Re: body temp?

January 4, 2004

How much Armour are you currently on? How long have you been on the

current dose? And why would you feel your dose is too high? Sounds

the opposite to me. Any other symptoms?

Janie aka ThyroDiva

> after years of being hot all the time, now it seems like I'm

>freezing! I also have finally lost some weight. Is it possible my

>dose is too high, or is it not high enough? The brain fog has been

>slowly lifting, though I still don't feel 100%, and my fatigue has

>improved, but is it possible I need to up my dose?

>

> 8)

January 4, 2004

I've been on 2 grains a day for about 3? months now. For so long I

felt so much better I thought I had hit my optimum dose, but maybe I

need to add some. I split the pills and take 4 mini doses a day.

Lately I've been tired some and I feel like I take too long to learn

things. I can't afford to have any tests done right now so the only

thing I can use to guage is the way I feel.

A few months ago I couldn't function at all, I switched to armour and

noticed an immediate improvement. I upped the dose from 1 and 1/2

grains to 2 about 3 months ago, I believe. My hair still seems dry,

but my nails have improved a lot. I still seem to be prone to

weepiness, so maybe I need to go with another 1/2 grain? What do you

think?

8)

> How much Armour are you currently on? How long have you been on the

> current dose? And why would you feel your dose is too high? Sounds

> the opposite to me. Any other symptoms?

>

> Janie aka ThyroDiva

>

> > after years of being hot all the time, now it seems like I'm

> >freezing! I also have finally lost some weight. Is it possible my

> >dose is too high, or is it not high enough? The brain fog has been

> >slowly lifting, though I still don't feel 100%, and my fatigue has

> >improved, but is it possible I need to up my dose?

> >

> > 8)

January 4, 2004

I've been on 2 grains a day for about 3? months now. For so long I

felt so much better I thought I had hit my optimum dose, but maybe I

need to add some. I split the pills and take 4 mini doses a day.

Lately I've been tired some and I feel like I take too long to learn

things. I can't afford to have any tests done right now so the only

thing I can use to guage is the way I feel.

A few months ago I couldn't function at all, I switched to armour and

noticed an immediate improvement. I upped the dose from 1 and 1/2

grains to 2 about 3 months ago, I believe. My hair still seems dry,

but my nails have improved a lot. I still seem to be prone to

weepiness, so maybe I need to go with another 1/2 grain? What do you

think?

8)

> How much Armour are you currently on? How long have you been on the

> current dose? And why would you feel your dose is too high? Sounds

> the opposite to me. Any other symptoms?

>

> Janie aka ThyroDiva

>

> > after years of being hot all the time, now it seems like I'm

> >freezing! I also have finally lost some weight. Is it possible my

> >dose is too high, or is it not high enough? The brain fog has been

> >slowly lifting, though I still don't feel 100%, and my fatigue has

> >improved, but is it possible I need to up my dose?

> >

> > 8)

January 4, 2004

I've been on 2 grains a day for about 3? months now. For so long I

felt so much better I thought I had hit my optimum dose, but maybe I

need to add some. I split the pills and take 4 mini doses a day.

Lately I've been tired some and I feel like I take too long to learn

things. I can't afford to have any tests done right now so the only

thing I can use to guage is the way I feel.

A few months ago I couldn't function at all, I switched to armour and

noticed an immediate improvement. I upped the dose from 1 and 1/2

grains to 2 about 3 months ago, I believe. My hair still seems dry,

but my nails have improved a lot. I still seem to be prone to

weepiness, so maybe I need to go with another 1/2 grain? What do you

think?

8)

> How much Armour are you currently on? How long have you been on the

> current dose? And why would you feel your dose is too high? Sounds

> the opposite to me. Any other symptoms?

>

> Janie aka ThyroDiva

>

> > after years of being hot all the time, now it seems like I'm

> >freezing! I also have finally lost some weight. Is it possible my

> >dose is too high, or is it not high enough? The brain fog has been

> >slowly lifting, though I still don't feel 100%, and my fatigue has

> >improved, but is it possible I need to up my dose?

> >

> > 8)

January 4, 2004

Three months is long enough to know that you are stable on 2..... I'd add

another 1/2 grain, a 5 th dose... and watch closely to see how your body

reacts....

