Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 My youngest was diagnosed at age 4 as well, I could try to help if you give her my email or she could call . I have voice mail on that phone and could get back to her. Diet and ADHD I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, does anyone care to share information they have found to be effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! Thanks, Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 My youngest was diagnosed at age 4 as well, I could try to help if you give her my email or she could call . I have voice mail on that phone and could get back to her. Diet and ADHD I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, does anyone care to share information they have found to be effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! Thanks, Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 My youngest was diagnosed at age 4 as well, I could try to help if you give her my email or she could call . I have voice mail on that phone and could get back to her. Diet and ADHD I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, does anyone care to share information they have found to be effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! Thanks, Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Have you already looked in to omega-3 fatty acid supplementation? I know there were some studies on this... Dienna Weiss, CSCS Dietetic Intern Hurley Medical Center, MI To: rd-usa From: lowyble@... Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 06:20:50 -0700 Subject: Diet and ADHD I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, does anyone care to share information they have found to be effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! Thanks, Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Would this coworker also ask her MD co-worker for free advice?? First, I recommend you value your services enough to let her know the value of your services and that " for free " you're happy to recommend she do her own leg-work. . . ;-) Is she a single, working mother? Is there a father in the picture? Personally, I've seen a few ADHD children that just needed the discipline their fathers gave, not a single mom. . . Also, has she eliminated food additives/chemicals? Just a bit of a rant. . . Jan Patenaude Diet and ADHD I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, does anyone care to share information they have found to be effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! Thanks, Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Would this coworker also ask her MD co-worker for free advice?? First, I recommend you value your services enough to let her know the value of your services and that " for free " you're happy to recommend she do her own leg-work. . . ;-) Is she a single, working mother? Is there a father in the picture? Personally, I've seen a few ADHD children that just needed the discipline their fathers gave, not a single mom. . . Also, has she eliminated food additives/chemicals? Just a bit of a rant. . . Jan Patenaude Diet and ADHD I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, does anyone care to share information they have found to be effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! Thanks, Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I hear you loud and clear Jan! However, I thought it might be a good opportunity to learn a little something. The food additives interest me as an oncology dietitian...it sounds like the best advice is an elimination diet which means I am recommending a pediatric RD in the area! Thanks, Lori Subject: Re: Diet and ADHD To: rd-usa Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 11:44 AM Would this coworker also ask her MD co-worker for free advice?? First, I recommend you value your services enough to let her know the value of your services and that " for free " you're happy to recommend she do her own leg-work. . . ;-) Is she a single, working mother? Is there a father in the picture? Personally, I've seen a few ADHD children that just needed the discipline their fathers gave, not a single mom. . . Also, has she eliminated food additives/chemicals ? Just a bit of a rant. . . Jan Patenaude Diet and ADHD I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, does anyone care to share information they have found to be effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! Thanks, Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I hear you loud and clear Jan! However, I thought it might be a good opportunity to learn a little something. The food additives interest me as an oncology dietitian...it sounds like the best advice is an elimination diet which means I am recommending a pediatric RD in the area! Thanks, Lori Subject: Re: Diet and ADHD To: rd-usa Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 11:44 AM Would this coworker also ask her MD co-worker for free advice?? First, I recommend you value your services enough to let her know the value of your services and that " for free " you're happy to recommend she do her own leg-work. . . ;-) Is