Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Marvin, I have kept silent long enough. you are correct in saying noone failed and this was not a test. patience is a virtue . my nurse came yesterday for her weekly visit and I had the report from the doctor saying I was to take the lantus eight. because he would not listen to me. she prefilled my weekly supply of needles of the lantus reluctantly with the seven units in each needle as I requested. but she called the doctor and told them she could not find the paper work. she did not like to follow the order with out it. I cant believe I had to lie to her with the paper work in my housecoat pocket at this very moment to change it to lantus seven at night. but like a kid, a blind kid. I had to resort to this to get my way. I told her I wanted lantus seven and I do my humalog four times a day and make the changes as I see them so what is the difference. . she said she was waiting for the busy doctor to call her back during the day yesterday. well I was counting on her forgetfulness. she was having a bad day yesterday and I was only her second patient and she was frustrated. I will likely catch hell after I am found out. but I cant believe I had to go to such drastic methods to get the lantus reduced by one stinking unit each naught. I trust the shit will hit the fan when I am found out. I failed >> >> >> >> I freely admit that I have failed in her attempts to master >> >> blood >> >> glucose level control. I have failed her in several respects. First > of >> >> all >> >> >> >> I have failed to gain her trust. In this same respect I have failed >> >> to >> >> gain >> >> >> >> the trust of her husband. It has been evident for several weeks to >> >> anyone >> >> who cares to make simple observations. When a person can make simple >> >> experimental recommendations, which are in themselves perfectly safe > for >> >> another to perform, and yet these simple recommendations are never >> >> carried >> >> out is a definite sign that I am not trusted. I failed to convince > >> >> that she is the primary person that all of her helpers, including her >> >> doctor, nurse and husband, should listen to her wishes. They should >> >> accommodate her and not her who accommodate them. I failed to show >> >> how >> >> to >> >> do this. I failed to get to share with her doctors and nurse my >> >> recommendations I have urged her to do. I failed to have her > understand >> >> that doing experiments in a fish bowl, where every one can see what is >> >> happening is the safest way to conduct life experimentation. Keeping > no >> >> secrets amongst all those willing to help is the best way to make sure >> >> that >> >> one will be safe, and I don't think knows this. While I know > >> >> can count, I still failed to have her count a specific number of grams > of >> >> carbs of her own choosing and have her stick to it for at least two > days >> >> in >> >> a row. I failed to convince her importance of this simple procedure. > I >> >> failed to get to believe that she alone is the most important >> >> authority over her body. I am not her authority. Presently, it > appears >> >> that her doctor, nurse and husband are her authorities, not . I >> >> failed >> >> >> >> to demonstrate to that I am truly a master of my blood glucose >> >> control, and maybe the fact of over a year of A1C's being at or below > 5.5 >> >> does not impress her, even though most of my past year and a half >> >> A1C's >> >> were >> >> >> >> 5.3 and lower. I have failed others here, too. Long before Wayne had >> >> the >> >> first amputation several others and I tried to get him to listen to >> >> us, >> >> but >> >> we all failed him, and I am sure we regret that he is no longer with > us. >> >> He >> >> >> >> steadfastly believed that only his doctor was right, and he insisted >> >> on >> >> doing what his doctor recommended and no others. I failed to have him >> >> chart >> >> >> >> his progress or lack of progress where what was happening could >> >> clearly >> >> be >> >> seen by him and all others who cared to look. Apparently, I have > failed >> >> in the same way. By doing this charting the evidence is clearly >> >> visible to all, and any experiments in mastery of blood glucose >> >> control >> >> can >> >> be shown to the diabetic, the doctor, the nurse, the spouse, and any >> >> others >> >> who care to see. Through this method the individual diabetic learns > who >> >> is >> >> the real authority over one's own body, and it usually comes down to >> >> be >> >> the >> >> responsibility of a single individual, and you know who that would be. >> >> It >> >> would be you. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I not only admit that I have failed , but I also admit I am > helpless >> >> to >> >> >> >> make her follow my instructions. When is willing to trust me, I > am >> >> willing to try again and again. Until that time comes I do not see >> >> any >> >> way >> >> I can be of service to her and any further recommendations on my part > are >> >> futile. I do recommend trust the people on this list serve, for >> >> after >> >> >> >> all it is the folks on this list serve and not my doctors who taught >> >> me >> >> mastery of blood glucose level control. So in the future I wish >> >> you >> >> good luck and hopefully you will make good choices. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Marvin, I have kept silent long enough. you are correct in saying noone failed and this was not a test. patience is a virtue . my nurse came yesterday for her weekly visit and I had the report from the doctor saying I was to take the lantus eight. because he would not listen to me. she prefilled my weekly supply of needles of the lantus reluctantly with the seven units in each needle as I requested. but she called the doctor and told them she could not find the paper work. she did not like to follow the order with out it. I cant believe I had to lie to her with the paper work in my housecoat pocket at this very moment to change it to lantus seven at night. but like a kid, a blind kid. I had to resort to this to get my way. I told her I wanted lantus seven and I do my humalog four times a day and make the changes as I see them so what is the difference. . she said she was waiting for the busy doctor to call her back during the day yesterday. well I was counting on her forgetfulness. she was having a bad day yesterday and I was only her second patient and she was frustrated. I will likely catch hell after I am found out. but I cant believe I had to go to such drastic methods to get the lantus reduced by one stinking unit each naught. I trust the shit will hit the fan when I am found out. I failed >> >> >> >> I freely admit that I have failed in her attempts to master >> >> blood >> >> glucose level control. I have failed her in several respects. First > of >> >> all >> >> >> >> I have failed to gain her trust. In this same respect I have failed >> >> to >> >> gain >> >> >> >> the trust of her husband. It has been evident for several weeks to >> >> anyone >> >> who cares to make simple observations. When a person can make simple >> >> experimental recommendations, which are in themselves perfectly safe > for >> >> another to perform, and yet these simple recommendations are never >> >> carried >> >> out is a definite sign that I am not trusted. I failed to convince > >> >> that she is the primary person that all of her helpers, including her >> >> doctor, nurse and husband, should listen to her wishes. They should >> >> accommodate her and not her who accommodate them. I failed to show >> >> how >> >> to >> >> do this. I failed to get to share with her doctors and nurse my >> >> recommendations I have urged her to do. I failed to have her > understand >> >> that doing experiments in a fish bowl, where every one can see what is >> >> happening is the safest way to conduct life experimentation. Keeping > no >> >> secrets amongst all those willing to help is the best way to make sure >> >> that >> >> one will be safe, and I don't think knows this. While I know > >> >> can count, I still failed to have her count a specific number of grams > of >> >> carbs of her own choosing and have her stick to it for at least two > days >> >> in >> >> a row. I failed to convince her importance of this simple procedure. > I >> >> failed to get to believe that she alone is the most important >> >> authority over her body. I am not her authority. Presently, it > appears >> >> that her doctor, nurse and husband are her authorities, not . I >> >> failed >> >> >> >> to demonstrate to that I am truly a master of my blood glucose >> >> control, and maybe the fact of over a year of A1C's being at or below > 5.5 >> >> does not impress her, even though most of my past year and a half >> >> A1C's >> >> were >> >> >> >> 5.3 and lower. I have failed others here, too. Long before Wayne had >> >> the >> >> first amputation several others and I tried to get him to listen to >> >> us, >> >> but >> >> we all failed him, and I am sure we regret that he is no longer with > us. >> >> He >> >> >> >> steadfastly believed that only his doctor was right, and he insisted >> >> on >> >> doing what his doctor recommended and no others. I failed to have him >> >> chart >> >> >> >> his progress or lack of progress where what was happening could >> >> clearly >> >> be >> >> seen by him and all others who cared to look. Apparently, I have > failed >> >> in the same way. By doing this charting the evidence is clearly >> >> visible to all, and any experiments in mastery of blood glucose >> >> control >> >> can >> >> be shown to the diabetic, the doctor, the nurse, the spouse, and any >> >> others >> >> who care to see. Through this method the individual diabetic learns > who >> >> is >> >> the real authority over one's own body, and it usually comes down to >> >> be >> >> the >> >> responsibility of a single individual, and you know who that would be. >> >> It >> >> would be you. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I not only admit that I have failed , but I also admit I am > helpless >> >> to >> >> >> >> make her follow my instructions. When is willing to trust me, I > am >> >> willing to try again and again. Until that time comes I do not see >> >> any >> >> way >> >> I can be of service to her and any further recommendations on my part > are >> >> futile. I do recommend trust the people on this list serve, for >> >> after >> >> >> >> all it is the folks on this list serve and not my doctors who taught >> >> me >> >> mastery of blood glucose level control. So in the future I wish >> >> you >> >> good luck and hopefully you will make good choices. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 , I hope what you are saying is not true. If it is, it is another good reason to fear and fight against socialized medicine, where all the power of diagnosis and treatment is invested in the state and its medical personnel, and the patient has no say in their care. If what you say is true, then I can understand why patients fear to speak for themselves in fear of reprisal from the state and its officials. Also if this is true, I understand why a doctor does not care for a drug representative to visit him to inform him about new drugs on the market. He does not wish to be bothered by them, because he does not control the purchase and dispersal and distribution of medication. All medicines are controlled by the state, and if a particular drug is not on the state's formulary, then it is never prescribed. So what would be the use of learning something from a drug representative who wishes to sell the latest dosage system by Lantus? I failed >>> >> >>> >> I freely admit that I have failed in her attempts to master >>> >> blood >>> >> glucose level control. I have failed her in several respects. First >> of >>> >> all >>> >> >>> >> I have failed to gain her trust. In this same respect I have failed >>> >> to >>> >> gain >>> >> >>> >> the trust of her husband. It has been evident for several weeks to >>> >> anyone >>> >> who cares to make simple observations. When a person can make simple >>> >> experimental recommendations, which are in themselves perfectly safe >> for >>> >> another to perform, and yet these simple recommendations are never >>> >> carried >>> >> out is a definite sign that I am not trusted. I failed to convince >> >>> >> that she is the primary person that all of her helpers, including her >>> >> doctor, nurse and husband, should listen to her wishes. They should >>> >> accommodate her and not her who accommodate them. I failed to show >>> >> how >>> >> to >>> >> do this. I failed to get to share with her doctors and nurse >>> >> my >>> >> recommendations I have urged her to do. I failed to have her >> understand >>> >> that doing experiments in a fish bowl, where every one can see what >>> >> is >>> >> happening is the safest way to conduct life experimentation. Keeping >> no >>> >> secrets amongst all those willing to help is the best way to make >>> >> sure >>> >> that >>> >> one will be safe, and I don't think knows this. While I know >> >>> >> can count, I still failed to have her count a specific number of >>> >> grams >> of >>> >> carbs of her own choosing and have her stick to it for at least two >> days >>> >> in >>> >> a row. I failed to convince her importance of this simple procedure. >> I >>> >> failed to get to believe that she alone is the most important >>> >> authority over her body. I am not her authority. Presently, it >> appears >>> >> that her doctor, nurse and husband are her authorities, not . I >>> >> failed >>> >> >>> >> to demonstrate to that I am truly a master of my blood glucose >>> >> control, and maybe the fact of over a year of A1C's being at or below >> 5.5 >>> >> does not impress her, even though most of my past year and a half >>> >> A1C's >>> >> were >>> >> >>> >> 5.3 and lower. I have failed others here, too. Long before Wayne >>> >> had >>> >> the >>> >> first amputation several others and I tried to get him to listen to >>> >> us, >>> >> but >>> >> we all failed him, and I am sure we regret that he is no longer with >> us. >>> >> He >>> >> >>> >> steadfastly believed that only his doctor was right, and he insisted >>> >> on >>> >> doing what his doctor recommended and no others. I failed to have >>> >> him >>> >> chart >>> >> >>> >> his progress or lack of progress where what was happening could >>> >> clearly >>> >> be >>> >> seen by him and all others who cared to look. Apparently, I have >> failed >>> >> in the same way. By doing this charting the evidence is >>> >> clearly >>> >> visible to all, and any experiments in mastery of blood glucose >>> >> control >>> >> can >>> >> be shown to the diabetic, the doctor, the nurse, the spouse, and any >>> >> others >>> >> who care to see. Through this method the individual diabetic learns >> who >>> >> is >>> >> the real authority over one's own body, and it usually comes down to >>> >> be >>> >> the >>> >> responsibility of a single individual, and you know who that would >>> >> be. >>> >> It >>> >> would be you. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> I not only admit that I have failed , but I also admit I am >> helpless >>> >> to >>> >> >>> >> make her follow my instructions. When is willing to trust me, >>> >> I >> am >>> >> willing to try again and again. Until that time comes I do not see >>> >> any >>> >> way >>> >> I can be of service to her and any further recommendations on my part >> are >>> >> futile. I do recommend trust the people on this list serve, >>> >> for >>> >> after >>> >> >>> >> all it is the folks on this list serve and not my doctors who taught >>> >> me >>> >> mastery of blood glucose level control. So in the future I >>> >> wish >>> >> you >>> >> good luck and hopefully you will make good choices. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 , I hope what you are saying is not true. If it is, it is another good reason to fear and fight against socialized medicine, where all the power of diagnosis and treatment is invested in the state and its medical personnel, and the patient has no say in their care. If what you say is true, then I can understand why patients fear to speak for themselves in fear of reprisal from the state and its officials. Also if this is true, I understand why a doctor does not care for a drug representative to visit him to inform him about new drugs on the market. He does not wish to be bothered by them, because he does not control the purchase and dispersal and distribution of medication. All medicines are controlled by the state, and if a particular drug is not on the state's formulary, then it is never prescribed. So what would be the use of learning something from a drug representative who wishes to sell the latest dosage system by Lantus? I failed >>> >> >>> >> I freely admit that I have failed in her attempts to master >>> >> blood >>> >> glucose level control. I have failed her in several respects. First >> of >>> >> all >>> >> >>> >> I have failed to gain her trust. In this same respect I have failed >>> >> to >>> >> gain >>> >> >>> >> the trust of her husband. It has been evident for several weeks to >>> >> anyone >>> >> who cares to make simple observations. When a person can make simple >>> >> experimental recommendations, which are in themselves perfectly safe >> for >>> >> another to perform, and yet these simple recommendations are never >>> >> carried >>> >> out is a definite sign that I am not trusted. I failed to convince >> >>> >> that she is the primary person that all of her helpers, including her >>> >> doctor, nurse and husband, should listen to her wishes. They should >>> >> accommodate her and not her who accommodate them. I failed to show >>> >> how >>> >> to >>> >> do this. I failed to get to share with her doctors and nurse >>> >> my >>> >> recommendations I have urged her to do. I failed to have her >> understand >>> >> that doing experiments in a fish bowl, where every one can see what >>> >> is >>> >> happening is the safest way to conduct life experimentation. Keeping >> no >>> >> secrets amongst all those willing to help is the best way to make >>> >> sure >>> >> that >>> >> one will be safe, and I don't think knows this. While I know >> >>> >> can count, I still failed to have her count a specific number of >>> >> grams >> of >>> >> carbs of her own choosing and have her stick to it for at least two >> days >>> >> in >>> >> a row. I failed to convince her importance of this simple procedure. >> I >>> >> failed to get to believe that she alone is the most important >>> >> authority over her body. I am not her authority. Presently, it >> appears >>> >> that her doctor, nurse and husband are her authorities, not . I >>> >> failed >>> >> >>> >> to demonstrate to that I am truly a master of my blood glucose >>> >> control, and maybe the fact of over a year of A1C's being at or below >> 5.5 >>> >> does not impress her, even though most of my past year and a half >>> >> A1C's >>> >> were >>> >> >>> >> 5.3 and lower. I have failed others here, too. Long before Wayne >>> >> had >>> >> the >>> >> first amputation several others and I tried to get him to listen to >>> >> us, >>> >> but >>> >> we all failed him, and I am sure we regret that he is no longer with >> us. >>> >> He >>> >> >>> >> steadfastly believed that only his doctor was right, and he insisted >>> >> on >>> >> doing what his doctor recommended and no others. I failed to have >>> >> him >>> >> chart >>> >> >>> >> his progress or lack of progress where what was happening could >>> >> clearly >>> >> be >>> >> seen by him and all others who cared to look. Apparently, I have >> failed >>> >> in the same way. By doing this charting the evidence is >>> >> clearly >>> >> visible to all, and any experiments in mastery of blood glucose >>> >> control >>> >> can >>> >> be shown to the diabetic, the doctor, the nurse, the spouse, and any >>> >> others >>> >> who care to see. Through this method the individual diabetic learns >> who >>> >> is >>> >> the real authority over one's own body, and it usually comes down to >>> >> be >>> >> the >>> >> responsibility of a single individual, and you know who that would >>> >> be. >>> >> It >>> >> would be you. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> I not only admit that I have failed , but I also admit I am >> helpless >>> >> to >>> >> >>> >> make her follow my instructions. When is willing to trust me, >>> >> I >> am >>> >> willing to try again and again. Until that time comes I do not see >>> >> any >>> >> way >>> >> I can be of service to her and any further recommendations on my part >> are >>> >> futile. I do recommend trust the people on this list serve, >>> >> for >>> >> after >>> >> >>> >> all it is the folks on this list serve and not my doctors who taught >>> >> me >>> >> mastery of blood glucose level control. So in the future I >>> >> wish >>> >> you >>> >> good luck and hopefully you will make good choices. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 , I hope what you are saying is not true. If it is, it is another good reason to fear and fight against socialized medicine, where all the power of diagnosis and treatment is invested in the state and its medical personnel, and the patient has no say in their care. If what you say is true, then I can understand why patients fear to speak for themselves in fear of reprisal from the state and its officials. Also if this is true, I understand why a doctor does not care for a drug representative to visit him to inform him about new drugs on the market. He does not wish to be bothered by them, because he does not control the purchase and dispersal and distribution of medication. All medicines are controlled by the state, and if a particular drug is not on the state's formulary, then it is never prescribed. So what would be the use of learning something from a drug representative who wishes to sell the latest dosage system by Lantus? I failed >>> >> >>> >> I freely admit that I have failed in her attempts to master >>> >> blood >>> >> glucose level control. I have failed her in several respects. First >> of >>> >> all >>> >> >>> >> I have failed to gain her trust. In this same respect I have failed >>> >> to >>> >> gain >>> >> >>> >> the trust of her husband. It has been evident for several weeks to >>> >> anyone >>> >> who cares to make simple observations. When a person can make simple >>> >> experimental recommendations, which are in themselves perfectly safe >> for >>> >> another to perform, and yet these simple recommendations are never >>> >> carried >>> >> out is a definite sign that I am not trusted. I failed to convince >> >>> >> that she is the primary person that all of her helpers, including her >>> >> doctor, nurse and husband, should listen to her wishes. They should >>> >> accommodate her and not her who accommodate them. I failed to show >>> >> how >>> >> to >>> >> do this. I failed to get to share with her doctors and nurse >>> >> my >>> >> recommendations I have urged her to do. I failed to have her >> understand >>> >> that doing experiments in a fish bowl, where every one can see what >>> >> is >>> >> happening is the safest way to conduct life experimentation. Keeping >> no >>> >> secrets amongst all those willing to help is the best way to make >>> >> sure >>> >> that >>> >> one will be safe, and I don't think knows this. While I know >> >>> >> can count, I still failed to have her count a specific number of >>> >> grams >> of >>> >> carbs of her own choosing and have her stick to it for at least two >> days >>> >> in >>> >> a row. I failed to convince her importance of this simple procedure. >> I >>> >> failed to get to believe that she alone is the most important >>> >> authority over her body. I am not her authority. Presently, it >> appears >>> >> that her doctor, nurse and husband are her authorities, not . I >>> >> failed >>> >> >>> >> to demonstrate to that I am truly a master of my blood glucose >>> >> control, and maybe the fact of over a year of A1C's being at or below >> 5.5 >>> >> does not impress her, even though most of my past year and a half >>> >> A1C's >>> >> were >>> >> >>> >> 5.3 and lower. I have failed others here, too. Long before Wayne >>> >> had >>> >> the >>> >> first amputation several others and I tried to get him to listen to >>> >> us, >>> >> but >>> >> we all failed him, and I am sure we regret that he is no longer with >> us. >>> >> He >>> >> >>> >> steadfastly believed that only his doctor was right, and he insisted >>> >> on >>> >> doing what his doctor recommended and no others. I failed to have >>> >> him >>> >> chart >>> >> >>> >> his progress or lack of progress where what was happening could >>> >> clearly >>> >> be >>> >> seen by him and all others who cared to look. Apparently, I have >> failed >>> >> in the same way. By doing this charting the evidence is >>> >> clearly >>> >> visible to all, and any experiments in mastery of blood glucose >>> >> control >>> >> can >>> >> be shown to the diabetic, the doctor, the nurse, the spouse, and any >>> >> others >>> >> who care to see. Through this method the individual diabetic learns >> who >>> >> is >>> >> the real authority over one's own body, and it usually comes down to >>> >> be >>> >> the >>> >> responsibility of a single individual, and you know who that would >>> >> be. >>> >> It >>> >> would be you. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> I not only admit that I have failed , but I also admit I am >> helpless >>> >> to >>> >> >>> >> make her follow my instructions. When is willing to trust me, >>> >> I >> am >>> >> willing to try again and again. Until that time comes I do not see >>> >> any >>> >> way >>> >> I can be of service to her and any further recommendations on my part >> are >>> >> futile. I do recommend trust the people on this list serve, >>> >> for >>> >> after >>> >> >>> >> all it is the folks on this list serve and not my doctors who taught >>> >> me >>> >> mastery of blood glucose level control. So in the future I >>> >> wish >>> >> you >>> >> good luck and hopefully you will make good choices. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 , I am stunned that your medical people are so controlling. Don't they believe you are your own person who knows your body better than they do? I am wondering whuy you don't get a count-a-dose so you can measure your insulin independently? They are available from Maxi Aidsand are worth every penny even if you have to pay for it yourself. Re: I failed Marvin, I have kept silent long enough. you are correct in saying noone failed and this was not a test. patience is a virtue . my nurse came yesterday for her weekly visit and I had the report from the doctor saying I was to take the lantus eight. because he would not listen to me. she prefilled my weekly supply of needles of the lantus reluctantly with the seven units in each needle as I requested. but she called the doctor and told them she could not find the paper work. she did not like to follow the order with out it. I cant believe I had to lie to her with the paper work in my housecoat pocket at this very moment to change it to lantus seven at night. but like a kid, a blind kid. I had to resort to this to get my way. I told her I wanted lantus seven and I do my humalog four times a day and make the changes as I see them so what is the difference. . she said she was waiting for the busy doctor to call her back during the day yesterday. well I was counting on her forgetfulness. she was having a bad day yesterday and I was only her second patient and she was frustrated. I will likely catch hell after I am found out. but I cant believe I had to go to such drastic methods to get the lantus reduced by one stinking unit each naught. I trust the shit will hit the fan when I am found out. I failed >> >> >> >> I freely admit that I have failed in her attempts to master >> >> blood >> >> glucose level control. I have failed her in several respects. First > of >> >> all >> >> >> >> I have failed to gain her trust. In this same respect I have failed >> >> to >> >> gain >> >> >> >> the trust of her husband. It has been evident for several weeks to >> >> anyone >> >> who cares to make simple observations. When a person can make simple >> >> experimental recommendations, which are in themselves perfectly safe > for >> >> another to perform, and yet these simple recommendations are never >> >> carried >> >> out is a definite sign that I am not trusted. I failed to convince > >> >> that she is the primary person that all