Re: Ageless, Suzanne Sommer's new book

[Guest guest]

I just bought this book, I am just at the beginning of it. It seems

like it will be pretty good. makes me want one of her doctors.

Has anyone gone to any of the doctors she recommends? If so, was it

super expensive?

Jackie

[Guest guest]

OOOps. sorry if this is not a topic for adrenal, SS talks mainly (so

far) about hormones.

Jackie

> I just bought this book, I am just at the beginning of it. It seems

> like it will be pretty good. makes me want one of her doctors.

>

> Has anyone gone to any of the doctors she recommends? If so, was it

> super expensive?

>

> Jackie

>

>

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[Guest guest]

OOOps. sorry if this is not a topic for adrenal, SS talks mainly (so

far) about hormones.

Jackie

> I just bought this book, I am just at the beginning of it. It seems

> like it will be pretty good. makes me want one of her doctors.

>

> Has anyone gone to any of the doctors she recommends? If so, was it

> super expensive?

>

> Jackie

>

>

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[Guest guest]

>>OOOps. sorry if this is not a topic for adrenal, SS talks mainly (so

far) about hormones.<<

Jackie, ALL hormones affect and work off each other so most hormone chatting is

welcome here.

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[Guest guest]

In my opinion, it is NOT good advice at all. Join up over at Hormones and

Health Naturally if you want good advice about estrogen, progesterone and

testosterone. Suzanne ought to stick to acting. She's better at it.

Sorry if I have offended anyone here. Dr. Lee's book, What Your Doctor May

Not Tell You About Menopause is a MUST read for every woman in my humble but

really blazingly loud opinion.

Ken & Jackie Reimer wrote: I just bought this book, I

am just at the beginning of it. It seems

like it will be pretty good. makes me want one of her doctors.

Has anyone gone to any of the doctors she recommends? If so, was it

super expensive?

Jackie

[Guest guest]

In my opinion, it is NOT good advice at all. Join up over at Hormones and

Health Naturally if you want good advice about estrogen, progesterone and

testosterone. Suzanne ought to stick to acting. She's better at it.

Sorry if I have offended anyone here. Dr. Lee's book, What Your Doctor May

Not Tell You About Menopause is a MUST read for every woman in my humble but

really blazingly loud opinion.

Ken & Jackie Reimer wrote: I just bought this book, I

am just at the beginning of it. It seems

like it will be pretty good. makes me want one of her doctors.

Has anyone gone to any of the doctors she recommends? If so, was it

super expensive?

Jackie

[Guest guest]

What is the link to the hormone site? I too am reading the book and it sounds

good thus far- better than a lot of docs out there!

Elle

Whitmore wrote:

In my opinion, it is NOT good advice at all. Join up over at Hormones

and Health Naturally if you want good advice about estrogen, progesterone and

testosterone. Suzanne ought to stick to acting. She's better at it.

Sorry if I have offended anyone here. Dr. Lee's book, What Your Doctor May

Not Tell You About Menopause is a MUST read for every woman in my humble but

really blazingly loud opinion.

Ken & Jackie Reimer wrote: I just bought this book, I

am just at the beginning of it. It seems

like it will be pretty good. makes me want one of her doctors.

Has anyone gone to any of the doctors she recommends? If so, was it

super expensive?

Jackie

[Guest guest]

What is the link to the hormone site? I too am reading the book and it sounds

good thus far- better than a lot of docs out there!

Elle

Whitmore wrote:

In my opinion, it is NOT good advice at all. Join up over at Hormones

and Health Naturally if you want good advice about estrogen, progesterone and

testosterone. Suzanne ought to stick to acting. She's better at it.

Sorry if I have offended anyone here. Dr. Lee's book, What Your Doctor May

Not Tell You About Menopause is a MUST read for every woman in my humble but

really blazingly loud opinion.

Ken & Jackie Reimer wrote: I just bought this book, I

am just at the beginning of it. It seems

like it will be pretty good. makes me want one of her doctors.

Has anyone gone to any of the doctors she recommends? If so, was it

super expensive?

Jackie

[Guest guest]

>

> >>OOOps. sorry if this is not a topic for adrenal, SS talks mainly (so

> far) about hormones.<<

>

> Jackie, ALL hormones affect and work off each other so most hormone

chatting is welcome here.

>

Thanks for that, Val. Also, I appreciate that we don't get our hands

slapped when we do get off topic a bit. It really enhances the

friendship/fellowship aspect of this group, which to me is SOOOOO

IMPORTANT, since you're really the only ones in my world who

UNDERSTAND! And understand all of it - like how all of this hormonal

stuff affects every fiber of our being, from thoughts to

fingernails...literally!

