Handicapped parking

September 21, 2004

When Lowes lumber/hardware built a new store in town, they put all the

handicap parking at the far end of the parking lot. 'Normal' people could

park at the front door, but those of us that really needed parking couldn't

get close. I happened to be there the first day they were open, and had the

opportunity to explain to the district manager how stupid this layout was. A

week later, I passed by the store and all the handicap parking was moved to

the area between the entrance and exit doors, just as it should have been in

the beginning. Sometimes you can't see the problems until you've been there.

Dennis

September 21, 2004

So you are on Remicade? Are you on MTX too? Would you mind telling me your

experience with Remicade, how long it too for you to see results etc..? I will

call the doc on Thurs to discuss it..

Semalee

[ ] Re: Handicapped parking

>

> > You know, what's really sad about all this is the amount of

> > importance that so many people put on getting that " good, " close

> > parking space. Because that's really what's driving all

> > this....they're upset because you, who look young and healthy, get to

> > park up front, while they, who are healthy, have to walk (God help

> > them) an extra 30, 40 feet to the door. My husband has a habit of

> > parking far away from everything, because he feels like he doesn't

> > get enough exercise and every little bit of extra walking helps. I

> > used to find this very annoying, and my kids still do, but I think

> > it's a great attitude for anyone who's able to do the walking to

> > have. It's not only good exercise but it's a good lesson in

> > patience, too. (And, yes, he does let me out at the door if my

> > knees/feet are bothering me.) Plus I know so many people now,

> > including many of you on this site, who would gladly give up a

> > disabled sticker for the ability to walk from the " north 40 " parking

> > lot without pain.

> >

> > It just seems so strange to me. I guess it's the same phenomenom

> > that makes people drive around for 20 minutes looking for a good spot

> > to park because they don't have time to walk from further out! :-)

> >

>

September 22, 2004

I have been on a combination of Remicade and Mtx for about 2 years. It took me

from about end of September until early December to see major results. It has

worked wonders for my hands and fingers in particular. My feet and ankles

.....are better - not a miracle. Many rheumatoid nodules are gone and many

smaller and the blood work is generally better. My biggest problem has been the

IV pokes - I have small veins- not made easier to iinfuse by years of

prednisone. I have had pneumonia twice that they were able to get under control

quickly - because I went into a doctor quickly. None directly related to a

particular infection. If I have a flu or infection - we err on the side of

caution and don't infuse - for my sake and the others in the infusion center. I

take my Remicade at a Hospital infusion center - where there are a variety of

illnesses treated including some cancers.They do a benadryl and tylenol half

hour prep - to avoid reactions - allergic and headaches- and it generally makes

you relaxed and sleepy. Staff are nice - once infusion is started the staff and

I can generally relax LOL. Hope that has helped.

> So you are on Remicade? Are you on MTX too? Would you mind telling me your

> experience with Remicade, how long it too for you to see results etc..? I

will

> call the doc on Thurs to discuss it..

> Semalee

> [ ] Re: Handicapped parking

> >

> > > You know, what's really sad about all this is the amount of

> > > importance that so many people put on getting that " good, " close

> > > parking space. Because that's really what's driving all

> > > this....they're upset because you, who look young and healthy, get to

> > > park up front, while they, who are healthy, have to walk (God help

> > > them) an extra 30, 40 feet to the door. My husband has a habit of

> > > parking far away from everything, because he feels like he doesn't

> > > get enough exercise and every little bit of extra walking helps. I

> > > used to find this very annoying, and my kids still do, but I think

> > > it's a great attitude for anyone who's able to do the walking to

> > > have. It's not only good exercise but it's a good lesson in

> > > patience, too. (And, yes, he does let me out at the door if my

> > > knees/feet are bothering me.) Plus I know so many people now,

> > > including many of you on this site, who would gladly give up a

> > > disabled sticker for the ability to walk from the " north 40 " parking

> > > lot without pain.

