Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Sorry but we disagree. The immediate characterization of kids with ADHD coming from single parent families, thus requiring discipline was way off base and somewhat biased. If the comment was regarding " a few " , then why bother, as it wouldn't apply to the many, would it? Again, would your reaction be different if the comment was geared towards, let's say, wellness coaches? We have to be careful to keep our personal bias separate from discussions that are freely accessible. Remember that even a " private " list is not really private. We have no right to privacy on the web, and so it behooves us to be respectful. That's the last comment I have on the situation! p Pam Charney pcharney@... " If all you ever do is all you've ever done, then all you'll ever get is all you ever got " - Anonymous > > > Jan originally said she has personally seen a FEW ADHD children who > would have been misdiagnosed. She did not seem to be " characterizing > families " with ADHD. > > There is room for both of these VALID comments! Pam, I always value > your posts, but this time I think you may have overreacted to Jan > trying to ask the questions about this woman's situation. Perhaps > you could re-read her original post. I didn't feel she overreached > her bounds or made any judgment by asking questions to try to > understand more about the situation, and then mentioning an > additional comment about a FEW children she has noted. As such, I > don't think you " missed the boat " on this one, Jan. > > Respectfully to BOTH of you fine ladies! > Diane Preves, M.S., R.D. > N.E.W. LIFE (Nutrition, Exercise, Wellness for LIFE) > www.newlifeforhealth.com > e-mail: newlife4health@..., newlife@... > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/newlifedianepreves > http://www.facebook.com/people/Diane-Preves/1357243185 > > Diet and ADHD > > > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > > Thanks, > > Lori > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Sorry but we disagree. The immediate characterization of kids with ADHD coming from single parent families, thus requiring discipline was way off base and somewhat biased. If the comment was regarding " a few " , then why bother, as it wouldn't apply to the many, would it? Again, would your reaction be different if the comment was geared towards, let's say, wellness coaches? We have to be careful to keep our personal bias separate from discussions that are freely accessible. Remember that even a " private " list is not really private. We have no right to privacy on the web, and so it behooves us to be respectful. That's the last comment I have on the situation! p Pam Charney pcharney@... " If all you ever do is all you've ever done, then all you'll ever get is all you ever got " - Anonymous > > > Jan originally said she has personally seen a FEW ADHD children who > would have been misdiagnosed. She did not seem to be " characterizing > families " with ADHD. > > There is room for both of these VALID comments! Pam, I always value > your posts, but this time I think you may have overreacted to Jan > trying to ask the questions about this woman's situation. Perhaps > you could re-read her original post. I didn't feel she overreached > her bounds or made any judgment by asking questions to try to > understand more about the situation, and then mentioning an > additional comment about a FEW children she has noted. As such, I > don't think you " missed the boat " on this one, Jan. > > Respectfully to BOTH of you fine ladies! > Diane Preves, M.S., R.D. > N.E.W. LIFE (Nutrition, Exercise, Wellness for LIFE) > www.newlifeforhealth.com > e-mail: newlife4health@..., newlife@... > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/newlifedianepreves > http://www.facebook.com/people/Diane-Preves/1357243185 > > Diet and ADHD > > > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > > Thanks, > > Lori > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Sorry but we disagree. The immediate characterization of kids with ADHD coming from single parent families, thus requiring discipline was way off base and somewhat biased. If the comment was regarding " a few " , then why bother, as it wouldn't apply to the many, would it? Again, would your reaction be different if the comment was geared towards, let's say, wellness coaches? We have to be careful to keep our personal bias separate from discussions that are freely accessible. Remember that even a " private " list is not really private. We have no right to privacy on the web, and so it behooves us to be respectful. That's the last comment I have on the situation! p Pam Charney pcharney@... " If all you ever do is all you've ever done, then all you'll ever get is all you ever got " - Anonymous > > > Jan originally said she has personally seen a FEW ADHD children who > would have been misdiagnosed. She did not seem to be " characterizing > families " with ADHD. > > There is room for both of these VALID comments! Pam, I always value > your posts, but this time I think you may have overreacted to Jan > trying to ask the questions about this woman's situation. Perhaps > you could re-read her original post. I didn't feel she overreached > her bounds or made any judgment by asking questions to try to > understand more about the situation, and then mentioning an > additional comment about a FEW children she has noted. As such, I > don't think you " missed the boat " on this one, Jan. > > Respectfully to BOTH of you fine ladies! > Diane Preves, M.S., R.D. > N.E.W. LIFE (Nutrition, Exercise, Wellness for LIFE) > www.newlifeforhealth.com > e-mail: newlife4health@..., newlife@... > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/newlifedianepreves > http://www.facebook.com/people/Diane-Preves/1357243185 > > Diet and ADHD > > > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > > Thanks, > > Lori > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Some kids certainly have ADHD and others appear to when there are issues at home.......also know this from personal experience. My nefew's teachers all said he must have ADHD but a wise pediatrician asked about the home enviroment before starting meds. It turns out he just need more attention from his dad (parents weren't even divorced). Three later he is doing wonderfully in school. Phelps MS, RD/LD, CDE > > > > > > > Would this coworker also ask her MD co-worker for free advice?? > > > > First, I recommend you value your services enough to let her know > > the value of your services and that " for free " you're happy to > > recommend she do her own leg-work. . . ;-) > > > > Is she a single, working mother? Is there a father in the picture? > > Personally, I've seen a few ADHD children that just needed the > > discipline their fathers gave, not a single mom. . . > > > > Also, has she eliminated food additives/chemicals? > > > > Just a bit of a rant. . . > > > > Jan Patenaude > > > > Diet and ADHD > > > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > > Thanks, > > Lori > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Some kids certainly have ADHD and others appear to when there are issues at home.......also know this from personal experience. My nefew's teachers all said he must have ADHD but a wise pediatrician asked about the home enviroment before starting meds. It turns out he just need more attention from his dad (parents weren't even divorced). Three later he is doing wonderfully in school. Phelps MS, RD/LD, CDE > > > > > > > Would this coworker also ask her MD co-worker for free advice?? > > > > First, I recommend you value your services enough to let her know > > the value of your services and that " for free " you're happy to > > recommend she do her own leg-work. . . ;-) > > > > Is she a single, working mother? Is there a father in the picture? > > Personally, I've seen a few ADHD children that just needed the > > discipline their fathers gave, not a single mom. . . > > > > Also, has she eliminated food additives/chemicals? > > > > Just a bit of a rant. . . > > > > Jan Patenaude > > > > Diet and ADHD > > > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > > Thanks, > > Lori > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Some kids certainly have ADHD and others appear to when there are issues at home.......also know this from personal experience. My nefew's teachers all said he must have ADHD but a wise pediatrician asked about the home enviroment before starting meds. It turns out he just need more attention from his dad (parents weren't even divorced). Three later he is doing wonderfully in school. Phelps MS, RD/LD, CDE > > > > > > > Would this coworker also ask her MD co-worker for free advice?? > > > > First, I recommend you value your services enough to let her know > > the value of your services and that " for free " you're happy to > > recommend she do her own leg-work. . . ;-) > > > > Is she a single, working mother? Is there a father in the picture? > > Personally, I've seen a few ADHD children that just needed the > > discipline their fathers gave, not a single mom. . . > > > > Also, has she eliminated food additives/chemicals? > > > > Just a bit of a rant. . . > > > > Jan Patenaude > > > > Diet and ADHD > > > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > > Thanks, > > Lori > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Again, tho, I have to agree with Pam, generalizations from personal experiences must remain outside of our practice. (sent via Blackberry) " You'll never do a whole lot unless you're brave enough to try. " ~ Dolly Parton Diet and ADHD > > > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > > Thanks, > > Lori > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Again, tho, I have to agree with Pam, generalizations from personal experiences must remain outside of our practice. (sent via Blackberry) " You'll never do a whole lot unless you're brave enough to try. " ~ Dolly Parton Diet and ADHD > > > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > > Thanks, > > Lori > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I disagree that this sort of opinion should be scrubbed from discussion, private or otherwise. I personally doubt there are only a few ADHD diagnoses that are incorrect and just caused by poor family dynamics! I