How are your adrenals?

Topper () *who may have taken a bit too much thyroid, but

understands what happened and is not shy of trying again in a few months

at a smaller dose*

On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 23:36:45 -0000 " patty blake "

writes:

> I've been on 2 grains a day for about 3? months now. For so long I

> felt so much better I thought I had hit my optimum dose, but maybe I

> need to add some. I split the pills and take 4 mini doses a day.

> Lately I've been tired some and I feel like I take too long to learn

> things. I can't afford to have any tests done right now so the

> only thing I can use to guage is the way I feel.

> A few months ago I couldn't function at all, I switched to armour

> and

> noticed an immediate improvement. I upped the dose from 1 and 1/2

> grains to 2 about 3 months ago, I believe. My hair still seems dry,

> but my nails have improved a lot. I still seem to be prone to

> weepiness, so maybe I need to go with another 1/2 grain? What do

> you think?

>

> 8)

January 4, 2004

Three months is long enough to know that you are stable on 2..... I'd add

another 1/2 grain, a 5 th dose... and watch closely to see how your body

reacts....

How are your adrenals?

Topper () *who may have taken a bit too much thyroid, but

understands what happened and is not shy of trying again in a few months

at a smaller dose*

On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 23:36:45 -0000 " patty blake "

writes:

> I've been on 2 grains a day for about 3? months now. For so long I

> felt so much better I thought I had hit my optimum dose, but maybe I

> need to add some. I split the pills and take 4 mini doses a day.

> Lately I've been tired some and I feel like I take too long to learn

> things. I can't afford to have any tests done right now so the

> only thing I can use to guage is the way I feel.

> A few months ago I couldn't function at all, I switched to armour

> and

> noticed an immediate improvement. I upped the dose from 1 and 1/2

> grains to 2 about 3 months ago, I believe. My hair still seems dry,

> but my nails have improved a lot. I still seem to be prone to

> weepiness, so maybe I need to go with another 1/2 grain? What do

> you think?

>

> 8)

January 4, 2004

Three months is long enough to know that you are stable on 2..... I'd add

another 1/2 grain, a 5 th dose... and watch closely to see how your body

reacts....

How are your adrenals?

Topper () *who may have taken a bit too much thyroid, but

understands what happened and is not shy of trying again in a few months

at a smaller dose*

On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 23:36:45 -0000 " patty blake "

writes:

> I've been on 2 grains a day for about 3? months now. For so long I

> felt so much better I thought I had hit my optimum dose, but maybe I

> need to add some. I split the pills and take 4 mini doses a day.

> Lately I've been tired some and I feel like I take too long to learn

> things. I can't afford to have any tests done right now so the

> only thing I can use to guage is the way I feel.

> A few months ago I couldn't function at all, I switched to armour

> and

> noticed an immediate improvement. I upped the dose from 1 and 1/2

> grains to 2 about 3 months ago, I believe. My hair still seems dry,

> but my nails have improved a lot. I still seem to be prone to

> weepiness, so maybe I need to go with another 1/2 grain? What do

> you think?

>

> 8)

January 4, 2004

I was beginning to think I was the only one who was hot. Nice to know I'm

not.

-- body temp?

after years of being hot all the time, now it seems like I'm freezing!

I also have finally lost some weight. Is it possible my dose is too

high, or is it not high enough? The brain fog has been slowly

lifting, though I still don't feel 100%, and my fatigue has improved,

but is it possible I need to up my dose?

8)

January 4, 2004

I was beginning to think I was the only one who was hot. Nice to know I'm

not.

-- body temp?

after years of being hot all the time, now it seems like I'm freezing!

I also have finally lost some weight. Is it possible my dose is too

high, or is it not high enough? The brain fog has been slowly

lifting, though I still don't feel 100%, and my fatigue has improved,

but is it possible I need to up my dose?

8)

January 4, 2004

I'm not really sure. I'm not sure I understand how to tell. What

things should I be looking for?

8)

> Three months is long enough to know that you are stable on 2.....

I'd add

> another 1/2 grain, a 5 th dose... and watch closely to see how your body

> reacts....

>

> How are your adrenals?