> > >

> > > It just seems so strange to me. I guess it's the same phenomenom

> > > that makes people drive around for 20 minutes looking for a good spot

> > > to park because they don't have time to walk from further out! :-)

> > >

> >

August 24, 2006

I went to the site noted & the file was not

found - so then I dun went & found it. Here 'tis...

-Thanks for the article site-good news-Mitch

Taunton triples fines for illegal handicap parkers

By Terence J. Downing, Enterprise staff writer

TAUNTON — Illegal use of a handicapped parking space

is going to cost drivers triple.

The City Council voted Tuesday to raise the fine from

$100 to $300 for motorists who violate the handicap

parking spot law.

The hike came on the recommendation of Police Chief

L. O'Berg and members of the Committee on

Disabilities.

“I like the idea. It will hit them a little harder,”

said committee Chairman Souza, who is in a

wheelchair due to paralysis from spinal muscular

atrophy.

O'Berg said state law allows cities and towns to

determine their own fines for illegal use of handicap

parking spaces.

Taunton has an ordinance establishing the $100 fine,

so the ordinance will have to be changed before the

$300 fine can become effective.

The fine applies to violators in public and private

parking lots and streets, as long as the signage and

markings meet state handicap criteria.

Police issued 280 citations for handicap parking

violations over the past year. As of June 30, more

than $2,570 had been collected in fines and another

$300 in July.

O'Berg said his officers are enforcing the law, but

the shortage of police officers means handicap

enforcement becomes a low priority.

“There are times when we only have five police

officers patrolling the city,” said O'Berg. “We're

doing the best we can.”

O'Berg said he carries a ticket book with him and

writes citations.

“I see it at Shaw's all the time,” said O'Berg.

“Nothing bothers me more than to see an 18-year-old

who is the picture of health parking in a handicap

spot,” said O'Berg.

--- <way2square@...> wrote:

> At least once in a while, some small progress is

> made...

>

http://enterprise.southofboston.com/articles/2006/08/23/news/news/news1

> 0.txt

>

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August 24, 2006

Thanks, Mitch. Sorry for the confusing link.

I have heard that some states allow private citizens to be " deputized "

to give out handicapped parking violation tickets so that the police

don't have to be bothered as much with this. Of course, my state (PA)

doesn't do that. Has anyone heard of such a thing in their state?

>

> I went to the site noted & the file was not

> found - so then I dun went & found it. Here 'tis...

>

> -Thanks for the article site-good news-Mitch

>

December 17, 2006

I agree Lori.....and ...do some community service....

Only twice ( out Christmas shopping) did we actually find a handicapped

parking spot.....thing is when you go into the store.....it's me scooting around

in my scooter...I see all their scooters parked in the front and I see NO 1 in

wheelchairs, powerchairs, or scooters...we do have a conversion van with a

handicapped license plate....and it's not fair...where are the security people

that should be checking on these lazy people who park in the spots...... " just

because they want to be closer to the door " If I could walk that far I would...I

can't... I can walk...it's limited.....time to slap some nice tickets on these

cars....and pehaps those who are not challenged would think twice the next time

before parking there.....

BTW the cars etc...I have seen in these spots have no placard or handicapped

plate/plates....which really makes me mad....

Lori <those2@...> wrote:

See article below. If I were the judge, I'd have him pay the fine (in

payments if necessary) and hold the sign in front of the store too.

I'm sick of non-disabled peopleparking in handicapped spots. Half the

time we can't get a handicapped spot because of them.

Lori

Man Learns Not To Park In Handicapped

UNION, S.C. -- Ragheem has to tell the world he's not disabled.

He has to apologize, too.

was ticketed for parking illegally in a handicapped space in front

of a grocery store in Union, S.C.

He told a magistrate he couldn't afford the $325 fine, and couldn't miss

work to spend 30 days in jail.

So, Magistrate Jeff imposed an alternative sentence.

