Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Wow this was a great post. I guess that it is so much easier for me to grasp on to when I say IE. It sounds like a marketing ploy doesn't it. I just never thought about it in the terms that you are speaking about but I totally agree with you. I have made it into another thing that I do. I guess giving it more significance than it truly deserves. I remember when I lost 80 pounds and everyone is like you are so different, and I remember saying that I am happier blah, blah, blah. But you know what deep down inside I was thinking so what did these people think of me before, I mean I am still who I am just smaller--when you think about it that is the only thing that changed and people's perception of me. It made me very mad after a while and some people I decided that having them a part of my life was not a good thing. I also remember making fun of those informercials where everyone starts crying because of their transformation, it became a bit much, you can not get through an informercial without "Crying Suzie". I haven't been in the gym all week. Partially because I am recuperating from being sick but mostly because I wanted to go outside because the weather was so nice and I must admit I felt guilty doing this. I felt that I should be in the gym on the elliptical machine truly working out. One of the woman at the job said you didn't go to the gym. I said no I wanted to go outside and take a long walk which is what I did. I don't want to be couped up in the gym. I started taking tennis lessons, I want to be outside. I truly do prefer this than the gym. I am not sure if I will go back inside this summer unless it rains. I do feel guilty doing this I am not going to lie about this, but I also know that for the 2nd session of the tennis I am going to sign up for 2 sessions a week I really like it and find it more fun than being inside. Before the adult class starts the kids are there from 3-6 and they are just running all over the place just chasing the ball and having a good time. They are not concerned about losing weight, being a particular size, or spot-reducing. They are just loving life. Yeah and when it was our turn I was just running after the ball enjoying it, maybe not to the extent of them or for as long, I was tired lol!! The whole family goes to the park Sat. morning for a fitness walk, but I just like the fact that the family is together and we get to talk and goof around--well my 2 DD's, dh is usally speeding across the track! I feel wonderful doing this and the park is so beautiful and I don't need a Polar monitor to find out if I am really working out! I am just starting to feel bored with being in the gym all the time. The things that I can do to help me with the tennis I really can do it in the comforts of my home for 20-30 minutes, I was even feeling guilty about not "working out for 45 - 60 minutes". It is crazy.--Gym Prison! I am going to buy a nice work outfit for me to wear for work in my size know that fit-not something that I will fit into by a certain time period. I want to look good know and feel confident in my body. I do need to lose 30 pounds there is no doubt about that but I do believe that I can do it normally not through a particular diet. I do know my tendencies--it is a challenge but as you say we are all a work in progress. >> Hey all,> > I have been lurking for a little while now, keeping up on the > threads, and I've been noticing something a little disturbing going > on. I'm only pointing it out to help you all further yourselves on > the path to intuitive eating. Notice how I don't capitalize it...that > would be like capitalizing the word 'breathing' or 'walking' or other > natural human things...in other words, capitalizing intuitive eating > would be making it into something it is not: a formal plan. Anyways, > I just want to help by pointing this out; if you don't feel it > applies to you, that's fine as well; I just know that food issues > come shrouded in layers and layers of deception, and we deceive > ourselves as much as we are deceived by the media, and...well, > sometimes reality checks or just stopping to think help.> > Anyway, I've been noticing people referring to eating intuitively > as 'IE', using words such as 'the plan' and 'stick to it' and 'rebel' > all in regards to intuitive eating. I would urge you to take a step > back and see if you are really not turning intuitive eating into > another diet? > We're all aware that we have the capability of doing this, and some > of us have realized that we've been doing it and stopped ourselves, > only to slowly settle into the dieting pattern once more. What > concerns me overall is the fact that the reason most people are drawn > to intuitive eating is to lose weight. There's a lot of self hatred > going on in our society nowadays, and the people I've seen on the > boards seem releived that they are able to allow themselves > food...but they still haven't completely broken free from the prison. > > What's the prison? It's REALLY hard to see. We're all in it right > now. We're like fish who don't know that we are wet; it is like the > water around us. It's a body image/dieting prison; we are constantly > fed messages from the media and from people around us that we are not > good enough because of our bodies. We are fed the message that the > ultimate nobility is the pursuit of weight loss; that those who are > overweight are weak willed, and those who are thin are worthy of our > admiration. Almost EVERY SINGLE magazine I've seen on grocer stands > nowadays are full of stories of people who have turned their lives > around...by losing weight. 'Anne Marie lost 45 pounds, and is happy > for the first time in her life!' Oprah hosts shows where she > interviews people who have lost weight, and the story is always the > same...they are so much happier, they have so much more confidance, > and have finally started living their lives. That's the message we > receive. It's deceptive. Losing weight didn't make any of their lives > better. Perhaps they started to live, trully live, and the weight > came off as a result? I don't know, I'm not them, but all I can say > is it is NOT ABOUT THE WEIGHT and it is most certainly NOT ABOUT THE > FOOD. > > Why is it so overwhelmingly like this in society? I think it's to > sell stuff, personally. I mean, the dieting industry is a multi > million dollar industry, and as long as we keep people hating > themselves, we can keep making money off of them. Self hatred is a > prison, and we can continue deceiving the poor prisoners with > false 'keys' to freedom (like weight loss...a tighter tummy...thinner > thighs...whatever), because they want freedom, but they don't know > how to get it. It's disgusting, and it's ridiculous. It's not their > fault, either. But they don't have to stay imprisoned. > > I was in a health club the other day, and I stopped and took a look > around me. All I saw were people scurrying on treadmills and hampster > wheels and stairmasters, faster and faster, but not getting anywhere. > Running and scurrying upwards and outwards to where they thought > freedom was. I closed my eyes and imagined myself rising above, > above, above all the madness...above the Secret mannequins, > above supermodels and weight loss reality television, above diet > products and light n fit yogurts and 100 calorie packs and...above > the need to shackle myself to some ungraspable image > of 'perfection'...when I opened my eyes, I got off my elliptical > trainer and went outside for a walk instead. It was wonderful. > > I'm not there yet, guys. I'm just sad. That's all. I don't want to be > a part of this...the media, the diet books...I don't want to be a > part of it. Intuitive eating is the only answer...but not the kind > of 'intuition' that requires you to feel guilty if you're not > perfectly interpreting the signals within yourself you've been > ignoring for so long. Guilt has no place in intuitive eating. Neither > does the intoxicating dream of a lighter teenager body. Self > acceptance. *sigh*. I wish I had it...I'm a work in progress. > > Just thought I'd point that out. > Basically, what I mean to say is this:> Don't feel angry if you eat two bites and you think you're full...eat > the whole thing if you want to. It's okay. Or, challange why you want > to eat the whole thing...but don't secretly hope you're going > to 'come out on top' by not eating it. > > I don't know, sorry for taking so long to make my point. I hope this > helps somebody. > > -Me> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Thank you for the sharing of your observations, I think it took some guts for you. I see what you are saying and this time around I am trying very hard to not get caught up in making the IE approach into a non-diet-diet. I the past this is what I have done and I ended up rebelling against my non-diet-diet rules and amazingly a huge binge would occur. This time I am inflicting no rules, I try to listen to my body, I try to eat what my body is asking for, I try to listen to my hunger and full signals, I try to ignore the shoulds and should nots, I try... It is working so far, I feel free, I am having moments where my tries are not successful but I remind myself that that is all they are...moments and the next minute in my life is a new moment with a new outcome. My pants are getting looser (I will not weigh myself as the numbers