>

> Topper () *who may have taken a bit too much thyroid, but

> understands what happened and is not shy of trying again in a few months

> at a smaller dose*

>

January 4, 2004

I'm not really sure. I'm not sure I understand how to tell. What

things should I be looking for?

8)

> Three months is long enough to know that you are stable on 2.....

I'd add

> another 1/2 grain, a 5 th dose... and watch closely to see how your body

> reacts....

>

> How are your adrenals?

>

> Topper () *who may have taken a bit too much thyroid, but

> understands what happened and is not shy of trying again in a few months

> at a smaller dose*

>

January 4, 2004

heh. For several years running in 'snow country' I never wore a

coat...couldn't stand the 'heat.' Now, I'm the opposite, freezing

when nobody else is.

8)

> I was beginning to think I was the only one who was hot. Nice to

know I'm

> not.

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

>]

January 4, 2004

heh. For several years running in 'snow country' I never wore a

coat...couldn't stand the 'heat.' Now, I'm the opposite, freezing

when nobody else is.

8)

> I was beginning to think I was the only one who was hot. Nice to

know I'm

> not.

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

>]

January 4, 2004

Patti, if those symptoms were mine, yes, I would up again. Going up

1/2 grain might do the trick. Stay on it for at least 5 weeks to

give the T4 time to build it's maximum levels---that way you can see

if it's enough by your symptoms (or too much). AFter 2 1/2 grain,

I'd personally only go up 1/4 grain at a time.

The weepiness you speak of----are you peri-meno? Is the weepiness

cyclical?

Also, are you on iron supplements? Have you ever had anemia??

Janie aka ThyroDiva

> I've been on 2 grains a day for about 3? months now. For so long I

> felt so much better I thought I had hit my optimum dose, but maybe

>I need to add some. I split the pills and take 4 mini doses a day.

> Lately I've been tired some and I feel like I take too long to

>learn

January 4, 2004

Patti, if those symptoms were mine, yes, I would up again. Going up

1/2 grain might do the trick. Stay on it for at least 5 weeks to

give the T4 time to build it's maximum levels---that way you can see

if it's enough by your symptoms (or too much). AFter 2 1/2 grain,

I'd personally only go up 1/4 grain at a time.

The weepiness you speak of----are you peri-meno? Is the weepiness

cyclical?

Also, are you on iron supplements? Have you ever had anemia??

Janie aka ThyroDiva

> I've been on 2 grains a day for about 3? months now. For so long I

> felt so much better I thought I had hit my optimum dose, but maybe

>I need to add some. I split the pills and take 4 mini doses a day.

> Lately I've been tired some and I feel like I take too long to

>learn

January 4, 2004

a couple of years ago, my endo and my gyno were at odds as to whether

I was in the pre-menopause stage or not. I have no idea. I do know

since I switched to armour my periods are no longer so heavy I can't

leave the house! I get horribly weepy right before/during my period.

Since I also have a 7 year old son after something like 13 years of

'sterility,' I don't put much stock in anything a doctor tells me!

8)

> Patti, if those symptoms were mine, yes, I would up again. Going up

> 1/2 grain might do the trick. Stay on it for at least 5 weeks to

> give the T4 time to build it's maximum levels---that way you can see

> if it's enough by your symptoms (or too much). AFter 2 1/2 grain,

> I'd personally only go up 1/4 grain at a time.

>

> The weepiness you speak of----are you peri-meno? Is the weepiness

> cyclical?

>

> Also, are you on iron supplements? Have you ever had anemia??

>

> Janie aka ThyroDiva

>

> > I've been on 2 grains a day for about 3? months now. For so long I

> > felt so much better I thought I had hit my optimum dose, but maybe

> >I need to add some. I split the pills and take 4 mini doses a day.

> > Lately I've been tired some and I feel like I take too long to

> >learn

January 4, 2004

a couple of years ago, my endo and my gyno were at odds as to whether

I was in the pre-menopause stage or not. I have no idea. I do know

since I switched to armour my periods are no longer so heavy I can't

leave the house! I get horribly weepy right before/during my period.

Since I also have a 7 year old son after something like 13 years of

'sterility,' I don't put much stock in anything a doctor tells me!