Warmly,

[Guest guest]

>

> >>OOOps. sorry if this is not a topic for adrenal, SS talks mainly (so

> far) about hormones.<<

>

> Jackie, ALL hormones affect and work off each other so most hormone

chatting is welcome here.

>

Thanks for that, Val. Also, I appreciate that we don't get our hands

slapped when we do get off topic a bit. It really enhances the

friendship/fellowship aspect of this group, which to me is SOOOOO

IMPORTANT, since you're really the only ones in my world who

UNDERSTAND! And understand all of it - like how all of this hormonal

stuff affects every fiber of our being, from thoughts to

fingernails...literally!

Warmly,

[Guest guest]

HormonesAndHealthNaturally

Elle Stohler wrote: What is the link to the hormone site?

I too am reading the book and it sounds good thus far- better than a lot of docs

out there!

Elle

Whitmore

wrote:

In my opinion, it is NOT good advice at all. Join up over at Hormones

and Health Naturally if you want good advice about estrogen, progesterone and

testosterone. Suzanne ought to stick to acting. She's better at it.

Sorry if I have offended anyone here. Dr. Lee's book, What Your Doctor May

Not Tell You About Menopause is a MUST read for every woman in my humble but

really blazingly loud opinion.

Ken & Jackie Reimer wrote: I just bought this book, I am just at the beginning

of it. It seems

like it will be pretty good. makes me want one of her doctors.

Has anyone gone to any of the doctors she recommends? If so, was it

super expensive?

Jackie

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I tried the link you gave but it didn't work.

Thanks & Love,

Pamela

Whitmore wrote:

HormonesAndHealthNaturally

Elle Stohler wrote: What is the link to the hormone

site? I too am reading the book and it sounds good thus far- better than a lot

of docs out there!

Elle

---------------------------------

Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.

[Guest guest]

Pamela,

I'm sorry. I just went there and copied the URL at the top of Yahoo's browser

page. It is:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/HormonesandHealth-Naturally/

If that doesn't work, go to Yahoo Groups and type in Hormones and Health

Natrually. It'll come up.

Pamela wrote: Hi ,

I tried the link you gave but it didn't work.

Thanks & Love,

Pamela

Whitmore

wrote:

HormonesAndHealthNaturally

Elle Stohler wrote: What is the link to the hormone site? I too am reading

the book and it sounds good thus far- better than a lot of docs out there!

Elle

---------------------------------

Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.

[Guest guest]

Pamela,

I'm sorry. I just went there and copied the URL at the top of Yahoo's browser

page. It is:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/HormonesandHealth-Naturally/

If that doesn't work, go to Yahoo Groups and type in Hormones and Health

Natrually. It'll come up.

Pamela wrote: Hi ,

I tried the link you gave but it didn't work.

Thanks & Love,

Pamela

Whitmore

wrote:

HormonesAndHealthNaturally

Elle Stohler wrote: What is the link to the hormone site? I too am reading

the book and it sounds good thus far- better than a lot of docs out there!

Elle

---------------------------------

Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.

[Guest guest]

UGH, now I'm bummed I wasted $15.00!

I did have Dr. Lee's book and even saw him speak in AZ in 2002. He

was very good, but since I didn't need any of the information then it

went in one ear and out the other, as well as giving the book away.

I think I remember him recommending yam cream? i could be wrong. But

Suzanne says that yam cream just won't cut it.

I' already in a fog and getting more confused daily.

Bought Hydrocortizone cream today, it says it is for itching, is this

the right one to use?

jackie

> Pamela,

>

> I'm sorry. I just went there and copied the URL at the top of

> Yahoo's browser page. It is:

>

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/HormonesandHealth-Naturally/

>

> If that doesn't work, go to Yahoo Groups and type in Hormones and

> Health Natrually. It'll come up.

>

>

>

> .

>

>

[Guest guest]

UGH, now I'm bummed I wasted $15.00!

I did have Dr. Lee's book and even saw him speak in AZ in 2002. He

was very good, but since I didn't need any of the information then it

went in one ear and out the other, as well as giving the book away.

I think I remember him recommending yam cream? i could be wrong. But

Suzanne says that yam cream just won't cut it.

I' already in a fog and getting more confused daily.

Bought Hydrocortizone cream today, it says it is for itching, is this

the right one to use?

jackie

> Pamela,

>

> I'm sorry. I just went there and copied the URL at the top of

> Yahoo's browser page. It is:

>

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/HormonesandHealth-Naturally/

>

> If that doesn't work, go to Yahoo Groups and type in Hormones and

> Health Natrually. It'll come up.

