Guest guest Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 I would highly recommend the CRP test for a person, especially a diabetic. They will be drawing blood, so what is the matter with having an additional test run on it? It only cost a few dollars more. crp test > My physician tells me the crp test is a test everybody was doing a few > years ago, but she feels it is too " vague " and not worth doing. So, her > recommendation is for me not to have it checked. I am having blood drawn > tomorrow morning and could probably have the crp test put back if I felt > compelled to go against my docs recommendation. Any thoughts on this > would be appreciated. > > Dave > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 I would highly recommend the CRP test for a person, especially a diabetic. They will be drawing blood, so what is the matter with having an additional test run on it? It only cost a few dollars more. crp test > My physician tells me the crp test is a test everybody was doing a few > years ago, but she feels it is too " vague " and not worth doing. So, her > recommendation is for me not to have it checked. I am having blood drawn > tomorrow morning and could probably have the crp test put back if I felt > compelled to go against my docs recommendation. Any thoughts on this > would be appreciated. > > Dave > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 I would highly recommend the CRP test for a person, especially a diabetic. They will be drawing blood, so what is the matter with having an additional test run on it? It only cost a few dollars more. crp test > My physician tells me the crp test is a test everybody was doing a few > years ago, but she feels it is too " vague " and not worth doing. So, her > recommendation is for me not to have it checked. I am having blood drawn > tomorrow morning and could probably have the crp test put back if I felt > compelled to go against my docs recommendation. Any thoughts on this > would be appreciated. > > Dave > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Um, pardon me, what is CRP? Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 CRP is an abbreviation for C-Reactive Protein. It is a measure of inflamation in the heart and blood vessels. It is the best predictor of impending heart attacks. A CRP of 3.0 and lower is good and a reading of 2.0 and lower is great. My CRP runs around5.5 and higher, which is not good, but it is better than it use to be when I had readings of 10 or 12, I forget exactly how high, but you definitely do not want to go there. I have already had three heart attacks, and knowing your CRP can provide a measure of your likelihood to have a heart attack. If it is high, you can take remedial ways to lower it, which I have done. I am still a lot more likely to have another heart attack with my high readings, but I am still working on lowering my CRP even further. Re: crp test > Um, pardon me, what is CRP? > > Bill. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 CRP is an abbreviation for C-Reactive Protein. It is a measure of inflamation in the heart and blood vessels. It is the best predictor of impending heart attacks. A CRP of 3.0 and lower is good and a reading of 2.0 and lower is great. My CRP runs around5.5 and higher, which is not good, but it is better than it use to be when I had readings of 10 or 12, I forget exactly how high, but you definitely do not want to go there. I have already had three heart attacks, and knowing your CRP can provide a measure of your likelihood to have a heart attack. If it is high, you can take remedial ways to lower it, which I have done. I am still a lot more likely to have another heart attack with my high readings, but I am still working on lowering my CRP even further. Re: crp test > Um, pardon me, what is CRP? > > Bill. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 CRP is an abbreviation for C-Reactive Protein. It is a measure of inflamation in the heart and blood vessels. It is the best predictor of impending heart attacks. A CRP of 3.0 and lower is good and a reading of 2.0 and lower is great. My CRP runs around5.5 and higher, which is not good, but it is better than it use to be when I had readings of 10 or 12, I forget exactly how high, but you definitely do not want to go there. I have already had three heart attacks, and knowing your CRP can provide a measure of your likelihood to have a heart attack. If it is high, you can take remedial ways to lower it, which I have done. I am still a lot more likely to have another heart attack with my high readings, but I am still working on lowering my CRP even further. Re: crp test > Um, pardon me, what is CRP? > > Bill. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Harry, Thanks for info on CRP. I will have my doctor do a test for it next time I see him. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Harry, Thanks for info on CRP. I will have my doctor do a test for it next time I see him. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 My dilemna is a matter of politics you could say. I respect my physician and believe she is as current in most areas as the next general physician. So, do I go against her opinion and create an element of mistrust by in essence saying I don't think she knows what she is talking about, or do I accept her recommendation and basically, trust her? Is it possible that this test is not all it's cracked up to be? Bottom line, maybe she's right. Of course, Harry is obviously in favor of this test, but is there anyone who might help support what my doc says, that the crp test is rather vague and not necessarily helpful? Many thanks. Dave crp test > My physician tells me the crp test is a test everybody was doing a few > years ago, but she feels it is too " vague " and not worth doing. So, her > recommendation is for me not to have it checked. I am having blood drawn > tomorrow morning and could probably have the crp test put back if I felt > compelled to go against my docs recommendation. Any thoughts on this > would be appreciated. > > Dave > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 My dilemna is a matter of politics you could say. I respect my physician and believe she is as current in most areas as the next general physician. So, do I go against her opinion and create an element of mistrust by in essence saying I don't think she knows what she is talking about, or do I accept her recommendation and basically, trust her? Is it possible that this test is not all it's cracked up to be? Bottom line, maybe she's right. Of course, Harry is obviously in favor of this test, but is there anyone who might help support what my doc says, that the crp test is rather vague and not necessarily helpful? Many thanks. Dave crp test > My physician tells me the crp test is a test everybody was doing a few > years ago, but she feels it is too " vague " and not worth doing. So, her > recommendation is for me not to have it checked. I am having blood drawn > tomorrow morning and could probably have the crp test put back if I felt > compelled to go against my docs recommendation. Any thoughts on this > would be appreciated. > > Dave > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 My dilemna is a matter of politics you could say. I respect my physician and believe she is as current in most areas as the next general physician. So, do I go against her opinion and create an element of mistrust by in essence saying I don't think she knows what she is talking about, or do I accept her recommendation and basically, trust her? Is it possible that this test is not all it's cracked up to be? Bottom line, maybe she's right. Of course, Harry is obviously in favor of this test, but is there anyone who might help support what my doc says, that the crp test is rather vague and not necessarily helpful? Many thanks. Dave crp test > My physician tells me the crp test is a test everybody was doing a few > years ago, but she feels it is too " vague " and not worth doing. So, her > recommendation is for me not to have it checked. I am having blood drawn > tomorrow morning and could probably have the crp test put back if I felt > compelled to go against my docs recommendation. Any thoughts on this > would be appreciated. > > Dave > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Inflamation inside the blood vessles is an invitation to clots which are an open invitation to the heart attack... Yes, this is very important information....Cy, the Ancient Okie... Re: crp test CRP is an abbreviation for C-Reactive Protein. It is a measure of inflamation in the heart and blood vessels. It is the best predictor of impending heart attacks. A CRP of 3.0 and lower is good and a reading of 2.0 and lower is great. My CRP runs around5.5 and higher, which is not good, but it is better than it use to be when I had readings of 10 or 12, I forget exactly how high, but you definitely do not want to go there. I have already had three heart attacks, and knowing your CRP can provide a measure of your likelihood to have a heart attack. If it is high, you can take remedial ways to lower it, which I have done. I am still a lot more likely to have another heart attack with my high readings, but I am still working on lowering my CRP even further. Re: crp test > Um, pardon me, what is CRP? > > Bill. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Inflamation inside the blood vessles is an invitation to clots which are an open invitation to the heart attack... Yes, this is very important information....Cy, the Ancient Okie... Re: crp test CRP is an abbreviation for C-Reactive Protein. It is a measure of inflamation in the heart and blood vessels. It is the best predictor of impending heart attacks. A CRP of 3.0 and lower is good and a reading of 2.0 and lower is great. My CRP runs around5.5 and higher, which is not good, but it is better than it use to be when I had readings of 10 or 12, I forget exactly how high, but you definitely do not want to go there. I have already had three heart attacks, and knowing your CRP can provide a measure of your likelihood to have a heart attack. If it is high, you can take remedial ways to lower it, which I have done. I am still a lot more likely to have another heart attack with my high readings, but I am still working on lowering my CRP even further. Re: crp test > Um, pardon me, what is CRP? > > Bill. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Inflamation inside the blood vessles is an invitation to clots which are an open invitation to the heart attack... Yes, this is very important information....Cy, the Ancient Okie... Re: crp test CRP is an abbreviation for C-Reactive Protein. It is a measure of inflamation in the heart and blood vessels. It is the best predictor of impending heart attacks. A CRP of 3.0 and lower is good and a reading of 2.0 and lower is great. My CRP runs around5.5 and higher, which is not good, but it is better than it use to be when I had readings of 10 or 12, I forget exactly how high, but you definitely do not want to go there. I have already had three heart attacks, and knowing your CRP can provide a measure of your likelihood to have a heart attack. If it is high, you can take remedial ways to lower it, which I have done. I am still a lot more likely to have another heart attack with my high readings, but I am still working on lowering my CRP even further. Re: crp test > Um, pardon me, what is CRP? > > Bill. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 All you have to do is request your physician add the CRP test to the lab prescription. It doesn't take long to write CRP with a pen and it is the best predictor of an impending heart attack. Besides you can find out just to ease your mind. If you have a CRP results of 2.0 and lower, jump up and down with joy. If it is higher than 3.0, then there are things you can do to lower the reading. If you are a diabetic, it is recommended you know your CRP results. Tell your physician that Dr. Bates said it would be a good idea for you to know, and I highly recommend it. You should also be aware that insulin can cause your CRP to be elevated, but how much is a good question to know the answer to. If your CRP is extremely high, then there are treatment options available to your physician and you to bring it into the normal range. Take your physician a copy of this message, if you like. If you are a diabetic, you are not a normal person, and in my opinion all diabetics need to know. You must not allow yourself to be treated as a non-diabetic. I have several pages of research I can send to you, but the information is readily available by using google. crp test > > > > My physician tells me the crp test is a test everybody was doing a few > > years ago, but she feels it is too " vague " and not worth doing. So, > her > > recommendation is for me not to have it checked. I am having blood > drawn > > tomorrow morning and could probably have the crp test put back if I > felt > > compelled to go against my docs recommendation. Any thoughts on this > > would be appreciated. > > > > Dave > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 All you have to do is request your physician add the CRP test to the lab prescription. It doesn't take long to write CRP with a pen and it is the best predictor of an impending heart attack. Besides you can find out just to ease your mind. If you have a CRP results of 2.0 and lower, jump up and down with joy. If it is higher than 3.0, then there are things you can do to lower the reading. If you are a diabetic, it is recommended you know your CRP results. Tell your physician that Dr. Bates said it would be a good idea for you to know, and I highly recommend it. You should also be aware that insulin can cause your CRP to be elevated, but how much is a good question to know the answer to. If your CRP is extremely high, then there are treatment options available to your physician and you to bring it into the normal range. Take your physician a copy of this message, if you like. If you are a diabetic, you are not a normal person, and in my opinion all diabetics need to know. You must not allow yourself to be treated as a non-diabetic. I have several pages of research I can send to you, but the information is readily available by using google. crp test > > > > My physician tells me the crp test is a test everybody was doing a few > > years ago, but she feels it is too " vague " and not worth doing. So, > her > > recommendation is for me not to have it checked. I am having blood > drawn > > tomorrow morning and could probably have the crp test put back if I > felt > > compelled to go against my docs recommendation. Any thoughts on this > > would be appreciated. > > > > Dave > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 All you have to do is request your physician add the CRP test to the lab prescription. It doesn't take long to write CRP with a pen and it is the best predictor of an impending heart attack. Besides you can find out just to ease your mind. If you have a CRP results of 2.0 and lower, jump up and down with joy. If it is higher than 3.0, then there are things you can do to lower the reading. If you are a diabetic, it is recommended you know your CRP results. Tell your physician that Dr. Bates said it would be a good idea for you to know, and I highly recommend it. You should also be aware that insulin can cause your CRP to be elevated, but how much is a good question to know the answer to. If your CRP is extremely high, then there are treatment options available to your physician and you to bring it into the normal range. Take your physician a copy of this message, if you like. If you are a diabetic, you are not a normal person, and in my opinion all diabetics need to know. You must not allow yourself to be treated as a non-diabetic. I have several pages of research I can send to you, but the information is readily available by using google. crp test > > > > My physician tells me the crp test is a test everybody was doing a few > > years ago, but she feels it is too " vague " and not worth doing. So, > her > > recommendation is for me not to have it checked. I am having blood > drawn > > tomorrow morning and could probably have the crp test put back if I > felt > > compelled to go against my docs recommendation. Any thoughts on this > > would be appreciated. > > > > Dave > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Dave, When it comes to your health, even your doctor is not the sole expert. He can recommend all he wants, but it's YOUR