Thursday, had to stand outside the Bi-Lo grocery with a sign that

read: " I am not handicapped. I just parked there, sorry. "

said he's learned his lesson and won't be parking in anymore

handicapped spots.

( http://www.click2houston.com/news/10545312/detail.html )

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December 18, 2006

Alot of fault lies on doctors who pass out permits like candy too. My problem is

there's just no spaces available, EVERYONE has a permit. I have had several

family members refuse permits for the silliest of medical problems. My brother

in law lost a middle toe to a lawn mower, he's 40 yrs old and it didn't effect

his walking. The doctor asked him if he wanted a permit, he just laughed and

said no. There have been other similar instances as well. Then there's the

people who park in handicapped spaces who walk the mall all day, but can't walk

to the door. Those people who do their walking exercises in the mall included,

hello its a mall not a gym. There's the fat lady who can't haul her big ass out

of the car, sorry obesity is not a disability. If you want to eat yourself into

a early grave thats fine, but don't expect me to give up a parking space on a

bitterly cold day, cause you can't put your fork down. Mind you I'm really not

that radical about parking spaces, if its warm I don't mind walking. (We even

have pregnant spaces here in MI I've seen) Doug

December 18, 2006

For me, I only like the HP spot on rainy or snowy days. My van has both side

and rear door access, so general parking spaces are " do-able " .

The silly thing is I got " chewed " out by another guy when we parked in a

regular parking spot at a mall. He screamed at me to park where I am supposed

to and not take up space for someone who needs it. I went towards him and

told him there wasn't any HP spaces open, besides I don't need it, my wheels

are better than your legs.

I buzzed by at highspeed with a smile on my face .....

Angie

On Sunday 17 December 2006 19:46, Lori wrote:

> See article below. If I were the judge, I'd have him pay the fine (in

> payments if necessary) and hold the sign in front of the store too.

>

> I'm sick of non-disabled peopleparking in handicapped spots. Half the

> time we can't get a handicapped spot because of them.

>

> Lori

>

> Man Learns Not To Park In Handicapped

>

> UNION, S.C. -- Ragheem has to tell the world he's not disabled.

>

> He has to apologize, too.

>

> was ticketed for parking illegally in a handicapped space in front

> of a grocery store in Union, S.C.

>

> He told a magistrate he couldn't afford the $325 fine, and couldn't miss

> work to spend 30 days in jail.

>

> So, Magistrate Jeff imposed an alternative sentence.

>

> Thursday, had to stand outside the Bi-Lo grocery with a sign that

> read: " I am not handicapped. I just parked there, sorry. "

>

> said he's learned his lesson and won't be parking in anymore

> handicapped spots.

>

> ( http://www.click2houston.com/news/10545312/detail.html )

--

Angie

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an electric wheelchair hockey league

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December 18, 2006

Agreed!

L

Doug wrote:

>

> Alot of fault lies on doctors who pass out permits like candy too. My

> problem is there's just no spaces available, EVERYONE has a permit. I

> have had several family members refuse permits for the silliest of

> medical problems. My brother in law lost a middle toe to a lawn mower,

> he's 40 yrs old and it didn't effect his walking. The doctor asked him

> if he wanted a permit, he just laughed and said no. There have been

> other similar instances as well. Then there's the people who park in

> handicapped spaces who walk the mall all day, but can't walk to the

> door. Those people who do their walking exercises in the mall

> included, hello its a mall not a gym. There's the fat lady who can't

> haul her big ass out of the car, sorry obesity is not a disability. If

> you want to eat yourself into a early grave thats fine, but don't

> expect me to give up a parking space on a bitterly cold day, cause you

> can't put your fork down. Mind you I'm really not that radical about

> parking spaces, if i

>

December 19, 2006

Since I'm not " mobility impaired " and can drive my power chair quite well, I

let the yo-yos who believe that their high blood pressure, hang nails, and

impotence makes them entitled to park in disabled parking do so. Meanwhile, I

park in the back 40 and zip past them in my chair as I cruise up to the door.