>

>

>

> .

>

>

[Guest guest]

UGH, now I'm bummed I wasted $15.00!

I did have Dr. Lee's book and even saw him speak in AZ in 2002. He

was very good, but since I didn't need any of the information then it

went in one ear and out the other, as well as giving the book away.

I think I remember him recommending yam cream? i could be wrong. But

Suzanne says that yam cream just won't cut it.

I' already in a fog and getting more confused daily.

Bought Hydrocortizone cream today, it says it is for itching, is this

the right one to use?

jackie

> Pamela,

>

> I'm sorry. I just went there and copied the URL at the top of

> Yahoo's browser page. It is:

>

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/HormonesandHealth-Naturally/

>

> If that doesn't work, go to Yahoo Groups and type in Hormones and

> Health Natrually. It'll come up.

>

>

>

> .

>

>

[Guest guest]

It depends on what you're looking for from the yam. If

you're wanting Progesterone, then our bodies don't

have the ability to extract the Progesterone from the

yam. So to speak. It's not exactly Progesterone in

there but a precursor form of the hormone that has to

be extracted and then just a bit altered in a lab by a

molecule or two (or something along those lines), but

then is bioidentical to what we make in our own

bodies.

That's why whenever you get any over the counter

Progesterone or buy it online make sure it always says

*USP* Progesterone and/or that it's extracted or

derived from yam. Not just " includes " yam or just

names yam as an ingredient, cause we can't do anything

with it that way.

If you're looking for something else besides

Progesterone from the yam, maybe someone else can

answer that because that's about the extent of my

knowledge about female hormones and yams.

--- Ken & Jackie Reimer

wrote:

> UGH, now I'm bummed I wasted $15.00!

>

> I did have Dr. Lee's book and even saw him speak in

> AZ in 2002. He

> was very good, but since I didn't need any of the

> information then it

> went in one ear and out the other, as well as giving

> the book away.

>

> I think I remember him recommending yam cream? i

> could be wrong. But

> Suzanne says that yam cream just won't cut it.

>

> I' already in a fog and getting more confused

> daily.

>

> Bought Hydrocortizone cream today, it says it is for

> itching, is this

> the right one to use?

>

> jackie

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[Guest guest]

It depends on what you're looking for from the yam. If

you're wanting Progesterone, then our bodies don't

have the ability to extract the Progesterone from the

yam. So to speak. It's not exactly Progesterone in

there but a precursor form of the hormone that has to

be extracted and then just a bit altered in a lab by a

molecule or two (or something along those lines), but

then is bioidentical to what we make in our own

bodies.

That's why whenever you get any over the counter

Progesterone or buy it online make sure it always says

*USP* Progesterone and/or that it's extracted or

derived from yam. Not just " includes " yam or just

names yam as an ingredient, cause we can't do anything

with it that way.

If you're looking for something else besides

Progesterone from the yam, maybe someone else can

answer that because that's about the extent of my

knowledge about female hormones and yams.

--- Ken & Jackie Reimer

wrote:

> UGH, now I'm bummed I wasted $15.00!

>

> I did have Dr. Lee's book and even saw him speak in

> AZ in 2002. He

> was very good, but since I didn't need any of the

> information then it

> went in one ear and out the other, as well as giving

> the book away.

>

> I think I remember him recommending yam cream? i

> could be wrong. But

> Suzanne says that yam cream just won't cut it.

>

> I' already in a fog and getting more confused

> daily.

>

> Bought Hydrocortizone cream today, it says it is for

> itching, is this

> the right one to use?

>

> jackie

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[Guest guest]

Jackie,

If you're wanting to buy progesterone cream OTC go to Dr. Lee's

website, they have listed out there several brands that are reputable:

johnleemd.com

Linn

> UGH, now I'm bummed I wasted $15.00!

>

> I did have Dr. Lee's book and even saw him speak in AZ in 2002. He

> was very good, but since I didn't need any of the information then it

> went in one ear and out the other, as well as giving the book away.

>

> I think I remember him recommending yam cream? i could be wrong. But

> Suzanne says that yam cream just won't cut it.

>

> I' already in a fog and getting more confused daily.

>

> Bought Hydrocortizone cream today, it says it is for itching, is this

> the right one to use?

>

> jackie

>

> .