she a single, working mother? Is there a father in the picture? Personally, I've seen a few ADHD children that just needed the discipline their fathers gave, not a single mom. . . Also, has she eliminated food additives/chemicals ? Just a bit of a rant. . . Jan Patenaude Diet and ADHD I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, does anyone care to share information they have found to be effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! Thanks, Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I hear you loud and clear Jan! However, I thought it might be a good opportunity to learn a little something. The food additives interest me as an oncology dietitian...it sounds like the best advice is an elimination diet which means I am recommending a pediatric RD in the area! Thanks, Lori Subject: Re: Diet and ADHD To: rd-usa Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 11:44 AM Would this coworker also ask her MD co-worker for free advice?? First, I recommend you value your services enough to let her know the value of your services and that " for free " you're happy to recommend she do her own leg-work. . . ;-) Is she a single, working mother? Is there a father in the picture? Personally, I've seen a few ADHD children that just needed the discipline their fathers gave, not a single mom. . . Also, has she eliminated food additives/chemicals ? Just a bit of a rant. . . Jan Patenaude Diet and ADHD I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, does anyone care to share information they have found to be effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! Thanks, Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Jan, Once again, I think you've gone a bit too far. Please let's not characterize families who are dealing with ADHD as simply lacking " the discipline their fathers give, not a single mom " . If I were to say that folks dealing with IBS, which you will so readily state needs not discipline but a special diet and lab tests, " these folks need discipline that their fathers give, not a single mom " , I think you'd be rightly outraged. While I usually don't drag my own personal stories into things, I'd say that as someone with ADHD myself, having 3 lovely, intelligent, and semi-well-behaved daughters, all with ADHD I have some issues with your statement. I managed to get a PhD, and am now working on a second MS degree. My oldest is gainfully employed as an employment lawyer in a large NYC firm. My younger daughters are both well above average in intelligence. We treat our disorder with appropriate counseling, behavior modification and medication when needed. We are not lacking discipline, nor do we need an elimination diet, which has most assuredly not proven to be effective. Most of the time, your responses are very on target. Today, you missed the boat. Regards, pam Pam Charney pcharney@... " If all you ever do is all you've ever done, then all you'll ever get is all you ever got " - Anonymous > > > Would this coworker also ask her MD co-worker for free advice?? > > First, I recommend you value your services enough to let her know > the value of your services and that " for free " you're happy to > recommend she do her own leg-work. . . ;-) > > Is she a single, working mother? Is there a father in the picture? > Personally, I've seen a few ADHD children that just needed the > discipline their fathers gave, not a single mom. . . > > Also, has she eliminated food additives/chemicals? > > Just a bit of a rant. . . > > Jan Patenaude > > Diet and ADHD > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > Thanks, > Lori > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Jan, Once again, I think you've gone a bit too far. Please let's not characterize families who are dealing with ADHD as simply lacking " the discipline their fathers give, not a single mom " . If I were to say that folks dealing with IBS, which you will so readily state needs not discipline but a special diet and lab tests, " these folks need discipline that their fathers give, not a single mom " , I think you'd be rightly outraged. While I usually don't drag my own personal stories into things, I'd say that as someone with ADHD myself, having 3 lovely, intelligent, and semi-well-behaved daughters, all with ADHD I have some issues with your statement. I managed to get a PhD, and am now working on a second MS degree. My oldest is gainfully employed as an employment lawyer in a large NYC firm. My younger daughters are both well above average in intelligence. We treat our disorder with appropriate counseling, behavior modification and medication when needed. We are not lacking discipline, nor do we need an elimination diet, which has most assuredly not proven to be effective. Most of the time, your responses are very on target. Today, you missed the boat. Regards, pam Pam Charney pcharney@... " If all you ever do is all you've ever done, then all you'll ever get is all you ever got " - Anonymous > > > Would this coworker also ask her MD co-worker for free advice?? > > First, I recommend you value your services enough to let her know > the value of your services and that " for free " you're happy to > recommend she do her own leg-work. . . ;-) > > Is she a single, working mother? Is there a father in the picture? > Personally, I've seen a few ADHD children that just needed the > discipline their fathers gave, not a single mom. . . > > Also, has she eliminated food additives/chemicals? > > Just a bit of a rant. . . > > Jan Patenaude > > Diet and ADHD > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > Thanks, > Lori > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Jan, Once again, I think you've gone a bit too far. Please let's not characterize families who are dealing with ADHD as simply lacking " the discipline their fathers give, not a single mom " . If I were to say that folks dealing with IBS, which you will so readily state needs not discipline but a special diet and lab tests, " these folks need discipline that their fathers give, not a single mom " , I think you'd be rightly outraged. While I usually don't drag my own personal stories into things, I'd say that as someone with ADHD myself, having 3 lovely, intelligent, and semi-well-behaved daughters, all with ADHD I have some issues with your statement. I managed to get a PhD, and am now working on a second MS degree. My oldest is gainfully employed as an employment lawyer in a large NYC firm. My younger daughters are both well above average in intelligence. We treat our disorder with appropriate counseling, behavior modification and medication when needed. We are not lacking discipline, nor do we need an elimination diet, which has most assuredly not proven to be effective. Most of the time, your responses are very on target. Today, you missed the boat. Regards, pam Pam Charney pcharney@... " If all you ever do is all you've ever done, then all you'll ever get is all you ever got " - Anonymous > > > Would this coworker also ask her MD co-worker for free advice?? > > First, I recommend you value your services enough to let her know > the value of your services and that " for free " you're happy to > recommend she do her own leg-work. . . ;-) > > Is she a single, working mother? Is there a father in the picture? > Personally, I've seen a few ADHD children that just needed the > discipline their fathers gave, not a single mom. . . > > Also, has she eliminated food additives/chemicals? > > Just a bit of a rant. . . > > Jan Patenaude > > Diet and ADHD > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > Thanks, > Lori > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I have concur Pam. I have. 26 year old son who is a journeyman electrician. He has ADHD. Throughout his youth I tried various elimination diets with no effect. (sent via Blackberry) " You'll never do a whole lot unless you're brave enough to try. " ~ Dolly Parton Diet and ADHD > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > Thanks, > Lori > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I have concur Pam. I have. 26 year old son who is a journeyman electrician. He has ADHD. Throughout his youth I tried various elimination diets with no effect. (sent via Blackberry) " You'll never do a whole lot unless you're brave enough to try. " ~ Dolly Parton Diet and ADHD > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > Thanks, > Lori > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I have concur Pam. I have. 26 year old son who is a journeyman electrician. He has ADHD. Throughout his youth I tried various elimination diets with no effect. (sent via Blackberry) " You'll never do a whole lot unless you're brave enough to try. " ~ Dolly Parton Diet and ADHD > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > Thanks, > Lori > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Thanks Pam. I'm adequately chastised!? ;-) And yes, I may be a bit biased and judgemental!? But, my comments were based on personal experience with children that would have been medicated otherwise! .? I'd hate to see kids medicated when the REAL solution was discipline in the family. . .? I've known kids diagnosed with ADHD when living with mothers, but ADHD wasn't an issue when they lived with their fathers . . Jan Jan, Once again, I think you've gone a bit too far. Please let's not characterize families who are dealing with ADHD as simply lacking " the discipline their fathers give, not a single mom " . If I were to say that folks dealing with IBS, which you will so readily state needs not discipline but a special diet and lab tests, " these folks need discipline that their fathers give, not a single mom " , I think you'd be rightly outraged. While I usually don't drag my own personal stories into things, I'd say that as someone with ADHD myself, having 3 lovely, intelligent, and semi-well-behaved daughters, all with ADHD I have some issues with your statement. I managed to get a PhD, and am now working on a second MS degree. My oldest is gainfully employed as an employment lawyer in a large NYC firm. My younger daughters are both well above average in intelligence. We treat our disorder with appropriate counseling, behavior modification and medication