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HI Everyone,

I just got back my latest test results:

FT3: 333 (230 - 420)

FT4: 3.19 (1.2 - 3.22)

TSH 0.03 (.04 - 5.5)

My doc's nurse said to stay on my current 2 grains. I told the nurse

that I am working to get my FT3 up to the top of the range. She

relayed that the doc was concerned about the tsh and to come in to

discuss it on Monday. I see that they are going by the old ranges

for tsh. I looked in the files section to find the info on why tsh

doesn't matter once you begin tx with Armour, but can't seem to

locate it. Can anyone send this to me and any other info that I can

take in with me on Monday. I didn't tell her that I actually

increased from 2 grains to 2 and a half grains about a week ago after

I had my blood drawn.

I feel absolutely great, but still have low basal temps, cold hands

and feet, a very low sex drive. I feel like this extra half grain

may get me where I want to be.

Any material will be appreciated.

Chris

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How are you doing with Selenium? It's gonna boost your conversion,

getting that T3 up just a bit more... You can safely go to 400 mcg of

Selenium per day... Currently I'm on about that myself... I can't afford

labs, but I do feel that it's helped with my feeling so much better...

just a thought...

Topper ()

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 20:48:05 -0000 " cs_crawford55 "

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> HI Everyone,

> I just got back my latest test results:

>

> FT3: 333 (230 - 420)

> FT4: 3.19 (1.2 - 3.22)

> TSH 0.03 (.04 - 5.5)

>

> My doc's nurse said to stay on my current 2 grains. I told the

> nurse

> that I am working to get my FT3 up to the top of the range. She

> relayed that the doc was concerned about the tsh and to come in to

> discuss it on Monday. I see that they are going by the old ranges

> for tsh. I looked in the files section to find the info on why tsh

> doesn't matter once you begin tx with Armour, but can't seem to

> locate it. Can anyone send this to me and any other info that I can

> take in with me on Monday. I didn't tell her that I actually

> increased from 2 grains to 2 and a half grains about a week ago

> after I had my blood drawn.

> I feel absolutely great, but still have low basal temps, cold hands

> and feet, a very low sex drive. I feel like this extra half grain

> may get me where I want to be.

> Any material will be appreciated.

> Chris

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Hey Pard! Maybe I should up my selenium from 200 to the 400.

Hugs

One of the Proud ThyroMusketeers

Re: help!

>

>

> How are you doing with Selenium? It's gonna boost your conversion,

> getting that T3 up just a bit more... You can safely go to 400 mcg of

> Selenium per day... Currently I'm on about that myself... I can't afford

> labs, but I do feel that it's helped with my feeling so much better...

>

> just a thought...

>

> Topper ()

>

> On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 20:48:05 -0000 " cs_crawford55 "

> writes:

> > HI Everyone,

> > I just got back my latest test results:

> >

> > FT3: 333 (230 - 420)

> > FT4: 3.19 (1.2 - 3.22)

> > TSH 0.03 (.04 - 5.5)

> >

> > My doc's nurse said to stay on my current 2 grains. I told the

> > nurse

> > that I am working to get my FT3 up to the top of the range. She

> > relayed that the doc was concerned about the tsh and to come in to

> > discuss it on Monday. I see that they are going by the old ranges

> > for tsh. I looked in the files section to find the info on why tsh

> > doesn't matter once you begin tx with Armour, but can't seem to

> > locate it. Can anyone send this to me and any other info that I can

> > take in with me on Monday. I didn't tell her that I actually

> > increased from 2 grains to 2 and a half grains about a week ago

> > after I had my blood drawn.

> > I feel absolutely great, but still have low basal temps, cold hands

> > and feet, a very low sex drive. I feel like this extra half grain

> > may get me where I want to be.

> > Any material will be appreciated.

> > Chris

>

>

>

>

>

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> FT3: 333 (230 - 420)

> FT4: 3.19 (1.2 - 3.22)

> TSH 0.03 (.04 - 5.5)

it is remarkable that you have a TSH that low, and a free T3

so low (the latter causing the cold temp and hands and feet). Your

high Free T4 is a clue that you are not converting well. On Armour,

most folks have a free T4 in the ones. As mentioned, you need

to be on Selenium. L-tyrosine is also good for conversion, as may be

Vitamin C.

Also, you probably need adrenal support. That can certainly help you

with the conversion and overall picture. I am on Isocort, taking 6

tabs a day.

