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Well back in June a DR I went to see found my aldosterone VERY low through a

urine test. he ignored it. When I went to Friedman, he made me go two days no

salt and did blood. It and the renin were VERY low. Yesterday was day 1 of a

full pill a day. I noticed no difference till yesterday except I have had a

funny smell to my urine for a few years and that was gone. Yesterday I went to

the bathroom so much that I think my electrolytes are off. My legs were cramping

in the middle of the night and I awake with a headache I can't get rid of. Aside

from the stuff I have mentioned, I feel no different. It is supposed to help my

low blood pressure. I have noticed nothing there, but then I don't take it. He

upped my Armour 15 mg when I was there and I just raised it 2 weeks later

another 15. I am waiting for 2 midnight saliva tests to come back. My am

cortisol after driving 2 hours and being angry at 9:30, was 9, pretty low. I was

dxed with hyoreneinism and hypoaldosterone. I have had many people say he does

that a lot, but I knew there was an issue with that before, so that is why I

went to him. As far as they Armour, he was going to add some t4 to me, but my t3

was so low, he raised the Armour. I also made it quite clear that I have heard

some good results on people mixing the t4 with the Armour when they have an

issue with high t3 not t4, but I would let him know what I wanted after the

tests. He right away said my t3 was too low, so like I said upped me. I have

brown patches of hyperpigmentation on my gums and abdomen striations too.

Re: Re: raising meds when it is cold

Jamy, when do you take the iron in relation to your meds? I've been

taking mine about an hour before bed time... that way it has the run

of

my system during the night.... it's doing well for me....

... I'll explain what I base that on... All my life I've had to watch

to

make sure that I get enough Iron.. for me, when I'm in need of it I

crave

Brussels sprouts and beef liver.... This is the second time that I've

gotten beef liver and cooked it up and comfortably divided it up into

several mini-meals. In the past... I'd sit down and eat all the liver

in

one batch.... just wolfed the stuff down.... When I got some in

November,

I was still in wolf mode.... but when I got it in December I stretched

it

into 13 meals (2 pounds of it) and the batch that I got this week was

just a bit less than a pound and I got 4 meals out of it... No NEED to

wolf it all in one fell swoop....

So my body is doing much better. I'm doing (rats, don't have the

numbers

in front of me.... ) 100% of the RDA in my multi-vitamins, those are

divided up into 8 pieces, one taken with each mini-meal during the day

and one an hour before bed time when I take a half tab of a tablet

that

is 365% of RDA....

My thyroid meds are still doing okay... My thyroid is non functional

(killed by RAI) and when I went up the 3 grain last month I went

hyper..

so the iron is not binding the thyroid doing it this way....

... my hyper state is over BTW... I'm feeling great again. Normal

appetite... back to convincing myself to not skip any of my mini-meals

so

that I don't lower my metabolic rate as I continue to lose weight!

Big Grin!

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On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 10:14:43 -0800 " JAMY "

writes:

>

> I am going to add 15 mg more of Armour. I am also taking a lot of

> iron since I am anemic, so that is blocking my meds.

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Well back in June a DR I went to see found my aldosterone VERY low through a

urine test. he ignored it. When I went to Friedman, he made me go two days no

salt and did blood. It and the renin were VERY low. Yesterday was day 1 of a

full pill a day. I noticed no difference till yesterday except I have had a

funny smell to my urine for a few years and that was gone. Yesterday I went to

the bathroom so much that I think my electrolytes are off. My legs were cramping

in the middle of the night and I awake with a headache I can't get rid of. Aside

from the stuff I have mentioned, I feel no different. It is supposed to help my

low blood pressure. I have noticed nothing there, but then I don't take it. He

upped my Armour 15 mg when I was there and I just raised it 2 weeks later

another 15. I am waiting for 2 midnight saliva tests to come back. My am

cortisol after driving 2 hours and being angry at 9:30, was 9, pretty low. I was

dxed with hyoreneinism and hypoaldosterone. I have had many people say he does

that a lot, but I knew there was an issue with that before, so that is why I

went to him. As far as they Armour, he was going to add some t4 to me, but my t3

was so low, he raised the Armour. I also made it quite clear that I have heard

some good results on people mixing the t4 with the Armour when they have an

issue with high t3 not t4, but I would let him know what I wanted after the

tests. He right away said my t3 was too low, so like I said upped me. I have

brown patches of hyperpigmentation on my gums and abdomen striations too.

