Re: IE / EFT posts

[Guest guest]

Eileen,

Glad to have you with us! And, no worries... this IS a support group

for Intuitive Eating. ;o)

Jenn

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> I've been lurking for a while and this is my first post. I'm

grateful for the IE approach, because I believe it is literally

saving my life.

> I've found myself wondering if this is an EFT group or an IE

group. > In fact, all the stuff going around about EFT and other

ways to lose weight has made me uncomfortable and I'm considering

dropping out of the group.

> I'm not saying don't ever mention another approach, but just

briefly comment on it and ask people to correspond offline with you

if they have further questions.

[Guest guest]

Eileen,

Glad to have you with us! And, no worries... this IS a support group

for Intuitive Eating. ;o)

Jenn

<><

> I've been lurking for a while and this is my first post. I'm

grateful for the IE approach, because I believe it is literally

saving my life.

> I've found myself wondering if this is an EFT group or an IE

group. > In fact, all the stuff going around about EFT and other

ways to lose weight has made me uncomfortable and I'm considering

dropping out of the group.

> I'm not saying don't ever mention another approach, but just

briefly comment on it and ask people to correspond offline with you

if they have further questions.

[Guest guest]

I agree with Eileen. I have a 12-step background and prefer to participate

in discussion that's focused on the main mission of the group. For me,

talking about specific objects of allegiance such as EFT and specific

religions -- no matter what religion -- divides people instead of bringing

them together. At least I feel it as a divisive effect when someone talks

about a religion that I do not follow or an approach (such as EFT,

low-carb, etc.) that I haven't seen as helpful. When this type of thing is

discussed, there will always be someone who is selected out.

If we talked about, say, meditation (beyond a mention of the subject), I

would be able to identify, but someone else would not, and they would be

selected out.

I like this group so far, but thought I should be honest and add my

perspective. Like Eileen, I need a support group for this type of non-diet

approach to eating. This is the only one I found on Yahoo that looked like

it was fairly active.

Thanks!

Sue

Portland, Maine, US

Original Message:

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From: Eileen Gannon ecg31486@...

Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:58:21 -0700 (PDT)

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Subject: IE / EFT posts

Hi everyone,

I've been lurking for a while and this is my first post. I'm grateful for

the IE approach, because I believe it is literally saving my life.

In 12-step programs, they have a tradition of not discussing outside issues

in meetings, but rather sticking to the topic at hand and talking about the

particular issue after the meeting. Mabe we could try that? If you have

something you want to talk about that doesn't relate to the IE process,

even though it may compliment IE, maybe offline discussions might be a

better way to handle it. I've found myself wondering if this is an EFT

group or an IE group. Personally, I've researched EFT, while it looks and

sounds like it could complement IE, it definitely has a new-age feel to it,

for those who like that approach. On his website he says he uses " A Course

in Miracles " by nne on, a noted New Age author. Personally, I

am not comfortable with that approach. I prefer an approach that is

secular and can be used by anyone of any faith or no faith, which is what

IE is. Craig, founder of EFT, is an ordained minister, but his church

is what would be

considered a " new-age " church, not someone in the traditional Christian

faith tradition. Even if he were an ordained Christian minister, or Muslim

imam, or Jewish rabbi, I'm not so sure endorsement of his product is

appropriate in this group.

In fact, all the stuff going around about EFT and other ways to lose weight

has made me uncomfortable and I'm considering dropping out of the group.

After researching all the books/methods that have been mentioned in this

posting, it seems they all rither endorse a diet in some form, or are

affiliated with a particular religious tradition (new age, christian,

etc.), or just say that you can " pull yourself up by your bootstraps by

doing X, Y and Z. Those approaches have never worked for me. And after

struggling with my weight for 20 years, I need the IE approach. In my

view, these approaches are outside issues and probably should be discussed

offline. I have no objection to a religious approach, as I am a woman of

faith. However, I think that I would

correspond offline with someone to discuss that particular approach and

how I can incorporate it into the IE approach. I'm not saying don't ever

mention another approach, but just briefly comment on it and ask people to

correspond offline with you if they have further questions.

I really need this group, because it helps me remember to focus on the IE

approach. I've tried South Beach, Atkins, OA, etc. etc. And nothing has

worked. For me, IE is a last resort in trying to recover from my food

struggles, as well as the issues that are behind the food. In some ways,

IE is harder because it forces me to begin to trust myself and my choices,

and not to rely on 1 cup of this and 3 oz. of that and 1 tblsp. of the

next, all of which, to me, are the diet mentality, and never really get to

the core of my issues with overeating.

My intention on posting this is just to give feedback how I feel as a

newbie to the IE approach and posts I've seen recently. I'd really

like to stick to the IE approach because nothing - NOTHING - else has

worked consistently over the past 20 years. I've always gained back the

weight, and IE really is my last-ditch effort. I really believe my life is

at stake - physically, emotionally, and spiritually. I don't want to die

from complications of being 100 lbs. overweight. And I am open to hearng

about another approach, but I don't want it promoted ad nauseum in these

posts. Just mention it briefly in your post and ask people to reply only

to you if I'm interested.

Thanks for listening.

Eileen

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[Guest guest]

I don't know anything about EFT, so I can't speak about that

specifically. But I wanted to post that I don't think it's a good

idea to get too focused about being 100% on topic when it comes to

IE. I have been doing this since last July, and I am fairly certain

I wouldn't have made anywhere near as much progess as I had if I only

focused on IE.

I have gotten most of my support through a different online group,

and we discuss all aspects of conscious eating and conscious living.

Without the conscious living part, I think there is a good chance

that I would be on another diet right now. I can't speak for

everyone, but it has been really vital for me to take a whole life

perspective on this issue. My issues go so much deeper than food.

While I believe that intuitive eating is an extremely important part

of the puzzle, it's not the whole puzzle.

Two authors that have really helped me on this journey are Eckhart

Tolle and Pema Chodron. Neither of them say anything about intuitive

eating, but their insight has helped me tremendously with intuitive

eating. And I wouldn't have learned about them without my online

group.

I am just urging you to keep an open mind about posts that may seem

off topic. You might just find that you read something in one of

those posts that will really help you with IE.