Your doc's nurse isn't too knowledgeable to tell you to stay on 2

grains (but so are the vast majority of medical professionals!!).

Glad you increased!!

Also, your low libido may be another issue, such as low

testosterone. I started supplementing with testosterone, and wow!!

Also, how is your Ferritin? That is an important correction.

Janie aka ThyroDiva

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> FT3: 333 (230 - 420)

> FT4: 3.19 (1.2 - 3.22)

> TSH 0.03 (.04 - 5.5)

it is remarkable that you have a TSH that low, and a free T3

so low (the latter causing the cold temp and hands and feet). Your

high Free T4 is a clue that you are not converting well. On Armour,

most folks have a free T4 in the ones. As mentioned, you need

to be on Selenium. L-tyrosine is also good for conversion, as may be

Vitamin C.

Also, you probably need adrenal support. That can certainly help you

with the conversion and overall picture. I am on Isocort, taking 6

tabs a day.

Your doc's nurse isn't too knowledgeable to tell you to stay on 2

grains (but so are the vast majority of medical professionals!!).

Glad you increased!!

Also, your low libido may be another issue, such as low

testosterone. I started supplementing with testosterone, and wow!!

Also, how is your Ferritin? That is an important correction.

Janie aka ThyroDiva

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-HI Topper,

I take 300 mcg a day. I'll increase it to 400.

Thanks

Chris

-- In NaturalThyroidHormones , topper2@j... wrote:

>

>

> How are you doing with Selenium? It's gonna boost your conversion,

> getting that T3 up just a bit more... You can safely go to 400 mcg

of

> Selenium per day... Currently I'm on about that myself... I can't

afford

> labs, but I do feel that it's helped with my feeling so much

better...

>

> just a thought...

>

> Topper ()

>

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HI ,

I went to his website, but couldn't find anything related to this. I

know that Janie and others here support the belief that tsh is not

relavent once tx begins, but I also saw it other places. I wish I

would have copied it.

Chris

> Hi - I wish I had some documentation for you about TSH. Mine

> does not even test it after a person has been put on meds...my last

> test was 6 years ago .0001...anyway...Dr. Brownstein says in

> his book " Overcoming Thyroid Disorders " that he has found in his

> practice that pateints do best when TSH is suppressed as much as

> possible. Maybe he has something on a webiste about this.

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I'm the multi-dosing queen... but I still think the is a valid reason to

splitting up the doses of many things... try taking some of the Selenium

in the morning... and some before bed... they are easy to pop after a

meal.. and so far, I've read no concerns about absorption concerns.

Let us know if a few weeks how you're doing.....

Topper ()

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 14:30:52 -0000 " cs_crawford55 "

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> -HI Topper,

> I take 300 mcg a day. I'll increase it to 400.

> Thanks

> Chris

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HI Janie,

I take 300mcg of selenium, 750 of L-tyrosine, 1000mg C every day. I

take something called Adrenal Fatigue support and natural

progesterone has been my salvation for about 8 years. Maybe I should

have my hormones and ferritan tested. It is funny, I feel so much

better mentally and physically except for those particular symptoms.

I have an apt Monday evening with one doc in this practice, but I am

going to try to change it to my original one who seems more

interested in looking at all of the hormones. She mentioned that on

my first visit, but then has been out with breast cancer tx. She is

back thought so I am going to try to get in with her.

Chris

> > FT3: 333 (230 - 420)

> > FT4: 3.19 (1.2 - 3.22)

> > TSH 0.03 (.04 - 5.5)

>

> it is remarkable that you have a TSH that low, and a free T3

> so low (the latter causing the cold temp and hands and feet). Your

> high Free T4 is a clue that you are not converting well. On Armour,

> most folks have a free T4 in the ones. As mentioned, you need

> to be on Selenium. L-tyrosine is also good for conversion, as may

be

> Vitamin C.

>

> Also, you probably need adrenal support. That can certainly help

you

> with the conversion and overall picture. I am on Isocort, taking 6

> tabs a day.

>

> Your doc's nurse isn't too knowledgeable to tell you to stay on 2

> grains (but so are the vast majority of medical professionals!!).

> Glad you increased!!

>

> Also, your low libido may be another issue, such as low

> testosterone. I started supplementing with testosterone, and wow!!

>

> Also, how is your Ferritin? That is an important correction.

>

> Janie aka ThyroDiva

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