Re: Re: raising meds when it is cold

Jamy, when do you take the iron in relation to your meds? I've been

taking mine about an hour before bed time... that way it has the run

of

my system during the night.... it's doing well for me....

... I'll explain what I base that on... All my life I've had to watch

to

make sure that I get enough Iron.. for me, when I'm in need of it I

crave

Brussels sprouts and beef liver.... This is the second time that I've

gotten beef liver and cooked it up and comfortably divided it up into

several mini-meals. In the past... I'd sit down and eat all the liver

in

one batch.... just wolfed the stuff down.... When I got some in

November,

I was still in wolf mode.... but when I got it in December I stretched

it

into 13 meals (2 pounds of it) and the batch that I got this week was

just a bit less than a pound and I got 4 meals out of it... No NEED to

wolf it all in one fell swoop....

So my body is doing much better. I'm doing (rats, don't have the

numbers

in front of me.... ) 100% of the RDA in my multi-vitamins, those are

divided up into 8 pieces, one taken with each mini-meal during the day

and one an hour before bed time when I take a half tab of a tablet

that

is 365% of RDA....

My thyroid meds are still doing okay... My thyroid is non functional

(killed by RAI) and when I went up the 3 grain last month I went

hyper..

so the iron is not binding the thyroid doing it this way....

... my hyper state is over BTW... I'm feeling great again. Normal

appetite... back to convincing myself to not skip any of my mini-meals

so

that I don't lower my metabolic rate as I continue to lose weight!

Big Grin!

Topper ()

On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 10:14:43 -0800 " JAMY "

writes:

>

> I am going to add 15 mg more of Armour. I am also taking a lot of

> iron since I am anemic, so that is blocking my meds.

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According to the conversion table, .50 mcg Levoxyl would convert to a half

grain of Armour (30 mg)

Dianne

At 04:15 AM 1/8/04 -0800, you wrote:

>Pattie Sue,

>So what would the 50mcg of Levoxyl be if it were Armour? Would it be near

>1 grain of Armour?

>Thanks,

>Frannie

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Yes, and if I were on 2.25 grain straight Armour before this change. I now am

getting 1/2 to 3/4 grain less. If I were undermedicated to begin with this is

pretty drastic.

Frannie

Re: Re: raising meds when it is cold-Iron ?

According to the conversion table, .50 mcg Levoxyl would convert to a half

grain of Armour (30 mg)

Dianne

At 04:15 AM 1/8/04 -0800, you wrote:

>Pattie Sue,

>So what would the 50mcg of Levoxyl be if it were Armour? Would it be near

>1 grain of Armour?

>Thanks,

>Frannie

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Hi, Frannie,

Yes! That is the problem that I noted earlier. I see my doctor

tomorrow, and will be asking for an upward change in my dose. The T3 is

what I need, as my ability to convert T4 to T3 is impaired. The weight

problem alone is bad enough, but the flagging energy levels are making me a

bit crazy.

My daily dose of Armour is taken at 8 in the morning. I am

thinking that the extra 1/2 grain could be taken at noon and would handle

that " plunge " in the late afternoons.

I will let you all know how this turns out. So far, he has been

more than reasonable

Dianne

At 04:35 AM 1/11/04 -0800, you wrote:

>Yes, and if I were on 2.25 grain straight Armour before this change. I now

>am getting 1/2 to 3/4 grain less. If I were undermedicated to begin with

>this is pretty drastic.

>Frannie

>

> Re: Re: raising meds when it is cold-Iron ?

>

>According to the conversion table, .50 mcg Levoxyl would convert to a half

>grain of Armour (30 mg)

>

> Dianne

>

>At 04:15 AM 1/8/04 -0800, you wrote:

> >Pattie Sue,

> >So what would the 50mcg of Levoxyl be if it were Armour? Would it be near

> >1 grain of Armour?

> >Thanks,

> >Frannie

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi, Frannie,

Yes! That is the problem that I noted earlier. I see my doctor

tomorrow, and will be asking for an upward change in my dose. The T3 is

what I need, as my ability to convert T4 to T3 is impaired. The weight

problem alone is bad enough, but the flagging energy levels are making me a

bit crazy.