Why should I park in handicapped parking? I'm not handicapped! ;-)

Vicki

December 19, 2006

Feel Bad I have one in the summer I dont need it but with the Winter

I need one

> >

> > Alot of fault lies on doctors who pass out permits like candy

too. My

> > problem is there's just no spaces available, EVERYONE has a

permit. I

> > have had several family members refuse permits for the silliest

of

> > medical problems. My brother in law lost a middle toe to a lawn

mower,

> > he's 40 yrs old and it didn't effect his walking. The doctor

asked him

> > if he wanted a permit, he just laughed and said no. There have

been

> > other similar instances as well. Then there's the people who

park in

> > handicapped spaces who walk the mall all day, but can't walk to

the

> > door. Those people who do their walking exercises in the mall

> > included, hello its a mall not a gym. There's the fat lady who

can't

> > haul her big ass out of the car, sorry obesity is not a

disability. If

> > you want to eat yourself into a early grave thats fine, but

don't

> > expect me to give up a parking space on a bitterly cold day,

cause you

> > can't put your fork down. Mind you I'm really not that radical

about

> > parking spaces, if i

> >

January 2, 2007

I think this is great! This is one of my biggest pet peeves.

Milinovich

Handicapped Parking

See article below. If I were the judge, I'd have him pay the fine (in

payments if necessary) and hold the sign in front of the store too.

I'm sick of non-disabled peopleparking in handicapped spots. Half the

time we can't get a handicapped spot because of them.

Lori

Man Learns Not To Park In Handicapped

UNION, S.C. -- Ragheem has to tell the world he's not disabled.

He has to apologize, too.

was ticketed for parking illegally in a handicapped space in front

of a grocery store in Union, S.C.

He told a magistrate he couldn't afford the $325 fine, and couldn't miss

work to spend 30 days in jail.

So, Magistrate Jeff imposed an alternative sentence.

Thursday, had to stand outside the Bi-Lo grocery with a sign that

read: " I am not handicapped. I just parked there, sorry. "

said he's learned his lesson and won't be parking in anymore

handicapped spots.

( http://www.click2ho uston.com/ news/10545312/ detail.html )

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May 3, 2007

Unfortunately, I live in Indiana, and they don't give us the wallet

ID, so people just have to go off of what we say. I hope someday

they will add the ID when you get a placard here, but we'll see. My

grandmother (who is 80) got griped at one day by another old lady,

and my grandma shuffles when she walks and is just the sweetest lady

out there, and has been through so much. I think that people are

just getting more mean as time goes on unfortunately. I have a

friend who is stationed in Hawaii, and he had a similar experience

there, and he was even still in a walking cast (he was in an

explosion in Iraq, he's a green beret and just got home from his

third tour) and someone yelled at him and he obviously is messed up

from being over there protecting our rights to park where we want

(not trying to start a political debate, but I do support our

soldiers whether or not I agree with the mission they are asked to

accomplish). He explained that he just got back from the war, and

had just had another major surgery on his ankle, and the person

seriously spit on him. I think it's just horrible, but I guess

there's nothing we can do. For all of you who have major troubles

walking, I'd ask your rheumy for a handicapped placard. My Dr. gave

me mine when I was 18 when she thought I was bad enough to have one,

so now I have a permanent one, but dont like using it, because I know

what it looks like to have a 22 year old get out of a little red

sports car in a handicapped spot, haha, so I only use it if I need

it. But it's definitely something to check into because all that

extra walking could be wreaking havoc on your joints if you are

flaring, which everyone here knows this, LOL. I'm used to explaining

things to people. Sorry about the long post again, procrastinating

on studying for my last final...

~Autumn

May 3, 2007

I have a handicap placard I received from my Dr due to RA, Fibro, broken

ankles etc...Yeah, I think there are alot of mean spirited people out there

that should have one but are too proud to ask.

