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Umm umm good! Just the mention of all those brownies and beans and

cornbread just makes my mouth water. And to think all you would have to do

is top it all off with a couple bowls of strawberry or vanilla ice cream.

Umm umm good! You are right. If it taste really good, then it is probably

bad for you. I hate to say this, but I will any way. If it is white, it is

definitely bad for you, and this is no joke. It includes milk, potatoes

rice and grits. The yankees may have some problems in knowing what grits

are. But one thing for sure, if you are a diabetic they may still taste

good, but they are definitely bad for you.

Congratulations on getting all that fat off your frame. I know it makes you

feel much better just knowing you are not hauling around those extra fifty

or sixty pounds. I still have around ten or fifteen pounds to get rid of,

but I don't believe I will ever lose that layer of fat on my lower abdomen.

RE: Spaghetti and Pasta

>

> Harry,

> Well, the sad truth is that this philosophy does not just apply to

> Diabetics.

> My weight got completely out of hand several years ago. When I hit 270 I

> finally got the message that something had to give because my feet had

> gotten so far down on my body I could not bend to reach them without

> discomfort.

> I have managed to get down to just around 210 and my feet have come back

> to where they should be but I still need to whack off another 20 or so

> pounds.

> All these things I love to eat just don't help one little bit. Such

> things as brownies right out of the oven, Great Northern beans with a

> ham hock cooked in, lasagna with the cheese bubbling on top and that

> killer pecan pie call for me as we pass them in the kitchen or store.

> Even the beans keep calling my name as they sit in the kitchen cabinet

> waiting to be cooked.

> Tonight we are going to have a good low carb meal, Sirloin Steak with

> brussles sprouts. Surly this will make up for some of the things I have

> snuck today while Crystal is at work?

> Cy, the Ancient Okie...

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Umm umm good! Just the mention of all those brownies and beans and

cornbread just makes my mouth water. And to think all you would have to do

is top it all off with a couple bowls of strawberry or vanilla ice cream.

Umm umm good! You are right. If it taste really good, then it is probably

bad for you. I hate to say this, but I will any way. If it is white, it is

definitely bad for you, and this is no joke. It includes milk, potatoes

rice and grits. The yankees may have some problems in knowing what grits

are. But one thing for sure, if you are a diabetic they may still taste

good, but they are definitely bad for you.

Congratulations on getting all that fat off your frame. I know it makes you

feel much better just knowing you are not hauling around those extra fifty

or sixty pounds. I still have around ten or fifteen pounds to get rid of,

but I don't believe I will ever lose that layer of fat on my lower abdomen.

RE: Spaghetti and Pasta

>

> Harry,

> Well, the sad truth is that this philosophy does not just apply to

> Diabetics.

> My weight got completely out of hand several years ago. When I hit 270 I

> finally got the message that something had to give because my feet had

> gotten so far down on my body I could not bend to reach them without

> discomfort.

> I have managed to get down to just around 210 and my feet have come back

> to where they should be but I still need to whack off another 20 or so

> pounds.

> All these things I love to eat just don't help one little bit. Such

> things as brownies right out of the oven, Great Northern beans with a

> ham hock cooked in, lasagna with the cheese bubbling on top and that

> killer pecan pie call for me as we pass them in the kitchen or store.

> Even the beans keep calling my name as they sit in the kitchen cabinet

> waiting to be cooked.

> Tonight we are going to have a good low carb meal, Sirloin Steak with

> brussles sprouts. Surly this will make up for some of the things I have

> snuck today while Crystal is at work?

> Cy, the Ancient Okie...