health at stake, not his. It's up to you how you want to manage your health, and if you feel comfortable with one method and he/she another, yes you have a political problem on your hands, but again, do you win brownie points by doing it the doc's way even if it turns out wrong, or do you stick up for yourself if you feel strongly enough to do an alternative to his treatment? The choice is and should be truly yours. One of the problems I see so often is that people are trying to please their doctors, who might be well intentioned but not necessarily accurate in their treatment. After all, doc knows best and we don't want to hurt his feelings. Worse, some people feel docs will make moral judgments on them if they admit to things like drinking or smoking, when in fact the truth sheds more light enabling more accurate treatment for some patients. If it is possible, get a second opinion on whatever matter you question, the doc can't deny you that. If you feel comfortable with a consensus of two doctors even if it's not the treatment you originally set out for, follow that if you wish. But don't just go on one doctor's opinion in order to please him. It's your body you need to please, not the doctor. I'm not trying to give you a lecture here, I just want to help you see the big picture and help you as much as I can. You deserve that. Take care and best of luck to you!! Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Dave, When it comes to your health, even your doctor is not the sole expert. He can recommend all he wants, but it's YOUR health at stake, not his. It's up to you how you want to manage your health, and if you feel comfortable with one method and he/she another, yes you have a political problem on your hands, but again, do you win brownie points by doing it the doc's way even if it turns out wrong, or do you stick up for yourself if you feel strongly enough to do an alternative to his treatment? The choice is and should be truly yours. One of the problems I see so often is that people are trying to please their doctors, who might be well intentioned but not necessarily accurate in their treatment. After all, doc knows best and we don't want to hurt his feelings. Worse, some people feel docs will make moral judgments on them if they admit to things like drinking or smoking, when in fact the truth sheds more light enabling more accurate treatment for some patients. If it is possible, get a second opinion on whatever matter you question, the doc can't deny you that. If you feel comfortable with a consensus of two doctors even if it's not the treatment you originally set out for, follow that if you wish. But don't just go on one doctor's opinion in order to please him. It's your body you need to please, not the doctor. I'm not trying to give you a lecture here, I just want to help you see the big picture and help you as much as I can. You deserve that. Take care and best of luck to you!! Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Dave, When it comes to your health, even your doctor is not the sole expert. He can recommend all he wants, but it's YOUR health at stake, not his. It's up to you how you want to manage your health, and if you feel comfortable with one method and he/she another, yes you have a political problem on your hands, but again, do you win brownie points by doing it the doc's way even if it turns out wrong, or do you stick up for yourself if you feel strongly enough to do an alternative to his treatment? The choice is and should be truly yours. One of the problems I see so often is that people are trying to please their doctors, who might be well intentioned but not necessarily accurate in their treatment. After all, doc knows best and we don't want to hurt his feelings. Worse, some people feel docs will make moral judgments on them if they admit to things like drinking or smoking, when in fact the truth sheds more light enabling more accurate treatment for some patients. If it is possible, get a second opinion on whatever matter you question, the doc can't deny you that. If you feel comfortable with a consensus of two doctors even if it's not the treatment you originally set out for, follow that if you wish. But don't just go on one doctor's opinion in order to please him. It's your body you need to please, not the doctor. I'm not trying to give you a lecture here, I just want to help you see the big picture and help you as much as I can. You deserve that. Take care and best of luck to you!! Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 One of my most notable traits is that I am outspoken. I have to work at keeping my mouth, i.e. my opinion, quiet. I'm not afraid of going against my docs recommendations, and in fact I have won some praise from her her over the years for being so inquisitive . and taking initiative. The problem I want to avoid is to have her begin to write me off as a nuisance and thus become a burden. She would have no lack of patients to fill my place if I were no longer a patient. So, having said all this, I just may request that this test be put back when I go in shortly. Thanks. Dave Re: crp test Dave, When it comes to your health, even your doctor is not the sole expert. He can recommend all he wants, but it's YOUR health at stake, not his. It's up to you how you want to manage your health, and if you feel comfortable with one method and he/she another, yes you have a political problem on your hands, but again, do you win brownie points by doing it the doc's way even if