of her helpers, including her >> >> doctor, nurse and husband, should listen to her wishes. They should >> >> accommodate her and not her who accommodate them. I failed to show >> >> how >> >> to >> >> do this. I failed to get to share with her doctors and nurse my >> >> recommendations I have urged her to do. I failed to have her > understand >> >> that doing experiments in a fish bowl, where every one can see what is >> >> happening is the safest way to conduct life experimentation. Keeping > no >> >> secrets amongst all those willing to help is the best way to make sure >> >> that >> >> one will be safe, and I don't think knows this. While I know > >> >> can count, I still failed to have her count a specific number of grams > of >> >> carbs of her own choosing and have her stick to it for at least two > days >> >> in >> >> a row. I failed to convince her importance of this simple procedure. > I >> >> failed to get to believe that she alone is the most important >> >> authority over her body. I am not her authority. Presently, it > appears >> >> that her doctor, nurse and husband are her authorities, not . I >> >> failed >> >> >> >> to demonstrate to that I am truly a master of my blood glucose >> >> control, and maybe the fact of over a year of A1C's being at or below > 5.5 >> >> does not impress her, even though most of my past year and a half >> >> A1C's >> >> were >> >> >> >> 5.3 and lower. I have failed others here, too. Long before Wayne had >> >> the >> >> first amputation several others and I tried to get him to listen to >> >> us, >> >> but >> >> we all failed him, and I am sure we regret that he is no longer with > us. >> >> He >> >> >> >> steadfastly believed that only his doctor was right, and he insisted >> >> on >> >> doing what his doctor recommended and no others. I failed to have him >> >> chart >> >> >> >> his progress or lack of progress where what was happening could >> >> clearly >> >> be >> >> seen by him and all others who cared to look. Apparently, I have > failed >> >> in the same way. By doing this charting the evidence is clearly >> >> visible to all, and any experiments in mastery of blood glucose >> >> control >> >> can >> >> be shown to the diabetic, the doctor, the nurse, the spouse, and any >> >> others >> >> who care to see. Through this method the individual diabetic learns > who >> >> is >> >> the real authority over one's own body, and it usually comes down to >> >> be >> >> the >> >> responsibility of a single individual, and you know who that would be. >> >> It >> >> would be you. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I not only admit that I have failed , but I also admit I am > helpless >> >> to >> >> >> >> make her follow my instructions. When is willing to trust me, I > am >> >> willing to try again and again. Until that time comes I do not see >> >> any >> >> way >> >> I can be of service to her and any further recommendations on my part > are >> >> futile. I do recommend trust the people on this list serve, for >> >> after >> >> >> >> all it is the folks on this list serve and not my doctors who taught >> >> me >> >> mastery of blood glucose level control. So in the future I wish >> >> you >> >> good luck and hopefully you will make good choices. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 , I am stunned that your medical people are so controlling. Don't they believe you are your own person who knows your body better than they do? I am wondering whuy you don't get a count-a-dose so you can measure your insulin independently? They are available from Maxi Aidsand are worth every penny even if you have to pay for it yourself. Re: I failed Marvin, I have kept silent long enough. you are correct in saying noone failed and this was not a test. patience is a virtue . my nurse came yesterday for her weekly visit and I had the report from the doctor saying I was to take the lantus eight. because he would not listen to me. she prefilled my weekly supply of needles of the lantus reluctantly with the seven units in each needle as I requested. but she called the doctor and told them she could not find the paper work. she did not like to follow the order with out it. I cant believe I had to lie to her with the paper work in my housecoat pocket at this very moment to change it to lantus seven at night. but like a kid, a blind kid. I had to resort to this to get my way. I told her I wanted lantus seven and I do my humalog four times a day and make the changes as I see them so what is the difference. . she said she was waiting for the busy doctor to call her back during the day yesterday. well I was counting on her forgetfulness. she was having a bad day yesterday and I was only her second patient and she was frustrated. I will likely catch hell after I am found out. but I cant believe I had to go to such drastic methods to get the lantus reduced by one stinking unit each naught. I trust the shit will hit the fan when I am found out. I failed >> >> >> >> I freely admit that I have failed in her attempts to master >> >> blood >> >> glucose level control. I have failed her in several respects. First > of >> >> all >> >> >> >> I have failed to gain her trust. In this same respect I have failed >> >> to >> >> gain >> >> >> >> the trust of her husband. It has been evident for several weeks to >> >> anyone >> >> who cares to make simple observations. When a person can make simple >> >> experimental recommendations, which are in themselves perfectly safe > for >> >> another to perform, and yet these simple recommendations are never >> >> carried >> >> out is a definite sign that I am not trusted. I failed to convince > >> >> that she is the primary person that all of her helpers, including her >> >> doctor, nurse and husband, should listen to her wishes. They should >> >> accommodate her and not her who accommodate them. I failed to show >> >> how >> >> to >> >> do this. I failed to get to share with her doctors and nurse my >> >> recommendations I have urged her to do. I failed to have her > understand >> >> that doing experiments in a fish bowl, where every one can see what is >> >> happening is the safest way to conduct life experimentation. Keeping > no >> >> secrets amongst all those willing to help is the best way to make sure >> >> that >> >> one will be safe, and I don't think knows this. While I know > >> >> can count, I still failed to have her count a specific number of grams > of >> >> carbs of her own choosing and have her stick to it for at least two > days >> >> in >> >> a row. I failed to convince her importance of this simple procedure. > I >> >> failed to get to believe that she alone is the most important >> >> authority over her body. I am not her authority. Presently, it > appears >> >> that her doctor, nurse and husband are her authorities, not . I >> >> failed >> >> >> >> to demonstrate to that I am truly a master of my blood glucose >> >> control, and maybe the fact of over a year of A1C's being at or below > 5.5 >> >> does not impress her, even though most of my past year and a half >> >> A1C's >> >> were >> >> >> >> 5.3 and lower. I have failed others here, too. Long before Wayne had >> >> the >> >> first amputation several others and I tried to get him to listen to >> >> us, >> >> but >> >> we all failed him, and I am sure we regret that he is no longer with > us. >> >> He >> >> >> >> steadfastly believed that only his doctor was right, and he insisted >> >> on >> >> doing what his doctor recommended and no others. I failed to have him >> >> chart >> >> >> >> his progress or lack of progress where what was happening could >> >> clearly >> >> be >> >> seen by him and all others who cared to look. Apparently, I have > failed >> >> in the same way. By doing this charting the evidence is clearly >> >> visible to all, and any experiments in mastery of blood glucose >> >> control >> >> can >> >> be shown to the diabetic, the doctor, the nurse, the spouse, and any >> >> others >> >> who care to see. Through this method the individual diabetic learns > who >> >> is >> >> the real authority over one's own body, and it usually comes down to >> >> be >> >> the >> >> responsibility of a single individual, and you know who that would be. >> >> It >> >> would be you. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I not only admit that I have failed , but I also admit I am > helpless >> >> to >> >> >> >> make her follow my instructions. When is willing to trust me, I > am >> >> willing to try again and again. Until that time comes I do not see >> >> any >> >> way >> >> I can be of service to her and any further recommendations on my part > are >> >> futile. I do recommend trust the people on this list serve, for >> >> after >> >> >> >> all it is the folks on this list serve and not my doctors who taught >> >> me >> >> mastery of blood glucose level control. So in the future I wish >> >> you >> >> good luck and hopefully you will make good choices. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 patricia, were is maxi aids? i had an email from this group which i gave to my doctor. i understood if the doctor called he could get it free and then give it to the patient. the doctor has not got the time to make the many calls to talk to someone to get it. he says the company is useless and he cant get it? karen I failed >>> >> >>> >> I freely admit that I have failed in her attempts to master >>> >> blood >>> >> glucose level control. I have failed her in several respects. First >> of >>> >> all >>> >> >>> >> I have failed to gain her trust. In this same respect I have failed >>> >> to >>> >> gain >>> >> >>> >> the trust of her husband. It has been evident for several weeks to >>> >> anyone >>> >> who cares to make simple observations. When a person can make simple >>> >> experimental recommendations, which are in themselves perfectly safe >> for >>> >> another to perform, and yet these simple recommendations are never >>> >> carried >>> >> out is a definite sign that I am not trusted. I failed to convince >> >>> >> that she is the primary person that all of her helpers, including her >>> >> doctor, nurse and husband, should listen to her wishes. They should >>> >> accommodate her and not her who accommodate them. I failed to show >>> >> how >>> >> to >>> >> do this. I failed to get to share with her doctors and nurse >>> >> my >>> >> recommendations I have urged her to do. I failed to have her >> understand >>> >> that doing experiments in a fish bowl, where every one can see what >>> >> is >>> >> happening is the safest way to conduct life experimentation. Keeping >> no >>> >> secrets amongst all those willing to help is the best way to make >>> >> sure >>> >> that >>> >> one will be safe, and I don't think knows this. While I know >> >>> >> can count, I still failed to have her count a specific number of >>> >> grams >> of >>> >> carbs of her own choosing and have her stick to it for at least two >> days >>> >> in >>> >> a row. I failed to convince her importance of this simple procedure. >> I >>> >> failed to get to believe that she alone is the most important >>> >> authority over her body. I am not her authority. Presently, it >> appears >>> >> that her doctor, nurse and husband are her authorities, not . I >>> >> failed >>> >> >>> >> to demonstrate to that I am truly a master of my blood glucose >>> >> control, and maybe the fact of over a year of A1C's being at or below >> 5.5 >>> >> does not impress her, even though most of my past year and a half >>> >> A1C's >>> >> were >>> >> >>> >> 5.3 and lower. I have failed others here, too. Long before Wayne >>> >> had >>> >> the >>> >> first amputation several others and I tried to get him to listen to >>> >> us, >>> >> but >>> >> we all failed him, and I am sure we regret that he is no longer with >> us. >>> >> He >>> >> >>> >> steadfastly believed that only his doctor was right, and he insisted >>> >> on >>> >> doing what his doctor recommended and no others. I failed to have >>> >> him >>> >> chart >>> >> >>> >> his progress or lack of progress where what was happening could >>> >> clearly >>> >> be >>> >> seen by him and all others who cared to look. Apparently, I have >> failed >>> >> in the same way. By doing this charting the evidence is >>> >> clearly >>> >> visible to all, and any experiments in mastery of blood glucose >>> >> control >>> >> can >>> >> be shown to the diabetic, the doctor, the nurse, the spouse, and any >>> >> others >>> >> who care to see. Through this method the individual diabetic learns >> who >>> >> is >>> >> the real authority over one's own body, and it usually comes down to >>> >> be >>> >> the >>> >> responsibility of a single individual, and you know who that would >>> >> be. >>> >> It >>> >> would be you. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> I not only admit that I have failed , but I also admit I am >> helpless >>> >> to >>> >> >>> >> make her follow my instructions. When is willing to trust me, >>> >> I >> am >>> >> willing to try again and again. Until that time comes I do not see >>> >> any >>> >> way >>> >> I can be of service to her and any further recommendations on my part >> are >>> >> futile. I do recommend trust the people on this list serve, >>> >> for >>> >> after >>> >> >>> >> all it is the folks on this list serve and not my doctors who taught >>> >> me >>> >> mastery of blood glucose level control. So in the future I >>> >> wish >>> >> you >>> >> good luck and hopefully you will make good choices. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 patricia, were is maxi aids? i had an email from this group which i gave to my doctor. i understood if the doctor called he could get it free and then give it to the patient. the doctor has not got the time to make the many calls to talk to someone to get it. he says the company is useless and he cant get it? karen I failed >>> >> >>> >> I freely admit that I have failed in her attempts to master >>> >> blood >>> >> glucose level control. I have failed her in several respects. First >> of >>> >> all >>> >> >>> >> I have failed to gain her trust. In this same respect I have failed >>> >> to >>> >> gain >>> >> >>> >> the trust of her husband. It has been evident for several weeks to >>> >> anyone >>> >> who cares to make simple observations. When a person can make simple >>> >> experimental recommendations, which are in themselves perfectly safe >> for >>> >> another to perform, and yet these simple recommendations are never >>> >> carried >>> >> out is a definite sign that I am not trusted. I failed to convince >> >>> >> that she is the primary person that all of her helpers, including her >>> >> doctor, nurse and husband, should listen to her wishes. They should >>> >> accommodate her and not her who accommodate them. I failed to show >>> >> how >>> >> to >>> >> do this. I failed to get to share with her doctors and nurse >>> >> my >>> >> recommendations I have urged her to do. I failed to have her >> understand >>> >> that doing experiments in a fish bowl, where every one can see what >>> >> is >>> >> happening is the safest way to conduct life experimentation. Keeping >> no >>> >> secrets amongst all those willing to help is the best way to make >>> >> sure >>> >> that >>> >> one will be safe, and I don't think knows this. While I know >> >>> >> can count, I still failed to have her count a specific number of >>> >> grams >> of >>> >> carbs of her own choosing and have her stick to it for at least two >> days >>> >> in >>> >> a row. I failed to convince her importance of this simple procedure. >> I >>> >> failed to get to believe that she alone is the most important >>> >> authority over her body. I am not her authority. Presently, it >> appears >>> >> that her doctor, nurse and husband are her authorities, not . I >>> >> failed >>> >> >>> >> to demonstrate to that I am truly a master of my blood glucose >>> >> control, and maybe the fact of over a year of A1C's being at or below >> 5.5 >>> >> does not impress her, even though most of my past year and a half >>> >> A1C's >>> >> were >>> >> >>> >> 5.3 and lower. I have failed others here, too. Long before Wayne >>> >> had >>> >> the >>> >> first amputation several others and I tried to get him to listen to >>> >> us, >>> >> but >>> >> we all failed him, and I am sure we regret that he is no longer with >> us. >>> >> He >>> >> >>> >> steadfastly believed that only his doctor was right, and he insisted >>> >> on >>> >> doing what his doctor recommended and no others. I failed to have >>> >> him >>> >> chart >>> >> >>> >> his progress or lack of progress where what was happening could >>> >> clearly >>> >> be >>> >> seen by him and all others who cared to look. Apparently, I have >> failed >>> >> in the same way. By doing this charting the evidence is >>> >> clearly >>> >> visible to all, and any experiments in mastery of blood glucose >>> >> control >>> >> can >>> >> be shown to the diabetic, the doctor, the nurse, the spouse, and any >>> >> others >>> >> who care to see. Through this method the individual diabetic learns >> who >>> >> is >>> >> the real authority over one's own body, and it usually comes down to >>> >> be >>> >> the >>> >> responsibility of a single individual, and you know who that would >>> >> be. >>> >> It >>> >> would be you. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> I not only admit that I have failed , but I also admit I am >> helpless >>> >> to >>> >> >>> >> make her follow my instructions. When is willing to trust me, >>> >> I >> am >>> >> willing to try again and again. Until that time comes I do not see >>> >> any >>> >> way >>> >> I can be of service to her and any further recommendations on my part >> are >>> >> futile. I do recommend trust the people on this list serve, >>> >> for >>> >> after >>> >> >>> >> all it is the folks on this list serve and not my doctors who taught >>> >> me >>> >> mastery of blood glucose level control. So in the future I >>> >> wish >>> >> you >>> >> good luck and hopefully you will make good choices. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 The count-a-dose dosing system is sold by a private business called Maxy aides. If the government of Canada does not stock this device in their medical supplies, then the doctor is powerless to give it to you. However you can purchase it on your own with your own money. I failed >>>> >> >>>> >> I freely admit that I have failed in her attempts to master >>>> >> blood >>>> >> glucose level control. I have failed her in several respects. >>>> >> First >>> of >>>> >> all >>>> >> >>>> >> I have failed to gain her trust. In this same respect I have failed >>>> >> to >>>> >> gain >>>> >> >>>> >> the trust of her husband. It has been evident for several weeks to >>>> >> anyone >>>> >> who cares to make simple observations. When a person can make >>>> >> simple >>>> >> experimental recommendations, which are in themselves perfectly safe >>> for >>>> >> another to perform, and yet these simple recommendations are never >>>> >> carried >>>> >> out is a definite sign that I am not trusted. I failed to convince >>> >>>> >> that she is the primary person that all of her helpers, including >>>> >> her >>>> >> doctor, nurse and husband, should listen to her wishes. They should >>>> >> accommodate her and not her who accommodate them. I failed to show >>>> >> how >>>> >> to >>>> >> do this. I failed to get to share with her doctors and nurse >>>> >> my >>>> >> recommendations I have urged her to do. I failed to have her >>> understand >>>> >> that doing experiments in a fish bowl, where every one can see what >>>> >> is >>>> >> happening is the safest way to conduct life experimentation. >>>> >> Keeping >>> no >>>> >> secrets amongst all those willing to help is the best way to make >>>> >> sure >>>> >> that >>>> >> one will be safe, and I don't think knows this. While I know >>> >>>> >> can count, I still failed to have her count a specific number of >>>> >> grams >>> of >>>> >> carbs of her own choosing and have her stick to it for at least two >>> days >>>> >> in >>>> >> a row. I failed to convince her importance of this simple >>>> >> procedure. >>> I >>>> >> failed to get to believe that she alone is the most important >>>> >> authority over her body. I am not her authority. Presently, it >>> appears >>>> >> that her doctor, nurse and husband are her authorities, not . >>>> >> I >>>> >> failed >>>> >> >>>> >> to demonstrate to that I am truly a master of my blood glucose >>>> >> control, and maybe the fact of over a year of A1C's being at or >>>> >> below >>> 5.5 >>>> >> does not impress her, even though most of my past year and a half >>>> >> A1C's >>>> >> were >>>> >> >>>> >> 5.3 and lower. I have failed others here, too. Long before Wayne >>>> >> had >>>> >> the >>>> >> first amputation several others and I tried to get him to listen to >>>> >> us, >>>> >> but >>>> >> we all failed him, and I am sure we regret that he is no longer with >>> us. >>>> >> He >>>> >> >>>> >> steadfastly believed that only his doctor was right, and he insisted >>>> >> on >>>> >> doing what his doctor recommended and no others. I failed to have >>>> >> him >>>> >> chart >>>> >> >>>> >> his progress or lack of progress where what was happening could >>>> >> clearly >>>> >> be >>>> >> seen by him and all others who cared to look. Apparently, I have >>> failed >>>> >> in the same way. By doing this charting the evidence is >>>> >> clearly >>>> >> visible to all, and any experiments in mastery of blood glucose >>>> >> control >>>> >> can >>>> >> be shown to the diabetic, the doctor, the nurse, the spouse, and any >>>> >> others >>>> >> who care to see. Through this method the individual diabetic learns >>> who >>>> >> is >>>> >> the real authority over one's own body, and it usually comes down to >>>> >> be >>>> >> the >>>> >> responsibility of a single individual, and you know who that would >>>> >> be. >>>> >> It >>>> >> would be you. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> I not only admit that I have failed , but I also admit I am >>> helpless >>>> >> to >>>> >> >>>> >> make her follow my instructions. When is willing to trust me, >>>> >> I >>> am >>>> >> willing to try again and again. Until that time comes I do not see >>>> >> any >>>> >> way >>>> >> I can be of service to her and any further recommendations on my >>>> >> part >>> are >>>> >> futile. I do recommend trust the people on this list serve, >>>> >> for >>>> >> after >>>> >> >>>> >> all it is the folks on this list serve and not my doctors who taught >>>> >> me >>>> >> mastery of blood glucose level control. So in the future I >>>> >> wish >>>> >> you >>>> >> good luck and hopefully you will make good choices. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Harry, the supplier of lantis is not one of the doctors regular suppliers. I gave him the companies phone number and I know I have called them many times and you do get a run around. I have been trying to get lantus for a long time now. and I thank god I finally have it. nothing move quickly here and that is truth. if I could administer the lantus myself I would have control. why the heck would a manufacturer not make it in pen forum? all the insulin's come this way. it drives me crazy but it is something we have to deal with. I will try calling the supplier again today. but in the past they will not be doing anything for me because you have to be a doctor. so I will just complain. but I am just one person. I do not know what else I can do? I failed >>>> >> >>>> >> I freely admit that I have failed in her attempts to master >>>> >> blood >>>> >> glucose level control. I have failed her in several respects. >>>> >> First >>> of >>>> >> all >>>> >> >>>> >> I have failed to gain her trust. In this same respect I have failed >>>> >> to >>>> >> gain >>>> >> >>>> >> the trust of her husband. It has been evident for several weeks to >>>> >> anyone >>>> >> who cares to make simple observations. When a person can make >>>> >> simple >>>> >> experimental recommendations, which are in themselves perfectly safe >>> for >>>> >> another to perform, and yet these simple recommendations are never >>>> >> carried >>>> >> out is a definite sign that I am not trusted. I failed to convince >>> >>>> >> that she is the primary person that all of her helpers, including >>>> >> her >>>> >> doctor, nurse and husband, should listen to her wishes. They should >>>> >> accommodate her and not her who accommodate them. I failed to show >>>> >> how >>>> >> to >>>> >> do this. I failed to get to share with her doctors and nurse >>>> >> my >>>> >> recommendations I have urged her to do. I failed to have her >>> understand >>>> >> that doing experiments in a fish bowl, where every one can see what >>>> >> is >>>> >> happening is the safest way to conduct life experimentation. >>>> >> Keeping >>> no >>>> >> secrets amongst all those willing to help is the best way to make >>>> >> sure >>>> >> that >>>> >> one will be safe, and I don't think knows this. While I know >>> >>>> >> can count, I still failed to have her count a specific number of >>>> >> grams >>> of >>>> >> carbs of her own choosing and have her stick to it for at least two >>> days >>>> >> in >>>> >> a row. I failed to convince her importance of this simple >>>> >> procedure. >>> I >>>> >> failed to get to believe that she alone is the most important >>>> >> authority over her body. I am not her authority. Presently, it >>> appears >>>> >> that her doctor, nurse and husband are her authorities, not . >>>> >> I >>>> >> failed >>>> >> >>>> >> to demonstrate to that I am truly a master of my blood glucose >>>> >> control, and maybe the fact of over a year of A1C's being at or >>>> >> below >>> 5.5 >>>> >> does not impress her, even though most of my past year and a half >>>> >> A1C's >>>> >> were >>>> >> >>>> >> 5.3 and lower. I have failed others here, too. Long before Wayne >>>> >> had >>>> >> the >>>> >> first amputation several others and I tried to get him to listen to >>>> >> us, >>>> >> but >>>> >> we all failed him, and I am sure we regret that he is no longer with >>> us. >>>> >> He >>>> >> >>>> >> steadfastly believed that only his doctor was right, and he insisted >>>> >> on >>>> >> doing what his doctor recommended and no others. I failed to have >>>> >> him >>>> >> chart >>>> >> >>>> >> his progress or lack of progress where what was happening could >>>> >> clearly >>>> >> be >>>> >> seen by him and all others who cared to look. Apparently, I have >>> failed >>>> >> in the same way. By doing this charting the evidence is >>>> >> clearly >>>> >> visible to all, and any experiments in mastery of blood glucose >>>> >> control >>>> >> can >>>> >> be shown to the diabetic, the doctor, the nurse, the spouse, and any >>>> >> others >>>> >> who care to see. Through this method the individual diabetic learns >>> who >>>> >> is >>>> >> the real authority over one's own body, and it usually comes down to >>>> >> be >>>> >> the >>>> >> responsibility of a single individual, and you know who that would >>>> >> be. >>>> >> It >>>> >> would be you. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> I not only admit that I have failed , but I also admit I am >>> helpless >>>> >> to >>>> >> >>>> >> make her follow my instructions. When is willing to trust me, >>>> >> I >>> am >>>> >> willing to try again and again. Until that time comes I do not see >>>> >> any >>>> >> way >>>> >> I can be of service to her and any further recommendations on my >>>> >> part >>> are >>>> >> futile. I do recommend trust the people on this list serve, >>>> >> for >>>> >> after >>>> >> >>>> >> all it is the folks on this list serve and not my doctors who taught >>>> >> me >>>> >> mastery of blood glucose level control. So in the future I >>>> >> wish >>>> >> you >>>> >> good luck and hopefully you will make good choices. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Harry, the supplier of lantis is not one of the doctors regular suppliers. I gave him the companies phone number and I know I have called them many times and you do get a run around. I have been trying to get lantus for a long time now. and I thank god I finally have it. nothing move quickly here and that is truth. if I could administer the lantus myself I would have control. why the heck would a manufacturer not make it in pen forum? all the insulin's come this way. it drives me crazy but it is something we have to deal with. I will try calling the supplier again today. but in the past they will not be doing anything for me because you have to be a doctor. so I will just complain. but I am just one person. I do not know what else I can do? I failed >>>> >> >>>> >> I freely admit that I have failed in her attempts to master >>>> >> blood >>>> >> glucose level control. I have failed her in several respects. >>>> >> First >>> of >>>> >> all >>>> >> >>>> >> I have failed to gain her trust. In this same respect I have failed >>>> >> to >>>> >> gain >>>> >> >>>> >> the trust of her husband. It has been evident for several weeks to >>>> >> anyone >>>> >> who cares to make simple observations. When a person can make >>>> >> simple >>>> >> experimental recommendations, which are in themselves perfectly safe >>> for >>>> >> another to perform, and yet these simple recommendations are never >>>> >> carried >>>> >> out is a definite sign that I am not trusted. I failed to convince >>> >>>> >> that she is the primary person that all of her helpers, including >>>> >> her >>>> >> doctor, nurse and husband, should listen to her wishes. They should >>>> >> accommodate her and not her who accommodate them. I failed to show >>>> >> how >>>> >> to >>>> >> do this. I failed to get to share with her doctors and nurse >>>> >> my >>>> >> recommendations I have urged her to do. I failed to have her >>> understand >>>> >> that doing experiments in a fish bowl, where every one can see what >>>> >> is >>>> >> happening is the safest way to conduct life experimentation. >>>> >> Keeping >>> no >>>> >> secrets amongst all those willing to help is the best way to make >>>> >> sure >>>> >> that >>>> >> one will be safe, and I don't think knows this. While I know >>> >>>> >> can count, I still failed to have her count a specific number of >>>> >> grams >>> of >>>> >> carbs of her own choosing and have her stick to it for at least two >>> days >>>> >> in >>>> >> a row. I failed to convince her importance of this simple >>>> >> procedure. >>> I >>>> >> failed to get to believe that she alone is the most important >>>> >> authority over her body. I am not her authority. Presently, it >>> appears >>>> >> that her doctor, nurse and husband are her authorities, not . >>>> >> I >>>> >> failed >>>> >> >>>> >> to demonstrate to that I am truly a master of my blood glucose >>>> >> control, and maybe the fact of over a year of A1C's being at or >>>> >> below >>> 5.5 >>>> >> does not impress her, even though most of my past year and a half >>>> >> A1C's >>>> >> were >>>> >> >>>> >> 5.3 and lower. I have failed others here, too. Long before Wayne >>>> >> had >>>> >> the >>>> >> first amputation several others and I tried to get him to listen to >>>> >> us, >>>> >> but >>>> >> we all failed him, and I am sure we regret that he is no longer with >>> us. >>>> >> He >>>> >> >>>> >> steadfastly believed that only his doctor was right, and he insisted >>>> >> on >>>> >> doing what his doctor recommended and no others. I failed to have >>>> >> him >>>> >> chart >>>> >> >>>> >> his progress or lack of progress where what was happening could >>>> >> clearly >>>> >> be >>>> >> seen by him and all others who cared to look. Apparently, I have >>> failed >>>> >> in the same way. By doing this charting the evidence is >>>> >> clearly >>>> >> visible to all, and any experiments in mastery of blood glucose >>>> >> control >>>> >> can >>>> >> be shown to the diabetic, the doctor, the nurse, the spouse, and any >>>> >> others >>>> >> who care to see. Through this method the individual diabetic learns >>> who >>>> >> is >>>> >> the real authority over one's own body, and it usually comes down to >>>> >> be >>>> >> the >>>> >> responsibility of a single individual, and you know who that would >>>> >> be. >>>> >> It >>>> >> would be you. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> I not only admit that I have failed , but I also admit I am >>> helpless >>>> >> to >>>> >> >>>> >> make her follow my instructions. When is willing to trust me, >>>> >> I >>> am >>>> >> willing to try again and again. Until that time comes I do not see >>>> >> any >>>> >> way >>>> >> I can be of service to her and any further recommendations on my >>>> >> part >>> are >>>> >> futile. I do recommend trust the people on this list serve, >>>> >> for >>>> >> after >>>> >> >>>> >> all it is the folks on this list serve and not my doctors who taught >>>> >> me >>>> >> mastery of blood glucose level control. So in the future I >>>> >> wish >>>> >> you >>>> >> good luck and hopefully you will make good choices. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Harry, the supplier of lantis is not one of the doctors regular suppliers. I gave him the companies phone number and I know I have called them many times and you do get a run around. I have been trying to get lantus for a long time now. and I thank god I finally have it. nothing move quickly here and that is truth. if I could administer the lantus myself I would have control. why the heck would a manufacturer not make it in pen forum? all the insulin's come this way. it drives me crazy but it is something we have to deal with. I will try calling the supplier again today. but in the past they will not be doing anything for me because you have to be a doctor. so I will just complain. but I am just one person. I do not know what else I can do? I failed >>>> >> >>>> >> I freely admit that I have failed in her attempts to master >>>> >> blood >>>> >> glucose level control. I have failed her in several respects. >>>> >> First >>> of >>>> >> all >>>> >> >>>> >> I have failed to gain her trust. In this same respect I have failed >>>> >> to >>>> >> gain >>>> >> >>>> >> the trust of her husband. It has been evident for several weeks to >>>> >> anyone >>>> >> who cares to make simple observations. When a person can make >>>> >> simple >>>> >> experimental recommendations, which are in themselves perfectly safe >>> for >>>> >> another to perform, and yet these simple recommendations are never >>>> >> carried >>>> >> out is a definite sign that I am not trusted. I failed to convince >>> >>>> >> that she is the primary person that all of her helpers, including >>>> >> her >>>> >> doctor, nurse and husband, should listen to her wishes. They should >>>> >> accommodate her and not her who accommodate them. I failed to show >>>> >> how >>>> >> to >>>> >> do this. I failed to get to share with her doctors and nurse >>>> >> my >>>> >> recommendations I have urged her to do. I failed to have her >>> understand >>>> >> that doing experiments in a fish bowl, where every one can see what >>>> >> is >>>> >> happening is the safest way to conduct life experimentation. >>>> >> Keeping >>> no >>>> >> secrets amongst all those willing to help is the best way to make >>>> >> sure >>>> >> that >>>> >> one will be safe, and I don't think knows this. While I know >>> >>>> >> can count, I still failed to have her count a specific number of >>>> >> grams >>> of >>>> >> carbs of her own choosing and have her stick to it for at least two >>> days >>>> >> in >>>> >> a row. I failed to convince her importance of this simple >>>> >> procedure. >>> I >>>> >> failed to get to believe that she alone is the most important >>>> >> authority over her body. I am not her authority. Presently, it >>> appears >>>> >> that her doctor, nurse and husband are her authorities, not . >>>> >> I >>>> >> failed >>>> >> >>>> >> to demonstrate to that I am truly a master of my blood glucose >>>> >> control, and maybe the fact of over a year of A1C's being at or >>>> >> below >>> 5.5 >>>> >> does not impress her, even though most of my past year and a half >>>> >> A1C's >>>> >> were >>>> >> >>>> >> 5.3 and lower. I have failed others here, too. Long before Wayne >>>> >> had >>>> >> the >>>> >> first amputation several others and I tried to get him to listen to >>>> >> us, >>>> >> but >>>> >> we all failed him, and I am sure we regret that he is no longer with >>> us. >>>> >> He >>>> >> >>>> >> steadfastly believed that only his doctor was right, and he insisted >>>> >> on >>>> >> doing what his doctor recommended and no others. I failed to have >>>> >> him >>>> >> chart >>>> >> >>>> >> his progress or lack of progress where what was happening could >>>> >> clearly >>>> >> be >>>> >> seen by him and all others who cared to look. Apparently, I have >>> failed >>>> >> in the same way. By doing this charting the evidence is >>>> >> clearly >>>> >> visible to all, and any experiments in mastery of blood glucose >>>> >> control >>>> >> can >>>> >> be shown to the diabetic, the doctor, the nurse, the spouse, and any >>>> >> others >>>> >> who care to see. Through this method the individual diabetic learns >>> who >>>> >> is >>>> >> the real authority over one's own body, and it usually comes down to >>>> >> be >>>> >> the >>>> >> responsibility of a single individual, and you know who that would >>>> >> be. >>>> >> It >>>> >> would be you. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> I not only admit that I have failed , but I also admit I am >>> helpless >>>> >> to >>>> >> >>>> >> make her follow my instructions. When is willing to trust me, >>>> >> I >>> am >>>> >> willing to try again and again. Until that time comes I do not see >>>> >> any >>>> >> way >>>> >> I can be of service to her and any further recommendations on my >>>> >> part >>> are >>>> >> futile. I do recommend trust the people on this list serve, >>>> >> for >>>> >> after >>>> >> >>>> >> all it is the folks on this list serve and not my doctors who taught >>>> >> me >>>> >> mastery of blood glucose level control. So in the future I >>>> >> wish >>>> >> you >>>> >> good luck and hopefully you will make good choices. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Lantus does come in pen form. If the pen form of Lantus is not on Canada's formulary, then the doctor cannot prescribe it. So the best solution for dosing Lantus would be for you to have your very own count-a-dose system, which costs around $50-60 USA. Then you could draw your own dose of Lantus from the vile. I failed >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I freely admit that I have failed in her attempts to master >>>>> >> blood >>>>> >> glucose level control. I have failed her in several respects. >>>>> >> First >>>> of >>>>> >> all >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I have failed to gain her trust. In this same respect I have >>>>> >> failed >>>>> >> to >>>>> >> gain >>>>> >> >>>>> >> the trust of her husband. It has been evident for several weeks to >>>>> >> anyone >>>>> >> who cares to make simple observations. When a person can make >>>>> >> simple >>>>> >> experimental recommendations, which are in themselves perfectly >>>>> >> safe >>>> for >>>>> >> another to perform, and yet these simple recommendations are never >>>>> >> carried >>>>> >> out is a definite sign that I am not trusted. I failed to convince >>>> >>>>> >> that she is the primary person that all of her helpers, including >>>>> >> her >>>>> >> doctor, nurse and husband, should listen to her wishes. They >>>>> >> should >>>>> >> accommodate her and not her who accommodate them. I failed to show >>>>> >> how >>>>> >> to >>>>> >> do this. I failed to get to share with her doctors and nurse >>>>> >> my >>>>> >> recommendations I have urged her to do. I failed to have her >>>> understand >>>>> >> that doing experiments in a fish bowl, where every one can see what >>>>> >> is >>>>> >> happening is the safest way to conduct life experimentation. >>>>> >> Keeping >>>> no >>>>> >> secrets amongst all those willing to help is the best way to make >>>>> >> sure >>>>> >> that >>>>> >> one will be safe, and I don't think knows this. While I know >>>> >>>>> >> can count, I still failed to have her count a specific number of >>>>> >> grams >>>> of >>>>> >> carbs of her own choosing and have her stick to it for at least two >>>> days >>>>> >> in >>>>> >> a row. I failed to convince her importance of this simple >>>>> >> procedure. >>>> I >>>>> >> failed to get to believe that she alone is the most important >>>>> >> authority over her body. I am not her authority. Presently, it >>>> appears >>>>> >> that her doctor, nurse and husband are her authorities, not . >>>>> >> I >>>>> >> failed >>>>> >> >>>>> >> to demonstrate to that I am truly a master of my blood >>>>> >> glucose >>>>> >> control, and maybe the fact of over a year of A1C's being at or >>>>> >> below >>>> 5.5 >>>>> >> does not impress her, even though most of my past year and a half >>>>> >> A1C's >>>>> >> were >>>>> >> >>>>> >> 5.3 and lower. I have failed others here, too. Long before Wayne >>>>> >> had >>>>> >> the >>>>> >> first amputation several others and I tried to get him to listen to >>>>> >> us, >>>>> >> but >>>>> >> we all failed him, and I am sure we regret that he is no longer >>>>> >> with >>>> us. >>>>> >> He >>>>> >> >>>>> >> steadfastly believed that only his doctor was right, and he >>>>> >> insisted >>>>> >> on >>>>> >> doing what his doctor recommended and no others. I failed to have >>>>> >> him >>>>> >> chart >>>>> >> >>>>> >> his progress or lack of progress where what was happening could >>>>> >> clearly >>>>> >> be >>>>> >> seen by him and all others who cared to look. Apparently, I have >>>> failed >>>>> >> in the same way. By doing this charting the evidence is >>>>> >> clearly >>>>> >> visible to all, and any experiments in mastery of blood glucose >>>>> >> control >>>>> >> can >>>>> >> be shown to the diabetic, the doctor, the nurse, the spouse, and >>>>> >> any >>>>> >> others >>>>> >> who care to see. Through this method the individual diabetic >>>>> >> learns >>>> who >>>>> >> is >>>>> >> the real authority over one's own body, and it usually comes down >>>>> >> to >>>>> >> be >>>>> >> the >>>>> >> responsibility of a single individual, and you know who that would >>>>> >> be. >>>>> >> It >>>>> >> would be you. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I not only admit that I have failed , but I also admit I am >>>> helpless >>>>> >> to >>>>> >> >>>>> >> make her follow my instructions. When is willing to trust >>>>> >> me, >>>>> >> I >>>> am >>>>> >> willing to try again and again. Until that time comes I do not see >>>>> >> any >>>>> >> way >>>>> >> I can be of service to her and any further recommendations on my >>>>> >> part >>>> are >>>>> >> futile. I do recommend trust the people on this list serve, >>>>> >> for >>>>> >> after >>>>> >> >>>>> >> all it is the folks on this list serve and not my doctors who >>>>> >> taught >>>>> >> me >>>>> >> mastery of blood glucose level control. So in the future I >>>>> >> wish >>>>> >> you >>>>> >> good luck and hopefully you will make good choices. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Lantus does come in pen form. If the pen form of Lantus is not on Canada's formulary, then the doctor cannot prescribe it. So the best solution for dosing Lantus would be for you to have your very own count-a-dose system, which costs around $50-60 USA. Then you could draw your own dose of Lantus from the vile. I failed >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I freely admit that I have failed in her attempts to master >>>>> >> blood >>>>> >> glucose level control. I have failed her in several respects. >>>>> >> First >>>> of >>>>> >> all >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I have failed to gain her trust. In this same respect I have >>>>> >> failed >>>>> >> to >>>>> >> gain >>>>> >> >>>>> >> the trust of her husband. It has been evident for several weeks to >>>>> >> anyone >>>>> >> who cares to make simple observations. When a person can make >>>>> >> simple >>>>> >> experimental recommendations, which are in themselves perfectly >>>>> >> safe >>>> for >>>>> >> another to perform, and yet these simple recommendations are never >>>>> >> carried >>>>> >> out is a definite sign that I am not trusted. I failed to convince >>>> >>>>> >> that she is the primary person that all of her helpers, including >>>>> >> her >>>>> >> doctor, nurse and husband, should listen to her wishes. They >>>>> >> should >>>>> >> accommodate her and not her who accommodate them. I failed to show >>>>> >> how >>>>> >> to >>>>> >> do this. I failed to get to share with her doctors and nurse >>>>> >> my >>>>> >> recommendations I have urged her to do. I failed to have her >>>> understand >>>>> >> that doing experiments in a fish bowl, where every one can see what >>>>> >> is >>>>> >> happening is the safest way to conduct life experimentation. >>>>> >> Keeping >>>> no >>>>> >> secrets amongst all those willing to help is the best way to make >>>>> >> sure >>>>> >> that >>>>> >> one will be safe, and I don't think knows this. While I know >>>> >>>>> >> can count, I still failed to have her count a specific number of >>>>> >> grams >>>> of >>>>> >> carbs of her own choosing and have her stick to it for at least two >>>> days >>>>> >> in >>>>> >> a row. I failed to convince her importance of this simple >>>>> >> procedure. >>>> I >>>>> >> failed to get to believe that she alone is the most important >>>>> >> authority over her body. I am not her authority. Presently, it >>>> appears >>>>> >> that her doctor, nurse and husband are her authorities, not . >>>>> >> I >>>>> >> failed >>>>> >> >>>>> >> to demonstrate to that I am truly a master of my blood >>>>> >> glucose >>>>> >> control, and maybe the fact of over a year of A1C's being at or >>>>> >> below >>>> 5.5 >>>>> >> does not impress her, even though most of my past year and a half >>>>> >> A1C's >>>>> >> were >>>>> >> >>>>> >> 5.3 and lower. I have failed others here, too. Long before Wayne >>>>> >> had >>>>> >> the >>>>> >> first amputation several others and I tried to get him to listen to >>>>> >> us, >>>>> >> but >>>>> >> we all failed him, and I am sure we regret that he is no longer >>>>> >> with >>>> us. >>>>> >> He >>>>> >> >>>>> >> steadfastly believed that only his doctor was right, and he >>>>> >> insisted >>>>> >> on >>>>> >> doing what his doctor recommended and no others. I failed to have >>>>> >> him >>>>> >> chart >>>>> >> >>>>> >> his progress or lack of progress where what was happening could >>>>> >> clearly >>>>> >> be >>>>> >> seen by him and all others who cared to look. Apparently, I have >>>> failed >>>>> >> in the same way. By doing this charting the evidence is >>>>> >> clearly >>>>> >> visible to all, and any experiments in mastery of blood glucose >>>>> >> control >>>>> >> can >>>>> >> be shown to the diabetic, the doctor, the nurse, the spouse, and >>>>> >> any >>>>> >> others >>>>> >> who care to see. Through this method the individual diabetic >>>>> >> learns >>>> who >>>>> >> is >>>>> >> the real authority over one's own body, and it usually comes down >>>>> >> to >>>>> >> be >>>>> >> the >>>>> >> responsibility of a single individual, and you know who that would >>>>> >> be. >>>>> >> It >>>>> >> would be you. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I not only admit that I have failed , but I also admit I am >>>> helpless >>>>> >> to >>>>> >> >>>>> >> make her follow my instructions. When is willing to trust >>>>> >> me, >>>>> >> I >>>> am >>>>> >> willing to try again and again. Until that time comes I do not see >>>>> >> any >>>>> >> way >>>>> >> I can be of service to her and any further recommendations on my >>>>> >> part >>>> are >>>>> >> futile. I do recommend trust the people on this list serve, >>>>> >> for >>>>> >> after >>>>> >> >>>>> >> all it is the folks on this list serve and not my doctors who >>>>> >> taught >>>>> >> me >>>>> >> mastery of blood glucose level control. So in the future I >>>>> >> wish >>>>> >> you >>>>> >> good luck and hopefully you will make good choices. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Hi , I'm in Canada as well and am trying to obtain a Count-a-Dose so that I can measure my own Lantus. I've talked to both my doctor and pharmacy and neither of them knew what I was talking about. The pharmacy says if I can find the company which manufactures it they may be able to order it for me, so that may work for you as well if you can find a pharmacy and the manufacturer for the Count-a-Dose. So far all I've been able to find are destributers, not manufacturers. I may just give in and order it online, although the cost would likely be much higher. Lantus just got approved in Canada a few months ago, which may be why it took so long for you to get it. I know people who have used it for over a year here but they got it from the U.S. before it was approved here. My doctor told me of it months before it was approved and available and switched me to it as soon as it was approved, because of the benefits of Lantus over NPH. Also, there is now Lantus available in pens in the U.S. so here's hoping it will come to Canada soon. Good luck getting the Count-a-Dose and taking control! Right now I get my mom to measure my Lantus for me and she will dose whatever I ask her to. Except for the first month or so after I was diagnosed the dosing of insulin has always been our (first my mom's, then my) responsibility. Is it possible for you to get someone else rather than a nurse to measure your Lantus? I can't imagine having to lie just to get it lowered by one unit, that should be your decision not a doctor's. When I go to my doctor the first question he asks before even looking at my readings is whether my rapid- and long-acting doses have changed because he knows that diabetes is primarily a patient-managed disease, not a doctor-managed one. He might make some changes or suggestion but he also knows that by the next visit I may have changed them again. Good luck! Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Hi , I'm in Canada as well and am trying to obtain a Count-a-Dose so that I can measure my own Lantus. I've talked to both my doctor and pharmacy and neither of them knew what I was talking about. The pharmacy says if I can find the company which manufactures it they may be able to order it for me, so that may work for you as well if you can find a pharmacy and the manufacturer for the Count-a-Dose. So far all I've been able to find are destributers, not manufacturers. I may just give in and order it online, although the cost would likely be much higher. Lantus just got approved in Canada a few months ago, which may be why it took so long for you to get it. I know people who have used it for over a year here but they got it from the U.S. before it was approved here. My doctor told me of it months before it was approved and available and switched me to it as soon as it was approved, because of the benefits of Lantus over NPH. Also, there is now Lantus available in pens in the U.S. so here's hoping it will come to Canada soon. Good luck getting the Count-a-Dose and taking control! Right now I get my mom to measure my Lantus for me and she will dose whatever I ask her to. Except for the first month or so after I was diagnosed the dosing of insulin has always been our (first my mom's, then my) responsibility. Is it possible for you to get someone else rather than a nurse to measure your Lantus? I can't imagine having to lie just to get it lowered by one unit, that should be your decision not a doctor's. When I go to my doctor the first question he asks before even looking at my readings is whether my rapid- and long-acting doses have changed because he knows that diabetes is primarily a patient-managed disease, not a doctor-managed one. He might make some changes or suggestion but he also knows that by the next visit I may have changed them again. Good luck! Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Hi , I'm in Canada as well and am trying to obtain a Count-a-Dose so that I can measure my own Lantus. I've talked to both my doctor and pharmacy and neither of them knew what I was talking about. The pharmacy says if I can find the company which manufactures it they may be able to order it for me, so that may work for you as well if you can find a pharmacy and the manufacturer for the Count-a-Dose. So far all I've been able to find are destributers, not manufacturers. I may just give in and order it online, although the cost would likely be much higher. Lantus just got approved in Canada a few months ago, which may be why it took so long for you to get it. I know people who have used it for over a year here but they got it from the U.S. before it was approved here. My doctor told me of it months before it was approved and available and switched me to it as soon as it was approved, because of the benefits of Lantus over NPH. Also, there is now Lantus available in pens in the U.S. so here's hoping it will come to Canada soon. Good luck getting the Count-a-Dose and taking control! Right now I get my mom to measure my Lantus for me and she will dose whatever I ask her to. Except for the first month or so after I was diagnosed the dosing of insulin has always been our (first my mom's, then my) responsibility. Is it possible for you to get someone else rather than a nurse to measure your Lantus? I can't imagine having to lie just to get it lowered by one unit, that should be your decision not a doctor's. When I go to my doctor the first question he asks before even looking at my readings is whether my rapid- and long-acting doses have changed because he knows that diabetes is primarily a patient-managed disease, not a doctor-managed one. He might make some changes or suggestion but he also knows that by the next visit I may have changed them again. Good luck! Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Right. You can also purchase the Count-a-Dose from the National Federation of the Blind's (NFB's) Aids and Appliances store. Go to http://www.nfb.org and select " Aids and Appliances " from the first combo box and hit the " go " button. Mike Freeman > The count-a-dose dosing system is sold by a private business called Maxy > aides. If the government of Canada does not stock this device in their > medical supplies, then the doctor is powerless to give it to you. However > you can purchase it on your own with your own money. > I failed >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I freely admit that I have failed in her attempts to master >>>>>>> blood >>>>>>> glucose level control. I have failed her in several respects. >>>>>>> First >>>> of >>>>>>> all >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have failed to gain her trust. In this same respect I have failed >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> gain >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the trust of her husband. It has been evident for several weeks to >>>>>>> anyone >>>>>>> who cares to make simple observations. When a person can make >>>>>>> simple >>>>>>> experimental recommendations, which are in themselves perfectly safe >>>> for >>>>>>> another to perform, and yet these simple recommendations are never >>>>>>> carried >>>>>>> out is a definite sign that I am not trusted. I failed to convince >>>> >>>>>>> that she is the primary person that all of her helpers, including >>>>>>> her >>>>>>> doctor, nurse and husband, should listen to her wishes. They should >>>>>>> accommodate her and not her who accommodate them. I failed to show >>>>>>> how >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> do this. I failed to get to share with her doctors and nurse >>>>>>> my >>>>>>> recommendations I have urged her to do. I failed to have her >>>> understand >>>>>>> that doing experiments in a fish bowl, where every one can see what >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> happening is the safest way to conduct life experimentation. >>>>>>> Keeping >>>> no >>>>>>> secrets amongst all those willing to help is the best way to make >>>>>>> sure >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> one will be safe, and I don't think knows this. While I know >>>> >>>>>>> can count, I still failed to have her count a specific number of >>>>>>> grams >>>> of >>>>>>> carbs of her own choosing and have her stick to it for at least two >>>> days >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> a row. I failed to convince her importance of this simple >>>>>>> procedure. >>>> I >>>>>>> failed to get to believe that she alone is the most important >>>>>>> authority over her body. I am not her authority. Presently, it >>>> appears >>>>>>> that her doctor, nurse and husband are her authorities, not . >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> failed >>>>>>> >>>>>>> to demonstrate to that I am truly a master of my blood glucose >>>>>>> control, and maybe the fact of over a year of A1C's being at or >>>>>>> below >>>> 5.5 >>>>>>> does not impress her, even though most of my past year and a half >>>>>>> A1C's >>>>>>> were >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 5.3 and lower. I have failed others here, too. Long before Wayne >>>>>>> had >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> first amputation several others and I tried to get him to listen to >>>>>>> us, >>>>>>> but >>>>>>> we all failed him, and I am sure we regret that he is no longer with >>>> us. >>>>>>> He >>>>>>> >>>>>>> steadfastly believed that only his doctor was right, and he insisted >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> doing what his doctor recommended and no others. I failed to have >>>>>>> him >>>>>>> chart >>>>>>> >>>>>>> his progress or lack of progress where what was happening could >>>>>>> clearly >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> seen by him and all others who cared to look. Apparently, I have >>>> failed >>>>>>> in the same way. By doing this charting the evidence is >>>>>>> clearly >>>>>>> visible to all, and any experiments in mastery of blood glucose >>>>>>> control >>>>>>> can >>>>>>> be shown to the diabetic, the doctor, the nurse, the spouse, and any >>>>>>> others >>>>>>> who care to see. Through this method the individual diabetic learns >>>> who >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> the real authority over one's own body, and it usually comes down to >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> responsibility of a single individual, and you know who that would >>>>>>> be. >>>>>>> It >>>>>>> would be you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I not only admit that I have failed , but I also admit I am >>>> helpless >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> >>>>>>> make her follow my instructions. When is willing to trust me, >>>>>>> I >>>> am >>>>>>> willing to try again and again. Until that time comes I do not see >>>>>>> any >>>>>>> way >>>>>>> I can be of service to her and any further recommendations on my >>>>>>> part >>>> are >>>>>>> futile. I do recommend trust the people on this list serve, >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> after >>>>>>> >>>>>>> all it is the folks on this list serve and not my doctors who taught >>>>>>> me >>>>>>> mastery of blood glucose level control. So in the future I >>>>>>> wish >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> good luck and hopefully you will make good choices. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 : You can use the Count-a-Dose to measure your lantis. However, this is not necessary. Dunno about Canada but lantis *does* come in a pen in the U.S.A. It's new -- like in the last three months. Also, I know that someone Down Under (Australia) is using a lantis pen. Mike Freeman > Harry, the supplier of lantis is not one of the doctors regular suppliers. I > gave him the companies phone number and I know I have called them many times > and you do get a run around. I have been trying to get lantus for a long > time now. and I thank god I finally have it. nothing move quickly here and > that is truth. if I could administer the lantus myself I would have > control. why the heck would a manufacturer not make it in pen forum? all the > insulin's come this way. it drives me crazy but it is something we have to > deal with. I will try calling the supplier again today. but in the past they > will not be doing anything for me because you have to be a doctor. so I will > just complain. but I am just one person. I do not know what else I can do? > > > I failed >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I freely admit that I have failed in her attempts to master >>>>>>> blood >>>>>>> glucose level control. I have failed her in several respects. >>>>>>> First >>>> of >>>>>>> all >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have failed to gain her trust. In this same respect I have failed >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> gain >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the trust of her husband. It has been evident for several weeks to >>>>>>> anyone >>>>>>> who cares to make simple observations. When a person can make >>>>>>> simple >>>>>>> experimental recommendations, which are in themselves perfectly safe >>>> for >>>>>>> another to perform, and yet these simple recommendations are never >>>>>>> carried >>>>>>> out is a definite sign that I am not trusted. I failed to convince >>>> >>>>>>> that she is the primary person that all of her helpers, including >>>>>>> her >>>>>>> doctor, nurse and husband, should listen to her wishes. They should >>>>>>> accommodate her and not her who accommodate them. I failed to show >>>>>>> how >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> do this. I failed to get to share with her doctors and nurse >>>>>>> my >>>>>>> recommendations I have urged her to do. I failed to have her >>>> understand >>>>>>> that doing experiments in a fish bowl, where every one can see what >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> happening is the safest way to conduct life experimentation. >>>>>>> Keeping >>>> no >>>>>>> secrets amongst all those willing to help is the best way to make >>>>>>> sure >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> one will be safe, and I don't think knows this. While I know >>>> >>>>>>> can count, I still failed to have her count a specific number of >>>>>>> grams >>>> of >>>>>>> carbs of her own choosing and have her stick to it for at least two >>>> days >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> a row. I failed to convince her importance of this simple >>>>>>> procedure. >>>> I >>>>>>> failed to get to believe that she alone is the most important >>>>>>> authority over her body. I am not her authority. Presently, it >>>> appears >>>>>>> that her doctor, nurse and husband are her authorities, not . >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> failed >>>>>>> >>>>>>> to demonstrate to that I am truly a master of my blood glucose >>>>>>> control, and maybe the fact of over a year of A1C's being at or >>>>>>> below >>>> 5.5 >>>>>>> does not impress her, even though most of my past year and a half >>>>>>> A1C's >>>>>>> were >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 5.3 and lower. I have failed others here, too. Long before Wayne >>>>>>> had >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> first amputation several others and I tried to get him to listen to >>>>>>> us, >>>>>>> but >>>>>>> we all failed him, and I am sure we regret that he is no longer with >>>> us. >>>>>>> He >>>>>>> >>>>>>> steadfastly believed that only his doctor was right, and he insisted >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> doing what his doctor recommended and no others. I failed to have >>>>>>> him >>>>>>> chart >>>>>>> >>>>>>> his progress or lack of progress where what was happening could >>>>>>> clearly >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> seen by him and all others who cared to look. Apparently, I have >>>> failed >>>>>>> in the same way. By doing this charting the evidence is >>>>>>> clearly >>>>>>> visible to all, and any experiments in mastery of blood glucose >>>>>>> control >>>>>>> can >>>>>>> be shown to the diabetic, the doctor, the nurse, the spouse, and any >>>>>>> others >>>>>>> who care to see. Through this method the individual diabetic learns >>>> who >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> the real authority over one's own body, and it usually comes down to >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> responsibility of a single individual, and you know who that would >>>>>>> be. >>>>>>> It >>>>>>> would be you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I not only admit that I have failed , but I also admit I am >>>> helpless >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> >>>>>>> make her follow my instructions. When is willing to trust me, >>>>>>> I >>>> am >>>>>>> willing to try again and again. Until that time comes I do not see >>>>>>> any >>>>>>> way >>>>>>> I can be of service to her and any further recommendations on my >>>>>>> part >>>> are >>>>>>> futile. I do recommend trust the people on this list serve, >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> after >>>>>>> >>>>>>> all it is the folks on this list serve and not my doctors who taught >>>>>>> me >>>>>>> mastery of blood glucose level control. So in the future I >>>>>>> wish >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> good luck and hopefully you will make good choices. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 the Count-a-Dose costs $40 U.S. from the National Federation of the Blind. Mike Freeman > Lantus does come in pen form. If the pen form of Lantus is not on Canada's > formulary, then the doctor cannot prescribe it. So the best solution for > dosing Lantus would be for you to have your very own count-a-dose system, > which costs around $50-60 USA. Then you could draw your own dose of Lantus > from the vile. > I failed >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I freely admit that I have failed in her attempts to master >>>>>>>> blood >>>>>>>> glucose level control. I have failed her in several respects. >>>>>>>> First >>>>> of >>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have failed to gain her trust. In this same respect I have >>>>>>>> failed >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> gain >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the trust of her husband. It has been evident for several weeks to >>>>>>>> anyone >>>>>>>> who cares to make simple observations. When a person can make >>>>>>>> simple >>>>>>>> experimental recommendations, which are in themselves perfectly >>>>>>>> safe >>>>> for >>>>>>>> another to perform, and yet these simple recommendations are never >>>>>>>> carried >>>>>>>> out is a definite sign that I am not trusted. I failed to convince >>>>> >>>>>>>> that she is the primary person that all of her helpers, including >>>>>>>> her >>>>>>>> doctor, nurse and husband, should listen to her wishes. They >>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>> accommodate her and not her who accommodate them. I failed to show >>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> do this. I failed to get to share with her doctors and nurse >>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>> recommendations I have urged her to do. I failed to have her >>>>> understand >>>>>>>> that doing experiments in a fish bowl, where every one can see what >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> happening is the safest way to conduct life experimentation. >>>>>>>> Keeping >>>>> no >>>>>>>> secrets amongst all those willing to help is the best way to make >>>>>>>> sure >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> one will be safe, and I don't think knows this. While I know >>>>> >>>>>>>> can count, I still failed to have her count a specific number of >>>>>>>> grams >>>>> of >>>>>>>> carbs of her own choosing and have her stick to it for at least two >>>>> days >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> a row. I failed to convince her importance of this simple >>>>>>>> procedure. >>>>> I >>>>>>>> failed to get to believe that she alone is the most important >>>>>>>> authority over her body. I am not her authority. Presently, it >>>>> appears >>>>>>>> that her doctor, nurse and husband are her authorities, not . >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> failed >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> to demonstrate to that I am truly a master of my blood >>>>>>>> glucose >>>>>>>> control, and maybe the fact of over a year of A1C's being at or >>>>>>>> below >>>>> 5.5 >>>>>>>> does not impress her, even though most of my past year and a half >>>>>>>> A1C's >>>>>>>> were >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 5.3 and lower. I have failed others here, too. Long before Wayne >>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> first amputation several others and I tried to get him to listen to >>>>>>>> us, >>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>> we all failed him, and I am sure we regret that he is no longer >>>>>>>> with >>>>> us. >>>>>>>> He >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> steadfastly believed that only his doctor was right, and he >>>>>>>> insisted >>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>> doing what his doctor recommended and no others. I failed to have >>>>>>>> him >>>>>>>> chart >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> his progress or lack of progress where what was happening could >>>>>>>> clearly >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> seen by him and all others who cared to look. Apparently, I have >>>>> failed >>>>>>>> in the same way. By doing this charting the evidence is >>>>>>>> clearly >>>>>>>> visible to all, and any experiments in mastery of blood glucose >>>>>>>> control >>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>> be shown to the diabetic, the doctor, the nurse, the spouse, and >>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>> others >>>>>>>> who care to see. Through this method the individual diabetic >>>>>>>> learns >>>>> who >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> the real authority over one's own body, and it usually comes down >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> responsibility of a single individual, and you know who that would >>>>>>>> be. >>>>>>>> It >>>>>>>> would be you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I not only admit that I have failed , but I also admit I am >>>>> helpless >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> make her follow my instructions. When is willing to trust >>>>>>>> me, >>>>>>>> I >>>>> am >>>>>>>> willing to try again and again. Until that time comes I do not see >>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>> way >>>>>>>> I can be of service to her and any further recommendations on my >>>>>>>> part >>>>> are >>>>>>>> futile. I do recommend trust the people on this list serve, >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> after >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> all it is the folks on this list serve and not my doctors who >>>>>>>> taught >>>>>>>> me >>>>>>>> mastery of blood glucose level control. So in the future I >>>>>>>> wish >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> good luck and hopefully you will make good choices. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Getting it from the National Federation for the blind seems to be a better deal. I failed >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I freely admit that I have failed in her attempts to master >>>>>>>>> blood >>>>>>>>> glucose level control. I have failed her in several respects. >>>>>>>>> First >>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have failed to gain her trust. In this same respect I have >>>>>>>>> failed >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> gain >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the trust of her husband. It has been evident for several weeks >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> anyone >>>>>>>>> who cares to make simple observations. When a person can make >>>>>>>>> simple >>>>>>>>> experimental recommendations, which are in themselves perfectly >>>>>>>>> safe >>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> another to perform, and yet these simple recommendations are never >>>>>>>>> carried >>>>>>>>> out is a definite sign that I am not trusted. I failed to >>>>>>>>> convince >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> that she is the primary person that all of her helpers, including >>>>>>>>> her >>>>>>>>> doctor, nurse and husband, should listen to her wishes. They >>>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>>> accommodate her and not her who accommodate them. I failed to >>>>>>>>> show >>>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> do this. I failed to get to share with her doctors and >>>>>>>>> nurse >>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>> recommendations I have urged her to do. I failed to have her >>>>>> understand >>>>>>>>> that doing experiments in a fish bowl, where every one can see >>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> happening is the safest way to conduct life experimentation. >>>>>>>>> Keeping >>>>>> no >>>>>>>>> secrets amongst all those willing to help is the best way to make >>>>>>>>> sure >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> one will be safe, and I don't think knows this. While I >>>>>>>>> know >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> can count, I still failed to have her count a specific number of >>>>>>>>> grams >>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> carbs of her own choosing and have her stick to it for at least >>>>>>>>> two >>>>>> days >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> a row. I failed to convince her importance of this simple >>>>>>>>> procedure. >>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> failed to get to believe that she alone is the most >>>>>>>>> important >>>>>>>>> authority over her body. I am not her authority. Presently, it >>>>>> appears >>>>>>>>> that her doctor, nurse and husband are her authorities, not . >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> failed >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> to demonstrate to that I am truly a master of my blood >>>>>>>>> glucose >>>>>>>>> control, and maybe the fact of over a year of A1C's being at or >>>>>>>>> below >>>>>> 5.5 >>>>>>>>> does not impress her, even though most of my past year and a half >>>>>>>>> A1C's >>>>>>>>> were >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 5.3 and lower. I have failed others here, too. Long before Wayne >>>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> first amputation several others and I tried to get him to listen >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> us, >>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>> we all failed him, and I am sure we regret that he is no longer >>>>>>>>> with >>>>>> us. >>>>>>>>> He >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> steadfastly believed that only his doctor was right, and he >>>>>>>>> insisted >>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>> doing what his doctor recommended and no others. I failed to have >>>>>>>>> him >>>>>>>>> chart >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> his progress or lack of progress where what was happening could >>>>>>>>> clearly >>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>> seen by him and all others who cared to look. Apparently, I have >>>>>> failed >>>>>>>>> in the same way. By doing this charting the evidence is >>>>>>>>> clearly >>>>>>>>> visible to all, and any experiments in mastery of blood glucose >>>>>>>>> control >>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>> be shown to the diabetic, the doctor, the nurse, the spouse, and >>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>> others >>>>>>>>> who care to see. Through this method the individual diabetic >>>>>>>>> learns >>>>>> who >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> the real authority over one's own body, and it usually comes down >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> responsibility of a single individual, and you know who that would >>>>>>>>> be. >>>>>>>>> It >>>>>>>>> would be you. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I not only admit that I have failed , but I also admit I am >>>>>> helpless >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> make her follow my instructions. When is willing to trust >>>>>>>>> me, >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>> am >>>>>>>>> willing to try again and again. Until that time comes I do not >>>>>>>>> see >>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>> way >>>>>>>>> I can be of service to her and any further recommendations on my >>>>>>>>> part >>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> futile. I do recommend trust the people on this list serve, >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> after >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> all it is the folks on this list serve and not my doctors who >>>>>>>>> taught >>>>>>>>> me >>>>>>>>> mastery of blood glucose level control. So in the future I >>>>>>>>> wish >>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> good luck and hopefully you will make good choices. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 jen, I took my log book that the nurse records the readings. and since I do so many more readings I log them on the computer and took a print out of it as well. he took two calls about other patients while he was talking to me during my scheduled visit and I think he was a little flustered. maybe having a bad day. I never thought of calling the blind association about it. I had called several pharmacies who now stock it. even got them to call the doctor to tell him it was in. it was approved in Canada well over two years ago. it was even written up in the nurses medial book before it was on the market. Re: I failed > Hi , > > I'm in Canada as well and am trying to obtain a Count-a-Dose so that I can > measure my own Lantus. I've talked to both my doctor and pharmacy and > neither of them knew what I was talking about. The pharmacy says if I can > find the company which manufactures it they may be able to order it for > me, > so that may work for you as well if you can find a pharmacy and the > manufacturer for the Count-a-Dose. So far all I've been able to find are > destributers, not manufacturers. I may just give in and order it online, > although the cost would likely be much higher. > > Lantus just got approved in Canada a few months ago, which may be why it > took so long for you to get it. I know people who have used it for over a > year here but they got it from the U.S. before it was approved here. My > doctor told me of it months before it was approved and available and > switched me to it as soon as it was approved, because of the benefits of > Lantus over NPH. Also, there is now Lantus available in pens in the U.S. > so > here's hoping it will come to Canada soon. > > Good luck getting the Count-a-Dose and taking control! Right now I get my > mom to measure my Lantus for me and she will dose whatever I ask her to. > Except for the first month or so after I was diagnosed the dosing of > insulin > has always been our (first my mom's, then my) responsibility. Is it > possible > for you to get someone else rather than a nurse to measure your Lantus? I > can't imagine having to lie just to get it lowered by one unit, that > should > be your decision not a doctor's. When I go to my doctor the first question > he asks before even looking at my readings is whether my rapid- and > long-acting doses have changed because he knows that diabetes is primarily > a > patient-managed disease, not a doctor-managed one. He might make some > changes or suggestion but he also knows that by the next visit I may have > changed them again. > > Good luck! > > Jen > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 jen, I took my log book that the nurse records the readings. and since I do so many more readings I log them on the computer and took a print out of it as well. he took two calls about other patients while he was talking to me during my scheduled visit and I think he was a little flustered. maybe having a bad day. I never thought of calling the blind association about it. I had called several pharmacies who now stock it. even got them to call the doctor to tell him it was in. it was approved in Canada well over two years ago. it was even written up in the nurses medial book before it was on the market. Re: I failed > Hi , > > I'm in Canada as well and am trying to obtain a Count-a-Dose so that I can > measure my own Lantus. I've talked to both my doctor and pharmacy and > neither of them knew what I was talking about. The pharmacy says if I can > find the company which manufactures it they may be able to order it for > me, > so that may work for you as well if you can find a pharmacy and the > manufacturer for the Count-a-Dose. So far all I've been able to find are > destributers, not manufacturers. I may just give in and order it online, > although the cost would likely be much higher. > > Lantus just got approved in Canada a few months ago, which may be why it > took so long for you to get it. I know people who have used it for over a > year here but they got it from the U.S. before it was approved here. My > doctor told me of it months before it was approved and available and > switched me to it as soon as it was approved, because of the benefits of > Lantus over NPH. Also, there is now Lantus available in pens in the U.S. > so > here's hoping it will come to Canada soon. > > Good luck getting the Count-a-Dose and taking control! Right now I get my > mom to measure my Lantus for me and she will dose whatever I ask her to. > Except for the first month or so after I was diagnosed the dosing of > insulin > has always been our (first my mom's, then my) responsibility. Is it > possible > for you to get someone else rather than a nurse to measure your Lantus? I > can't imagine having to lie just to get it lowered by one unit, that > should > be your decision not a doctor's. When I go to my doctor the first question > he asks before even looking at my readings is whether my rapid- and > long-acting doses have changed because he knows that diabetes is primarily > a > patient-managed disease, not a doctor-managed one. He might make some > changes or suggestion but he also knows that by the next visit I may have > changed them again. > > Good luck! > > Jen > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 jen, I took my log book that the nurse records the readings. and since I do so many more readings I log them on the computer and took a print out of it as well. he took two calls about other patients while he was talking to me during my scheduled visit and I think he was a little flustered. maybe having a bad day. I never thought of calling the blind association about it. I had called several pharmacies who now stock it. even got them to call the doctor to tell him it was in. it was approved in Canada well over two years ago. it was even written up in the nurses medial book before it was on the market. Re: I failed > Hi , > > I'm in Canada as well and am trying to obtain a Count-a-Dose so that I can > measure my own Lantus. I've talked to both my doctor and pharmacy and > neither of them knew what I was talking about. The pharmacy says if I can > find the company which manufactures it they may be able to order it for > me, > so that may work for you as well if you can find a pharmacy and the > manufacturer for the Count-a-Dose. So far all I've been able to find are > destributers, not manufacturers. I may just give in and order it online, > although the cost would likely be much higher. > > Lantus just got approved in Canada a few months ago, which may be why it > took so long for you to get it. I know people who have used it for over a > year here but they got it from the U.S. before it was approved here. My > doctor told me of it months before it was approved and available and > switched me to it as soon as it was approved, because of the benefits of > Lantus over NPH. Also, there is now Lantus available in pens in the U.S. > so > here's hoping it will come to Canada soon. > > Good luck getting the Count-a-Dose and taking control! Right now I get my > mom to measure my Lantus for me and she will dose whatever I ask her to. > Except for the first month or so after I was diagnosed the dosing of > insulin > has always been our (first my mom's, then my) responsibility. Is it > possible > for you to get someone else rather than a nurse to measure your Lantus? I > can't imagine having to lie just to get it lowered by one unit, that > should > be your decision not a doctor's. When I go to my doctor the first question > he asks before even looking at my readings is whether my rapid- and > long-acting doses have changed because he knows that diabetes is primarily > a > patient-managed disease, not a doctor-managed one. He might make some > changes or suggestion but he also knows that by the next visit I may have > changed them again. > > Good luck! > > Jen > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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