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i too being diabetic for over forty years, looked great being slim and

attractive on the outside. never was educated on the price high sugars would

cost me. even after becoming blind the nurses would come to the house and

were happy if i had a blood sugar of fifteen. that is two hundred and

seventy in united states readings. they thought that was a good reading for

me. now because of the information i received with this group i aim for

five. my last average was six point six which one hundred and eighty in

your terms. every day i work at doing better. but in the meantime i am now

blind. what a high price to pay. but you can be sure i will not allow any

other complications to come into my life. hang in there and think of what

those poison foods can kill you. it is your choice. good luck with your

fight to stay healthy, karen from canada

is ---- Original Message -----

To: <blind-diabetics >

Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 10:17 PM

Subject: Re: Spaghetti and Pasta

>

> Lissi,

> You said, " The reality you describe sounds very grim, but I'm learning

> from it and I don't doubt you. As a type one diabetic, do you ever get

> over feeling wistful

> and obsessing about food? "

> My answer will be brief. The answer is " no " . At least this has been my

> experience, since becoming insulin dependent almost two years ago. I only

> wish I had been obsessive about food while I was not insulin dependent,

> because abuse and over use of refined carbohydrates is, in my opinion,

> what caused me to become an insulin dependent diabetic in the first place.

> I would love to have a half gallon of ice cream right about now, and maybe

> a couple of Butter Fingers and a big bag of M & M's. I loved to smoke and a

> good cigarette or a fine cigar would be a good topper off, as I sip on my

> totally sugar soda pop Coke or Pepsi.

>

> " Am I right that diabetic coma results from low blood sugar and that high

> blood sugar or spikes are hard on the body causing kidney, nerve or heart

> damage? "

> Yes, you are correct!

> Let me tell you about grim.

> Back way back then, the doctors did not know about carb abuse and over use

> and diabetes type 2 under oral medication control. I was under excellent

> control according to the doctors for 16+ years, while I did all that binge

> carb eating almost daily and at least weekly. I even had good A1C

> readings according to the doctors, since they were usually under 6.0.

> I would say that that carb binge eating were the direct cause of my three

> heart attacks, one stroke and sexual impotence.

> Now that is what I call really grim.

> While I obsess about food every day today, I only wish I had all those

> many years ago. Maybe some here will.

>

>

>

>

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i too being diabetic for over forty years, looked great being slim and

attractive on the outside. never was educated on the price high sugars would

cost me. even after becoming blind the nurses would come to the house and

were happy if i had a blood sugar of fifteen. that is two hundred and

seventy in united states readings. they thought that was a good reading for

me. now because of the information i received with this group i aim for

five. my last average was six point six which one hundred and eighty in

your terms. every day i work at doing better. but in the meantime i am now

blind. what a high price to pay. but you can be sure i will not allow any

other complications to come into my life. hang in there and think of what

those poison foods can kill you. it is your choice. good luck with your

fight to stay healthy, karen from canada

is ---- Original Message -----

To: <blind-diabetics >

Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 10:17 PM

Subject: Re: Spaghetti and Pasta

>

> Lissi,

> You said, " The reality you describe sounds very grim, but I'm learning

> from it and I don't doubt you. As a type one diabetic, do you ever get

> over feeling wistful

> and obsessing about food? "

> My answer will be brief. The answer is " no " . At least this has been my

> experience, since becoming insulin dependent almost two years ago. I only

> wish I had been obsessive about food while I was not insulin dependent,

> because abuse and over use of refined carbohydrates is, in my opinion,

> what caused me to become an insulin dependent diabetic in the first place.

> I would love to have a half gallon of ice cream right about now, and maybe

> a couple of Butter Fingers and a big bag of M & M's. I loved to smoke and a

> good cigarette or a fine cigar would be a good topper off, as I sip on my

> totally sugar soda pop Coke or Pepsi.

>

> " Am I right that diabetic coma results from low blood sugar and that high

> blood sugar or spikes are hard on the body causing kidney, nerve or heart

> damage? "

> Yes, you are correct!

> Let me tell you about grim.

> Back way back then, the doctors did not know about carb abuse and over use

> and diabetes type 2 under oral medication control. I was under excellent

> control according to the doctors for 16+ years, while I did all that binge

> carb eating almost daily and at least weekly. I even had good A1C

> readings according to the doctors, since they were usually under 6.0.

