in the first 2 weeks and then nothing. I am trying to

keep this in perspective...and if what the doc said is true then I guess I

really shouldn't worry about weight loss till the end of the summer.

I was wondering...how does our experiences compare to others on the list

that have been LC'ing longer then my Husband and I? Is what is happening

with us normal? And is it possible I'm expecting too much from the diet and

maybe I should just be happy with the fact that we have managed to get our

disease process under control? I guess I just need some reassurance that we

are doing this right.

Deb

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Susie said...

> It's just my personal belief, based on what I've seen in my large family,

> that type 2's are " born diabetic " and it's only a matter of time, based on

> their eating and exercise habits, before things get bad enough that they

are

> diagnosed. We see grade school kids now who live on junk food, play video

> games, watch TV and noodle on the computer, who weigh 200 pounds and are

> diagnosed type 2. I believe if they had lived like me, participating in

many

> sports, denying myself food, and maturing before the advent of junk food,

> they might have been able to postpone diagnosis for many years - perhaps a

> lifetime, depending on their propensity to become diabetic. Our modern

> lifestyle and diet just don't lend themselves to avoiding a diabetes

> diagnosis, if we have inherited the genes. I encourage type 2's to keep a

> watch on their children and grandchildren, looking for signs, such as

> unexplained weight gain, having 9-lb. babies, etc.

I have to totally agree here..although there are no other known diabetics in

my family I feel I was born diabetic also! I can look back thru my life an

see the signs...the birth of my first Daughter...an almost 10 lb baby...with

that pregnancy I developed toxemia, had massive weight gain high bp, and

although I was never diagnosed as having gestational diabetes I believe I

was diabetic during that pregnancy...I recently found out that children born

of diabetics have a high rate of congenital heart defects...she was born

with one.

After that pregnancy I developed hypoglycemia and continued with that for

years...I have had a goiter since the age of 21 (a sign of autoimmune

disease), and have been in a constant battle for the past 28 years to try to

get excess weight off....I was always a carb binger...looking at this all

now in hindsight I can see this coming since my first pregnancy 28 years

ago.

I think knowing that history I have is why the effects the LC woe has on me

amazed me so...I am so used to craving carbs it's hard to get used to the

fact (mentally) I no longer crave.

Now...regarding weight loss I have a question...I have been on LC (appx 30

grams carbs) for exactly 38 days. My BG and BP have totally stabilized and I

was able to stop the Glucophage XR I was taking, and my energy level is much

better then it had been when I had high bg readings....but I am not

experiencing any real weight loss. In the first two weeks I did loose a

total of 10 lbs...water i assume....since then I did gain 3 back and then

lost the 3 again...I assume water also...monthly cycle.

When I had recently seen my eye doctor (a low carber) he said it can often

take 4 to 6 months to begin to loose weigh on a LC woe....he said this was

particularly true of diabetics because we have to get past out insulin

resistance. My Husband is doing basically the same as I am so far as his

weight goes...lost 7 in the first 2 weeks and then nothing. I am trying to

keep this in perspective...and if what the doc said is true then I guess I

really shouldn't worry about weight loss till the end of the summer.

I was wondering...how does our experiences compare to others on the list

that have been LC'ing longer then my Husband and I? Is what is happening

with us normal? And is it possible I'm expecting too much from the diet and

maybe I should just be happy with the fact that we have managed to get our

disease process under control? I guess I just need some reassurance that we

are doing this right.

Deb

[Guest guest]

Hi, Deb!

> I have to totally agree here..although there are no other known diabetics in

> my family I feel I was born diabetic also! I can look back thru my life an

> see the signs...the birth of my first Daughter...an almost 10 lb baby...with

> that pregnancy I developed toxemia, had massive weight gain high bp, and

> although I was never diagnosed as having gestational diabetes I believe I

> was diabetic during that pregnancy...I recently found out that children born

> of diabetics have a high rate of congenital heart defects...she was born

> with one.

Hmmmm. I was 9lb. 3oz at birth [i was my mother's firstborn, she claims

I was way late, my grandfather thinks her math might have been off ;-)]

and was born with a benign heart murmur [saw a cardiologist a few years

ago about a different problem and was assured the murmur was absolutely

not a problem]. My mother was diagnosed as diabetic about two years ago,

at age 48.

ette

[Guest guest]

Hi, Deb!

> I have to totally agree here..although there are no other known diabetics in

> my family I feel I was born diabetic also! I can look back thru my life an

> see the signs...the birth of my first Daughter...an almost 10 lb baby...with

> that pregnancy I developed toxemia, had massive weight gain high bp, and

> although I was never diagnosed as having gestational diabetes I believe I

> was diabetic during that pregnancy...I recently found out that children born

> of diabetics have a high rate of congenital heart defects...she was born

> with one.

Hmmmm. I was 9lb. 3oz at birth [i was my mother's firstborn, she claims

I was way late, my grandfather thinks her math might have been off ;-)]

and was born with a benign heart murmur [saw a cardiologist a few years

ago about a different problem and was assured the murmur was absolutely

not a problem]. My mother was diagnosed as diabetic about two years ago,

at age 48.

ette

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ette said...