8)

> Patti, if those symptoms were mine, yes, I would up again. Going up

> 1/2 grain might do the trick. Stay on it for at least 5 weeks to

> give the T4 time to build it's maximum levels---that way you can see

> if it's enough by your symptoms (or too much). AFter 2 1/2 grain,

> I'd personally only go up 1/4 grain at a time.

>

> The weepiness you speak of----are you peri-meno? Is the weepiness

> cyclical?

>

> Also, are you on iron supplements? Have you ever had anemia??

>

> Janie aka ThyroDiva

>

> > I've been on 2 grains a day for about 3? months now. For so long I

> > felt so much better I thought I had hit my optimum dose, but maybe

> >I need to add some. I split the pills and take 4 mini doses a day.

> > Lately I've been tired some and I feel like I take too long to

> >learn

January 4, 2004

a couple of years ago, my endo and my gyno were at odds as to whether

I was in the pre-menopause stage or not. I have no idea. I do know

since I switched to armour my periods are no longer so heavy I can't

leave the house! I get horribly weepy right before/during my period.

Since I also have a 7 year old son after something like 13 years of

'sterility,' I don't put much stock in anything a doctor tells me!

8)

> Patti, if those symptoms were mine, yes, I would up again. Going up

> 1/2 grain might do the trick. Stay on it for at least 5 weeks to

> give the T4 time to build it's maximum levels---that way you can see

> if it's enough by your symptoms (or too much). AFter 2 1/2 grain,

> I'd personally only go up 1/4 grain at a time.

>

> The weepiness you speak of----are you peri-meno? Is the weepiness

> cyclical?

>

> Also, are you on iron supplements? Have you ever had anemia??

>

> Janie aka ThyroDiva

>

> > I've been on 2 grains a day for about 3? months now. For so long I

> > felt so much better I thought I had hit my optimum dose, but maybe

> >I need to add some. I split the pills and take 4 mini doses a day.

> > Lately I've been tired some and I feel like I take too long to

> >learn

January 5, 2004

Patty,

It varies with the person....

Things can include any of the following:

Increased pulse rate

Heart palps

Intolerance to heat, to the point of seeking out cold

Increased/insatiable appetite

Rapid, unexplained weight loss

Muscle twitching

Increased thirst, increased perspiration, decreased urine output

Inability to fall asleep and stay asleep

Overheating during sleep

Other folks saying that you feel hot

'Hyper brain' - one of my symptoms is my brain goes into overdrive, I'm

more productive and inventive when hyper

.... all kinds of stuff to watch for... These are the ones that are

coming to mind right now, the ones that I've been experiencing over the

last couple of weeks. They didn't all start at once... I had the first

ones, increased heart rate following by increased appetite... the thirst

didn't kick in until I was already getting dehydrated.

The best answer that seems to fit is that the weight I lost (which can

reduce the amount of thyroid needed) combined with the increase proved to

be too much for my system to handle... I'm a sensitive type *smile*

Folk here will help you, just describe what, if anything, that you are

noticing different after your increase... and if you feel 'wrong' and

that it's not right.. drop back to the previous dose.

Keep in mind that it takes 5 or 6 weeks for the T4 to build in your

system.. so it could take a month before any symptoms of too much med

show... In my case I was showing mild symptoms after three days and

ignored them... I got to smart for myself... I'll not make that mistake

again... Gots to pay attention to your body!

Topper ()

On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 04:07:49 -0000 " patty blake "

writes:

> I'm not really sure. I'm not sure I understand how to tell. What

> things should I be looking for?

>

> 8)

January 5, 2004

Patty,

It varies with the person....

Things can include any of the following:

Increased pulse rate

Heart palps

Intolerance to heat, to the point of seeking out cold

Increased/insatiable appetite

Rapid, unexplained weight loss

Muscle twitching

Increased thirst, increased perspiration, decreased urine output

Inability to fall asleep and stay asleep

Overheating during sleep

Other folks saying that you feel hot

'Hyper brain' - one of my symptoms is my brain goes into overdrive, I'm

more productive and inventive when hyper

.... all kinds of stuff to watch for... These are the ones that are

coming to mind right now, the ones that I've been experiencing over the

last couple of weeks. They didn't all start at once... I had the first

ones, increased heart rate following by increased appetite... the thirst

didn't kick in until I was already getting dehydrated.