control my mood/eating too much) and I have a bit of a worry that I will get caught up in the success of my pants being looser and try to speed it up even more by imposing rules. I am aware of my tendency to do this thought so I am trying to keep it in check. Thank you again for the reminders and reinforcements. > > Hey all, > > I have been lurking for a little while now, keeping up on the > threads, and I've been noticing something a little disturbing going > on. I'm only pointing it out to help you all further yourselves on > the path to intuitive eating. Notice how I don't capitalize it...that > would be like capitalizing the word 'breathing' or 'walking' or other > natural human things...in other words, capitalizing intuitive eating > would be making it into something it is not: a formal plan. Anyways, > I just want to help by pointing this out; if you don't feel it > applies to you, that's fine as well; I just know that food issues > come shrouded in layers and layers of deception, and we deceive > ourselves as much as we are deceived by the media, and...well, > sometimes reality checks or just stopping to think help. > > Anyway, I've been noticing people referring to eating intuitively > as 'IE', using words such as 'the plan' and 'stick to it' and 'rebel' > all in regards to intuitive eating. I would urge you to take a step > back and see if you are really not turning intuitive eating into > another diet? > We're all aware that we have the capability of doing this, and some > of us have realized that we've been doing it and stopped ourselves, > only to slowly settle into the dieting pattern once more. What > concerns me overall is the fact that the reason most people are drawn > to intuitive eating is to lose weight. There's a lot of self hatred > going on in our society nowadays, and the people I've seen on the > boards seem believed that they are able to allow themselves > food...but they still haven't completely broken free from the prison. > > What's the prison? It's REALLY hard to see. We're all in it right > now. We're like fish who don't know that we are wet; it is like the > water around us. It's a body image/dieting prison; we are constantly > fed messages from the media and from people around us that we are not > good enough because of our bodies. We are fed the message that the > ultimate nobility is the pursuit of weight loss; that those who are > overweight are weak willed, and those who are thin are worthy of our > admiration. Almost EVERY SINGLE magazine I've seen on grocer stands > nowadays are full of stories of people who have turned their lives > around...by losing weight. 'Anne Marie lost 45 pounds, and is happy > for the first time in her life!' Oprah hosts shows where she > interviews people who have lost weight, and the story is always the > same...they are so much happier, they have so much more confidence, > and have finally started living their lives. That's the message we > receive. It's deceptive. Losing weight didn't make any of their lives > better. Perhaps they started to live, truly live, and the weight > came off as a result? I don't know, I'm not them, but all I can say > is it is NOT ABOUT THE WEIGHT and it is most certainly NOT ABOUT THE > FOOD. > > Why is it so overwhelmingly like this in society? I think it's to > sell stuff, personally. I mean, the dieting industry is a multi > million dollar industry, and as long as we keep people hating > themselves, we can keep making money off of them. Self hatred is a > prison, and we can continue deceiving the poor prisoners with > false 'keys' to freedom (like weight loss...a tighter tummy...thinner > thighs...whatever), because they want freedom, but they don't know > how to get it. It's disgusting, and it's ridiculous. It's not their > fault, either. But they don't have to stay imprisoned. > > I was in a health club the other day, and I stopped and took a look > around me. All I saw were people scurrying on treadmills and hamster > wheels and stairmasters, faster and faster, but not getting anywhere. > Running and scurrying upwards and outwards to where they thought > freedom was. I closed my eyes and imagined myself rising above, > above, above all the madness...above the Secret mannequins, > above supermodels and weight loss reality television, above diet > products and light n fit yogurts and 100 calorie packs and...above > the need to shackle myself to some ungraspable image > of 'perfection'...when I opened my eyes, I got off my elliptical > trainer and went outside for a walk instead. It was wonderful. > > I'm not there yet, guys. I'm just sad. That's all. I don't want to be > a part of this...the media, the diet books...I don't want to be a > part of it. Intuitive eating is the only answer...but not the kind > of 'intuition' that requires you to feel guilty if you're not > perfectly interpreting the signals within yourself you've been > ignoring for so long. Guilt has no place in intuitive eating. Neither > does the intoxicating dream of a lighter teenager body. Self > acceptance. *sigh*. I wish I had it...I'm a work in progress. > > Just thought I'd point that out. > Basically, what I mean to say is this: > Don't feel angry if you eat two bites and you think you're full...eat > the whole thing if you want to. It's okay. Or, challenge why you want > to eat the whole thing...but don't secretly hope you're going > to 'come out on top' by not eating it. > > I don't know, sorry for taking so long to make my point. I hope this > helps somebody. > > -Me > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Thank you for the sharing of your observations, I think it took some guts for you. I see what you are saying and this time around I am trying very hard to not get caught up in making the IE approach into a non-diet-diet. I the past this is what I have done and I ended up rebelling against my non-diet-diet rules and amazingly a huge binge would occur. This time I am inflicting no rules, I try to listen to my body, I try to eat what my body is asking for, I try to listen to my hunger and full signals, I try to ignore the shoulds and should nots, I try... It is working so far, I feel free, I am having moments where my tries are not successful but I remind myself that that is all they are...moments and the next minute in my life is a new moment with a new outcome. My pants are getting looser (I will not weigh myself as the numbers control my mood/eating too much) and I have a bit of a worry that I will get caught up in the success of my pants being looser and try to speed it up even more by imposing rules. I am aware of my tendency to do this thought so I am trying to keep it in check. Thank you again for the reminders and reinforcements. > > Hey all, > > I have been lurking for a little while now, keeping up on the > threads, and I've been noticing something a little disturbing going > on. I'm only pointing it out to help you all further yourselves on > the path to intuitive eating. Notice how I don't capitalize it...that > would be like capitalizing the word 'breathing' or 'walking' or other > natural human things...in other words, capitalizing intuitive eating > would be making it into something it is not: a formal plan. Anyways, > I just want to help by pointing this out; if you don't feel it > applies to you, that's fine as well; I just know that food issues > come shrouded in layers and layers of deception, and we deceive > ourselves as much as we are deceived by the media, and...well, > sometimes reality checks or just stopping to think help. > > Anyway, I've been noticing people referring to eating intuitively > as 'IE', using words such as 'the plan' and 'stick to it' and 'rebel' > all in regards to intuitive eating. I would urge you to take a step > back and see if you are really not turning intuitive eating into > another diet? > We're all aware that we have the capability of doing this, and some > of us have realized that we've been doing it and stopped ourselves, > only to slowly settle into the dieting pattern once more. What > concerns me overall is the fact that the reason most people are drawn > to intuitive eating is to lose weight. There's a lot of self hatred > going on in our society nowadays, and the people I've seen on the > boards seem believed that they are able to allow themselves > food...but they still haven't completely broken free from the prison. > > What's the prison? It's REALLY hard to see. We're all in it right > now. We're like fish who don't know that we are wet; it is like the > water around us. It's a body image/dieting prison; we are constantly > fed messages from the media and from people around us that we are not > good enough because of our bodies. We are fed the message that the > ultimate nobility is the pursuit of weight loss; that those who are > overweight are weak willed, and those who are thin are worthy of our > admiration. Almost EVERY SINGLE magazine I've seen on grocer stands > nowadays are full of stories of people who have turned their lives > around...by losing weight. 