Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Lise, as far as I know, that exercise is correct. Not keeping 'binge' food around the house sounds too much like diet mentality to me, but with IE, everyone must find what works for them. I have found that I am a 'seefood' type person - if I see the food, I would want to eat it! So when I first started legalizing chocolate I kept it out in a big glass container and dang if I didn't nibble on it all day long. And while this helped me to really get to know how that much chocolate makes my body feel (dull and nearly sick), I did end up putting the container into a cabinet where I KNEW it was, but wasn't as subject to its 'suggestion' ;-) When you try this for yourself, please do post and fill us all in on your reaction(s). Isn't IE more FUN than dieting?!? :) > > I read about the exercise w/ having your legalized food around in bulk and how it loses it's appeal. Does this apply if you are a binge eater too? Another post I read suggested not keeping binge food around the house. How does that fit in w/ IE? > -Lise > > > --------------------------------- > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Lise, as far as I know, that exercise is correct. Not keeping 'binge' food around the house sounds too much like diet mentality to me, but with IE, everyone must find what works for them. I have found that I am a 'seefood' type person - if I see the food, I would want to eat it! So when I first started legalizing chocolate I kept it out in a big glass container and dang if I didn't nibble on it all day long. And while this helped me to really get to know how that much chocolate makes my body feel (dull and nearly sick), I did end up putting the container into a cabinet where I KNEW it was, but wasn't as subject to its 'suggestion' ;-) When you try this for yourself, please do post and fill us all in on your reaction(s). Isn't IE more FUN than dieting?!? :) > > I read about the exercise w/ having your legalized food around in bulk and how it loses it's appeal. Does this apply if you are a binge eater too? Another post I read suggested not keeping binge food around the house. How does that fit in w/ IE? > -Lise > > > --------------------------------- > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Lise, I've seen both approaches work. I think it really is an individual thing and you need to experiment - this applies to binge eaters as well. In fact, I've had clients who kept certain foods out of the house for a long time and then decided they wanted to try to bring them in. After having some trouble, we tried the approach of having a lot of the particular food in the house, so it was always there. For most, it worked. They didn't even eat through a whole package or carton, etc. I have a few foods I don't bring in the house. Most of my prior so called " binge foods " can be in the house with no problem. But these few just don't need to be here. But here's the most important thing to me with this approach - you are not saying that you can't ever have the food - if you want it, go out and get it. Promise yourself you will go get it when you want it so your brain, or subconscious, learns to trust that you will do it. That really helps the anxiety and stress around that food. You'll find a lot of conflicting views on this topic. I just think that IE has no rules, and we learn to trust our bodies to tell us what to do, so the same ideas apply to having certain foods in the house. Go with your instincts, experiment, and know that one approach may work now but you may try another approach later. I hope this clears it up some. Thanks! Gillian Gillian Hood-son, MS, ACSM Healthier Outcomes It's not just about losing weight! Want to eat your favorite foods without gaining weight? Get your copy of our fr*e special report, " 6 Simple Steps to Guilt Free Eating " by visiting http://www.healthieroutcomes.com At 01:31 PM 6/21/2007, you wrote: I read about the exercise w/ having your legalized food around in bulk and how it loses it's appeal. Does this apply if you are a binge eater too? Another post I read suggested not keeping binge food around the house. How does that fit in w/ IE? -Lise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Lise, I've seen both approaches work. I think it really is an individual thing and you need to experiment - this applies to binge eaters as well. In fact, I've had clients who kept certain foods out of the house for a long time and then decided they wanted to try to bring them in. After having some trouble, we tried the approach of having a lot of the particular food in the house, so it was always there. For most, it worked. They didn't even eat through a whole package or carton, etc. I have a few foods I don't bring in the house. Most of my prior so called " binge foods " can be in the house with no problem. But these few just don't need to be here. But here's the most important thing to me with this approach - you are not saying that you can't ever have the food - if you want it, go out and get it. Promise yourself you will go get it when you want it so your brain, or subconscious, learns to trust that you will do it. That really helps the anxiety and stress around that food. You'll find a lot of conflicting views on this topic. I just think that IE has no rules, and we learn to trust our bodies to tell us what to do, so the same ideas apply to having certain foods in the house. Go with your instincts, experiment, and know that one approach may work now but you may try another approach later. I hope this clears it up some. Thanks! Gillian Gillian Hood-son, MS, ACSM Healthier Outcomes It's not just about losing weight! Want to eat your favorite foods without gaining weight? Get your copy of our fr*e special report, " 6 Simple Steps to Guilt Free Eating " by visiting http://www.healthieroutcomes.com At 01:31 PM 6/21/2007, you wrote: I read about the exercise w/ having your legalized food around in bulk and how it loses it's appeal. Does this apply if you are a binge eater too? Another