I truly believe there are 100s of people that go undiagnosed for years and

are bitter about it.

I didn't know what I was going on with me till 2003.

Even though I wouldn't want such a severe flair up ever again, I am greatful

that I finally know what is wrong, and my DRs. thus far have been treating

me with compassion. It wasn't always so, I had to switch DRs a few times

" before " I was ever this sick as I could tell they just weren't listening to

me. I wasn't a person to them.

I live in Iowa and we have plenty of handicap parking and I see quite a few

people with new and/or fancy cars with either the placard or the plates. I

just assumed they could also be a spouse or friend taking them around as I

had to take Dave (my late husband places). I don't think I ever judged

anyone the way I think people have looked at me from time to time. I feel

sorry they have no compassion for others and wonder how it will be with them

when they are sick. EVeryone on the planet gets sick with something at one

time or another. It is just the way it is. No amount of vitamins,

exercise, plastic surgery does not stop aging. Like Forrest Gump says " Life

is a box of chocolates and you never know which one you'll get " (or how it

will taste to you)

oops, sorry for going on.

Talk to ya all later.

Laurie

On 5/3/07, a_mccombs2003 <amccombs@...> wrote:

>

> Unfortunately, I live in Indiana, and they don't give us the wallet

> ID, so people just have to go off of what we say. I hope someday

> they will add the ID when you get a placard here, but we'll see. My

> grandmother (who is 80) got griped at one day by another old lady,

> and my grandma shuffles when she walks and is just the sweetest lady

> out there, and has been through so much. I think that people are

> just getting more mean as time goes on unfortunately. I have a

> friend who is stationed in Hawaii, and he had a similar experience

> there, and he was even still in a walking cast (he was in an

> explosion in Iraq, he's a green beret and just got home from his

> third tour) and someone yelled at him and he obviously is messed up

> from being over there protecting our rights to park where we want

> (not trying to start a political debate, but I do support our

> soldiers whether or not I agree with the mission they are asked to

> accomplish). He explained that he just got back from the war, and

> had just had another major surgery on his ankle, and the person

> seriously spit on him. I think it's just horrible, but I guess

> there's nothing we can do. For all of you who have major troubles

> walking, I'd ask your rheumy for a handicapped placard. My Dr. gave

> me mine when I was 18 when she thought I was bad enough to have one,

> so now I have a permanent one, but dont like using it, because I know

> what it looks like to have a 22 year old get out of a little red

> sports car in a handicapped spot, haha, so I only use it if I need

> it. But it's definitely something to check into because all that

> extra walking could be wreaking havoc on your joints if you are

> flaring, which everyone here knows this, LOL. I'm used to explaining

> things to people. Sorry about the long post again, procrastinating

> on studying for my last final...

> ~Autumn

>

May 3, 2007

I have a placard for each of our cars. I have gotten dirty looks...but no

one has dared say anything yet. Though plenty have given me dirty looks.

I just do what I have to do and don't allow others to put me on the

spot....when they do I let them know that not all disabilities can be seen with

the

untrained eye and if they are so in doubt please call the police and give me

their name and number so they can get the ticket for filing a false police

report and I also know who to sic my lawyer on for deframation and slander. I

say that quickly and with a smile and keep going.

Usually that leaves them standing there looking stupid. Cause most I run

into are not the intelligent kind of person that can handle that type of

conversation.

If there is a regular space right next to handicap. I will park in

it...walmart is the biggest challange. Here is Texas everyone it seems uses

walmart

and its very difficult to park.

Toni

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May 3, 2007

I seperately need to apply for one. I just feel like someone worse than me might

need the space, but then I kill myself trying to walk from the back 40 of a

store to get to the door just in time to say " screw this, I am too tired now "

and just go home. *sigh* I think I am going to go to the DMV and get the

form... when I feel well I wont have to use it so I think it would be helpful.

RIght?

Kerry

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