> I would say that that carb binge eating were the direct cause of my three

> heart attacks, one stroke and sexual impotence.

> Now that is what I call really grim.

> While I obsess about food every day today, I only wish I had all those

> many years ago. Maybe some here will.

>

>

>

>

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Lissi,

I don't know whether you needed clarification here and I'm sorry if I'm off

track but a person with Type 2 diabetes can never become a Type 1 or

vice-versa. Yes a Type 2 might start taking insulin but they are still

classified as a person with Type 2 diabetes.

Type 1 diabetes was said to only occur in children and some cases young

adults and was also referred to as juvenile diabetes, insulin dependant

diabetes. and Type 2 was classified as non insulin dependent diabetes and

occurs in people in he older age bracket.

Unfortunately those categories are no longer clear cut any more.

Children are now being diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes and as part of

treatment for better control in Type 2 diabetes they have also started to

use insulin.

Now about food a favourite subject for people with diabetes all over the

world!!

I don't think it matters whether you have Type 1 or Type 2 diabetes when it

comes to thinking about food. Food is the main item we focus on when it

comes to controlling our diabetes. For some people it might be on their

minds more than others. We have to decide what it is good for us and what

as not. We are

the only ones who control what we put into our mouths no one else. Unless

you happen to

be in some unfortunate situation and have someone standing there with a gun

to your head demanding that you eat that Big Mac and large fries!!!! Hee

Hee!! Sorry if that is in bad taste for some!

For some females, teenagers or young adults, with type 1 diabetes they can

suffer

from eating disorders. I know because I've been there. I had a sort of

bulimia but I was using my diabetes to manipulate my weight. I went From

170 pounds to 116 pounds in a

short time.

Food was forever on my mind. I would think about what I could buy the next

day that I shouldn't really be eating. I was also a closet eater, hiding

packets of food under my bed, in my handbag, draws and so on. bingeing on

chocolate bars in the

toilet, stuffing them into my mouth from the corner shop before reaching

home and so on... I had also stopped taking my insulin on a regular basis

as well. Of course all this abuse was paying a heavy toll on my health. I

knew what I was doing to myself but I couldn't help it. Even after a

serious episode of diabetic ketoacidosis and spending 4 days in a intensive

care unit I hadn't learnt my lesson.

I finally overcame my eating disorder and I can now enjoy one chocolate

biscuit and fill satisfied instead of eating a whole packet. I enjoy the

occasional chocolate bar instead of 3 or 4 in ten minutes like I use too and

I also

don't feel guilty about enjoying having that one biscuit or chocolate bar.

It is also very rare for me these day to have cakes, slices or home made

biscuits.

When I have these treats I work them into my meal plan and tend to do a bit

more exercise. I also have these at lunch time because I can then go out

and do a 30 minute walk. I tend to also enjoy the smells of foods more than

actually eating them. When I do decide to eat something I now find it too

sweet, too salty, too fatty or the serve is far too big. One time I decided

to eat a piece of mud cake and boy was that a mistake. I felt yuck

afterwards and my level jumped up to over 300 and took a day or

2 to get my levels back in to some normality ! I have decided to never

have another one again!

Another thing we have to take in consideration when it comes to food is how

you eat it and the quantity you have. Our local dietitian told a group of

us that you have to learn to taste the food you are eating and chew it

thoroughly because that is where we get the satisfaction. If you just stuff

it into your mouth and only take a few bites before swallowing we don't

really get satisfied so you eat more until you do. She gave us all a small

piece of chocolate and told us that we weren't allow to chew it but had to

suck it and enjoy the taste .

You must also remember that because you have been eating a particular way

for so long and use to a certain taste of foods that your body and taste

buds have to

get use to the new flavours and types of food eaten. Some people can have

withdrawal symptoms because the body is use to getting some much sugar, fats

and so on. because the body is no long getting this fix it reacts to

it. I suppose it can be a bit like giving up smoking.

Some might be able to relate to this?

is an exsert from a book, which was written by a dietitian.

