Re: Low Carb-The New School??

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In a message dated 4/11/02 9:38:12 AM Central Daylight Time,

bee.bop@... writes:

<< is this a rare thing nowadays? >>

No...my nutritionist looked over my low carb diet and told me I was the first

to do it correctly. The medical field does have a great problem with the

level of saturated fat in the diet that is commonly referred to Atkins. Low

carb diets can eat from all food groups, be high in fiber and low in

saturated fat but high in good fats and be a high variety diet.

Things might be a changing.....

ressy

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In a message dated 4/11/02 9:38:12 AM Central Daylight Time,

bee.bop@... writes:

<< is this a rare thing nowadays? >>

No...my nutritionist looked over my low carb diet and told me I was the first

to do it correctly. The medical field does have a great problem with the

level of saturated fat in the diet that is commonly referred to Atkins. Low

carb diets can eat from all food groups, be high in fiber and low in

saturated fat but high in good fats and be a high variety diet.

Things might be a changing.....

ressy

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I think it's pretty rare...and you're pretty lucky! Vicki

In a message dated 04/11/2002 7:38:04 AM US Mountain Standard Time,

bee.bop@... writes:

> Maybe my doc, nutritionist are from a 'new school' of practitioners, but

> whenever they talk i listen. And they even talk to each other about my

> progress. is this a rare thing nowadays?

>

> ally

>

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I think it's pretty rare...and you're pretty lucky! Vicki

In a message dated 04/11/2002 7:38:04 AM US Mountain Standard Time,

bee.bop@... writes:

> Maybe my doc, nutritionist are from a 'new school' of practitioners, but

> whenever they talk i listen. And they even talk to each other about my

> progress. is this a rare thing nowadays?

>

> ally

>

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I think it's pretty rare...and you're pretty lucky! Vicki

In a message dated 04/11/2002 7:38:04 AM US Mountain Standard Time,

bee.bop@... writes:

> Maybe my doc, nutritionist are from a 'new school' of practitioners, but

> whenever they talk i listen. And they even talk to each other about my

> progress. is this a rare thing nowadays?

>

> ally

>

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>>Maybe my doc, nutritionist are from a 'new school' of practitioners, but

>whenever they talk i listen. And they even talk to each other about my

>progress. is this a rare thing nowadays?

>

Very rare, but getting better. 2 years ago I went to Duke and the doctor

said don't do Atkins, your kidneys can't handle it. We will just put you on

insulin, but I will have to put you on much of it, that won't be good. She

said I really don't know what to do with you.

So my blood sugar was 425, so I went back and got on the internet and

searched on Atkins and a study popped up that they were doing at Duke

testing people on Atkins that were diabetic and had had a heart attack.

I was so mad! I switched doctors, went on Atkins and never looked back. This

was the day of reckoning for me.

You are very lucky.

Phyllis

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[Guest guest]

>>Maybe my doc, nutritionist are from a 'new school' of practitioners, but

>whenever they talk i listen. And they even talk to each other about my

>progress. is this a rare thing nowadays?

>

Very rare, but getting better. 2 years ago I went to Duke and the doctor

said don't do Atkins, your kidneys can't handle it. We will just put you on

insulin, but I will have to put you on much of it, that won't be good. She

said I really don't know what to do with you.

So my blood sugar was 425, so I went back and got on the internet and

searched on Atkins and a study popped up that they were doing at Duke

testing people on Atkins that were diabetic and had had a heart attack.

I was so mad! I switched doctors, went on Atkins and never looked back. This

was the day of reckoning for me.

You are very lucky.

Phyllis

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allison wrote:

>

> I read about some of you folks bashing Dr.s for wanting you to stick to the

> food pyramid or be damned.

>

....

> It then dawned on me, that my doctor wasn't evil, he was truly tryin to help

> me discipline myself with some lo-carb guidelines in place.

>

> Maybe my doc, nutritionist are from a 'new school' of practitioners, but

> whenever they talk i listen. And they even talk to each other about my

> progress. is this a rare thing nowadays?

> ally

Ally,

My experience is that, yes it is still rare. You are indeed fortunate

to have a medical team that seems to really understand what it takes

to control blood glucose. Treasure them!!!

I have seen posts from a few with experiences like yours on a this and

another list that I am on. Most are still prescribed high carb plans

and the meds to counteract them. That's how many wind up on the list.

Asking how to control when the plan they are given doesn't work.

My experience is that I have yet to meet a diabetic in person that was

prescribed a diet that was anything other than the high-carb type of

diet (ADA, " Food Pyramid " , Exchange, or whatever you want to call it).

Additionally, some Drs. think that testing once a day (or week) is

unnecessary (some consider more testing to be " obsessive!). After all,

if we do what they tell us, we will be in control--Right!? When we

don't achieve control on their plan, then we are obviously

" non-compliant " .

We are typically given bg goals that put us at an unnecessarily

elevated risk for complications and then told that we will progress to

needing insulin and complications. Of course we will if we only live

up to those goals (typically bg <150mg/dl, and HbA1c <7.0%).

All this being said, there are some glimmers of hope that things are

slowly changing. Your experience is another of those. Finally, there

is a discussion of lower bg/HbA1c goals, and recognition that

" tight-control " can delay, prevent, and even in some cases reverse

complications. Dr Bernstein was saying these things years ago, and

now, things are heading his direction.

Oops, I was on that soapbox again! Sorry.

, T2

Oregon