Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 > > >I am still curious to hear if anyone fifty or so has had HRT recommended >and are you on it? My " young " internist seemed to indicate that I should >remain on HRT in spite of large fibroids...I will see my gynecologist on >Tuesday, but he originally prescribed these hormones (femhrt) -There is >major heart disease and oseoporosis after menopause in my family. I >understand it is very difficult to wean off these hormones..Does anyone >know of an HRT group, also?---- I started on HRT when I was 43 after trying herbal methods with no relief. Now 4 years later I learned that I have a 7 cm. fibroid. Upon reading that estrogen is thought to contribute to the fibroids I decided to weaning myself off of the estrogen and progesterone, after talking to my doctor. I knew I couldn't just quit as I get migraines without them. I was in the process of doing this and was on Augestin to control my heavy bleeding when I passed out from a loss of blood. I ended up in the hospital getting 2 pints of blood. While there the doctor told me that my biopsy from a couple weeks earlier showed that I had such low estrogen that my uterus was " shredding " . He then put me on IV estrogen. After getting out I was given birth control pills to control the bleeding but no estrogen which didn't make much sense to me as the BC pills don't have much, but then I was playing doctor roulette with the Kaiser system. They worked to stop the bleeding but I slipped back into the migraines so I started taking the estrogen again. I've gone to a new doctor this past week. Her suggestions were, hysterectomy, UAE or going back on the HRT in even higher doses. Since I am still very anemic and weak I opted for the HRT for now until I can get stronger, build up my blood and get out of school. (I'm a teacher) I do have to say that I'm scared this will cause my fibroid to grow but without the estrogen I have no quality of life so it's the lesser of two evils at this point. Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 I am new with fibroids. Please tell me what's HRT and UAE. Thank you. At 03:30 PM 5/22/01 -0700, you wrote: > > > > > >I am still curious to hear if anyone fifty or so has had HRT recommended > >and are you on it? My " young " internist seemed to indicate that I should > >remain on HRT in spite of large fibroids...I will see my gynecologist on > >Tuesday, but he originally prescribed these hormones (femhrt) -There is > >major heart disease and oseoporosis after menopause in my family. I > >understand it is very difficult to wean off these hormones..Does anyone > >know of an HRT group, also?---- > > > >I started on HRT when I was 43 after trying herbal methods with no >relief. Now 4 years later I learned that I have a 7 cm. fibroid. Upon >reading that estrogen is thought to contribute to the fibroids I >decided to weaning myself off of the estrogen and progesterone, after >talking to my doctor. I knew I couldn't just quit as I get migraines >without them. I was in the process of doing this and was on Augestin >to control my heavy bleeding when I passed out from a loss of blood. >I ended up in the hospital getting 2 pints of blood. While there the >doctor told me that my biopsy from a couple weeks earlier showed that >I had such low estrogen that my uterus was " shredding " . He then put >me on IV estrogen. After getting out I was given birth control pills >to control the bleeding but no estrogen which didn't make much sense >to me as the BC pills don't have much, but then I was playing doctor >roulette with the Kaiser system. They worked to stop the bleeding >but I slipped back into the migraines so I started taking the >estrogen again. I've gone to a new doctor this past week. Her >suggestions were, hysterectomy, UAE or going back on the HRT in even >higher doses. Since I am still very anemic and weak I opted for the >HRT for now until I can get stronger, build up my blood and get out >of school. (I'm a teacher) I do have to say that I'm scared this will >cause my fibroid to grow but without the estrogen I have no quality >of life so it's the lesser of two evils at this point. > >Pam > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 I am new with fibroids. Please tell me what's HRT and UAE. Thank you. At 03:30 PM 5/22/01 -0700, you wrote: > > > > > >I am still curious to hear if anyone fifty or so has had HRT recommended > >and are you on it? My " young " internist seemed to indicate that I should > >remain on HRT in spite of large fibroids...I will see my gynecologist on > >Tuesday, but he originally prescribed these hormones (femhrt) -There is > >major heart disease and oseoporosis after menopause in my family. I > >understand it is very difficult to wean off these hormones..Does anyone > >know of an HRT group, also?