The best answer that seems to fit is that the weight I lost (which can

reduce the amount of thyroid needed) combined with the increase proved to

be too much for my system to handle... I'm a sensitive type *smile*

Folk here will help you, just describe what, if anything, that you are

noticing different after your increase... and if you feel 'wrong' and

that it's not right.. drop back to the previous dose.

Keep in mind that it takes 5 or 6 weeks for the T4 to build in your

system.. so it could take a month before any symptoms of too much med

show... In my case I was showing mild symptoms after three days and

ignored them... I got to smart for myself... I'll not make that mistake

again... Gots to pay attention to your body!

Topper ()

On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 04:07:49 -0000 " patty blake "

writes:

> I'm not really sure. I'm not sure I understand how to tell. What

> things should I be looking for?

>

> 8)

January 5, 2004

Oh.. no... you're not the only ones that are hot.... I'm hot most of the

time and hotter some of the time.. and living in a house with a person on

blood thinners that is chilled all the time is just terrible... Night

before last he's even wearing a jacket in the house, shoes, socks.. all

warmly dressed and I'm barefoot and wishing I had shorts.. The house temp

is kept at 80..... Last night I squirreled away in the office and kept

opening a window to stick my face up to the screen to cool off (we're

below zero here now).

Topper ()

On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 21:51:17 -0600 (Central Standard Time) " jreid69 "

writes:

> I was beginning to think I was the only one who was hot. Nice to

> know I'm

> not.

>

January 5, 2004

Oh.. no... you're not the only ones that are hot.... I'm hot most of the

time and hotter some of the time.. and living in a house with a person on

blood thinners that is chilled all the time is just terrible... Night

before last he's even wearing a jacket in the house, shoes, socks.. all

warmly dressed and I'm barefoot and wishing I had shorts.. The house temp

is kept at 80..... Last night I squirreled away in the office and kept

opening a window to stick my face up to the screen to cool off (we're

below zero here now).

Topper ()

On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 21:51:17 -0600 (Central Standard Time) " jreid69 "

writes:

> I was beginning to think I was the only one who was hot. Nice to

> know I'm

> not.

>

January 5, 2004

Oh.. no... you're not the only ones that are hot.... I'm hot most of the

time and hotter some of the time.. and living in a house with a person on

blood thinners that is chilled all the time is just terrible... Night

before last he's even wearing a jacket in the house, shoes, socks.. all

warmly dressed and I'm barefoot and wishing I had shorts.. The house temp

is kept at 80..... Last night I squirreled away in the office and kept

opening a window to stick my face up to the screen to cool off (we're

below zero here now).

Topper ()

On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 21:51:17 -0600 (Central Standard Time) " jreid69 "

writes:

> I was beginning to think I was the only one who was hot. Nice to

> know I'm

> not.

>

January 5, 2004

When I was going through hyper storm I was running the air conditioner in

my truck at work to keep the windows from frosting up inside during

sub-zero weather, without a coat.... I was a hoot. I'd mentioned to my

boss that the heat in that truck wasnt' working that fall but it slipped

his mind and we didnt' get it fixed.. but as my hyper got worse I was

pumping out more heat, I just didn't turn on the heater. Then the windows

started frosting on the inside because of all the moisture coming off of

me... so I turned on the AC to pull the moisture out of the air and keep

it comfy. So it was about two weeks before my RAI when the boss wanted to

hitch a ride with me downtown for a meeting (I was a money courier and

zipped around town picking up and dropping of money) We're about a block

from the shop and he's teasing me about not have a coat on... then he's

fidgeting asking when the heat is gonna start and he's reaching up to

feel if the air coming out of the dash is getting warmer, and notices

I've got th AC on... hehehehehe The truck went in for repairs the next

day!hehehehehe but I still kept using the AC until about 2 months after

the RAI cause I was still pumping out too much heat.

Topper ()

On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 05:20:05 -0000 " patty blake "

writes:

> heh. For several years running in 'snow country' I never wore a

> coat...couldn't stand the 'heat.' Now, I'm the opposite, freezing

> when nobody else is.

>

> 8)

January 5, 2004