think it may indeed be huge. Again, that has absolutely nothing to do with legitimate ADHD treatment. We don't have to shut up about it just because someone might choose to be offended by that opinion who really does benefit from medical treatment of ADHD. W. Rowell, RD, LN, CLT Long Term Care Consulting Montana State Hospital Certified LEAP Therapist ________________________________ From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Pam Charney Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:00 PM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Diet and ADHD Sorry but we disagree. The immediate characterization of kids with ADHD coming from single parent families, thus requiring discipline was way off base and somewhat biased. If the comment was regarding " a few " , then why bother, as it wouldn't apply to the many, would it? Again, would your reaction be different if the comment was geared towards, let's say, wellness coaches? We have to be careful to keep our personal bias separate from discussions that are freely accessible. Remember that even a " private " list is not really private. We have no right to privacy on the web, and so it behooves us to be respectful. That's the last comment I have on the situation! p Pam Charney pcharney@...<mailto:pcharney%40mac.com> " If all you ever do is all you've ever done, then all you'll ever get is all you ever got " - Anonymous > > > Jan originally said she has personally seen a FEW ADHD children who > would have been misdiagnosed. She did not seem to be " characterizing > families " with ADHD. > > There is room for both of these VALID comments! Pam, I always value > your posts, but this time I think you may have overreacted to Jan > trying to ask the questions about this woman's situation. Perhaps > you could re-read her original post. I didn't feel she overreached > her bounds or made any judgment by asking questions to try to > understand more about the situation, and then mentioning an > additional comment about a FEW children she has noted. As such, I > don't think you " missed the boat " on this one, Jan. > > Respectfully to BOTH of you fine ladies! > Diane Preves, M.S., R.D. > N.E.W. LIFE (Nutrition, Exercise, Wellness for LIFE) > www.newlifeforhealth.com > e-mail: newlife4health@...<mailto:newlife4health%40aol.com>, newlife@...<mailto:newlife%40newlifeforhealth.com> > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/newlifedianepreves > http://www.facebook.com/people/Diane-Preves/1357243185 > > Diet and ADHD > > > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > > Thanks, > > Lori > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I disagree that this sort of opinion should be scrubbed from discussion, private or otherwise. I personally doubt there are only a few ADHD diagnoses that are incorrect and just caused by poor family dynamics! I think it may indeed be huge. Again, that has absolutely nothing to do with legitimate ADHD treatment. We don't have to shut up about it just because someone might choose to be offended by that opinion who really does benefit from medical treatment of ADHD. W. Rowell, RD, LN, CLT Long Term Care Consulting Montana State Hospital Certified LEAP Therapist ________________________________ From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Pam Charney Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:00 PM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Diet and ADHD Sorry but we disagree. The immediate characterization of kids with ADHD coming from single parent families, thus requiring discipline was way off base and somewhat biased. If the comment was regarding " a few " , then why bother, as it wouldn't apply to the many, would it? Again, would your reaction be different if the comment was geared towards, let's say, wellness coaches? We have to be careful to keep our personal bias separate from discussions that are freely accessible. Remember that even a " private " list is not really private. We have no right to privacy on the web, and so it behooves us to be respectful. That's the last comment I have on the situation! p Pam Charney pcharney@...<mailto:pcharney%40mac.com> " If all you ever do is all you've ever done, then all you'll ever get is all you ever got " - Anonymous > > > Jan originally said she has personally seen a FEW ADHD children who > would have been misdiagnosed. She did not seem to be " characterizing > families " with ADHD. > > There is room for both of these VALID comments! Pam, I always value > your posts, but this time I think you may have overreacted to Jan > trying to ask the questions about this woman's situation. Perhaps > you could re-read her original post. I didn't feel she overreached > her bounds or made any judgment by asking questions to try to > understand more about the situation, and then mentioning an > additional comment about a FEW children she has noted. As such, I > don't think you " missed the boat " on this one, Jan. > > Respectfully to BOTH of you fine ladies! > Diane Preves, M.S., R.D. > N.E.W. LIFE (Nutrition, Exercise, Wellness for LIFE) > www.newlifeforhealth.com > e-mail: newlife4health@...