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Jackie,

>

> If you're wanting to buy progesterone cream OTC go to Dr. Lee's

> website, they have listed out there several brands that are reputable:

>

> johnleemd.com

>

> Linn

>

For cream, I like Kokoro:

http://www.kokorohealth.com/

The have a jar with a pump that perfectly dispenses one " serving " .

[Guest guest]

>

> Jackie,

>

> If you're wanting to buy progesterone cream OTC go to Dr. Lee's

> website, they have listed out there several brands that are reputable:

>

> johnleemd.com

>

> Linn

>

For cream, I like Kokoro:

http://www.kokorohealth.com/

The have a jar with a pump that perfectly dispenses one " serving " .

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

What I need is a doctor who will do a full hormone panel on me to

find out what I do and don't need.

SS recommends a few doctor in her book, two of which are actually in

my area. My thoughts are, would it be worth

my own hard earned money to see one of them? My insurance is kaiser,

they will definitely NOT cover it.

Right now my doc Rx me for 1 grain and I haven't physically seen him

since July I don't think he really cares.

I would like to do an endo through my insurance, but from what I am

hearing on the groups I am on, I may not be any better off.

Jackie

> It depends on what you're looking for from the yam. If

> you're wanting Progesterone, then our bodies don't

> have the ability to extract the Progesterone from the

> yam. So to speak. It's not exactly Progesterone in

> there but a precursor form of the hormone that has to

> be extracted and then just a bit altered in a lab by a

> molecule or two (or something along those lines), but

> then is bioidentical to what we make in our own

> bodies.

>

> That's why whenever you get any over the counter

> Progesterone or buy it online make sure it always says

> *USP* Progesterone and/or that it's extracted or

> derived from yam. Not just " includes " yam or just

> names yam as an ingredient, cause we can't do anything

> with it that way.

>

> If you're looking for something else besides

> Progesterone from the yam, maybe someone else can

> answer that because that's about the extent of my

> knowledge about female hormones and yams.

>

>

>

> .

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jackie,

You can always get your own hormone panel done through

Canary Club which uses both Diagnos-Techs and ZRT

labs. It's fairly inexpensive at around $149.00 I

think. That would give you a starting baseline, and

then any doctor you go to should accept these labs

and/or redo them again at a lab of his choice for his

own verification.

I think Diagnos-Techs gives more information, from

what I've seen people posting with their results. I

used ZRT Labs before they joined with Canary Club and

they were much more expensive on their own. Not sure

what they are offering now through Canary Club,

whether it's the entire panel or not, but you can go

and look on the Canary Club website.

As for seeing a doctor that is mentioned in SS's book,

if you have the money sure why not? Probably a waiting

list to get in right now, which would be good thing

for saving up for it if you need to.

In the meantime you could do the Canary Club test so

you have a baseline to take in to the doctor, and you

could even start self treating with OTC USP

Bioidentical Progesterone if you need it, for

instance, or whatever else the tests show you need

that you can obtain on your own.

I'd do the whole panel which I think Diagnos-Techs

offers all of the following but ZRT I don't think

offers Ferratin. Could be wrong, so check it out to

make sure.

4x Cortisols, DHEAs, Testosterone (and later at doctor

get tested for FREE Testosterone if these tests only

offer regular Testosterone testing), Estradiol,

Estrone, Estriol, Progesterone, Thyroid Free T4, Free

T3, TSH, TPO antibodies, Ferritin, etc.

Also, not sure what 1 grain is doing, if anything,

and personally I would just drop it for two weeks or

so prior to testing so I could have a clean baseline

test. That's what *I* would do though, YMMV, and

others may disagree with that.

If you're going to look at going to an endo, I'd

definitely FIRST get that testing done so you yourself

know where you stand on thyroid, adrenals, and female

hormones and will know whether whatever he says will

address those results or not.

Also to even avoid THAT, it's a good idea to

pre-screen him/her before wasting your time and money

going in. Call and ask whether or not he/she

prescribes Armour for hypothyroid, whether he is

familiar with Adrenal Fatigue (aside from Cushings or

's) and how to treat it, and the interactions

between the female hormones, thyroid, and adrenals.

I'd ask whether he treats to both symptoms AND labs,

and doesn't just go by TSH for thyroid, too. If he

said yes to all of that, AND took my type of

insurance, I'd think I'd died and gone to heaven and

would make an appointment asap, lol. But, if he can't

answer yes with no reservations to all of these, then

I personally wouldn't even bother wasting my time or

money by going in.

If the nurse or receptionist or whoever has a problem

with you asking all these things, tell her that you

are looking for very specific things and it's better

to find out ahead of time what the doctor's views are

on them rather than waste HIS time on something he is

unwilling to use for diagnosis or treatment. That will

usually get her to at least ask him your questions, if

not get him on the phone himself.

