Guest guest Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Makes sense. I don't keep the pen refrigerated (though I do keep the extra cartridges refrigerated) but keep the pen in a packback as I noticed it gets a bit warm in my pocket -- after all, homo sapiens sapiens does run around 98.6 F! (grin) Mike > I don't know if this may be a problem or not for you, but recently I noticed > that my bs levels kept rising every day and even dosing extra Humalog did > not seem to work like it use to do. I had been carrying around my Humalog > in my shirt pocket, and when it finally ran out of insulin, I got a new one. > When I started using the new refrigerated Humalog pen, my bs levels and > insulin dose started working correctly again or nearly so. I figure my > Humalog got hot and lost its potency, which is a common thing to happen if > the Humalog gets over 86 degrees F. > Dawn phenomenon > > >> I am wondering if the dawn phenomenon can be stronger or weaker on >> different >> days. Usually if I am high in the morning I can get it down by lunch, but >> there are some days, like today, when I eat the same things and there are >> no >> other factors that are different that I can see, when I don't come down. >> This morning I was 10.6 at breakfast and just now, at lunch, I was 10.8 >> even >> though I gave extra insulin to correct it at breakfast in addition to >> covering the carbs as I usually do. I have actually been getting more >> morning highs in the past few weeks so maybe something has changed during >> the night. In fact yesterday I was 10.8 in the morning and I did exactly >> what I did today and at lunch I was 3.8. >> >> It is just strange that most mornings I'm high I am normal by lunch but >> there's the odd day like today when it doesn't work and I can't find a >> reason why. Very mysterious! I use a higher insulin-to-carb ratio at >> breakfast as well than I do for the rest of the day, and this usually >> works >> whether I'm high or not. >> >> Jen >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Makes sense. I don't keep the pen refrigerated (though I do keep the extra cartridges refrigerated) but keep the pen in a packback as I noticed it gets a bit warm in my pocket -- after all, homo sapiens sapiens does run around 98.6 F! (grin) Mike > I don't know if this may be a problem or not for you, but recently I noticed > that my bs levels kept rising every day and even dosing extra Humalog did > not seem to work like it use to do. I had been carrying around my Humalog > in my shirt pocket, and when it finally ran out of insulin, I got a new one. > When I started using the new refrigerated Humalog pen, my bs levels and > insulin dose started working correctly again or nearly so. I figure my > Humalog got hot and lost its potency, which is a common thing to happen if > the Humalog gets over 86 degrees F. > Dawn phenomenon > > >> I am wondering if the dawn phenomenon can be stronger or weaker on >> different >> days. Usually if I am high in the morning I can get it down by lunch, but >> there are some days, like today, when I eat the same things and there are >> no >> other factors that are different that I can see, when I don't come down. >> This morning I was 10.6 at breakfast and just now, at lunch, I was 10.8 >> even >> though I gave extra insulin to correct it at breakfast in addition to >> covering the carbs as I usually do. I have actually been getting more >> morning highs in the past few weeks so maybe something has changed during >> the night. In fact yesterday I was 10.8 in the morning and I did exactly >> what I did today and at lunch I was 3.8. >> >> It is just strange that most mornings I'm high I am normal by lunch but >> there's the odd day like today when it doesn't work and I can't find a >> reason why. Very mysterious! I use a higher insulin-to-carb ratio at >> breakfast as well than I do for the rest of the day, and this usually >> works >> whether I'm high or not. >> >> Jen >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 I went on lantus leaving ultrelente and to my surprise, it never worked out. If I increased it to get my morning sugar at 80 or so, I would wake up 35. If I decreased it, I would wake up 200. So, I tried for 1.5 months to try to master it and never could. Heck, I even tried split dosing it. I gave up, went back to ultrelente and my morning bgs are 80 to 90 all the time. 5.0 in Canadian grin. Regards, Dawn phenomenon > > I am wondering if the dawn phenomenon can be stronger or weaker on > different > > days. Usually if I am high in the morning I can get it down by lunch, but > there are some days, like today, when I eat the same things and there are > no > > other factors that are different that I can see, when I don't come down. > This morning I was 10.6 at breakfast and just now, at lunch, I was 10.8 > even > > though I gave extra insulin to correct it at breakfast in addition to > covering the carbs as I usually do. I have actually been getting more > morning highs in the past few weeks so maybe something has changed during > the night. In fact yesterday I was 10.8 in the morning and I did exactly > what I did today and at lunch I was 3.8. > > It is just strange that most mornings I'm high I am normal by lunch but > there's the odd day like today when it doesn't work and I can't find a > reason why. Very mysterious! I use a higher insulin-to-carb ratio at > breakfast as well than I do for the rest of the day, and this usually > works > whether I'm high or not. > > Jen > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 I went on lantus leaving ultrelente and to my surprise, it never worked out. If I increased it to get my morning sugar at 80 or so, I would wake up 35. If I decreased it, I would wake up 200. So, I tried for 1.5 months to try to master it and never could. Heck, I even tried split dosing it. I gave up, went back to ultrelente and my morning bgs are 80 to 90 all the time. 5.0 in Canadian grin. Regards, Dawn phenomenon > > I am wondering if the dawn phenomenon can be stronger or weaker on > different > > days. Usually if I am high in the morning I can get it down by lunch, but > there are some days, like today, when I eat the same things and there are > no > > other factors that are different that I can see, when I don't come down. > This morning I was 10.6 at breakfast and just now, at lunch, I was 10.8 > even > > though I gave extra insulin to correct it at breakfast in addition to > covering the carbs as I usually do. I have actually been getting more > morning highs in the past few weeks so maybe something has changed during > the night. In fact yesterday I was 10.8 in the morning and I did exactly > what I did today and at lunch I was 3.8. > > It is just strange that most mornings I'm high I am normal by lunch but > there's the odd day like today when it doesn't work and I can't find a > reason why. Very mysterious! I use a higher insulin-to-carb ratio at > breakfast as well than I do for the rest of the day, and this usually > works > whether I'm high or not. > > Jen > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 Hi Jen, have you thought that it could be your Lantus insulin that has lost its potency instead of the Humalog? Recently my levels were running high in the morning. I would go to bed with 7 and then wake up with it being 17!!! I was very frustrated with that for a number of mornings with it being high but when I changed my cartridge of Lantus insulin they started to come down and I could decrease my Humalog insulin once again. from down under Re: Dawn phenomenon > Yep, that's happened to me before, but usually when that happens I'll > definitely notice it. Last time it happened I was in the high teens for a > day or two no matter what I did, before I decided something wasn't right and > switched to a new cartridge of Humalog, and that fixed things. It hasn't > been too hot here, though, and I've made sure to keep the insulin in a > cooler part of the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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