it turns out wrong, or do you stick up for yourself if you feel strongly enough to do an alternative to his treatment? The choice is and should be truly yours. One of the problems I see so often is that people are trying to please their doctors, who might be well intentioned but not necessarily accurate in their treatment. After all, doc knows best and we don't want to hurt his feelings. Worse, some people feel docs will make moral judgments on them if they admit to things like drinking or smoking, when in fact the truth sheds more light enabling more accurate treatment for some patients. If it is possible, get a second opinion on whatever matter you question, the doc can't deny you that. If you feel comfortable with a consensus of two doctors even if it's not the treatment you originally set out for, follow that if you wish. But don't just go on one doctor's opinion in order to please him. It's your body you need to please, not the doctor. I'm not trying to give you a lecture here, I just want to help you see the big picture and help you as much as I can. You deserve that. Take care and best of luck to you!! Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 One of my most notable traits is that I am outspoken. I have to work at keeping my mouth, i.e. my opinion, quiet. I'm not afraid of going against my docs recommendations, and in fact I have won some praise from her her over the years for being so inquisitive . and taking initiative. The problem I want to avoid is to have her begin to write me off as a nuisance and thus become a burden. She would have no lack of patients to fill my place if I were no longer a patient. So, having said all this, I just may request that this test be put back when I go in shortly. Thanks. Dave Re: crp test Dave, When it comes to your health, even your doctor is not the sole expert. He can recommend all he wants, but it's YOUR health at stake, not his. It's up to you how you want to manage your health, and if you feel comfortable with one method and he/she another, yes you have a political problem on your hands, but again, do you win brownie points by doing it the doc's way even if it turns out wrong, or do you stick up for yourself if you feel strongly enough to do an alternative to his treatment? The choice is and should be truly yours. One of the problems I see so often is that people are trying to please their doctors, who might be well intentioned but not necessarily accurate in their treatment. After all, doc knows best and we don't want to hurt his feelings. Worse, some people feel docs will make moral judgments on them if they admit to things like drinking or smoking, when in fact the truth sheds more light enabling more accurate treatment for some patients. If it is possible, get a second opinion on whatever matter you question, the doc can't deny you that. If you feel comfortable with a consensus of two doctors even if it's not the treatment you originally set out for, follow that if you wish. But don't just go on one doctor's opinion in order to please him. It's your body you need to please, not the doctor. I'm not trying to give you a lecture here, I just want to help you see the big picture and help you as much as I can. You deserve that. Take care and best of luck to you!! Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 One of my most notable traits is that I am outspoken. I have to work at keeping my mouth, i.e. my opinion, quiet. I'm not afraid of going against my docs recommendations, and in fact I have won some praise from her her over the years for being so inquisitive . and taking initiative. The problem I want to avoid is to have her begin to write me off as a nuisance and thus become a burden. She would have no lack of patients to fill my place if I were no longer a patient. So, having said all this, I just may request that this test be put back when I go in shortly. Thanks. Dave Re: crp test Dave, When it comes to your health, even your doctor is not the sole expert. He can recommend all he wants, but it's YOUR health at stake, not his. It's up to you how you want to manage your health, and if you feel comfortable with one method and he/she another, yes you have a political problem on your hands, but again, do you win brownie points by doing it the doc's way even if it turns out wrong, or do you stick up for yourself if you feel strongly enough to do an alternative to his treatment? The choice is and should be truly yours. One of the problems I see so often is that people are trying to please their doctors, who might be well intentioned but not necessarily accurate in their treatment. After all, doc knows best and we don't want to hurt his feelings. Worse, some people feel docs will make moral judgments on them if they admit to things like drinking or smoking, when in fact the truth sheds more light enabling more accurate treatment for some patients. If it is possible, get a second opinion on whatever matter you question, the doc can't deny you that. If you feel comfortable with a consensus of two doctors even if it's not the treatment you originally set out for, follow that if you wish. But don't just go on one doctor's opinion in order to please him. It's your body you need to please, not the doctor. I'm not trying to give you a lecture here, I just want to help you see the big picture and help you as much as I can. You deserve that. Take care and best of luck to you!! Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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