A common thread in the stories of people who have weight problems is a cycle

of 'success' and 'failure'. They attempt food restriction to try to lose

weight (a good response) but owing to unsustainable goals, they break out,

overeat (and have a bad response). Food and weight become a willpower issue.

Self-esteem suffers as a consequence. Although not necessarily a weight

control issue, diabetes evokes the same response if unrealistic goals are

set. Diabetes has strict food rules which can lead to a sense of food

deprivation and entry into the 'dieting cycle'. Pre-diagnosis food habits,

including weight maintenance habits, greatly influence the importance the

'dietary cycle' will play.

A healthy approach to weight management is a realistic, everyday, healthy

eating plan. Less healthy foods require thought and discussion because they

are pleasurable and therefore should not be totally banned, but their

inclusion should be carefully considered. Eating an occasional, less healthy

food does not mean that someone has no willpower or is a 'bad' person. It is

normal behaviour to overeat favourite food that has been restricted. The

trick is to not allow it to become a habit and to realise that a small

amount enjoyed sensibly is not the end of the world, nor will it result in

instant, permanent damage from raised blood glucose levels in diabetes.

from down under

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>

> Dear Harry, and Everyone,

>

> The reality you describe sounds very grim, but I'm learning from it and I

don't doubt you. As a type one diabetic, do you ever get over feeling

wistful and obsessing about food?

>

> Am I right that diabetic coma results from low blood sugar and that high

blood sugar or spikes are hard on the body causing kidney, nerve or heart

damage?

>

> It sounds like management of type one diabetes is more difficult and

urgent. As a type two diabetic, I need to be grateful that I had so many

years of worry-free eating.

>

> My efforts to adjust my diet leave me feeling disappointed in eating and

hungry, but I'm surprised at how well I'm doing. When I buy anything with

whole wheat, I end up throwing it away because it doesn't taste good, but

I'm faithfully counting carbs, though they aren't the good ones.

>

> Reading the posts on this list helps me to stay true to the diet, one meal

at a time. I want so much to throw my glucometer away and pretend I'm not

diabetic, but some distant sense of self preservation is holding me back.

>

> I admire all of you who are taking good care of yourselves. I don't think

I'll ever get tired of reading your posts to make myself admit that it can

be done.

>

> Always With Love,

>

> Lissi

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This is an excellent message. It goes into my keeper folder.

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>

>

>>

>> Dear Harry, and Everyone,

>>

>> The reality you describe sounds very grim, but I'm learning from it and I

> don't doubt you. As a type one diabetic, do you ever get over feeling

> wistful and obsessing about food?

>>

>> Am I right that diabetic coma results from low blood sugar and that high

> blood sugar or spikes are hard on the body causing kidney, nerve or heart

> damage?

>>

>> It sounds like management of type one diabetes is more difficult and

> urgent. As a type two diabetic, I need to be grateful that I had so many

> years of worry-free eating.

>>

>> My efforts to adjust my diet leave me feeling disappointed in eating and

> hungry, but I'm surprised at how well I'm doing. When I buy anything with

> whole wheat, I end up throwing it away because it doesn't taste good, but

> I'm faithfully counting carbs, though they aren't the good ones.

>>

>> Reading the posts on this list helps me to stay true to the diet, one

>> meal

> at a time. I want so much to throw my glucometer away and pretend I'm not

> diabetic, but some distant sense of self preservation is holding me back.

>>

>> I admire all of you who are taking good care of yourselves. I don't think

> I'll ever get tired of reading your posts to make myself admit that it can

> be done.

>>

>> Always With Love,

>>

>> Lissi

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Harry,

I really don't know how to tell you this - but - I think I had fewer

problems with my joints when I was fatter?

I am sure it is a product of some aging and the fact that the Arthritis

is progressing but still, I had fewer aches and pains when I had more

weight.

I will, however, continue to slim down so I can feel worse... (smile)

(I suppose this will bring on a barrage from our friend Pat)

Oh yes, I did talk to Wayne last evening.

