Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Marla replied to me: > Ok there is suppose to be some %. I do not get it. Maybe I am off > today. But how do I get the %? What I would do is call the medic or the secretary and ask questions until I was satisfied with the answers. Also *get a copy of the report* and all other reports. The patient has a right to that info. Regards, Steve J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Marla replied to me: > Ok there is suppose to be some %. I do not get it. Maybe I am off > today. But how do I get the %? What I would do is call the medic or the secretary and ask questions until I was satisfied with the answers. Also *get a copy of the report* and all other reports. The patient has a right to that info. Regards, Steve J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Free PSA is expressed in a % number while the PSA is expressed in numbers with a decimal point. You might not have understood the nurse so I would go back to her and ask for a clarification. Steve's post explains the value of a free PSA test. Low fPSA is an indication that prostate cancer might be present. The most exact metod for determinng if prostate cancer is present is a biopsy, but it too is not accurate as sampling errors can give false negatives (positives are accurate). Ok there is suppose to be some %. I do not get it. Maybe I am off today. But how do I get the %? > > > The secretary gave me 's fPSA results over the phone but I have > > no clue what they mean. So I am posting them here in hopes someone can > > tell me what it means: > > > > fPSA: 5.09 > > fPSA ratio: 0.43 > > 0.09 > > > > It is all numbers to me. He still has to have the biopsy says the > > urologist. But can someone please explain the numbers? > > Please see my 9/10 response on the thread " all new to me. " > > I'll quote it here: > > " Here is what one of the best and brightest in the PCa field has written: > > 'A first step in investigation of a PSA elevated at 2.0 or above should > be a free-PSA percentage test. > > ï A free-PSA percentage of more than 25% is associated with a low > risk of prostate cancer. > > ï A free-PSA percentage of less than 15% is associated with a > higher risk of prostate cancer. > > An elevated PSA and a correspondingly low free PSA percentage can be > caused by prostatitis, which is a benign rather than a malignant > condition. If prostatitis symptoms are noted and/or if expressed > prostatic secretions are consistent with prostatitis, four to six weeks > of Cipro or similar antibiotic should be prescribed prior to > recommending a biopsy. At the end of the Cipro therapy, a repeat PSA > determination should be made. If there is significant lowering of the > PSA, an element of prostatitis is likely to be present. The PSA value > after antibiotic therapy will more aptly reflect the status of the > patient in the situation where a diagnosis of prostate cancer is > subsequently established.' > > See, " What Every Doctor Who Treats Male Patients Should Know " at > http://www.prostate- cancer.org/education/preclin/StrumPogliano_EveryDocShouldKnow.html > > Please note: A relatively low fPSA is NOT diagnostic of PCa, it only > alerts one to the probability. The only known test that is diagnostic is > the biopsy. > > I don't understand what " 0.09 " is supposed to represent. I suggest > asking the uro for answers. > > Regards, > > Steve J > -- T NowakTo learn about the Petition to Make Prostate Cancer a National Priority go to http://www.prostatecancerpetition.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Free PSA is expressed in a % number while the PSA is expressed in numbers with a decimal point. You might not have understood the nurse so I would go back to her and ask for a clarification. Steve's post explains the value of a free PSA test. Low fPSA is an indication that prostate cancer might be present. The most exact metod for determinng if prostate cancer is present is a biopsy, but it too is not accurate as sampling errors can give false negatives (positives are accurate). Ok there is suppose to be some %. I do not get it. Maybe I am off today. But how do I get the %? > > > The secretary gave me 's fPSA results over the phone but I have > > no clue what they mean. So I am posting them here in hopes someone can > > tell me what it means: > > > > fPSA: 5.09 > > fPSA ratio: 0.43 > > 0.09 > > > > It is all numbers to me. He still has to have the biopsy says the > > urologist. But can someone please explain the numbers? > > Please see my 9/10 response on the thread " all new to me. " > > I'll quote it here: > > " Here is what one of the