Guest guest Posted December 20, 2004 Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 Hi all. Thanksgiving I posted a message cautioning folks to watch carbs. How many actually did? Probably not many but some I'm certain did. In addition, some seemed bummed out by me cautioning them on the carbs. So, this Christmas post/warning I'm going to teach you how to cheat some if you are using humalog insulin or novalog. If you are not, don't bother cheating it won't work! You'll just be high sugared. We have turkey and ham for Christmas and all the other carb infested foods: pies, cookies, candy, rolls, mashed potatoes, green bean casserole, and on and on the devilish food goes *grin*. I load up on turkey and green beans and find the lowest carb bread around, normally my 6 grams a slice bread with butter on it, and I will do my best to limit myself to 60 grams of carbs and no more. Of course, that is with dosing humalog to cover the 60 grams of carbs. Type twos don't even think of it or you'll be running your rear off for 1 hour or more to burn off just 60 grams and still be high and feel like crap. If I eat more than 60 grams, here is what I do... I'll have to do my routine of " total carbs divided by 15 times 2 units of H per 15 " .... then tag on 6 more units to grow on *grin*. So I tag on 6 units extra to cover the carbs but in order to tag on 6 more units, I have to eat at least 90 grams or more. Then I do a two hour post meal test and if am running low I pop 2 or 3 glucose tabs and am done with it and got some holiday goodies too. So, to rcap, if I am going to tag on 6 extra units of H, I have to eat at least 90 grams of carbs to do it. Other than that, I keep it 60 grams or less and stick with my normal mathematical equation that works. I.E total carbs, divided by 15, times 2 units of H per 15 grams. Not recommended for the newbie or those just starting out using humalog and carb counting. However, after a while, you learn to manipulate the system some and *occasionally* enjoy some carb foods. I still say, stick as close to 30 to 60 grams of carbs as possible though even if eating a little more carbs and dosing humalog. If you skip the two hour post meal test then bye bye nice knowing you. I can just see it happen... someone on list here reads this, says I'm going to try it, and then at holidays folks get involved in family talk, doing this or that, lose track of time, next thing you know they are passed out on the floor with a piece of pumpkin pie in their hand loll. I'm not kidding, set an alarm on your watch for 2 hours past the time you dosed the humalog or novalog. When it goes off, stop whatever you are doing and check your sugar! Some holiday ball park carb counts: * any piece of *normal* size pie or cake 30 grams * half cup of icecream around 20 grams * 3 normal sized *round* cookies 30 grams * 1 cup of mashed potatos 40 grams * 1 roll 12 to 20 grams based on the size of it. * half cup of corn 20 grams * chocolate... risky but... if you have ever ate a bite sized snickers piece that has 5 grams in it. 1 hershey kiss has 5 grams in it, and so on. So, you can size your piece of chocolate based off a hershey kiss, for example, and then count the carbs *roughly* and then do a 2 hour post meal test. Even more important than this... have someone sighted tell you the carbs in the foods you are going to eat off the bag... just make certain they read it correctly or your dead/a goner! Note: if you eat a normal sized candy bar, they normally have around 30 to 35 grams of carbs in it. Normal meaning kit kat, m & m's, snickers bar, and so on. Not the giant sized, just the normal sized bar you would purchase at a store. Do any of this at your own risk! If you pass out, it's because you misjudged the carbs, didn't do a two hour post meal test,and you passed out from not following guidelines. BTW I'd say if this will be your first time doing this, do a 1 hour post meal test, 2 hour post meal test,and a 3 hour post meal test just to catch any possible lows. Remember, large numbers, large mistakes, small numbers, small mistakes! You want to play? You have to pay the piper on your finger tips *grin*. Also, if you don't use humalog or novalog don't even bother trying to cheat you'll just be high sugared. A final warning is you could pass out from doing this so do it at your own risk! Normally my 2 hour post meal tests are around 75 and then my 2.5 is at 45 and my 3 hour is at 30. How do I know? I tested my body under super vision to see what my curve would be like with large doses of humalog. Be aware that using large doses of humalog or novalog can cause the effect of it to go on clear up through 3 hours. So, you really think it is worth it after reading all this? If so, go have fun and if you pass out, you were warned! Finally, why do I post this? Because last time some folks seemed bummed out when I encouraged them to bac off carbs and watch them at thanksgiving. If you were bummed by my post, how do you feel about this one me posting how to cheat and risk your life? All this is really to just simply say its easier to watch the carbs and limit them! Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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