Guest guest Posted August 21, 2002 Report Share Posted August 21, 2002 Hello Mike, Starting this week I am to begin giving my 16 yr old b-12 shots. This is a high functioning spectrum child who just had her navel pierced. Ears already done in multiples (some herself). Her DAN dr. is hoping this will help with her terrible fatigue so that she can go back to school this year. For various reasons she was homebound from January and still finishing up last year's work. She is complaining already about the prospect of having Mom inject her even though not at all afraid of the piercings!!!! I can't really give much advise on this one yet, but just had to chime in. Will your child put up with the shots? I have read several places that b12 sublinguals are just as effective. My daughter will swallow the sublinguals, can't be bothered with waiting for them to disolve. I don't know if they are as effective that way. Always something. Michele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2002 Report Share Posted August 21, 2002 > Hello Mike, > Starting this week I am to begin giving my 16 yr old b-12 shots. This is a > high functioning spectrum child who just had her navel pierced. Ears already > done in multiples (some herself). Her DAN dr. is hoping this will help with > her terrible fatigue so that she can go back to school this year. Is your daughter drinking milk with enzymes? Milk causes chronic fatigue for me, even with enzymes. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 In a message dated 5/4/2004 10:11:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, ftrevino@... writes: Any suggestions? I have read so many success stories about B12 shots and vitamin A therapy We did the same thing with our son. After hearing so many amazing stories, it was really discouraging when it did nothing for him! We also tried them two separate times and had negative reactions and regression. You are not alone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Try giving lots of anti-oxidants (Vit c, Vit E, Grape Seed Extract) for a couple of weeks before starting the B12 shots. And be sure to use TMG and Folinic Acid as well. [ ] B12 Shots My DAN nutritionist suggested B12 shots for our son as part of his protocol. We tried them about six months ago and he didn't improve at all, in fact, he got really hyper. It took about two weeks to completely get it out of his system. A month ago our nutritionist suggested it again so we tried it and again he had a negative reaction to them. My son was extremely hyper and started to regress slightly. His stimming has increased both visually and physically. Any suggestions? I have read so many success stories about B12 shots and vitamin A therapy. He didn't improve with either. I am really discouraged. One thing that did help him was Nystatin, which got his yeast problems under control. Please help! Mother to 5 year old PDD-NOS. ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 I did not try shots, but I tried giving medadoses of B12 orally, and in the beginning I saw nothing, but with time my son quite regressed on them. He got too quiet and did not try to say any sounds, while before he was trying to say words and vocalized a lot. I stopped B12 completely, and he is saying sounds again, but not yet at the level he was before. His tests showed B12 deficiency, that's why I tried to increase B12. It's just complex, and does not work for everybody. Margaret > My DAN nutritionist suggested B12 shots for our son as part of his > protocol. We tried them about six months ago and he didn't improve > at all, in fact, he got really hyper. It took about two weeks to > completely get it out of his system. A month ago our nutritionist > suggested it again so we tried it and again he had a negative > reaction to them. My son was extremely hyper and started to regress > slightly. His stimming has increased both visually and physically. > > Any suggestions? I have read so many success stories about B12 shots > and vitamin A therapy. He didn't improve with either. I am really > discouraged. > > One thing that did help him was Nystatin, which got his yeast > problems under control. > > Please help! > > Mother to 5 year old PDD-NOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 > My DAN nutritionist suggested B12 shots for our son as part of his > protocol. We tried them about six months ago and he didn't improve > at all, in fact, he got really hyper. If you noticed any improvements with language, try reducing the dose and giving it with folic or folinic acid. > Any suggestions? I have read so many success stories about B12 shots > and vitamin A therapy. He didn't improve with either. I am really > discouraged. Depends on the vitamin A " therapy " . How much did you use? My son needed more than the recommended amount for the two days [if you mean the high dose protocol], and then he needed LESS [meaning zero] as maintenance. > One thing that did help him was Nystatin, which got his yeast > problems under control. Well congrats for that! Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 , we have seen great results with B12 shots. Within three days of starting, my son uttered his first three-word sentence -- " Daddy get down. " His teachers were reporting in days (they didn't and don't know about the B12) that he was performing the gestures to circle songs for the first time. We found it so effective that we now have doubled his dose. He's doing great. If you decide to try it, e-mail me privately and I'll send you my parent tips for starting (if you've never given a shot before and you're a bit edgey like I was). > > Hi Everyone, > > Has anyone out there tried B12 shots with their little one, and if > so - what types of results/changes did you see? > > ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > Has anyone out there tried B12 shots with their little one, and if > > so - what types of results/changes did you see? > > > > ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 > My son Najib (almost 4 and mostly nonverbal) just had his 4th B12 > injection today. We just started this treatment less than two weeks > ago. Like 's son, literally on the third day he came running > through the kitchen to me and said " Wha'cha doin? " I dropped my > spoon. , What an amazing story! Thank you so much for sharing it with me... it really gives us hope. I pray that we see similar results with our son! ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 >>A side effect for Najib is that he is very hyperactive, non- > verbal, and almost regressed in behavior for about 6 hours after the > shot. Try giving folic acid with the shot, see if that helps. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 Folinic Acid is supposed to be better. Re: B12 Shots >>A side effect for Najib is that he is very hyperactive, non- > verbal, and almost regressed in behavior for about 6 hours after the > shot. Try giving folic acid with the shot, see if that helps. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 , I am just starting tomorrow. The pre-loaded syringes are $5.00 each plus a $20 overnight shipping charge. We received 14 syringes. They have a two month shelf life in the refrigerator but since you give one every three days this is a six week supply. robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 In a message dated 1/15/2005 10:14:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, make_life_happen@... writes: what about the sublingual B12 tabs? Could you use them? Do you have a source of methylcobalamin in sublingual form? The other forms of B12 are not getting the same results. I don't know if it would work even if you have the sublingual methylcobalamin but it couldn't hurt to try it. robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 You need a prescription, get your own and do it yourself We started just before Christmas. The upper outer quadrant of the buttock is where you want to put it and it has to be SQ rather than IM. There is inof and some great video here _www.drneubrander.com_ (http://www.drneubrander.com) Good luck, that is very high price to pay, much chepaer on your own. Coastal and Hopewell will supply in pre filled syringes. HTH Mandi in UK Does anyone administer B12 shots to their child themselves? If so, is there a specific place that you order them from, or do you get them from your doctor? At $20 per shot (given by our Dr.), we just cannot afford to keep doing it. TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 what about the sublingual B12 tabs? Could you use them? > > Does anyone administer B12 shots to their child themselves? If so, > is there a specific place that you order them from, or do you get > them from your doctor? At $20 per shot (given by our Dr.), we just > cannot afford to keep doing it. TIA > ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 Check out the Chelatingkids 2 files for methyl-B12, MB12, or Dr. Neubrander. There is good info there. mom2liamh <mom2liamh@...> wrote: Does anyone administer B12 shots to their child themselves? If so, is there a specific place that you order them from, or do you get them from your doctor? At $20 per shot (given by our Dr.), we just cannot afford to keep doing it. TIA ~ --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 there are forms of methylcobalamin online....but I was reading something about reducing the natural release of melatonin in the day... How do you find a happy median? If you want your child to sleep at a decent hour? I applaud everyone here, for doing all that you are doing, this is far from stress free:-) (mother of Jeneah) > > In a message dated 1/15/2005 10:14:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > make_life_happen@y... writes: > > what about the sublingual B12 tabs? Could you use them? > > > Do you have a source of methylcobalamin in sublingual form? The other forms > of B12 are not getting the same results. > > I don't know if it would work even if you have the sublingual > methylcobalamin but it couldn't hurt to try it. > > robin > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 or what about the sublingual B12/Folic drops? Could you use those? -- Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 Where do you buy them? MISSY SAHM to some special kids!!! I am who I am because that's who I am --, 5, Aspergers All kids are gifted; some just open their packages earlier than others. -- Carr Re: B12 Shots , I am just starting tomorrow. The pre-loaded syringes are $5.00 each plus a $20 overnight shipping charge. We received 14 syringes. They have a two month shelf life in the refrigerator but since you give one every three days this is a six week supply. robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2005 Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 In a message dated 1/15/2005 7:28:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, itchy10@... writes: Where do you buy them? MISSY Missy, I have recently started working with Dr. Martha Grout via phone. She is based in Phoenix. She has a Florida license as well (I live in FL). She called into the pharmacy and they shipped the preloaded syringes here. Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2005 Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 In a message dated 1/15/2005 7:53:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, helenmse@... writes: or what about the sublingual B12/Folic drops? Could you use those? -- Helen I don't know but I think the starting point would be checking if the form of the B12 is methylcobalamin. Perhaps you could find information on Dr. Neubrander's site _www.drneubrander.com_ (http://www.drneubrander.com) Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2005 Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 If you have a spare $60 I recommned registering for the ARI confernec on line. I recommned Dr Neubrander who makes it easy to understand the whys and whats of MB12. There are many other sessions on there too inlcuding the recovered kids. Here is the link _http://www.avnoy.com/~ariduweb/_ (http://www.avnoy.com/~ariduweb/) HTH Mandi in Uk - who is now finding the fog clearing on the Methylation cycle LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2005 Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 > > or what about the sublingual B12/Folic drops? Could you use those? -- Helen > I have tried the sublingual tabs, but honestly, I didn't see quite the same effect I did with the shots... not right away any way. I'm wondering if I'm really seeing results, or if I'm just seeing what I want to see, you know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 Mandi, How long have you been giving your child the B12 injections and what changes have you seen? TIA, Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 Only 3 weeks, much more 'on', focusing better at school, very cheeky, flirting to try and get what he wants (which is hard to resist LOL), more vocal with a good range of sounds, he usually sticks to one sound for a few weeks. Suits me, we will continue Mandi in UK How long have you been giving your child the B12 injections and what changes have you seen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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