'Anne Marie lost 45 pounds, and is happy > for the first time in her life!' Oprah hosts shows where she > interviews people who have lost weight, and the story is always the > same...they are so much happier, they have so much more confidence, > and have finally started living their lives. That's the message we > receive. It's deceptive. Losing weight didn't make any of their lives > better. Perhaps they started to live, truly live, and the weight > came off as a result? I don't know, I'm not them, but all I can say > is it is NOT ABOUT THE WEIGHT and it is most certainly NOT ABOUT THE > FOOD. > > Why is it so overwhelmingly like this in society? I think it's to > sell stuff, personally. I mean, the dieting industry is a multi > million dollar industry, and as long as we keep people hating > themselves, we can keep making money off of them. Self hatred is a > prison, and we can continue deceiving the poor prisoners with > false 'keys' to freedom (like weight loss...a tighter tummy...thinner > thighs...whatever), because they want freedom, but they don't know > how to get it. It's disgusting, and it's ridiculous. It's not their > fault, either. But they don't have to stay imprisoned. > > I was in a health club the other day, and I stopped and took a look > around me. All I saw were people scurrying on treadmills and hamster > wheels and stairmasters, faster and faster, but not getting anywhere. > Running and scurrying upwards and outwards to where they thought > freedom was. I closed my eyes and imagined myself rising above, > above, above all the madness...above the Secret mannequins, > above supermodels and weight loss reality television, above diet > products and light n fit yogurts and 100 calorie packs and...above > the need to shackle myself to some ungraspable image > of 'perfection'...when I opened my eyes, I got off my elliptical > trainer and went outside for a walk instead. It was wonderful. > > I'm not there yet, guys. I'm just sad. That's all. I don't want to be > a part of this...the media, the diet books...I don't want to be a > part of it. Intuitive eating is the only answer...but not the kind > of 'intuition' that requires you to feel guilty if you're not > perfectly interpreting the signals within yourself you've been > ignoring for so long. Guilt has no place in intuitive eating. Neither > does the intoxicating dream of a lighter teenager body. Self > acceptance. *sigh*. I wish I had it...I'm a work in progress. > > Just thought I'd point that out. > Basically, what I mean to say is this: > Don't feel angry if you eat two bites and you think you're full...eat > the whole thing if you want to. It's okay. Or, challenge why you want > to eat the whole thing...but don't secretly hope you're going > to 'come out on top' by not eating it. > > I don't know, sorry for taking so long to make my point. I hope this > helps somebody. > > -Me > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Thank you for the sharing of your observations, I think it took some guts for you. I see what you are saying and this time around I am trying very hard to not get caught up in making the IE approach into a non-diet-diet. I the past this is what I have done and I ended up rebelling against my non-diet-diet rules and amazingly a huge binge would occur. This time I am inflicting no rules, I try to listen to my body, I try to eat what my body is asking for, I try to listen to my hunger and full signals, I try to ignore the shoulds and should nots, I try... It is working so far, I feel free, I am having moments where my tries are not successful but I remind myself that that is all they are...moments and the next minute in my life is a new moment with a new outcome. My pants are getting looser (I will not weigh myself as the numbers control my mood/eating too much) and I have a bit of a worry that I will get caught up in the success of my pants being looser and try to speed it up even more by imposing rules. I am aware of my tendency to do this thought so I am trying to keep it in check. Thank you again for the reminders and reinforcements. > > Hey all, > > I have been lurking for a little while now, keeping up on the > threads, and I've been noticing something a little disturbing going > on. I'm only pointing it out to help you all further yourselves on > the path to intuitive eating. Notice how I don't capitalize it...that > would be like capitalizing the word 'breathing' or 'walking' or other > natural human things...in other words, capitalizing intuitive eating > would be making it into something it is not: a formal plan. Anyways, > I just want to help by pointing this out; if you don't feel it > applies to you, that's fine as well; I just know that food issues > come shrouded in layers and layers of deception, and we deceive > ourselves as much as we are deceived by the media, and...well, > sometimes reality checks or just stopping to think help. > > Anyway, I've been noticing people referring to eating intuitively > as 'IE', using words such as 'the plan' and 'stick to it' and 'rebel' > all in regards to intuitive eating. I would urge you to take a step > back and see if you are really not turning intuitive eating into > another diet? > We're all aware that we have the capability of doing this, and some > of us have realized that we've been doing it and stopped ourselves, > only to slowly settle into the dieting pattern once more. What > concerns me overall is the fact that the reason most people are drawn > to intuitive eating is to lose weight. There's a lot of self hatred > going on in our society nowadays, and the people I've seen on the > boards seem believed that they are able to allow themselves > food...but they still haven't completely broken free from the prison. > > What's the prison? It's REALLY hard to see. We're all in it right > now. We're like fish who don't know that we are wet; it is like the > water around us. It's a body image/dieting prison; we are constantly > fed messages from the media and from people around us that we are not > good enough because of our bodies. We are fed the message that the > ultimate nobility is the pursuit of weight loss; that those who are > overweight are weak willed, and those who are thin are worthy of our > admiration. Almost EVERY SINGLE magazine I've seen on grocer stands > nowadays are full of stories of people who have turned their lives > around...by losing weight. 'Anne Marie lost 45 pounds, and is happy > for the first time in her life!' Oprah hosts shows where she > interviews people who have lost weight, and the story is always the > same...they are so much happier, they have so much more confidence, > and have finally started living their lives. That's the message we > receive. It's deceptive. Losing weight didn't make any of their lives > better. Perhaps they started to live, truly live, and the weight > came off as a result? I don't know, I'm not them, but all I can say > is it is NOT ABOUT THE WEIGHT and it is most certainly NOT ABOUT THE > FOOD. > > Why is it so overwhelmingly like this in society? I think it's to > sell stuff, personally. I mean, the dieting industry is a multi > million dollar industry, and as long as we keep people hating > themselves, we can keep making money off of them. Self hatred is a > prison, and we can continue deceiving the poor prisoners with > false 'keys' to freedom (like weight loss...a tighter tummy...thinner > thighs...whatever), because they want freedom, but they don't know > how to get it. It's disgusting, and it's ridiculous. It's not their > fault, either. But they don't have to stay imprisoned. > > I was in a health club the other day, and I stopped and took a look > around me. All I saw were people scurrying on treadmills and hamster > wheels and stairmasters, faster and faster, but not getting anywhere. > Running and scurrying upwards and outwards to where they thought > freedom was. I closed my eyes and imagined myself rising above, > above, above all the madness...above the Secret mannequins, > above supermodels and weight loss reality television, above diet > products and light n fit yogurts and 100 calorie packs and...above > the need to shackle myself to some ungraspable image > of 'perfection'...when I opened my eyes, I got off my elliptical > trainer and went outside for a walk instead. It was wonderful. > > I'm not there yet, guys. I'm just sad. That's all. I don't want to be > a part of this...the media, the diet books...I don't want to be a > part of it. Intuitive eating is the only answer...but not the kind > of 'intuition' that requires you to feel guilty if you're not > perfectly interpreting the signals within yourself you've been > ignoring for so long. Guilt has no place in intuitive eating. Neither > does the intoxicating dream of a lighter teenager body. Self > acceptance. *sigh*. I wish I had it...I'm a work in progress. > > Just thought I'd point that out. > Basically, what I mean to say is this: > Don't feel angry if you eat two bites and you think you're full...eat > the whole thing if you want to. It's okay. Or, challenge why you want > to eat the whole thing...but don't secretly hope you're going > to 'come out on top' by not eating it. > > I don't know, sorry for taking so long to make my point. I hope this > helps somebody. > > -Me > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Leah, That is a great way of putting the whole scale syndrome into perspective. I never thought about it that way. I definitely don't want to start imposing any rules on myself anymore -- and I think (you're right) I might start doing that to myself if I continue to weigh myself. I'm not by any means a daily weigher, but I do check it every Saturday -- which, I guess you could say is a diet-minded thing to do. So, I think I'm going to ditch the scale for several months. Thanks for making me aware!! > > > > Hey