best and brightest in the PCa field has written: > > 'A first step in investigation of a PSA elevated at 2.0 or above should > be a free-PSA percentage test. > > ï A free-PSA percentage of more than 25% is associated with a low > risk of prostate cancer. > > ï A free-PSA percentage of less than 15% is associated with a > higher risk of prostate cancer. > > An elevated PSA and a correspondingly low free PSA percentage can be > caused by prostatitis, which is a benign rather than a malignant > condition. If prostatitis symptoms are noted and/or if expressed > prostatic secretions are consistent with prostatitis, four to six weeks > of Cipro or similar antibiotic should be prescribed prior to > recommending a biopsy. At the end of the Cipro therapy, a repeat PSA > determination should be made. If there is significant lowering of the > PSA, an element of prostatitis is likely to be present. The PSA value > after antibiotic therapy will more aptly reflect the status of the > patient in the situation where a diagnosis of prostate cancer is > subsequently established.' > > See, " What Every Doctor Who Treats Male Patients Should Know " at > http://www.prostate- cancer.org/education/preclin/StrumPogliano_EveryDocShouldKnow.html > > Please note: A relatively low fPSA is NOT diagnostic of PCa, it only > alerts one to the probability. The only known test that is diagnostic is > the biopsy. > > I don't understand what " 0.09 " is supposed to represent. I suggest > asking the uro for answers. > > Regards, > > Steve J > -- T NowakTo learn about the Petition to Make Prostate Cancer a National Priority go to http://www.prostatecancerpetition.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Hi Marla, I don't think you should guess on this one. My own fPSA results were 0.10 Like you I was looking for a % figure and when I asked the Uro he said 0.10 meant 10%. On that basis 's fPSA would be 43% which is an encouraging figure. You need to get clarification from your Doctor. Best of luck, Chris Re: fPSA results? Ok i think this is how I calculate the %. Or at least this is how I was told. (.43 / 5.09)x 100= 8.45%..... or am I wrong?-Marla> > > The secretary gave me 's fPSA results over the phone but I have> > no clue what they mean. So I am posting them here in hopes someone can> > tell me what it means:> > > > fPSA: 5.09> > fPSA ratio: 0.43> > 0.09> > > > It is all numbers to me. He still has to have the biopsy says the> > urologist. But can someone please explain the numbers?> > Please see my 9/10 response on the thread "all new to me."> > I'll quote it here:> > "Here is what one of the best and brightest in the PCa field has written:> > 'A first step in investigation of a PSA elevated at 2.0 or above should> be a free-PSA percentage test.> > ï A free-PSA percentage of more than 25% is associated with a low> risk of prostate cancer.> > ï A free-PSA percentage of less than 15% is associated with a> higher risk of prostate cancer.> > An elevated PSA and a correspondingly low free PSA percentage can be> caused by prostatitis, which is a benign rather than a malignant> condition. If prostatitis symptoms are noted and/or if expressed> prostatic secretions are consistent with prostatitis, four to six weeks> of Cipro or similar antibiotic should be prescribed prior to> recommending a biopsy. At the end of the Cipro therapy, a repeat PSA> determination should be made. If there is significant lowering of the> PSA, an element of prostatitis is likely to be present. The PSA value> after antibiotic therapy will more aptly reflect the status of the> patient in the situation where a diagnosis of prostate cancer is> subsequently established.'> > See, "What Every Doctor Who Treats Male Patients Should Know" at> http://www.prostate-cancer.org/education/preclin/StrumPogliano_EveryDocShouldKnow.html> > Please note: A relatively low fPSA is NOT diagnostic of PCa, it only > alerts one to the probability. The only known test that is diagnostic is > the biopsy.> > I don't understand what "0.09" is supposed to represent. I suggest > asking the uro for answers.> > Regards,> > Steve J> Internal Virus Database is out of date.Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1664 - Release Date: 9/10/2008 6:00 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Sorry my last posting should have read 'NOT guess' Re: fPSA results? Ok i think this is how I calculate the %. Or at least this is how I was told. (.43 / 5.09)x 100= 8.45%..... or am I wrong?