He is going to have some surgery to put a " flap " over the site of the

last surgery. He will be residing in a " sand bed " for two to three weeks

after the surgery is completed. In fact, they will not do the procedure

until the bed arrives. From his description of the bed it is designed to

minimize the complications which arise from a whole lot of laying around

in a hospital bed for four months.

After the recovery period is over he hopes to - finally - go to the

rehab unit.

Cy, the ancient Okie...

Re: Spaghetti and Pasta

Umm umm good! Just the mention of all those brownies and beans and

cornbread just makes my mouth water. And to think all you would have to

do

is top it all off with a couple bowls of strawberry or vanilla ice

cream.

Umm umm good! You are right. If it taste really good, then it is

probably

bad for you. I hate to say this, but I will any way. If it is white,

it is

definitely bad for you, and this is no joke. It includes milk, potatoes

rice and grits. The yankees may have some problems in knowing what

grits

are. But one thing for sure, if you are a diabetic they may still taste

good, but they are definitely bad for you.

Congratulations on getting all that fat off your frame. I know it makes

you

feel much better just knowing you are not hauling around those extra

fifty

or sixty pounds. I still have around ten or fifteen pounds to get rid

of,

but I don't believe I will ever lose that layer of fat on my lower

abdomen.

RE: Spaghetti and Pasta

>

> Harry,

> Well, the sad truth is that this philosophy does not just apply to

> Diabetics. My weight got completely out of hand several years ago.

> When I hit 270 I finally got the message that something had to give

> because my feet had gotten so far down on my body I could not bend to

> reach them without discomfort.

> I have managed to get down to just around 210 and my feet have come

back

> to where they should be but I still need to whack off another 20 or so

> pounds.

> All these things I love to eat just don't help one little bit. Such

> things as brownies right out of the oven, Great Northern beans with a

> ham hock cooked in, lasagna with the cheese bubbling on top and that

> killer pecan pie call for me as we pass them in the kitchen or store.

> Even the beans keep calling my name as they sit in the kitchen cabinet

> waiting to be cooked.

> Tonight we are going to have a good low carb meal, Sirloin Steak with

> brussles sprouts. Surly this will make up for some of the things I

have

> snuck today while Crystal is at work?

> Cy, the Ancient Okie...

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Harry,

I really don't know how to tell you this - but - I think I had fewer

problems with my joints when I was fatter?

I am sure it is a product of some aging and the fact that the Arthritis

is progressing but still, I had fewer aches and pains when I had more

weight.

I will, however, continue to slim down so I can feel worse... (smile)

(I suppose this will bring on a barrage from our friend Pat)

Oh yes, I did talk to Wayne last evening.

He is going to have some surgery to put a " flap " over the site of the

last surgery. He will be residing in a " sand bed " for two to three weeks

after the surgery is completed. In fact, they will not do the procedure

until the bed arrives. From his description of the bed it is designed to

minimize the complications which arise from a whole lot of laying around

in a hospital bed for four months.

After the recovery period is over he hopes to - finally - go to the

rehab unit.

Cy, the ancient Okie...

Re: Spaghetti and Pasta

Umm umm good! Just the mention of all those brownies and beans and

cornbread just makes my mouth water. And to think all you would have to

do

is top it all off with a couple bowls of strawberry or vanilla ice

cream.

Umm umm good! You are right. If it taste really good, then it is

probably

bad for you. I hate to say this, but I will any way. If it is white,

it is

definitely bad for you, and this is no joke. It includes milk, potatoes

rice and grits. The yankees may have some problems in knowing what

grits

are. But one thing for sure, if you are a diabetic they may still taste

good, but they are definitely bad for you.

Congratulations on getting all that fat off your frame. I know it makes

you

feel much better just knowing you are not hauling around those extra

fifty

or sixty pounds. I still have around ten or fifteen pounds to get rid

of,

but I don't believe I will ever lose that layer of fat on my lower

abdomen.

RE: Spaghetti and Pasta

>

> Harry,

> Well, the sad truth is that this philosophy does not just apply to

> Diabetics. My weight got completely out of hand several years ago.