all, > > > > I have been lurking for a little while now, keeping up on the > > threads, and I've been noticing something a little disturbing going > > on. I'm only pointing it out to help you all further yourselves on > > the path to intuitive eating. Notice how I don't capitalize > it...that > > would be like capitalizing the word 'breathing' or 'walking' or > other > > natural human things...in other words, capitalizing intuitive > eating > > would be making it into something it is not: a formal plan. > Anyways, > > I just want to help by pointing this out; if you don't feel it > > applies to you, that's fine as well; I just know that food issues > > come shrouded in layers and layers of deception, and we deceive > > ourselves as much as we are deceived by the media, and...well, > > sometimes reality checks or just stopping to think help. > > > > Anyway, I've been noticing people referring to eating intuitively > > as 'IE', using words such as 'the plan' and 'stick to it' > and 'rebel' > > all in regards to intuitive eating. I would urge you to take a step > > back and see if you are really not turning intuitive eating into > > another diet? > > We're all aware that we have the capability of doing this, and some > > of us have realized that we've been doing it and stopped ourselves, > > only to slowly settle into the dieting pattern once more. What > > concerns me overall is the fact that the reason most people are > drawn > > to intuitive eating is to lose weight. There's a lot of self hatred > > going on in our society nowadays, and the people I've seen on the > > boards seem believed that they are able to allow themselves > > food...but they still haven't completely broken free from the > prison. > > > > What's the prison? It's REALLY hard to see. We're all in it right > > now. We're like fish who don't know that we are wet; it is like the > > water around us. It's a body image/dieting prison; we are > constantly > > fed messages from the media and from people around us that we are > not > > good enough because of our bodies. We are fed the message that the > > ultimate nobility is the pursuit of weight loss; that those who are > > overweight are weak willed, and those who are thin are worthy of > our > > admiration. Almost EVERY SINGLE magazine I've seen on grocer stands > > nowadays are full of stories of people who have turned their lives > > around...by losing weight. 'Anne Marie lost 45 pounds, and is happy > > for the first time in her life!' Oprah hosts shows where she > > interviews people who have lost weight, and the story is always the > > same...they are so much happier, they have so much more confidence, > > and have finally started living their lives. That's the message we > > receive. It's deceptive. Losing weight didn't make any of their > lives > > better. Perhaps they started to live, truly live, and the weight > > came off as a result? I don't know, I'm not them, but all I can say > > is it is NOT ABOUT THE WEIGHT and it is most certainly NOT ABOUT > THE > > FOOD. > > > > Why is it so overwhelmingly like this in society? I think it's to > > sell stuff, personally. I mean, the dieting industry is a multi > > million dollar industry, and as long as we keep people hating > > themselves, we can keep making money off of them. Self hatred is a > > prison, and we can continue deceiving the poor prisoners with > > false 'keys' to freedom (like weight loss...a tighter > tummy...thinner > > thighs...whatever), because they want freedom, but they don't know > > how to get it. It's disgusting, and it's ridiculous. It's not their > > fault, either. But they don't have to stay imprisoned. > > > > I was in a health club the other day, and I stopped and took a look > > around me. All I saw were people scurrying on treadmills and > hamster > > wheels and stairmasters, faster and faster, but not getting > anywhere. > > Running and scurrying upwards and outwards to where they thought > > freedom was. I closed my eyes and imagined myself rising above, > > above, above all the madness...above the Secret > mannequins, > > above supermodels and weight loss reality television, above diet > > products and light n fit yogurts and 100 calorie packs and...above > > the need to shackle myself to some ungraspable image > > of 'perfection'...when I opened my eyes, I got off my elliptical > > trainer and went outside for a walk instead. It was wonderful. > > > > I'm not there yet, guys. I'm just sad. That's all. I don't want to > be > > a part of this...the media, the diet books...I don't want to be a > > part of it. Intuitive eating is the only answer...but not the kind > > of 'intuition' that requires you to feel guilty if you're not > > perfectly interpreting the signals within yourself you've been > > ignoring for so long. Guilt has no place in intuitive eating. > Neither > > does the intoxicating dream of a lighter teenager body. Self > > acceptance. *sigh*. I wish I had it...I'm a work in progress. > > > > Just thought I'd point that out. > > Basically, what I mean to say is this: > > Don't feel angry if you eat two bites and you think you're > full...eat > > the whole thing if you want to. It's okay. Or, challenge why you > want > > to eat the whole thing...but don't secretly hope you're going > > to 'come out on top' by not eating it. > > > > I don't know, sorry for taking so long to make my point. I hope > this > > helps somebody. > > > > -Me > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Leah, That is a great way of putting the whole scale syndrome into perspective. I never thought about it that way. I definitely don't want to start imposing any rules on myself anymore -- and I think (you're right) I might start doing that to myself if I continue to weigh myself. I'm not by any means a daily weigher, but I do check it every Saturday -- which, I guess you could say is a diet-minded thing to do. So, I think I'm going to ditch the scale for several months. Thanks for making me aware!! > > > > Hey all, > > > > I have been lurking for a little while now, keeping up on the > > threads, and I've been noticing something a little disturbing going > > on. I'm only pointing it out to help you all further yourselves on > > the path to intuitive eating. Notice how I don't capitalize > it...that > > would be like capitalizing the word 'breathing' or 'walking' or > other > > natural human things...in other words, capitalizing intuitive > eating > > would be making it into something it is not: a formal plan. > Anyways, > > I just want to help by pointing this out; if you don't feel it > > applies to you, that's fine as well; I just know that food issues > > come shrouded in layers and layers of deception, and we deceive > > ourselves as much as we are deceived by the media, and...well, > > sometimes reality checks or just stopping to think help. > > > > Anyway, I've been noticing people referring to eating intuitively > > as 'IE', using words such as 'the plan' and 'stick to it' > and 'rebel' > > all in regards to intuitive eating. I would urge you to take a step > > back and see if you are really not turning intuitive eating into > > another diet? > > We're all aware that we have the capability of doing this, and some > > of us have realized that we've been doing it and stopped ourselves, > > only to slowly settle into the dieting pattern once more. What > > concerns me overall is the fact that the reason most people are > drawn > > to intuitive eating is to lose weight. There's a lot of self hatred > > going on in our society nowadays, and the people I've seen on the > > boards seem believed that they are able to allow themselves > > food...but they still haven't completely broken free from the > prison. > > > > What's the prison? It's REALLY hard to see. We're all in it right > > now. We're like fish who don't know that we are wet; it is like the > > water around us. It's a body image/dieting prison; we are > constantly > > fed messages from the media and from people around us that we are > not > > good enough because of our bodies. We are fed the message that the > > ultimate nobility is the pursuit of weight loss; that those who are > > overweight are weak willed, and those who are thin are worthy of > our > > admiration. Almost EVERY SINGLE magazine I've seen on grocer stands > > nowadays are full of stories of people who have turned their lives > > around...by losing weight. 