when needed. We are not lacking discipline, nor do we need an elimination diet, which has most assuredly not proven to be effective. Most of the time, your responses are very on target. Today, you missed the boat. Regards, pam Pam Charney pcharney@... " If all you ever do is all you've ever done, then all you'll ever get is all you ever got " - Anonymous > > > Would this coworker also ask her MD co-worker for free advice?? > > First, I recommend you value your services enough to let her know > the value of your services and that " for free " you're happy to > recommend she do her own leg-work. . . ;-) > > Is she a single, working mother? Is there a father in the picture? > Personally, I've seen a few ADHD children that just needed the > discipline their fathers gave, not a single mom. . . > > Also, has she eliminated food additives/chemicals? > > Just a bit of a rant. . . > > Jan Patenaude > > Diet and ADHD > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > Thanks, > Lori > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Thanks Pam. I'm adequately chastised!? ;-) And yes, I may be a bit biased and judgemental!? But, my comments were based on personal experience with children that would have been medicated otherwise! .? I'd hate to see kids medicated when the REAL solution was discipline in the family. . .? I've known kids diagnosed with ADHD when living with mothers, but ADHD wasn't an issue when they lived with their fathers . . Jan Jan, Once again, I think you've gone a bit too far. Please let's not characterize families who are dealing with ADHD as simply lacking " the discipline their fathers give, not a single mom " . If I were to say that folks dealing with IBS, which you will so readily state needs not discipline but a special diet and lab tests, " these folks need discipline that their fathers give, not a single mom " , I think you'd be rightly outraged. While I usually don't drag my own personal stories into things, I'd say that as someone with ADHD myself, having 3 lovely, intelligent, and semi-well-behaved daughters, all with ADHD I have some issues with your statement. I managed to get a PhD, and am now working on a second MS degree. My oldest is gainfully employed as an employment lawyer in a large NYC firm. My younger daughters are both well above average in intelligence. We treat our disorder with appropriate counseling, behavior modification and medication when needed. We are not lacking discipline, nor do we need an elimination diet, which has most assuredly not proven to be effective. Most of the time, your responses are very on target. Today, you missed the boat. Regards, pam Pam Charney pcharney@... " If all you ever do is all you've ever done, then all you'll ever get is all you ever got " - Anonymous > > > Would this coworker also ask her MD co-worker for free advice?? > > First, I recommend you value your services enough to let her know > the value of your services and that " for free " you're happy to > recommend she do her own leg-work. . . ;-) > > Is she a single, working mother? Is there a father in the picture? > Personally, I've seen a few ADHD children that just needed the > discipline their fathers gave, not a single mom. . . > > Also, has she eliminated food additives/chemicals? > > Just a bit of a rant. . . > > Jan Patenaude > > Diet and ADHD > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > Thanks, > Lori > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Thanks Pam. I'm adequately chastised!? ;-) And yes, I may be a bit biased and judgemental!? But, my comments were based on personal experience with children that would have been medicated otherwise! .? I'd hate to see kids medicated when the REAL solution was discipline in the family. . .? I've known kids diagnosed with ADHD when living with mothers, but ADHD wasn't an issue when they lived with their fathers . . Jan Jan, Once again, I think you've gone a bit too far. Please let's not characterize families who are dealing with ADHD as simply lacking " the discipline their fathers give, not a single mom " . If I were to say that folks dealing with IBS, which you will so readily state needs not discipline but a special diet and lab tests, " these folks need discipline that their fathers give, not a single mom " , I think you'd be rightly outraged. While I usually don't drag my own personal stories into things, I'd say that as someone with ADHD myself, having 3 lovely, intelligent, and semi-well-behaved daughters, all with ADHD I have some issues with your statement. I managed to get a PhD, and am now working on a second MS degree. My oldest is gainfully employed as an employment lawyer in a large NYC firm. My younger daughters are both well above average in intelligence. We treat our disorder with appropriate counseling, behavior modification and medication when needed. We are not lacking discipline, nor do we need an elimination diet, which has most assuredly not proven to be effective. Most of the time, your responses are very on target. Today, you missed the boat. Regards, pam Pam Charney pcharney@... " If all you ever do is all you've