> Hmmmm. I was 9lb. 3oz at birth [i was my mother's firstborn, she claims

> I was way late, my grandfather thinks her math might have been off ;-)]

> and was born with a benign heart murmur [saw a cardiologist a few years

> ago about a different problem and was assured the murmur was absolutely

> not a problem]. My mother was diagnosed as diabetic about two years ago,

> at age 48.

I have since warned my older Daughter (the almost 10 lb baby) what this

could mean to her in the future so far as the possibility of developing dm

goes...maybe she can avoid falling into the trap I did because of my

ignorance to what was happening.

Her heart defect (although it had to be corrected) was also in the kinda

minor range (if you look at the total heart problem scheme of things) but I

do think it's possible my BG during pregnancy could have been the cause.

Deb

[Guest guest]

Hi, Deb!

> > Hmmmm. I was 9lb. 3oz at birth [i was my mother's firstborn, she claims

> > I was way late, my grandfather thinks her math might have been off ;-)]

> > and was born with a benign heart murmur [saw a cardiologist a few years

> > ago about a different problem and was assured the murmur was absolutely

> > not a problem]. My mother was diagnosed as diabetic about two years ago,

> > at age 48.

> I have since warned my older Daughter (the almost 10 lb baby) what this

> could mean to her in the future so far as the possibility of developing dm

> goes...maybe she can avoid falling into the trap I did because of my

> ignorance to what was happening.

So babies born over 9lb. are at greater risk for diabetes? I've wondered

about that.

> Her heart defect (although it had to be corrected) was also in the kinda

> minor range (if you look at the total heart problem scheme of things) but I

> do think it's possible my BG during pregnancy could have been the cause.

[shrug] My younger brother was born with such severe heart problems that

he didn't live long [a matter of weeks]. My mother blames having

conceived him while on birth control pills for his problems.

ette

[Guest guest]

Hi, Deb!

> > Hmmmm. I was 9lb. 3oz at birth [i was my mother's firstborn, she claims

> > I was way late, my grandfather thinks her math might have been off ;-)]

> > and was born with a benign heart murmur [saw a cardiologist a few years

> > ago about a different problem and was assured the murmur was absolutely

> > not a problem]. My mother was diagnosed as diabetic about two years ago,

> > at age 48.

> I have since warned my older Daughter (the almost 10 lb baby) what this

> could mean to her in the future so far as the possibility of developing dm

> goes...maybe she can avoid falling into the trap I did because of my

> ignorance to what was happening.

So babies born over 9lb. are at greater risk for diabetes? I've wondered

about that.

> Her heart defect (although it had to be corrected) was also in the kinda

> minor range (if you look at the total heart problem scheme of things) but I

> do think it's possible my BG during pregnancy could have been the cause.

[shrug] My younger brother was born with such severe heart problems that

he didn't live long [a matter of weeks]. My mother blames having

conceived him while on birth control pills for his problems.

ette

[Guest guest]

ette wrote:

<< was born with a benign heart murmur [saw a cardiologist a few years ago

about a different problem and was assured the murmur was absolutely not a

problem]. >>

I'm interested in this issue. I'm finding people with " diabetic genes " who

are diagnosed with " benign heart murmurs, " including my husband, sister and

mother. I say that doctors need to give diabetics special consideration. So

many type 2's have heart trouble that some researchers call type 2 " a form

of heart trouble. "

I went to the ER with arrhythmias. The ER doc admitted she was about to send

me home with a diagnosis such as " indigestion " or " stress, " but she happened

to have the stethoscope on my back when I had an episode. (The first time,

back in Carolina, I was indeed sent home with, basically, a pat on the

back.) She assured my husband that she too had arrhythmias, and they were

absolutely harmless. Arrhythmias can kill diabetics. I have since been

diagnosed with left ventricular hypertrophy, as well as a thickening of my

septum. My doctor and I are in wait-and-watch mode.

Diabetics should be very vigilant about irregularities with their hearts.

Susie

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In a message dated 4/11/02 7:53:26 PM !!!First Boot!!!, seanette@...

writes:

My son Josh was born weighing in at 10lb 6oz. and he had a serious heart

defect. He had to stay in the hospital for 5 weeks and had to have 2 open

heart surgeries. I am happy to say today that he had his oxygen sats checked

and he is 100 YEAH!!!!!!!! That is one way they can tell how well his heart

is doing.

Kathy

<< > I have to totally agree here..although there are no other known

diabetics in

> my family I feel I was born diabetic also! I can look back thru my life an

> see the signs...the birth of my first Daughter...an almost 10 lb

baby...with

> that pregnancy I developed toxemia, had massive weight gain high bp, and

> although I was never diagnosed as having gestational diabetes I believe I

> was diabetic during that pregnancy...I recently found out that children

born

> of diabetics have a high rate of congenital heart defects...she was born

> with one.

Hmmmm. I was 9lb. 3oz at birth [i was my mother's firstborn, she claims

I was way late, my grandfather thinks her math might have been off ;-)]

and was born with a benign heart murmur [saw a cardiologist a few years

ago about a different problem and was assured the murmur was absolutely

not a problem]. My mother was diagnosed as diabetic about two years ago,

at age 48.

ette >>