'Anne Marie lost 45 pounds, and is happy > > for the first time in her life!' Oprah hosts shows where she > > interviews people who have lost weight, and the story is always the > > same...they are so much happier, they have so much more confidence, > > and have finally started living their lives. That's the message we > > receive. It's deceptive. Losing weight didn't make any of their > lives > > better. Perhaps they started to live, truly live, and the weight > > came off as a result? I don't know, I'm not them, but all I can say > > is it is NOT ABOUT THE WEIGHT and it is most certainly NOT ABOUT > THE > > FOOD. > > > > Why is it so overwhelmingly like this in society? I think it's to > > sell stuff, personally. I mean, the dieting industry is a multi > > million dollar industry, and as long as we keep people hating > > themselves, we can keep making money off of them. Self hatred is a > > prison, and we can continue deceiving the poor prisoners with > > false 'keys' to freedom (like weight loss...a tighter > tummy...thinner > > thighs...whatever), because they want freedom, but they don't know > > how to get it. It's disgusting, and it's ridiculous. It's not their > > fault, either. But they don't have to stay imprisoned. > > > > I was in a health club the other day, and I stopped and took a look > > around me. All I saw were people scurrying on treadmills and > hamster > > wheels and stairmasters, faster and faster, but not getting > anywhere. > > Running and scurrying upwards and outwards to where they thought > > freedom was. I closed my eyes and imagined myself rising above, > > above, above all the madness...above the Secret > mannequins, > > above supermodels and weight loss reality television, above diet > > products and light n fit yogurts and 100 calorie packs and...above > > the need to shackle myself to some ungraspable image > > of 'perfection'...when I opened my eyes, I got off my elliptical > > trainer and went outside for a walk instead. It was wonderful. > > > > I'm not there yet, guys. I'm just sad. That's all. I don't want to > be > > a part of this...the media, the diet books...I don't want to be a > > part of it. Intuitive eating is the only answer...but not the kind > > of 'intuition' that requires you to feel guilty if you're not > > perfectly interpreting the signals within yourself you've been > > ignoring for so long. Guilt has no place in intuitive eating. > Neither > > does the intoxicating dream of a lighter teenager body. Self > > acceptance. *sigh*. I wish I had it...I'm a work in progress. > > > > Just thought I'd point that out. > > Basically, what I mean to say is this: > > Don't feel angry if you eat two bites and you think you're > full...eat > > the whole thing if you want to. It's okay. Or, challenge why you > want > > to eat the whole thing...but don't secretly hope you're going > > to 'come out on top' by not eating it. > > > > I don't know, sorry for taking so long to make my point. I hope > this > > helps somebody. > > > > -Me > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Leah, That is a great way of putting the whole scale syndrome into perspective. I never thought about it that way. I definitely don't want to start imposing any rules on myself anymore -- and I think (you're right) I might start doing that to myself if I continue to weigh myself. I'm not by any means a daily weigher, but I do check it every Saturday -- which, I guess you could say is a diet-minded thing to do. So, I think I'm going to ditch the scale for several months. Thanks for making me aware!! > > > > Hey all, > > > > I have been lurking for a little while now, keeping up on the > > threads, and I've been noticing something a little disturbing going > > on. I'm only pointing it out to help you all further yourselves on > > the path to intuitive eating. Notice how I don't capitalize > it...that > > would be like capitalizing the word 'breathing' or 'walking' or > other > > natural human things...in other words, capitalizing intuitive > eating > > would be making it into something it is not: a formal plan. > Anyways, > > I just want to help by pointing this out; if you don't feel it > > applies to you, that's fine as well; I just know that food issues > > come shrouded in layers and layers of deception, and we deceive > > ourselves as much as we are deceived by the media, and...well, > > sometimes reality checks or just stopping to think help. > > > > Anyway, I've been noticing people referring to eating intuitively > > as 'IE', using words such as 'the plan' and 'stick to it' > and 'rebel' > > all in regards to intuitive eating. I would urge you to take a step > > back and see if you are really not turning intuitive eating into > > another diet? > > We're all aware that we have the capability of doing this, and some > > of us have realized that we've been doing it and stopped ourselves, > > only to slowly settle into the dieting pattern once more. What > > concerns me overall is the fact that the reason most people are > drawn > > to intuitive eating is to lose weight. There's a lot of self hatred > > going on in our society nowadays, and the people I've seen on the > > boards seem believed that they are able to allow themselves > > food...but they still haven't completely broken free from the > prison. > > > > What's the prison? It's REALLY hard to see. We're all in it right > > now. We're like fish who don't know that we are wet; it is like the > > water around us. It's a body image/dieting prison; we are > constantly > > fed messages from the media and from people around us that we are > not > > good enough because of our bodies. We are fed the message that the > > ultimate nobility is the pursuit of weight loss; that those who are > > overweight are weak willed, and those who are thin are worthy of > our > > admiration. Almost EVERY SINGLE magazine I've seen on grocer stands > > nowadays are full of stories of people who have turned their lives > > around...by losing weight. 'Anne Marie lost 45 pounds, and is happy > > for the first time in her life!' Oprah hosts shows where she > > interviews people who have lost weight, and the story is always the > > same...they are so much happier, they have so much more confidence, > > and have finally started living their lives. That's the message we > > receive. It's deceptive. Losing weight didn't make any of their > lives > > better. Perhaps they started to live, truly live, and the weight > > came off as a result? I don't know, I'm not them, but all I can say > > is it is NOT ABOUT THE WEIGHT and it is most certainly NOT ABOUT > THE > > FOOD. > > > > Why is it so overwhelmingly like this in society? I think it's to > > sell stuff, personally. I mean, the dieting industry is a multi > > million dollar industry, and as long as we keep people hating > > themselves, we can keep making money off of them. Self hatred is a > > prison, and we can continue deceiving the poor prisoners with > > false 'keys' to freedom (like weight loss...a tighter > tummy...thinner > > thighs...whatever), because they want freedom, but they don't know > > how to get it. It's disgusting, and it's ridiculous. It's not their > > fault, either. But they don't have to stay imprisoned. > > > > I was in a health club the other day, and I stopped and took a look > > around me. All I saw were people scurrying on treadmills and > hamster > > wheels and stairmasters, faster and faster, but not getting > anywhere. > > Running and scurrying upwards and outwards to where they thought > > freedom was. I closed my eyes and imagined myself rising above, > > above, above all the madness...above the Secret > mannequins, > > above supermodels and weight loss reality television, above diet > > products and light n fit yogurts and 100 calorie packs and...above > > the need to shackle myself to some ungraspable image > > of 'perfection'...when I opened my eyes, I got off my elliptical > > trainer and went outside for a walk instead. It was wonderful. > > > > I'm not there yet, guys. I'm just sad. That's all. I don't want to > be > > a part of this...the media, the diet books...I don't want to be a > > part of it. Intuitive eating is the only answer...but not the kind > > of 'intuition' that requires you to feel guilty if you're not > > perfectly interpreting the signals within yourself you've been > > ignoring for so long. Guilt has no place in intuitive eating. > Neither > > does the intoxicating dream of a lighter teenager body. Self > > acceptance. *sigh*. I wish I had it...I'm a work in progress. > > > > Just thought I'd point that out. > > Basically, what I mean to say is this: > > Don't feel angry if you eat two bites and you think you're > full...eat > > the whole thing if you want to. It's okay. Or, challenge why you > want > > to eat the whole thing...but don't secretly hope you're going > > to 'come out on top' by not eating it. > > > > I don't know, sorry for taking so long to make my point. I hope > this > > helps somebody. > > > > -Me > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 I really liked this... It reminds me that, it doesn't matter how much my husband tries to " push " healthier eating on me... I just have to keep working at what I know works FOR ME... and if he's not liking it, than that's something that's bothering HIM... it doesn't have to be my problem. I know my husband cares... he just wants me to be healthy, and to set a good example for our kids (stuffing my face with chocolate bars and Cokes doesn't exactly set the best example.. ;-P). But, when he's constantly saying, " Forget IE... just eat more fruits and vegetables and less junk food, and exercise more! " .... it really gets to me. I've told him that it undoes what I'm trying to do, because he causes my inner " rebel " to react! I always want to do exactly the opposite of what he " suggests " ... If I do what he is saying, it's like I " m doing it " because he told me to " ... not because *I* wanted to, ya know? Anyway... THank you for your post. That's a great reminder. Jenn <>< > I'm learning that it doesn't matter what anyone else does with food. What DOES matter is that I allow others to have their own voice with food (and their opinions too even though I really don't like some of them) and that means I can have mine too! It's a two way street. I can never learn more about my side of the street if I am always visiting someone else's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 I really liked this... It reminds me that, it