> When I hit 270 I finally got the message that something had to give

> because my feet had gotten so far down on my body I could not bend to

> reach them without discomfort.

> I have managed to get down to just around 210 and my feet have come

back

> to where they should be but I still need to whack off another 20 or so

> pounds.

> All these things I love to eat just don't help one little bit. Such

> things as brownies right out of the oven, Great Northern beans with a

> ham hock cooked in, lasagna with the cheese bubbling on top and that

> killer pecan pie call for me as we pass them in the kitchen or store.

> Even the beans keep calling my name as they sit in the kitchen cabinet

> waiting to be cooked.

> Tonight we are going to have a good low carb meal, Sirloin Steak with

> brussles sprouts. Surly this will make up for some of the things I

have

> snuck today while Crystal is at work?

> Cy, the Ancient Okie...

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Harry,

I really don't know how to tell you this - but - I think I had fewer

problems with my joints when I was fatter?

I am sure it is a product of some aging and the fact that the Arthritis

is progressing but still, I had fewer aches and pains when I had more

weight.

I will, however, continue to slim down so I can feel worse... (smile)

(I suppose this will bring on a barrage from our friend Pat)

Oh yes, I did talk to Wayne last evening.

He is going to have some surgery to put a " flap " over the site of the

last surgery. He will be residing in a " sand bed " for two to three weeks

after the surgery is completed. In fact, they will not do the procedure

until the bed arrives. From his description of the bed it is designed to

minimize the complications which arise from a whole lot of laying around

in a hospital bed for four months.

After the recovery period is over he hopes to - finally - go to the

rehab unit.

Cy, the ancient Okie...

Re: Spaghetti and Pasta

Umm umm good! Just the mention of all those brownies and beans and

cornbread just makes my mouth water. And to think all you would have to

do

is top it all off with a couple bowls of strawberry or vanilla ice

cream.

Umm umm good! You are right. If it taste really good, then it is

probably

bad for you. I hate to say this, but I will any way. If it is white,

it is

definitely bad for you, and this is no joke. It includes milk, potatoes

rice and grits. The yankees may have some problems in knowing what

grits

are. But one thing for sure, if you are a diabetic they may still taste

good, but they are definitely bad for you.

Congratulations on getting all that fat off your frame. I know it makes

you

feel much better just knowing you are not hauling around those extra

fifty

or sixty pounds. I still have around ten or fifteen pounds to get rid

of,

but I don't believe I will ever lose that layer of fat on my lower

abdomen.

RE: Spaghetti and Pasta

>

> Harry,

> Well, the sad truth is that this philosophy does not just apply to

> Diabetics. My weight got completely out of hand several years ago.

> When I hit 270 I finally got the message that something had to give

> because my feet had gotten so far down on my body I could not bend to

> reach them without discomfort.

> I have managed to get down to just around 210 and my feet have come

back

> to where they should be but I still need to whack off another 20 or so

> pounds.

> All these things I love to eat just don't help one little bit. Such

> things as brownies right out of the oven, Great Northern beans with a

> ham hock cooked in, lasagna with the cheese bubbling on top and that

> killer pecan pie call for me as we pass them in the kitchen or store.

> Even the beans keep calling my name as they sit in the kitchen cabinet

> waiting to be cooked.

> Tonight we are going to have a good low carb meal, Sirloin Steak with

> brussles sprouts. Surly this will make up for some of the things I

have

> snuck today while Crystal is at work?

> Cy, the Ancient Okie...

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What you say makes some sense in that osteoporosis or bone loss is prevented

by doing weight baring exercises. If you are fat this extra weight may help

you prevent bone loss, but this is just a wild theory. How about another

one. As you get older your production of testosterone decreases

dramatically, which can cause lethargy, low energy, depression, bone loss

and broken bones in the foot. You might get this checked out if you are

inclined. Theraputic doses of niacin is an effective treatment for

arthritis.