<mailto:newlife4health%40aol.com>, newlife@...<mailto:newlife%40newlifeforhealth.com> > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/newlifedianepreves > http://www.facebook.com/people/Diane-Preves/1357243185 > > Diet and ADHD > > > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > > Thanks, > > Lori > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Why? Those generalizations could be correct. No one is claiming they are scientific. W. Rowell, RD, LN, CLT Long Term Care Consulting Montana State Hospital Certified LEAP Therapist ________________________________ From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of carolscasey@... Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:33 PM To: RD-USA Subject: Re: Re: Diet and ADHD Again, tho, I have to agree with Pam, generalizations from personal experiences must remain outside of our practice. (sent via Blackberry) " You'll never do a whole lot unless you're brave enough to try. " ~ Dolly Parton Diet and ADHD > > > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > > Thanks, > > Lori > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Why? Those generalizations could be correct. No one is claiming they are scientific. W. Rowell, RD, LN, CLT Long Term Care Consulting Montana State Hospital Certified LEAP Therapist ________________________________ From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of carolscasey@... Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:33 PM To: RD-USA Subject: Re: Re: Diet and ADHD Again, tho, I have to agree with Pam, generalizations from personal experiences must remain outside of our practice. (sent via Blackberry) " You'll never do a whole lot unless you're brave enough to try. " ~ Dolly Parton Diet and ADHD > > > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > > Thanks, > > Lori > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I am confused. The generalizations don't seem to be coming from the people sharing personal experiences--we all seem to understand that those are exceptions to BE AWARE OF! Diane Diet and ADHD > > > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > > Thanks, > > Lori > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I am confused. The generalizations don't seem to be coming from the people sharing personal experiences--we all seem to understand that those are exceptions to BE AWARE OF! Diane Diet and ADHD > > > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > > Thanks, > > Lori > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 " The immediate characterization of kids with ADHD coming from single parent families, thus requiring discipline was way off base and somewhat biased. If the comment was regarding " a few " , then why bother, as it wouldn't apply to the many, would it? " -- Are we not concerned with the few as well as the many? Diane Diet and ADHD > > > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > > Thanks, > > Lori > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 " The immediate characterization of kids with ADHD coming from single parent families, thus requiring discipline was way off base and somewhat biased. If the comment was regarding " a few " , then why bother, as it wouldn't apply to the many, would it? " -- Are we not concerned with the few as well as the many? Diane Diet and ADHD > > > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > > Thanks, > > Lori > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I just wanted to mention that this young lady is not a single parent. > > > > > > > Would this coworker also ask her MD co-worker for free advice?? > > > > First, I recommend you value your services enough to let her know > > the value of your services and that " for free " you're happy to > > recommend she do her own leg-work. . . ;-) > > > > Is she a single, working mother? Is there a father in the picture? > > Personally, I've seen a few ADHD children that just needed the > > discipline their fathers gave, not a single mom. . . > > > > Also, has she eliminated food additives/chemicals ? > > > > Just a bit of a rant. . . > > > > Jan Patenaude > > > > Diet and ADHD > > > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > > Thanks, > > Lori > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I just wanted to mention that this young lady is not a single parent. > > > > > > > Would this coworker also ask her MD co-worker for free advice?? > > > > First, I recommend you value your services enough to let her know > > the value of your services and that " for free " you're happy to > > recommend she do her own leg-work. . . ;-) > > > > Is she a single, working mother? Is there a father in the picture? > > Personally, I've seen a few ADHD children that just needed the > > discipline their fathers gave, not a single mom. . . > > > > Also, has she eliminated food additives/chemicals ? > > > > Just a bit of a rant. . . > > > > Jan Patenaude > > > > Diet and ADHD > > > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > > Thanks, > > Lori > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Rowell, wrote: > Why? Those generalizations could be correct. No one is claiming they are scientific. Also, every