doesn't matter how much my husband tries to " push " healthier eating on me... I just have to keep working at what I know works FOR ME... and if he's not liking it, than that's something that's bothering HIM... it doesn't have to be my problem. I know my husband cares... he just wants me to be healthy, and to set a good example for our kids (stuffing my face with chocolate bars and Cokes doesn't exactly set the best example.. ;-P). But, when he's constantly saying, " Forget IE... just eat more fruits and vegetables and less junk food, and exercise more! " .... it really gets to me. I've told him that it undoes what I'm trying to do, because he causes my inner " rebel " to react! I always want to do exactly the opposite of what he " suggests " ... If I do what he is saying, it's like I " m doing it " because he told me to " ... not because *I* wanted to, ya know? Anyway... THank you for your post. That's a great reminder. Jenn <>< > I'm learning that it doesn't matter what anyone else does with food. What DOES matter is that I allow others to have their own voice with food (and their opinions too even though I really don't like some of them) and that means I can have mine too! It's a two way street. I can never learn more about my side of the street if I am always visiting someone else's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 I really liked this... It reminds me that, it doesn't matter how much my husband tries to " push " healthier eating on me... I just have to keep working at what I know works FOR ME... and if he's not liking it, than that's something that's bothering HIM... it doesn't have to be my problem. I know my husband cares... he just wants me to be healthy, and to set a good example for our kids (stuffing my face with chocolate bars and Cokes doesn't exactly set the best example.. ;-P). But, when he's constantly saying, " Forget IE... just eat more fruits and vegetables and less junk food, and exercise more! " .... it really gets to me. I've told him that it undoes what I'm trying to do, because he causes my inner " rebel " to react! I always want to do exactly the opposite of what he " suggests " ... If I do what he is saying, it's like I " m doing it " because he told me to " ... not because *I* wanted to, ya know? Anyway... THank you for your post. That's a great reminder. Jenn <>< > I'm learning that it doesn't matter what anyone else does with food. What DOES matter is that I allow others to have their own voice with food (and their opinions too even though I really don't like some of them) and that means I can have mine too! It's a two way street. I can never learn more about my side of the street if I am always visiting someone else's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 This is a big part of things for me, too! I am not " fat " ... but I'm at the higher end of my weight-range for my height, and I'm not healthy. When I'm at this weight, I have trouble breathing, I get chest pains, my Plantar Fasciitus acts up (sore feet), my joints all ache, and I can't do much with my kids without getting winded. And, I'm not even 30 years old, yet! (will be in December, but...) ;-P When I released my excess 25 (of 30) pounds in 2005, I had sooo much more energy! I had more endurance and strength, I could breathe, I didn't have " heart " issues, and my feet stopped hurting! I could move without getting achey! Also, in my family we have both heart disease and diabetes to worry about... I'm always reminded that, if I don't start taking better care of myself, then I'm going to end up with one of those two things, and I don't wanna go there! I wanna be around for my kids! So, for me, I obsess about the weight, but not so much for the " looks " factor (although, admittedly, I still wanna be thin for looks, too). :-? It's more about getting *healthy*. Jenn <>< when I do talk (on this board and others in the past) about > having to lose weight, I can honestly say that for 90% of that issue it's for HEALTH reasons and not aesthetics or looks. >> My health is actually starting to deteriorate because of these excess 40- 50 pounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 This is a big part of things for me, too! I am not " fat " ... but I'm at the higher end of my weight-range for my height, and I'm not healthy. When I'm at this weight, I have trouble breathing, I get chest pains, my Plantar Fasciitus acts up (sore feet), my joints all ache, and I can't do much with my kids without getting winded. And, I'm not even 30 years old, yet! (will be in December, but...) ;-P When I released my excess 25 (of 30) pounds in 2005, I had sooo much more energy! I had more endurance and strength, I could breathe, I didn't have " heart " issues, and my feet stopped hurting! I could move without getting achey! Also, in my family we have both heart disease and diabetes to worry about... I'm always reminded that, if I don't start taking better care of myself, then I'm going to end up with one of those two things, and I don't wanna go there! I wanna be around for my kids! So, for me, I obsess about the weight, but not so much for the " looks " factor (although, admittedly, I still wanna be thin for looks, too). :-? It's more about getting *healthy*. Jenn <>< when I do talk (on this board and others in the past) about > having to lose weight, I can honestly say that for 90% of that issue it's for HEALTH reasons and not aesthetics or looks. >> My health is actually starting to deteriorate because of these excess 40- 50 pounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 This is a big part of things for me, too! I am not " fat " ... but I'm at the higher end of my weight-range for my height, and I'm not healthy. When I'm at this weight, I have trouble breathing, I get chest pains, my Plantar Fasciitus acts up (sore feet), my joints all ache, and I can't do much with my kids without getting winded. And, I'm not even 30 years old, yet! (will be in December, but...) ;-P When I released my excess 25 (of 30) pounds in 2005, I had sooo much more energy! I had more endurance and strength, I could breathe, I didn't have " heart " issues, and my feet stopped hurting! I could move without getting achey! Also, in my family we have both heart disease and diabetes to worry about... I'm always reminded that, if I don't start taking better care of myself, then I'm going to end up with one of those two things, and I don't wanna go there! I wanna be around for my kids! So, for me, I obsess about the weight, but not so much for the " looks " factor (although, admittedly, I still wanna be thin for looks, too). :-? It's more about getting *healthy*. Jenn <>< when I do talk (on this board and others in the past) about > having to lose weight, I can honestly say that for 90% of that issue it's for HEALTH reasons and not aesthetics or looks. >> My health is actually starting to deteriorate because of these excess 40- 50 pounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 I think if we focus on health then the healthy food will naturally follow. EDA has a motto; Honesty: truthfulness, especially with ourselves Equality: every human being has equal worth, regardless of health, accomplishments, material or social status Accountability: being responsible for our own actions and feelings Love: love and tolerance of ourselves and others Trust: reliance on God as we understand God Humility: the desire to seek and do God's will For me health is a balance of the body, mind and spirit. > So, for me, I obsess about the weight, but not so much for the " looks " > factor (although, admittedly, I still wanna be thin for looks, > too). :-? It's more about getting *healthy*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 Great post! Just this morning I was telling myself that I should really get in some spinning classes at the gym, as opposed to riding my bike outside, because it would be a " better " workout. And yet, the path I ride takes me right past a gym where I see folks on the treadmills and ellipticals, and I alway think how grateful i am to be outside and not cooped up in the gym! I have to ask myself, what's better? Being inside with too-loud music blaring and an instructor screaming over it, telling us what to do? Or being outside on a beautiful day, the wind in my face, riding along the San Francisco bay, surrounded by families and dogs ( and watching the Stanford crew and baseball teams practice,lol!)and actually getting somewhere! My reward for my hard work is a beautiful view of downtown San Francisco, the place we moved to last August; the place we have been wanting to live for years, and we're finally here! The fact is, I've avoided riding my bike for years because it was too scary where we used to live. Now, riding is a pleasure! So, tomorrow morning, instead of heading out to the gym, I'll hop on my bike. Sometime this week, I may ride my bike to the gym for my pilates class. But I probably won't drive there just to ride a stationary bike unless the weather is bad. > Hey all, > > I have been lurking for a little while now, keeping up on the > threads, and I've been noticing something a little disturbing going > on. I'm only pointing it out to help you all further yourselves on > the path to intuitive eating. Notice how I don't capitalize it...that > would be like capitalizing the word 'breathing' or 'walking' or other > natural human things...in other words, capitalizing intuitive eating > would be making it into