---- > > > >I started on HRT when I was 43 after trying herbal methods with no >relief. Now 4 years later I learned that I have a 7 cm. fibroid. Upon >reading that estrogen is thought to contribute to the fibroids I >decided to weaning myself off of the estrogen and progesterone, after >talking to my doctor. I knew I couldn't just quit as I get migraines >without them. I was in the process of doing this and was on Augestin >to control my heavy bleeding when I passed out from a loss of blood. >I ended up in the hospital getting 2 pints of blood. While there the >doctor told me that my biopsy from a couple weeks earlier showed that >I had such low estrogen that my uterus was " shredding " . He then put >me on IV estrogen. After getting out I was given birth control pills >to control the bleeding but no estrogen which didn't make much sense >to me as the BC pills don't have much, but then I was playing doctor >roulette with the Kaiser system. They worked to stop the bleeding >but I slipped back into the migraines so I started taking the >estrogen again. I've gone to a new doctor this past week. Her >suggestions were, hysterectomy, UAE or going back on the HRT in even >higher doses. Since I am still very anemic and weak I opted for the >HRT for now until I can get stronger, build up my blood and get out >of school. (I'm a teacher) I do have to say that I'm scared this will >cause my fibroid to grow but without the estrogen I have no quality >of life so it's the lesser of two evils at this point. > >Pam > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 > I started on HRT when I was 43 after trying herbal methods with no > relief. Now 4 years later I learned that I have a 7 cm. fibroid. Upon > reading that estrogen is thought to contribute to the fibroids I > decided to weaning myself off of the estrogen and progesterone, after > talking to my doctor. I knew I couldn't just quit as I get migraines > without them. I was in the process of doing this and was on Augestin > to control my heavy bleeding when I passed out from a loss of blood. > I ended up in the hospital getting 2 pints of blood. While there the > doctor told me that my biopsy from a couple weeks earlier showed that > I had such low estrogen that my uterus was " shredding " . He then put > me on IV estrogen. After getting out I was given birth control pills > to control the bleeding but no estrogen which didn't make much sense > to me as the BC pills don't have much, but then I was playing doctor > roulette with the Kaiser system. They worked to stop the bleeding > but I slipped back into the migraines so I started taking the > estrogen again. I've gone to a new doctor this past week. Her > suggestions were, hysterectomy, UAE or going back on the HRT in even > higher doses. Since I am still very anemic and weak I opted for the > HRT for now until I can get stronger, build up my blood and get out > of school. (I'm a teacher) I do have to say that I'm scared this will > cause my fibroid to grow but without the estrogen I have no quality > of life so it's the lesser of two evils at this point. > > Pam > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 > I started on HRT when I was 43 after trying herbal methods with no > relief. Now 4 years later I learned that I have a 7 cm. fibroid. Upon > reading that estrogen is thought to contribute to the fibroids I > decided to weaning myself off of the estrogen and progesterone, after > talking to my doctor. I knew I couldn't just quit as I get migraines > without them. I was in the process of doing this and was on Augestin > to control my heavy bleeding when I passed out from a loss of blood. > I ended up in the hospital getting 2 pints of blood. While there the > doctor told me that my biopsy from a couple weeks earlier showed that > I had such low estrogen that my uterus was " shredding " . He then put > me on IV estrogen. After getting out I was given birth control pills > to control the bleeding but no estrogen which didn't make much sense > to me as the BC pills don't have much, but then I was playing doctor > roulette with the Kaiser system. They worked to stop the bleeding > but I slipped back into the migraines so I started taking the > estrogen again. I've gone to a new doctor this past week. Her > suggestions were, hysterectomy, UAE or going back on the HRT in even > higher doses. Since I am still very anemic and weak I opted for the > HRT for now until I can get stronger, build up my blood and get out > of school. (I'm a teacher) I do have to say that I'm scared this will > cause my fibroid to grow but without the estrogen I have no quality > of life so it's the lesser of two evils at this point. > > Pam > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 HRT is " hormone replacement therapy " (taking estrogen, etc.) and UAE is " uterine artery embolization " (a minimally invasive treatment for fibroids performed by Interventional Radiologists). If this is not enough information, let me know. Both are discussed on practically a daily basis in this group and the messages are archived. B. Re: HRT with Fibroids (was UAE and subserosal fibroids) I am new with fibroids. Please tell me what's HRT and UAE. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 HRT is " hormone replacement therapy " (taking estrogen, etc.) and UAE is " uterine artery embolization " (a minimally invasive treatment for fibroids performed by Interventional Radiologists). If this is not enough information, let me know. Both are discussed on practically a daily basis in this group and the messages are archived. B. Re: HRT with Fibroids (was UAE and subserosal fibroids) I am new with fibroids. Please tell me what's HRT and UAE. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 Here are three good books on Natural Hormone Replacement Therapy (NHRT). NHRT are hormones that exactly match human hormones. The big drug companies are not interested in using these because they aren't patentable making them unprofitable. Regular HRT uses hormones from horses or chemically altered hormones made from the same base materials as natural hormones (I think wild yam root and/or soybeans). The alterations are neccessary to obtain a patent. These altered hormones have a chemical make-up not found in nature, which some doctors feel leads to their many side effects and increased cancer risk. NHRT is used more extensively in Europe. You might consider using the natural human hormone, estriol, which some studies have shown inhibits tumor growth and may protect against breast cancer. It is the weakest to the three major estrogens that women produce. " Natural Woman, Natural Menopause " Marcus Laux, Conrad; Paperback; @ $11.70 each from amazon.com " Natural Hormone Replacement For Women Over 45 " V. , Morgenthaler (Contributor); Paperback; @ $8.95 each from amazon.com " Hormonal Health " by Dr. Colgan. This book contains information on a wide variety of hormones and their effect on health. All these books give tips and resources on finding an NHRT experienced doctor. A drawback to making your fibroids grow and having to have a hysterectomy is that the uterus produces hormones called prostaglandins which regulate blood pressure and protect the heart. According to Dr. Colgan, hysterectom increases the risk of cardiovascular disease by up to 500%. Tish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 Here are three good books on Natural Hormone Replacement Therapy (NHRT). NHRT are hormones that exactly match human hormones. The big drug companies are not interested in using these because they aren't patentable making them unprofitable. Regular HRT uses hormones from horses or chemically altered hormones made from the same base materials as natural hormones (I think wild yam root and/or soybeans). The alterations are neccessary to obtain a patent. These altered hormones have a chemical make-up not found in nature, which some doctors feel leads to their many side effects and increased cancer risk. NHRT is used more extensively in Europe. You might consider using the natural human hormone, estriol, which some studies have shown inhibits tumor growth and may protect against breast cancer. It is the weakest to the three major estrogens that women produce. " Natural Woman, Natural Menopause " Marcus Laux, Conrad; Paperback; @ $11.70 each from amazon.com " Natural Hormone Replacement For Women Over 45 " V. , Morgenthaler (Contributor); Paperback; @ $8.95 each from amazon.com " Hormonal Health " by Dr. Colgan. This book contains information on a wide variety of hormones and their effect on health. All these books give tips and resources on finding an NHRT experienced doctor. A drawback to making your fibroids grow and having to have a hysterectomy is that the uterus produces hormones called prostaglandins which regulate blood pressure and protect the heart. According to Dr. Colgan, hysterectom increases the risk of cardiovascular disease by up to 500%. Tish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 Tish Thanks for your very interesting information. The books sound interesting...I will look into them very soon. I saw my gynecologist yesterday. We talked about several options. I will have repeat ultrasound next week to get a comparison from one done a year ago. He is still not sure that hormones are causing fibroid growth, as it is a small dose. I guess we will find out for sure next week... Thanks again, Original Message ----- To: <uterinefibroids > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 9:53 AM Subject: Re: HRT with Fibroids (was UAE and subserosal fibroids) > Here are three good books on Natural Hormone Replacement Therapy > (NHRT). NHRT are hormones that exactly match human hormones. The big > drug companies are not interested in using these because they aren't > patentable making them unprofitable. Regular HRT uses hormones from > horses or chemically altered hormones made from the same base > materials as natural hormones (I think wild yam root and/or > soybeans). The alterations are neccessary to obtain a patent. These > altered hormones have a chemical make-up not found in nature, which > some doctors feel leads to their many side effects and increased > cancer risk. NHRT is used more extensively in Europe. > > You might consider using the natural human hormone, estriol, which > some studies have shown inhibits tumor growth and may protect against > breast cancer. It is the weakest to the three major estrogens that > women produce. > > > " Natural Woman, Natural Menopause " > Marcus Laux, Conrad; Paperback; @ $11.70 each from > amazon.com > > " Natural Hormone Replacement For Women Over 45 " > V. , Morgenthaler (Contributor); Paperback; @ > $8.95 each from amazon.com > > " Hormonal Health " by Dr. Colgan. This book contains > information on a wide variety of hormones and their effect on health. > > All these books give tips and resources on finding an NHRT > experienced doctor. > > A drawback to making your fibroids grow and having to have a > hysterectomy is that the uterus produces hormones called > prostaglandins which regulate blood pressure and protect the heart. > According to Dr. Colgan, hysterectomy increases the risk of > cardiovascular disease by up to 500%. > > > Tish > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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