My daily dose of Armour is taken at 8 in the morning. I am

thinking that the extra 1/2 grain could be taken at noon and would handle

that " plunge " in the late afternoons.

I will let you all know how this turns out. So far, he has been

more than reasonable

Dianne

At 04:35 AM 1/11/04 -0800, you wrote:

>Yes, and if I were on 2.25 grain straight Armour before this change. I now

>am getting 1/2 to 3/4 grain less. If I were undermedicated to begin with

>this is pretty drastic.

>Frannie

>

> Re: Re: raising meds when it is cold-Iron ?

>

>According to the conversion table, .50 mcg Levoxyl would convert to a half

>grain of Armour (30 mg)

>

> Dianne

>

>At 04:15 AM 1/8/04 -0800, you wrote:

> >Pattie Sue,

> >So what would the 50mcg of Levoxyl be if it were Armour? Would it be near

> >1 grain of Armour?

> >Thanks,

> >Frannie

>

>

>

>

>

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Dianne,

I got so fed up waiting to hear from my doctor via e-mail that I paged him. He

confirmed I am dosing as he instructed. I told him I was in very bad shape and I

was going to the lab am. He said, good, we'll see. Now to suffer on, waiting for

the labs and for an increase (if needed) to take place. The lab in the past has

been one day with results but the doc sometimes takes a week or more. I do not

want to up my meds until I have this draw. I just want to see if the ft3 or ft4

has fallen way down.

Please keep me posted on what you learn tomorrow.

Frannie

Re: Re: raising meds when it is cold-Iron ?

>

>According to the conversion table, .50 mcg Levoxyl would convert to a half

>grain of Armour (30 mg)

>

> Dianne

>

>At 04:15 AM 1/8/04 -0800, you wrote:

> >Pattie Sue,

> >So what would the 50mcg of Levoxyl be if it were Armour? Would it be near

> >1 grain of Armour?

> >Thanks,

> >Frannie

>

>

>

>

>

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Dianne,

I got so fed up waiting to hear from my doctor via e-mail that I paged him. He

confirmed I am dosing as he instructed. I told him I was in very bad shape and I

was going to the lab am. He said, good, we'll see. Now to suffer on, waiting for

the labs and for an increase (if needed) to take place. The lab in the past has

been one day with results but the doc sometimes takes a week or more. I do not

want to up my meds until I have this draw. I just want to see if the ft3 or ft4

has fallen way down.

Please keep me posted on what you learn tomorrow.

Frannie

Re: Re: raising meds when it is cold-Iron ?

>

>According to the conversion table, .50 mcg Levoxyl would convert to a half

>grain of Armour (30 mg)

>

> Dianne

>

>At 04:15 AM 1/8/04 -0800, you wrote:

> >Pattie Sue,

> >So what would the 50mcg of Levoxyl be if it were Armour? Would it be near

> >1 grain of Armour?

> >Thanks,

> >Frannie

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi, Frannie!

If you have made your doctor aware of how you are feeling, then

you might try to contact the lab to learn when they have sent the results

to him. The lab my doctors uses has a 24-hour turnaround for results,

unless a procedure requires longer time (cultures and such do). Once you

know that the results are in your doctor's office, perhaps you could

contact him or his nurse and have him read the results to you and authorize

an increased dose. Email me when you do hear from the doctor, okay?

At this point, I have decided that if the doctor does not increase

my dose, then I will begin purchasing the additional Armour myself by

traveling across the border to Mexico. I don't do well on such long trips,

but I will do what I have to do to climb out of this feeling so sick all

the time. I have an early appointment with my doctor in the morning, so I

will let you know what he has to say...

Dianne

At 11:01 AM 1/11/04 -0800, you wrote:

>Dianne,

>I got so fed up waiting to hear from my doctor via e-mail that I paged

>him. He confirmed I am dosing as he instructed. I told him I was in very

>bad shape and I was going to the lab am. He said, good, we'll see. Now to

>suffer on, waiting for the labs and for an increase (if needed) to take

>place. The lab in the past has been one day with results but the doc

>sometimes takes a week or more. I do not want to up my meds until I have

>this draw. I just want to see if the ft3 or ft4 has fallen way down.

>Please keep me posted on what you learn tomorrow.

>Frannie

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