This is where it comes in handy to have already test

results in hand and can SAY you do, briefly describe

your conditions if necessary, and say that so-and-so

is what you are looking for in the way of treatment.

--- Ken & Jackie Reimer

wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> What I need is a doctor who will do a full hormone

> panel on me to

> find out what I do and don't need.

>

> SS recommends a few doctor in her book, two of which

> are actually in

> my area. My thoughts are, would it be worth

> my own hard earned money to see one of them? My

> insurance is kaiser,

> they will definitely NOT cover it.

>

> Right now my doc Rx me for 1 grain and I haven't

> physically seen him

> since July I don't think he really cares.

>

> I would like to do an endo through my insurance, but

> from what I am

> hearing on the groups I am on, I may not be any

> better off.

>

> Jackie

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[Guest guest]

Hi Jackie,

You can always get your own hormone panel done through

Canary Club which uses both Diagnos-Techs and ZRT

labs. It's fairly inexpensive at around $149.00 I

think. That would give you a starting baseline, and

then any doctor you go to should accept these labs

and/or redo them again at a lab of his choice for his

own verification.

I think Diagnos-Techs gives more information, from

what I've seen people posting with their results. I

used ZRT Labs before they joined with Canary Club and

they were much more expensive on their own. Not sure

what they are offering now through Canary Club,

whether it's the entire panel or not, but you can go

and look on the Canary Club website.

As for seeing a doctor that is mentioned in SS's book,

if you have the money sure why not? Probably a waiting

list to get in right now, which would be good thing

for saving up for it if you need to.

In the meantime you could do the Canary Club test so

you have a baseline to take in to the doctor, and you

could even start self treating with OTC USP

Bioidentical Progesterone if you need it, for

instance, or whatever else the tests show you need

that you can obtain on your own.

I'd do the whole panel which I think Diagnos-Techs

offers all of the following but ZRT I don't think

offers Ferratin. Could be wrong, so check it out to

make sure.

4x Cortisols, DHEAs, Testosterone (and later at doctor

get tested for FREE Testosterone if these tests only

offer regular Testosterone testing), Estradiol,

Estrone, Estriol, Progesterone, Thyroid Free T4, Free

T3, TSH, TPO antibodies, Ferritin, etc.

Also, not sure what 1 grain is doing, if anything,

and personally I would just drop it for two weeks or

so prior to testing so I could have a clean baseline

test. That's what *I* would do though, YMMV, and

others may disagree with that.

If you're going to look at going to an endo, I'd

definitely FIRST get that testing done so you yourself

know where you stand on thyroid, adrenals, and female

hormones and will know whether whatever he says will

address those results or not.

Also to even avoid THAT, it's a good idea to

pre-screen him/her before wasting your time and money

going in. Call and ask whether or not he/she

prescribes Armour for hypothyroid, whether he is

familiar with Adrenal Fatigue (aside from Cushings or

's) and how to treat it, and the interactions

between the female hormones, thyroid, and adrenals.

I'd ask whether he treats to both symptoms AND labs,

and doesn't just go by TSH for thyroid, too. If he

said yes to all of that, AND took my type of

insurance, I'd think I'd died and gone to heaven and

would make an appointment asap, lol. But, if he can't

answer yes with no reservations to all of these, then

I personally wouldn't even bother wasting my time or

money by going in.

If the nurse or receptionist or whoever has a problem

with you asking all these things, tell her that you

are looking for very specific things and it's better

to find out ahead of time what the doctor's views are

on them rather than waste HIS time on something he is

unwilling to use for diagnosis or treatment. That will

usually get her to at least ask him your questions, if

not get him on the phone himself.

This is where it comes in handy to have already test

results in hand and can SAY you do, briefly describe

your conditions if necessary, and say that so-and-so

is what you are looking for in the way of treatment.

--- Ken & Jackie Reimer

wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> What I need is a doctor who will do a full hormone

> panel on me to

> find out what I do and don't need.

>

> SS recommends a few doctor in her book, two of which

> are actually in

> my area. My thoughts are, would it be worth

> my own hard earned money to see one of them? My

> insurance is kaiser,

> they will definitely NOT cover it.

>

> Right now my doc Rx me for 1 grain and I haven't

> physically seen him

> since July I don't think he really cares.

>

> I would like to do an endo through my insurance, but

> from what I am

> hearing on the groups I am on, I may not be any

> better off.

>

> Jackie

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