post I read suggested not keeping binge food around the house. How does that fit in w/ IE? -Lise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Lise, I've seen both approaches work. I think it really is an individual thing and you need to experiment - this applies to binge eaters as well. In fact, I've had clients who kept certain foods out of the house for a long time and then decided they wanted to try to bring them in. After having some trouble, we tried the approach of having a lot of the particular food in the house, so it was always there. For most, it worked. They didn't even eat through a whole package or carton, etc. I have a few foods I don't bring in the house. Most of my prior so called " binge foods " can be in the house with no problem. But these few just don't need to be here. But here's the most important thing to me with this approach - you are not saying that you can't ever have the food - if you want it, go out and get it. Promise yourself you will go get it when you want it so your brain, or subconscious, learns to trust that you will do it. That really helps the anxiety and stress around that food. You'll find a lot of conflicting views on this topic. I just think that IE has no rules, and we learn to trust our bodies to tell us what to do, so the same ideas apply to having certain foods in the house. Go with your instincts, experiment, and know that one approach may work now but you may try another approach later. I hope this clears it up some. Thanks! Gillian Gillian Hood-son, MS, ACSM Healthier Outcomes It's not just about losing weight! Want to eat your favorite foods without gaining weight? Get your copy of our fr*e special report, " 6 Simple Steps to Guilt Free Eating " by visiting http://www.healthieroutcomes.com At 01:31 PM 6/21/2007, you wrote: I read about the exercise w/ having your legalized food around in bulk and how it loses it's appeal. Does this apply if you are a binge eater too? Another post I read suggested not keeping binge food around the house. How does that fit in w/ IE? -Lise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 OK, this is complicated. Some people may binge because they feel deprived of the foods they love, and some people binge because they don't want to deal with uncomfortable feelings and possibly the two are connected in some way. ly, I've always felt that bingeing was related to deprivation in general, i.e., not getting my needs met in other ways, such as my need for love and acceptance and the need to give myself permission to experience pleasure in other activities besides eating. My fear here is that some of you who are already feeling a lot of guilt and shame over your eating habits " set yourselves up " by keeping lots of foods around that you turn to when the urge to binge comes on and it makes it easier to succumb to the urge. Now I did this allowing myself to binge thing and it worked to some degree, but I was also working on the emotional stuff at the same time. If I were to keep certain types of foods in the house now, I would overeat them at times or nibble away mindlessly, so that's why I suggested not keeping these foods around. It doesn't mean I can't have them. If I want candy, I go to the candy store and buy 1/4 pound and enjoy it. I don't know that one method works for everyone and sometimes you have to take a risk to try something different. In any event, you learn something about yourself. J. > > I read about the exercise w/ having your legalized food around in bulk and how it loses it's appeal. Does this apply if you are a binge eater too? Another post I read suggested not keeping binge food around the house. How does that fit in w/ IE? > -Lise > > > --------------------------------- > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 [this is an update as well as one 'answer' to the initial question of bulk buying for legalizing] Yesterday I found myself wanting some chocolate. And since I hadn't bought any at the store because I didn't want it (then), I was surprised to find that I wanted it more when I found out that I didn't have any! I didn't begin to eat everything in sight due to frustration or anger (at self for failing to have it on hand), and I even told myself that I could make some chocolate pudding if I really wanted something chocolate. It sounded like too much effort so I ate (and savored too) a scoop of orange sherbet ice cream which ended up satisfying me anyway. What this re-enforced for me was the importance of having something like chocolate ON HAND so that it couldn't end up triggering a binge due to feeling of deprivation. I was happy that I could talk to myself and find out how I felt about there being 'no chocolate', then being able to offer myself a chocolate alternative and lastly being satisfied with another choice. WOW, now that is progress for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 [this is an update as well as one 'answer' to the initial question of bulk buying for legalizing] Yesterday I found myself wanting some chocolate. And since I hadn't bought any at the store because I didn't want it (then), I was surprised to find that I wanted it more when I found out that I didn't have any! I didn't begin to eat everything in sight due to frustration or anger (at self for failing to have it on hand), and I even told myself that I could make some chocolate pudding if I really wanted something chocolate. It sounded like too much effort so I ate (and savored too) a scoop of orange sherbet ice cream which ended up satisfying me anyway. What this re-enforced for me was the importance of having something like chocolate ON HAND so that it couldn't end up triggering a binge due to feeling of deprivation. I was happy that I could talk to myself and find out how I felt about there being 'no chocolate', then being able to offer myself a chocolate alternative and lastly being satisfied with another choice. WOW, now that is progress for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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