-Marla> > > The secretary gave me 's fPSA results over the phone but I have> > no clue what they mean. So I am posting them here in hopes someone can> > tell me what it means:> > > > fPSA: 5.09> > fPSA ratio: 0.43> > 0.09> > > > It is all numbers to me. He still has to have the biopsy says the> > urologist. But can someone please explain the numbers?> > Please see my 9/10 response on the thread "all new to me."> > I'll quote it here:> > "Here is what one of the best and brightest in the PCa field has written:> > 'A first step in investigation of a PSA elevated at 2.0 or above should> be a free-PSA percentage test.> > ï A free-PSA percentage of more than 25% is associated with a low> risk of prostate cancer.> > ï A free-PSA percentage of less than 15% is associated with a> higher risk of prostate cancer.> > An elevated PSA and a correspondingly low free PSA percentage can be> caused by prostatitis, which is a benign rather than a malignant> condition. If prostatitis symptoms are noted and/or if expressed> prostatic secretions are consistent with prostatitis, four to six weeks> of Cipro or similar antibiotic should be prescribed prior to> recommending a biopsy. At the end of the Cipro therapy, a repeat PSA> determination should be made. If there is significant lowering of the> PSA, an element of prostatitis is likely to be present. The PSA value> after antibiotic therapy will more aptly reflect the status of the> patient in the situation where a diagnosis of prostate cancer is> subsequently established.'> > See, "What Every Doctor Who Treats Male Patients Should Know" at> http://www.prostate-cancer.org/education/preclin/StrumPogliano_EveryDocShouldKnow.html> > Please note: A relatively low fPSA is NOT diagnostic of PCa, it only > alerts one to the probability. The only known test that is diagnostic is > the biopsy.> > I don't understand what "0.09" is supposed to represent. I suggest > asking the uro for answers.> > Regards,> > Steve J> Internal Virus Database is out of date.Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1664 - Release Date: 9/10/2008 6:00 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Sorry my last posting should have read 'NOT guess' Re: fPSA results? Ok i think this is how I calculate the %. Or at least this is how I was told. (.43 / 5.09)x 100= 8.45%..... or am I wrong?-Marla> > > The secretary gave me 's fPSA results over the phone but I have> > no clue what they mean. So I am posting them here in hopes someone can> > tell me what it means:> > > > fPSA: 5.09> > fPSA ratio: 0.43> > 0.09> > > > It is all numbers to me. He still has to have the biopsy says the> > urologist. But can someone please explain the numbers?> > Please see my 9/10 response on the thread "all new to me."> > I'll quote it here:> > "Here is what one of the best and brightest in the PCa field has written:> > 'A first step in investigation of a PSA elevated at 2.0 or above should> be a free-PSA percentage test.> > ï A free-PSA percentage of more than 25% is associated with a low> risk of prostate cancer.> > ï A free-PSA percentage of less than 15% is associated with a> higher risk of prostate cancer.> > An elevated PSA and a correspondingly low free PSA percentage can be> caused by prostatitis, which is a benign rather than a malignant> condition. If prostatitis symptoms are noted and/or if expressed> prostatic secretions are consistent with prostatitis, four to six weeks> of Cipro or similar antibiotic should be prescribed prior to> recommending a biopsy. At the end of the Cipro therapy, a repeat PSA> determination should be made. If there is significant lowering of the> PSA, an element of prostatitis is likely to be present. The PSA value> after antibiotic therapy will more aptly reflect the status of the> patient in the situation where a diagnosis of prostate cancer is> subsequently established.'> > See, "What Every Doctor Who Treats Male Patients Should Know" at> http://www.prostate-cancer.org/education/preclin/StrumPogliano_EveryDocShouldKnow.html> > Please note: A relatively low fPSA is NOT diagnostic of PCa, it only > alerts one to the probability. The only known test that is diagnostic is > the biopsy.> > I don't understand what "0.09" is supposed to represent. I suggest > asking the uro for answers.> > Regards,> > Steve J> Internal Virus Database is out of date.Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1664 - Release Date: 9/10/2008 6:00 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Sorry my last posting should have read 'NOT guess' Re: fPSA results? Ok i think this is how I calculate the %. Or at least this is how I was told. (.43 / 5.09)x 100= 8.45%..... or am I wrong?