RE: Spaghetti and Pasta

>

> Harry,

> I really don't know how to tell you this - but - I think I had fewer

> problems with my joints when I was fatter?

> I am sure it is a product of some aging and the fact that the Arthritis

> is progressing but still, I had fewer aches and pains when I had more

> weight.

> I will, however, continue to slim down so I can feel worse... (smile)

> (I suppose this will bring on a barrage from our friend Pat)

> Oh yes, I did talk to Wayne last evening.

> He is going to have some surgery to put a " flap " over the site of the

> last surgery. He will be residing in a " sand bed " for two to three weeks

> after the surgery is completed. In fact, they will not do the procedure

> until the bed arrives. From his description of the bed it is designed to

> minimize the complications which arise from a whole lot of laying around

> in a hospital bed for four months.

> After the recovery period is over he hopes to - finally - go to the

> rehab unit.

> Cy, the ancient Okie...

>

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Hi , I enjoyed what you had to say about yoour diabetes. You have

had it for a while and have learned the hard way. It always helps those of

us who have not been diabetics for long. Good luck and keep the

information coming. Jerry

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>

>

>>

>> Dear Harry, and Everyone,

>>

>> The reality you describe sounds very grim, but I'm learning from it and I

> don't doubt you. As a type one diabetic, do you ever get over feeling

> wistful and obsessing about food?

>>

>> Am I right that diabetic coma results from low blood sugar and that high

> blood sugar or spikes are hard on the body causing kidney, nerve or heart

> damage?

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>> It sounds like management of type one diabetes is more difficult and

> urgent. As a type two diabetic, I need to be grateful that I had so many

> years of worry-free eating.

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>> My efforts to adjust my diet leave me feeling disappointed in eating and

> hungry, but I'm surprised at how well I'm doing. When I buy anything with

> whole wheat, I end up throwing it away because it doesn't taste good, but

> I'm faithfully counting carbs, though they aren't the good ones.

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>> Reading the posts on this list helps me to stay true to the diet, one

>> meal

> at a time. I want so much to throw my glucometer away and pretend I'm not

> diabetic, but some distant sense of self preservation is holding me back.

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>> I admire all of you who are taking good care of yourselves. I don't think

> I'll ever get tired of reading your posts to make myself admit that it can

> be done.

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>> Always With Love,

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>> Lissi

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Harry,

You know, I like that weight theory.

Much of my problem actually stems from my broken back. I had a ladder

collapse under me in about 1995 and suffered crushed vertebra in my

lower back and a broken neck.

I am doing the Niacin therapy now and it does seem to help quite a bit.

Cy, the Ancient Okie...

Re: Spaghetti and Pasta

What you say makes some sense in that osteoporosis or bone loss is

prevented

by doing weight baring exercises. If you are fat this extra weight may

help

you prevent bone loss, but this is just a wild theory. How about

another

one. As you get older your production of testosterone decreases

dramatically, which can cause lethargy, low energy, depression, bone

loss

and broken bones in the foot. You might get this checked out if you are

inclined. Theraputic doses of niacin is an effective treatment for

arthritis.

RE: Spaghetti and Pasta

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> Harry,

> I really don't know how to tell you this - but - I think I had fewer

> problems with my joints when I was fatter? I am sure it is a product

> of some aging and the fact that the Arthritis is progressing but

> still, I had fewer aches and pains when I had more weight.

> I will, however, continue to slim down so I can feel worse... (smile)

> (I suppose this will bring on a barrage from our friend Pat)

> Oh yes, I did talk to Wayne last evening.

> He is going to have some surgery to put a " flap " over the site of the

> last surgery. He will be residing in a " sand bed " for two to three

weeks

> after the surgery is completed. In fact, they will not do the

procedure

> until the bed arrives. From his description of the bed it is designed

to

> minimize the complications which arise from a whole lot of laying

around

> in a hospital bed for four months.

> After the recovery period is over he hopes to - finally - go to the

> rehab unit.

> Cy, the ancient Okie...

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