something it is not: a formal plan. Anyways, > I just want to help by pointing this out; if you don't feel it > applies to you, that's fine as well; I just know that food issues > come shrouded in layers and layers of deception, and we deceive > ourselves as much as we are deceived by the media, and...well, > sometimes reality checks or just stopping to think help. > > Anyway, I've been noticing people referring to eating intuitively > as 'IE', using words such as 'the plan' and 'stick to it' and 'rebel' > all in regards to intuitive eating. I would urge you to take a step > back and see if you are really not turning intuitive eating into > another diet? > We're all aware that we have the capability of doing this, and some > of us have realized that we've been doing it and stopped ourselves, > only to slowly settle into the dieting pattern once more. What > concerns me overall is the fact that the reason most people are drawn > to intuitive eating is to lose weight. There's a lot of self hatred > going on in our society nowadays, and the people I've seen on the > boards seem releived that they are able to allow themselves > food...but they still haven't completely broken free from the prison. > > What's the prison? It's REALLY hard to see. We're all in it right > now. We're like fish who don't know that we are wet; it is like the > water around us. It's a body image/dieting prison; we are constantly > fed messages from the media and from people around us that we are not > good enough because of our bodies. We are fed the message that the > ultimate nobility is the pursuit of weight loss; that those who are > overweight are weak willed, and those who are thin are worthy of our > admiration. Almost EVERY SINGLE magazine I've seen on grocer stands > nowadays are full of stories of people who have turned their lives > around...by losing weight. 'Anne Marie lost 45 pounds, and is happy > for the first time in her life!' Oprah hosts shows where she > interviews people who have lost weight, and the story is always the > same...they are so much happier, they have so much more confidance, > and have finally started living their lives. That's the message we > receive. It's deceptive. Losing weight didn't make any of their lives > better. Perhaps they started to live, trully live, and the weight > came off as a result? I don't know, I'm not them, but all I can say > is it is NOT ABOUT THE WEIGHT and it is most certainly NOT ABOUT THE > FOOD. > > Why is it so overwhelmingly like this in society? I think it's to > sell stuff, personally. I mean, the dieting industry is a multi > million dollar industry, and as long as we keep people hating > themselves, we can keep making money off of them. Self hatred is a > prison, and we can continue deceiving the poor prisoners with > false 'keys' to freedom (like weight loss...a tighter tummy...thinner > thighs...whatever), because they want freedom, but they don't know > how to get it. It's disgusting, and it's ridiculous. It's not their > fault, either. But they don't have to stay imprisoned. > > I was in a health club the other day, and I stopped and took a look > around me. All I saw were people scurrying on treadmills and hampster > wheels and stairmasters, faster and faster, but not getting anywhere. > Running and scurrying upwards and outwards to where they thought > freedom was. I closed my eyes and imagined myself rising above, > above, above all the madness...above the Secret mannequins, > above supermodels and weight loss reality television, above diet > products and light n fit yogurts and 100 calorie packs and...above > the need to shackle myself to some ungraspable image > of 'perfection'...when I opened my eyes, I got off my elliptical > trainer and went outside for a walk instead. It was wonderful. > > I'm not there yet, guys. I'm just sad. That's all. I don't want to be > a part of this...the media, the diet books...I don't want to be a > part of it. Intuitive eating is the only answer...but not the kind > of 'intuition' that requires you to feel guilty if you're not > perfectly interpreting the signals within yourself you've been > ignoring for so long. Guilt has no place in intuitive eating. Neither > does the intoxicating dream of a lighter teenager body. Self > acceptance. *sigh*. I wish I had it...I'm a work in progress. > > Just thought I'd point that out. > Basically, what I mean to say is this: > Don't feel angry if you eat two bites and you think you're full...eat > the whole thing if you want to. It's okay. Or, challange why you want > to eat the whole thing...but don't secretly hope you're going > to 'come out on top' by not eating it. > > I don't know, sorry for taking so long to make my point. I hope this > helps somebody. > > -Me > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 Great post! Just this morning I was telling myself that I should really get in some spinning classes at the gym, as opposed to riding my bike outside, because it would be a " better " workout. And yet, the path I ride takes me right past a gym where I see folks on the treadmills and ellipticals, and I alway think how grateful i am to be outside and not cooped up in the gym! I have to ask myself, what's better? Being inside with too-loud music blaring and an instructor screaming over it, telling us what to do? Or being outside on a beautiful day, the wind in my face, riding along the San Francisco bay, surrounded by families and dogs ( and watching the Stanford crew and baseball teams practice,lol!)and actually getting somewhere! My reward for my hard work is a beautiful view of downtown San Francisco, the place we moved to last August; the place we have been wanting to live for years, and we're finally here! The fact is, I've avoided riding my bike for years because it was too scary where we used to live. Now, riding is a pleasure! So, tomorrow morning, instead of heading out to the gym, I'll hop on my bike. Sometime this week, I may ride my bike to the gym for my pilates class. But I probably won't drive there just to ride a stationary bike unless the weather is bad. > Hey all, > > I have been lurking for a little while now, keeping up on the > threads, and I've been noticing something a little disturbing going > on. I'm only pointing it out to help you all further yourselves on > the path to intuitive eating. Notice how I don't capitalize it...that > would be like capitalizing the word 'breathing' or 'walking' or other > natural human things...in other words, capitalizing intuitive eating > would be making it into something it is not: a formal plan. Anyways, > I just want to help by pointing this out; if you don't feel it > applies to you, that's fine as well; I just know that food issues > come shrouded in layers and layers of deception, and we deceive > ourselves as much as we are deceived by the media, and...well, > sometimes reality checks or just stopping to think help. > > Anyway, I've been noticing people referring to eating intuitively > as 'IE', using words such as 'the plan' and 'stick to it' and 'rebel' > all in regards to intuitive eating. I would urge you to take a step > back and see if you are really not turning intuitive eating into > another diet? > We're all aware that we have the capability of doing this, and some > of us have realized that we've been doing it and stopped ourselves, > only to slowly settle into the dieting pattern once more. What > concerns me overall is the fact that the reason most people are drawn > to intuitive eating is to lose weight. There's a lot of self hatred > going on in our society nowadays, and the people I've seen on the > boards seem releived that they are able to allow themselves > food...but they still haven't completely broken free from the prison. > > What's the prison? It's REALLY hard to see. We're all in it right > now. We're like fish who don't know that we are wet; it is like the > water around us. It's a body image/dieting prison; we are constantly > fed messages from the media and from people around us that we are not > good enough because of our bodies. We are fed the message that the > ultimate nobility is the pursuit of weight loss; that those who are > overweight are weak willed, and those who are thin are worthy of our > admiration. Almost EVERY SINGLE magazine I've seen on grocer stands > nowadays are full of stories of people who have turned their lives > around...by losing weight. 