ever done, then all you'll ever get is all you ever got " - Anonymous > > > Would this coworker also ask her MD co-worker for free advice?? > > First, I recommend you value your services enough to let her know > the value of your services and that " for free " you're happy to > recommend she do her own leg-work. . . ;-) > > Is she a single, working mother? Is there a father in the picture? > Personally, I've seen a few ADHD children that just needed the > discipline their fathers gave, not a single mom. . . > > Also, has she eliminated food additives/chemicals? > > Just a bit of a rant. . . > > Jan Patenaude > > Diet and ADHD > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > Thanks, > Lori > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Thanks Pam. I'm adequately chastised!? ;-) And yes, I may be a bit biased and judgemental!? But, my comments were based on personal experience with children that would have been medicated otherwise! .? I'd hate to see kids medicated when the REAL solution was discipline in the family. . .? I've known kids diagnosed with ADHD when living with mothers, but ADHD wasn't an issue when they lived with their fathers . . Jan Jan, Once again, I think you've gone a bit too far. Please let's not characterize families who are dealing with ADHD as simply lacking " the discipline their fathers give, not a single mom " . If I were to say that folks dealing with IBS, which you will so readily state needs not discipline but a special diet and lab tests, " these folks need discipline that their fathers give, not a single mom " , I think you'd be rightly outraged. While I usually don't drag my own personal stories into things, I'd say that as someone with ADHD myself, having 3 lovely, intelligent, and semi-well-behaved daughters, all with ADHD I have some issues with your statement. I managed to get a PhD, and am now working on a second MS degree. My oldest is gainfully employed as an employment lawyer in a large NYC firm. My younger daughters are both well above average in intelligence. We treat our disorder with appropriate counseling, behavior modification and medication when needed. We are not lacking discipline, nor do we need an elimination diet, which has most assuredly not proven to be effective. Most of the time, your responses are very on target. Today, you missed the boat. Regards, pam Pam Charney pcharney@... " If all you ever do is all you've ever done, then all you'll ever get is all you ever got " - Anonymous > > > Would this coworker also ask her MD co-worker for free advice?? > > First, I recommend you value your services enough to let her know > the value of your services and that " for free " you're happy to > recommend she do her own leg-work. . . ;-) > > Is she a single, working mother? Is there a father in the picture? > Personally, I've seen a few ADHD children that just needed the > discipline their fathers gave, not a single mom. . . > > Also, has she eliminated food additives/chemicals? > > Just a bit of a rant. . . > > Jan Patenaude > > Diet and ADHD > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > Thanks, > Lori > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Jan originally said she has personally seen a FEW ADHD children who would have been misdiagnosed. She did not seem to be " characterizing families " with ADHD. There is room for both of these VALID comments! Pam, I always value your posts, but this time I think you may have overreacted to Jan trying to ask the questions about this woman's situation. Perhaps you could re-read her original post. I didn't feel she overreached her bounds or made any judgment by asking questions to try to understand more about the situation, and then mentioning an additional comment about a FEW children she has noted. As such, I don't think you " missed the boat " on this one, Jan. Respectfully to BOTH of you fine ladies! Diane Preves, M.S., R.D. N.E.W. LIFE (Nutrition, Exercise, Wellness for LIFE) www.newlifeforhealth.com e-mail: newlife4health@..., newlife@... http://www.linkedin.com/in/newlifedianepreves http://www.facebook.com/people/Diane-Preves/1357243185 Diet and ADHD > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > Thanks, > Lori > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Jan originally said she has personally seen a FEW ADHD children who would have been misdiagnosed. She did not seem to be " characterizing families " with ADHD. There is room for both of these VALID comments! Pam, I always value your posts, but this time I think you may have overreacted to Jan trying to ask the questions about this woman's situation. Perhaps you could re-read her original post. I didn't feel she overreached her bounds or made any judgment by asking questions to try to understand more about the situation, and then mentioning an additional comment about a FEW children she has noted. As such, I don't think you " missed the boat " on this one, Jan. Respectfully to BOTH of you fine ladies! Diane Preves, M.S., R.D. N.E.W. LIFE (Nutrition, Exercise, Wellness for LIFE) www.newlifeforhealth.com e-mail: newlife4health@..., newlife@... http://www.linkedin.com/in/newlifedianepreves http://www.facebook.com/people/Diane-Preves/1357243185 Diet and ADHD > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > Thanks, > Lori > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Jan originally said she has personally seen a FEW ADHD children who would have been misdiagnosed. She did not seem to be " characterizing families " with ADHD. There is room for both of these VALID comments! Pam, I always value your posts, but this time I think you may have overreacted to Jan trying to ask the questions about this woman's situation. Perhaps you could re-read her original post. I didn't feel she overreached her bounds or made any judgment by asking questions to try to understand more about the situation, and then mentioning an additional comment about a FEW children she has noted. As such, I don't think you " missed the boat " on this one, Jan. Respectfully to BOTH of you fine ladies! Diane Preves, M.S., R.D. N.E.W. LIFE (Nutrition, Exercise, Wellness for LIFE) www.newlifeforhealth.com e-mail: newlife4health@..., newlife@... http://www.linkedin.com/in/newlifedianepreves http://www.facebook.com/people/Diane-Preves/1357243185 Diet and ADHD > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > Thanks, > Lori > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I, too think ADHD is misdiagnosed in many cases, when behavior and parental control is a better solution. That has nothing to do with the fact that some people suffer from ADHD that benefit from treatment. Dave ________________________________ From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Jan Patenaude Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:20 AM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Diet and ADHD Thanks Pam. I'm adequately chastised!? ;-) And yes, I may be a bit biased and judgemental!? But, my comments were based on personal experience with children that would have been medicated otherwise! .? I'd hate to see kids medicated when the REAL solution was discipline in the family. . .? I've known kids diagnosed with ADHD when living with mothers, but ADHD wasn't an issue when they lived with their fathers . . Jan Jan, Once again, I think you've gone a bit too far. Please let's not characterize families who are dealing with ADHD as simply lacking " the discipline their fathers give, not a single mom " . If I were to say that folks dealing with IBS, which you will so readily state needs not discipline but a special diet and lab tests, " these folks need discipline that their fathers give, not a single mom " , I think you'd be rightly outraged. While I usually don't drag my own personal stories into things, I'd say that as someone with ADHD myself, having 3 lovely, intelligent, and semi-well-behaved daughters, all with ADHD I have some issues with your statement. I managed to get a PhD, and am now working on a second MS degree. My oldest is gainfully employed as an employment lawyer in a large NYC firm. My younger daughters are both well above average in intelligence. We treat our disorder with appropriate counseling, behavior modification and medication when needed. We are not lacking discipline, nor do we need an elimination diet, which has most assuredly not proven to be effective. Most of the time, your responses are very on target. Today, you missed the boat. Regards, pam Pam Charney pcharney@...<mailto:pcharney%40mac.com> " If all you ever do is all you've ever done, then all you'll ever get is all you ever got " - Anonymous > > > Would this coworker also ask her MD co-worker for free advice?? > > First, I recommend you value your services enough to let her know > the value of your services and that " for free " you're happy to > recommend she do her own leg-work. . . ;-) > > Is she a single, working mother? Is there a father in the picture? > Personally, I've seen a few ADHD children that just needed the > discipline their fathers gave, not a single mom. . . > > Also, has she eliminated food additives/chemicals? > > Just a bit of a rant. . . > > Jan Patenaude > > Diet and ADHD > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > Thanks, > Lori > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I, too think ADHD is misdiagnosed in many cases, when behavior and parental control is a better solution. That has nothing to do with the fact that some people suffer from ADHD that benefit from treatment. Dave ________________________________ From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Jan Patenaude Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:20 AM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Diet and ADHD Thanks Pam. I'm adequately chastised!? ;-) And yes, I may be a bit biased and judgemental!? But, my comments were based on personal experience with children that would have been medicated otherwise! .? I'd hate to see kids medicated when the REAL solution was discipline in the family. . .? I've known kids diagnosed with ADHD when living with mothers, but ADHD wasn't an issue when they lived with their fathers . . Jan Jan, Once again, I think you've gone a bit too