hypothesis begins with an observation; then proceeds to become a theory, which is then tested. It may very well be there is a subset of the population that is being treated for ADHD when they don't actually have ADHD. Starting with an observation such as Jan's, we might proceed to a hypothesis, then to a theory, then to a study. And it might well teach us all about diagnosing ADHD correctly. - Kathyrnne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Rowell, wrote: > Why? Those generalizations could be correct. No one is claiming they are scientific. Also, every hypothesis begins with an observation; then proceeds to become a theory, which is then tested. It may very well be there is a subset of the population that is being treated for ADHD when they don't actually have ADHD. Starting with an observation such as Jan's, we might proceed to a hypothesis, then to a theory, then to a study. And it might well teach us all about diagnosing ADHD correctly. - Kathyrnne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Pam: I understand what you mean and share some of your feelings. I didn't really pay attention to Jan's post before I read yours bc I was rushing this week as I've had to be away quite a bit. I was never dx as ADHD was unknown way back when, but my oldest daughter (now 46) was dx as ADD, and my youngest (now 41) as ADHD. The dx were accurate, I opted for no drug treatments for them, and it worked out for both. My 2 oldest g/sons however, were misdiagnosed in the mid 90s with near disastrous consequences. Both were heavily medicated, something I'll always regret having allowed but I had few choices since my husband and I had to take immediate custody of 2 explosions at ages 4 & 6. Almost six years later, the oldest was dx as having Autistic disorder, the youngest with an extreme Tourrette's syndrome. Many of the drugs given to them were not only inappropriate and wrongly prescribed, but they also exacerbated their symptoms and behaviors, and had some very painful and negative side effects. I can understand Jan's skepticism of the dx of ADHD and the ensuing quick cure or easy solution. Had I been able to take the time and do more research instead of accepting the first opinion and appartent solution, perhaps their lives, and ours, would have been a bit easier. Digna Diet and ADHD > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > Thanks, > Lori > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Reading this thread brought up many memories for me. I have a neice and nephew who are dx ADHD ADD. They are the products of parents with no follow thru, lots of yelling and rewards for unacceptable behavior. My neice got a trip to Italy with her mom after being found smoking pot, lying about where and with whom she was going, my nephew got a trip to visit his sister out west after cutting classes and failing 3 out of 5 and continuing to steal money from his mom...my sil cannot seem to see how counter productive her approach may be. Her response to my questioning the appropriateness of these trips? I promised them! I no longer say anything about the parenting and pray that these young people will be okay. Both children have been in special ed since they started school. And, by the way, their eating habits are atrocious. Madalyn ________________________________ To: " rd-usa " <rd-usa > Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:24:38 PM Subject: RE: Diet and ADHD I disagree that this sort of opinion should be scrubbed from discussion, private or otherwise. I personally doubt there are only a few ADHD diagnoses that are incorrect and just caused by poor family dynamics! I think it may indeed be huge. Again, that has absolutely nothing to do with legitimate ADHD treatment. We don't have to shut up about it just because someone might choose to be offended by that opinion who really does benefit from medical treatment of ADHD. W. Rowell, RD, LN, CLT Long Term Care Consulting Montana State Hospital Certified LEAP Therapist ____________ _________ _________ __ From: rd-usayahoogroups (DOT) com [mailto:rd-usayahoogroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Pam Charney Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:00 PM To: rd-usayahoogroups (DOT) com Subject: Re: Diet and ADHD Sorry but we disagree. The immediate characterization of kids with ADHD coming from single parent families, thus requiring discipline was way off base and somewhat biased. If the comment was regarding " a few " , then why bother, as it wouldn't apply to the many, would it? Again, would your reaction be different if the comment was geared towards, let's say, wellness coaches? We have to be careful to keep our personal bias separate from discussions that are freely accessible. Remember that even a " private " list is not really private. We have no right to privacy on the web, and so it behooves us to be respectful. That's the last comment I have on the situation! p Pam Charney pcharneymac (DOT) com<mailto:pcharney% 40mac.com> " If all you ever do is all you've ever done, then all you'll ever get is all you ever got " - Anonymous > > > Jan originally said she has personally seen a FEW