'Anne Marie lost 45 pounds, and is happy > for the first time in her life!' Oprah hosts shows where she > interviews people who have lost weight, and the story is always the > same...they are so much happier, they have so much more confidance, > and have finally started living their lives. That's the message we > receive. It's deceptive. Losing weight didn't make any of their lives > better. Perhaps they started to live, trully live, and the weight > came off as a result? I don't know, I'm not them, but all I can say > is it is NOT ABOUT THE WEIGHT and it is most certainly NOT ABOUT THE > FOOD. > > Why is it so overwhelmingly like this in society? I think it's to > sell stuff, personally. I mean, the dieting industry is a multi > million dollar industry, and as long as we keep people hating > themselves, we can keep making money off of them. Self hatred is a > prison, and we can continue deceiving the poor prisoners with > false 'keys' to freedom (like weight loss...a tighter tummy...thinner > thighs...whatever), because they want freedom, but they don't know > how to get it. It's disgusting, and it's ridiculous. It's not their > fault, either. But they don't have to stay imprisoned. > > I was in a health club the other day, and I stopped and took a look > around me. All I saw were people scurrying on treadmills and hampster > wheels and stairmasters, faster and faster, but not getting anywhere. > Running and scurrying upwards and outwards to where they thought > freedom was. I closed my eyes and imagined myself rising above, > above, above all the madness...above the Secret mannequins, > above supermodels and weight loss reality television, above diet > products and light n fit yogurts and 100 calorie packs and...above > the need to shackle myself to some ungraspable image > of 'perfection'...when I opened my eyes, I got off my elliptical > trainer and went outside for a walk instead. It was wonderful. > > I'm not there yet, guys. I'm just sad. That's all. I don't want to be > a part of this...the media, the diet books...I don't want to be a > part of it. Intuitive eating is the only answer...but not the kind > of 'intuition' that requires you to feel guilty if you're not > perfectly interpreting the signals within yourself you've been > ignoring for so long. Guilt has no place in intuitive eating. Neither > does the intoxicating dream of a lighter teenager body. Self > acceptance. *sigh*. I wish I had it...I'm a work in progress. > > Just thought I'd point that out. > Basically, what I mean to say is this: > Don't feel angry if you eat two bites and you think you're full...eat > the whole thing if you want to. It's okay. Or, challange why you want > to eat the whole thing...but don't secretly hope you're going > to 'come out on top' by not eating it. > > I don't know, sorry for taking so long to make my point. I hope this > helps somebody. > > -Me > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 Great post! Just this morning I was telling myself that I should really get in some spinning classes at the gym, as opposed to riding my bike outside, because it would be a " better " workout. And yet, the path I ride takes me right past a gym where I see folks on the treadmills and ellipticals, and I alway think how grateful i am to be outside and not cooped up in the gym! I have to ask myself, what's better? Being inside with too-loud music blaring and an instructor screaming over it, telling us what to do? Or being outside on a beautiful day, the wind in my face, riding along the San Francisco bay, surrounded by families and dogs ( and watching the Stanford crew and baseball teams practice,lol!)and actually getting somewhere! My reward for my hard work is a beautiful view of downtown San Francisco, the place we moved to last August; the place we have been wanting to live for years, and we're finally here! The fact is, I've avoided riding my bike for years because it was too scary where we used to live. Now, riding is a pleasure! So, tomorrow morning, instead of heading out to the gym, I'll hop on my bike. Sometime this week, I may ride my bike to the gym for my pilates class. But I probably won't drive there just to ride a stationary bike unless the weather is bad. > Hey all, > > I have been lurking for a little while now, keeping up on the > threads, and I've been noticing something a little disturbing going > on. I'm only pointing it out to help you all further yourselves on > the path to intuitive eating. Notice how I don't capitalize it...that > would be like capitalizing the word 'breathing' or 'walking' or other > natural human things...in other words, capitalizing intuitive eating > would be making it into something it is not: a formal plan. Anyways, > I just want to help by pointing this out; if you don't feel it > applies to you, that's fine as well; I just know that food issues > come shrouded in layers and layers of deception, and we deceive > ourselves as much as we are deceived by the media, and...well, > sometimes reality checks or just stopping to think help. > > Anyway, I've been noticing people referring to eating intuitively > as 'IE', using words such as 'the plan' and 'stick to it' and 'rebel' > all in regards to intuitive eating. I would urge you to take a step > back and see if you are really not turning intuitive eating into > another diet? > We're all aware that we have the capability of doing this, and some > of us have realized that we've been doing it and stopped ourselves, > only to slowly settle into the dieting pattern once more. What > concerns me overall is the fact that the reason most people are drawn > to intuitive eating is to lose weight. There's a lot of self hatred > going on in our society nowadays, and the people I've seen on the > boards seem releived that they are able to allow themselves > food...but they still haven't completely broken free from the prison. > > What's the prison? It's REALLY hard to see. We're all in it right > now. We're like fish who don't know that we are wet; it is like the > water around us. It's a body image/dieting prison; we are constantly > fed messages from the media and from people around us that we are not > good enough because of our bodies. We are fed the message that the > ultimate nobility is the pursuit of weight loss; that those who are > overweight are weak willed, and those who are thin are worthy of our > admiration. Almost EVERY SINGLE magazine I've seen on grocer stands > nowadays are full of stories of people who have turned their lives > around...by losing weight. 'Anne Marie lost 45 pounds, and is happy > for the first time in her life!' Oprah hosts shows where she > interviews people who have lost weight, and the story is always the > same...they are so much happier, they have so much more confidance, > and have finally started living their lives. That's the message we > receive. It's deceptive. Losing weight didn't make any of their lives > better. Perhaps they started to live, trully live, and the weight > came off as a result? I don't know, I'm not them, but all I can say > is it is NOT ABOUT THE WEIGHT and it is most certainly NOT ABOUT THE > FOOD. > > Why is it so overwhelmingly like this in society? I think it's to > sell stuff, personally. I mean, the dieting industry is a multi > million dollar industry, and as long as we keep people hating > themselves, we can keep making money off of them. Self hatred is a > prison, and we can continue deceiving the poor prisoners with > false 'keys' to freedom (like weight loss...a tighter tummy...thinner > thighs...whatever), because they want freedom, but they don't know > how to get it. It's disgusting, and it's ridiculous. It's not their > fault, either. But they don't have to stay imprisoned. > > I was in a health club the other day, and I stopped and took a look > around me. All I saw were people scurrying on treadmills and hampster > wheels and stairmasters, faster and faster, but not getting anywhere. > Running and scurrying upwards and outwards to where they thought > freedom was. I closed my eyes and imagined myself rising above, > above, above all the madness...above the Secret mannequins, > above supermodels and weight loss reality television, above diet > products and light n fit yogurts and 100 calorie packs and...above > the need to shackle myself to some ungraspable image > of 'perfection'...when I opened my eyes, I got off my elliptical > trainer and went outside for a walk instead. It was wonderful. > > I'm not there yet, guys. I'm just sad. That's all. I don't want to be > a part of this...the media, the diet books...I don't want to be a > part of it. Intuitive eating is the only answer...but not the kind > of 'intuition' that requires you to feel guilty if you're not > perfectly interpreting the signals within yourself you've been > ignoring for so long. Guilt has no place in intuitive eating. Neither > does the intoxicating dream of a lighter teenager body. Self > acceptance. *sigh*. I wish I had it...I'm a work in progress. > > Just thought I'd point that out. > Basically, what I mean to say is this: > Don't feel angry if you eat two bites and you think you're full...eat > the whole thing if you want to. It's okay. Or, challange why you want > to eat the whole thing...but don't secretly hope you're going > to 'come out on top' by not eating it. > > I don't know, sorry for taking so long to make my point. I hope this > helps somebody. > > -Me > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 > riding along > the San Francisco bay, surrounded by families and dogs ( and watching > the Stanford crew and baseball teams practice,lol!)and actually > getting somewhere! My reward for my hard work is a beautiful view of > downtown San Francisco, Hey there! Where do you live? I live in Belmont, CA and have a (partial) view of the Bay from my balcony. (Between San Mateo and San ) - sounds like we might be neighbors? - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 > riding along > the San Francisco bay, surrounded by families and dogs ( and watching > the Stanford crew and baseball teams practice,lol!)and actually > getting somewhere! My reward for my hard work is a beautiful view of > downtown San Francisco, Hey there! Where do you live? I live in Belmont, CA and have a (partial) view of the Bay from my balcony. (Between San Mateo and San ) - sounds like we might be neighbors? - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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