-Marla> > > The secretary gave me 's fPSA results over the phone but I have> > no clue what they mean. So I am posting them here in hopes someone can> > tell me what it means:> > > > fPSA: 5.09> > fPSA ratio: 0.43> > 0.09> > > > It is all numbers to me. He still has to have the biopsy says the> > urologist. But can someone please explain the numbers?> > Please see my 9/10 response on the thread "all new to me."> > I'll quote it here:> > "Here is what one of the best and brightest in the PCa field has written:> > 'A first step in investigation of a PSA elevated at 2.0 or above should> be a free-PSA percentage test.> > ï A free-PSA percentage of more than 25% is associated with a low> risk of prostate cancer.> > ï A free-PSA percentage of less than 15% is associated with a> higher risk of prostate cancer.> > An elevated PSA and a correspondingly low free PSA percentage can be> caused by prostatitis, which is a benign rather than a malignant> condition. If prostatitis symptoms are noted and/or if expressed> prostatic secretions are consistent with prostatitis, four to six weeks> of Cipro or similar antibiotic should be prescribed prior to> recommending a biopsy. At the end of the Cipro therapy, a repeat PSA> determination should be made. If there is significant lowering of the> PSA, an element of prostatitis is likely to be present. The PSA value> after antibiotic therapy will more aptly reflect the status of the> patient in the situation where a diagnosis of prostate cancer is> subsequently established.'> > See, "What Every Doctor Who Treats Male Patients Should Know" at> http://www.prostate-cancer.org/education/preclin/StrumPogliano_EveryDocShouldKnow.html> > Please note: A relatively low fPSA is NOT diagnostic of PCa, it only > alerts one to the probability. The only known test that is diagnostic is > the biopsy.> > I don't understand what "0.09" is supposed to represent. I suggest > asking the uro for answers.> > Regards,> > Steve J> Internal Virus Database is out of date.Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1664 - Release Date: 9/10/2008 6:00 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 results of the free PSA should be given to you as a % number and the PSA as a decimal number. As Steve recommends get a copy of the test from their office that way you are sure of the information. For now on get written copies of ALL tests and keep them in a file. Ok i think this is how I calculate the %. Or at least this is how I was told. (.43 / 5.09)x 100= 8.45%..... or am I wrong? -Marla > > > The secretary gave me 's fPSA results over the phone but I have > > no clue what they mean. So I am posting them here in hopes someone can > > tell me what it means: > > > > fPSA: 5.09 > > fPSA ratio: 0.43 > > 0.09 > > > > It is all numbers to me. He still has to have the biopsy says the > > urologist. But can someone please explain the numbers? > > Please see my 9/10 response on the thread " all new to me. " > > I'll quote it here: > > " Here is what one of the best and brightest in the PCa field has written: > > 'A first step in investigation of a PSA elevated at 2.0 or above should > be a free-PSA percentage test. > > ï A free-PSA percentage of more than 25% is associated with a low > risk of prostate cancer. > > ï A free-PSA percentage of less than 15% is associated with a > higher risk of prostate cancer. > > An elevated PSA and a correspondingly low free PSA percentage can be > caused by prostatitis, which is a benign rather than a malignant > condition. If prostatitis symptoms are noted and/or if expressed > prostatic secretions are consistent with prostatitis, four to six weeks > of Cipro or similar antibiotic should be prescribed prior to > recommending a biopsy. At the end of the Cipro therapy, a repeat PSA > determination should be made. If there is significant lowering of the > PSA, an element of prostatitis is likely to be present. The PSA value > after antibiotic therapy will more aptly reflect the status of the > patient in the situation where a diagnosis of prostate cancer is > subsequently established.' > > See, " What Every Doctor Who Treats Male Patients Should Know " at > http://www.prostate- cancer.org/education/preclin/StrumPogliano_EveryDocShouldKnow.html > > Please note: A relatively low fPSA is NOT diagnostic of PCa, it only > alerts one to the probability. The only known test that is diagnostic is > the biopsy. > > I don't understand what " 0.09 " is supposed to represent. I suggest > asking the uro for answers. > > Regards, > > Steve J > -- T NowakTo learn about the Petition to Make Prostate Cancer a National Priority go to http://www.prostatecancerpetition.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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