ADHD children who > would have been misdiagnosed. She did not seem to be " characterizing > families " with ADHD. > > There is room for both of these VALID comments! Pam, I always value > your posts, but this time I think you may have overreacted to Jan > trying to ask the questions about this woman's situation. Perhaps > you could re-read her original post. I didn't feel she overreached > her bounds or made any judgment by asking questions to try to > understand more about the situation, and then mentioning an > additional comment about a FEW children she has noted. As such, I > don't think you " missed the boat " on this one, Jan. > > Respectfully to BOTH of you fine ladies! > Diane Preves, M.S., R.D. > N.E.W. LIFE (Nutrition, Exercise, Wellness for LIFE) > www.newlifeforhealt h.com > e-mail: newlife4health@ aol.com<mailto:newlife4hea lth%40aol. com>, newlife@newlifeforh ealth.com<mailto:newlife% 40newlifeforheal th.com> > > > > http://www.linkedin .com/in/newlifed ianepreves > http://www.facebook .com/people/ Diane-Preves/ 1357243185 > > Diet and ADHD > > > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > > Thanks, > > Lori > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Reading this thread brought up many memories for me. I have a neice and nephew who are dx ADHD ADD. They are the products of parents with no follow thru, lots of yelling and rewards for unacceptable behavior. My neice got a trip to Italy with her mom after being found smoking pot, lying about where and with whom she was going, my nephew got a trip to visit his sister out west after cutting classes and failing 3 out of 5 and continuing to steal money from his mom...my sil cannot seem to see how counter productive her approach may be. Her response to my questioning the appropriateness of these trips? I promised them! I no longer say anything about the parenting and pray that these young people will be okay. Both children have been in special ed since they started school. And, by the way, their eating habits are atrocious. Madalyn ________________________________ To: " rd-usa " <rd-usa > Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:24:38 PM Subject: RE: Diet and ADHD I disagree that this sort of opinion should be scrubbed from discussion, private or otherwise. I personally doubt there are only a few ADHD diagnoses that are incorrect and just caused by poor family dynamics! I think it may indeed be huge. Again, that has absolutely nothing to do with legitimate ADHD treatment. We don't have to shut up about it just because someone might choose to be offended by that opinion who really does benefit from medical treatment of ADHD. W. Rowell, RD, LN, CLT Long Term Care Consulting Montana State Hospital Certified LEAP Therapist ____________ _________ _________ __ From: rd-usayahoogroups (DOT) com [mailto:rd-usayahoogroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Pam Charney Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:00 PM To: rd-usayahoogroups (DOT) com Subject: Re: Diet and ADHD Sorry but we disagree. The immediate characterization of kids with ADHD coming from single parent families, thus requiring discipline was way off base and somewhat biased. If the comment was regarding " a few " , then why bother, as it wouldn't apply to the many, would it? Again, would your reaction be different if the comment was geared towards, let's say, wellness coaches? We have to be careful to keep our personal bias separate from discussions that are freely accessible. Remember that even a " private " list is not really private. We have no right to privacy on the web, and so it behooves us to be respectful. That's the last comment I have on the situation! p Pam Charney pcharneymac (DOT) com<mailto:pcharney% 40mac.com> " If all you ever do is all you've ever done, then all you'll ever get is all you ever got " - Anonymous > > > Jan originally said she has personally seen a FEW ADHD children who > would have been misdiagnosed. She did not seem to be " characterizing > families " with ADHD. > > There is room for both of these VALID comments! Pam, I always value > your posts, but this time I think you may have overreacted to Jan > trying to ask the questions about this woman's situation. Perhaps > you could re-read her original post. I didn't feel she overreached > her bounds or made any judgment by asking questions to try to > understand more about the situation, and then mentioning an > additional comment about a FEW children she has noted. As such, I > don't think you " missed the boat " on this one, Jan. > > Respectfully to BOTH of you fine ladies! > Diane Preves, M.S., R.D. > N.E.W. LIFE (Nutrition, Exercise, Wellness for LIFE) > www.newlifeforhealt h.com > e-mail: newlife4health@ aol.com<mailto:newlife4hea lth%40aol. com>, newlife@newlifeforh ealth.com<mailto:newlife% 40newlifeforheal th.com> > > > > http://www.linkedin .com/in/newlifed ianepreves > http://www.facebook .com/people/ Diane-Preves/ 1357243185 > > Diet and ADHD > > > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > > Thanks, > > Lori > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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