far. Please let's not characterize families who are dealing with ADHD as simply lacking " the discipline their fathers give, not a single mom " . If I were to say that folks dealing with IBS, which you will so readily state needs not discipline but a special diet and lab tests, " these folks need discipline that their fathers give, not a single mom " , I think you'd be rightly outraged. While I usually don't drag my own personal stories into things, I'd say that as someone with ADHD myself, having 3 lovely, intelligent, and semi-well-behaved daughters, all with ADHD I have some issues with your statement. I managed to get a PhD, and am now working on a second MS degree. My oldest is gainfully employed as an employment lawyer in a large NYC firm. My younger daughters are both well above average in intelligence. We treat our disorder with appropriate counseling, behavior modification and medication when needed. We are not lacking discipline, nor do we need an elimination diet, which has most assuredly not proven to be effective. Most of the time, your responses are very on target. Today, you missed the boat. Regards, pam Pam Charney pcharney@...<mailto:pcharney%40mac.com> " If all you ever do is all you've ever done, then all you'll ever get is all you ever got " - Anonymous > > > Would this coworker also ask her MD co-worker for free advice?? > > First, I recommend you value your services enough to let her know > the value of your services and that " for free " you're happy to > recommend she do her own leg-work. . . ;-) > > Is she a single, working mother? Is there a father in the picture? > Personally, I've seen a few ADHD children that just needed the > discipline their fathers gave, not a single mom. . . > > Also, has she eliminated food additives/chemicals? > > Just a bit of a rant. . . > > Jan Patenaude > > Diet and ADHD > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > Thanks, > Lori > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I, too think ADHD is misdiagnosed in many cases, when behavior and parental control is a better solution. That has nothing to do with the fact that some people suffer from ADHD that benefit from treatment. Dave ________________________________ From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Jan Patenaude Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:20 AM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Diet and ADHD Thanks Pam. I'm adequately chastised!? ;-) And yes, I may be a bit biased and judgemental!? But, my comments were based on personal experience with children that would have been medicated otherwise! .? I'd hate to see kids medicated when the REAL solution was discipline in the family. . .? I've known kids diagnosed with ADHD when living with mothers, but ADHD wasn't an issue when they lived with their fathers . . Jan Jan, Once again, I think you've gone a bit too far. Please let's not characterize families who are dealing with ADHD as simply lacking " the discipline their fathers give, not a single mom " . If I were to say that folks dealing with IBS, which you will so readily state needs not discipline but a special diet and lab tests, " these folks need discipline that their fathers give, not a single mom " , I think you'd be rightly outraged. While I usually don't drag my own personal stories into things, I'd say that as someone with ADHD myself, having 3 lovely, intelligent, and semi-well-behaved daughters, all with ADHD I have some issues with your statement. I managed to get a PhD, and am now working on a second MS degree. My oldest is gainfully employed as an employment lawyer in a large NYC firm. My younger daughters are both well above average in intelligence. We treat our disorder with appropriate counseling, behavior modification and medication when needed. We are not lacking discipline, nor do we need an elimination diet, which has most assuredly not proven to be effective. Most of the time, your responses are very on target. Today, you missed the boat. Regards, pam Pam Charney pcharney@...<mailto:pcharney%40mac.com> " If all you ever do is all you've ever done, then all you'll ever get is all you ever got " - Anonymous > > > Would this coworker also ask her MD co-worker for free advice?? > > First, I recommend you value your services enough to let her know > the value of your services and that " for free " you're happy to > recommend she do her own leg-work. . . ;-) > > Is she a single, working mother? Is there a father in the picture? > Personally, I've seen a few ADHD children that just needed the > discipline their fathers gave, not a single mom. . . > > Also, has she eliminated food additives/chemicals? > > Just a bit of a rant. . . > > Jan Patenaude > > Diet and ADHD > > I was approached by a co-worker requesting information for her 4 1/2 > year old son. Beyond the traditional " healthy eating " suggestions, > does anyone care to share information they have found to be > effective? This is definitely unfamiliar territory for me! > Thanks, > Lori > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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