Re: Thyroid/Lyme connection--Jamy

[Guest guest]

Ticks are not the only way this is spread....mosquitoes spread the

disease as well to humans according to my doctor......sue in TN

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> I am never in the woods and live in the city. Wouldn't I know if I

had been bitten by a tick? BTW, I have no pets.

[Guest guest]

> Ticks are not the only way this is spread....mosquitoes spread the

> disease as well to humans according to my doctor......sue in TN

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Sheesh! Can't catch a break, can you?? My son was eaten alive by

mosquitos 2 summers ago while crows and wildlife seemed to be dying

from West Nile...he had a bit of a fever and was ill for a couple of

days, as did some of his friends who had been with him that

afternnon/evening at the forest preserve. We figured it was a mild

case of West Nile and now he may have the antibodies. This year,

he's hypothyroid...I guess he should have himself tested next time he

goes for bloodwork.

[Guest guest]

No mosquitoes where I Lived either. The advantage of the desert.

Jamy

Patient Advocate/Board Member American Thyroid Patients

Website:http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/California_Thyroid_Groups/

Re: Thyroid/Lyme connection--Jamy

Ticks are not the only way this is spread....mosquitoes spread the

disease as well to humans according to my doctor......sue in TN

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> I am never in the woods and live in the city. Wouldn't I know if I

had been bitten by a tick? BTW, I have no pets.

[Guest guest]

I worked for our state's mosquito control district for five years. We

collected ticks to check for lyme disease but mosquitos were not

considered a vector. As far as I know there are only certain species of

ticks that carry... and then only those that have been exposed

themselves.

Topper ()

On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 16:31:31 -0000 " suzizink "

writes:

> Ticks are not the only way this is spread....mosquitoes spread the

> disease as well to humans according to my doctor......sue in TN

[Guest guest]

Did you ever find Lyme disease?

Re: Re: Thyroid/Lyme connection--Jamy

I worked for our state's mosquito control district for five years. We

collected ticks to check for lyme disease but mosquitos were not

considered a vector. As far as I know there are only certain species of

ticks that carry... and then only those that have been exposed

themselves.

Topper ()

On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 16:31:31 -0000 " suzizink "

writes:

> Ticks are not the only way this is spread....mosquitoes spread the

> disease as well to humans according to my doctor......sue in TN

[Guest guest]

apparently not! (not sure what a vector is, but I would bet it means

carrier..LOL)

> Did you ever find Lyme disease?

> I worked for our state's mosquito control district for five

years. We

> collected ticks to check for lyme disease but mosquitos were not

> considered a vector.

[Guest guest]

Luckily AZ doesn't have those pesky things.

Re: Thyroid/Lyme connection--Jamy

apparently not! (not sure what a vector is, but I would bet it means

carrier..LOL)

> Did you ever find Lyme disease?

> I worked for our state's mosquito control district for five

years. We

> collected ticks to check for lyme disease but mosquitos were not

> considered a vector.

[Guest guest]

The Colorado mountains have ticks and Rocky Mountain Spotted fever

but no Lyme Disease.

Louise

> > Did you ever find Lyme disease?

>

> > I worked for our state's mosquito control district for five

> years. We

> > collected ticks to check for lyme disease but mosquitos were

not

> > considered a vector.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Not in this area.... the metro area, 7 counties around Mpls and St. .

Topper ()

On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 13:44:44 -0800 " JAMY "

writes:

> Did you ever find Lyme disease?

[Guest guest]

Vector.... simple terms in this case... it's the insect that carries the

parasite between two mammals.... it takes two hosts and the mosquito or

tick in between.... so, for equine encephalitis... the parasite is in the

horse... then the mosquito bites the horse... then it bites a human....

the parasite does it's thing in the human, the mosquito bites the person

then a horse.... and the stuff is spread... with West Nile... so far they

are saying it's between humans and birds or squirrels..... With Lyme

carrying ticks, if I remember correctly is a certain species of tick and

deer... then humans.

That's why they are having folks report unusual bird and squirrel

deaths... to track the spread of West Nile... there are folks that have

been bitten by a carrier... but may not even become ill... just some

folks are exposed to poison ivy and have no problems.... yet others can

be bitten and become very ill and die....

With ticks... I've not yet met anyone in this area that has been tested

as positive for Lyme...

Topper ()

On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 22:30:29 -0000 " astrodiana "

writes:

> apparently not! (not sure what a vector is, but I would bet it means

> carrier..LOL)

[Guest guest]

Michigans' State bird is the Mosquito ahhhhh LOL They are heavy in our state.

: (

PattiSue

Re: Thyroid/Lyme connection--Jamy

apparently not! (not sure what a vector is, but I would bet it means

carrier..LOL)

> Did you ever find Lyme disease?

> I worked for our state's mosquito control district for five

years. We

> collected ticks to check for lyme disease but mosquitos were not

> considered a vector.

[Guest guest]

Dang you mean Minnesota AND Michigan both have the SAME state

bird?!??!?!?!?!?!

Louise

> > Did you ever find Lyme disease?

>

> > I worked for our state's mosquito control district for five

> years. We

> > collected ticks to check for lyme disease but mosquitos

were not

> > considered a vector.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Louise,

Our dogs had Lyme Disease. They were loaded with ticks when we

got him. The weird part is that the ticks had apparently migrated from

another dog on another property and we lived in Arizona. There was nothing

on the property that would support the ticks other than the dogs. The dogs

were tested and Ehrlichiosis was the specific disease, but in canines, that

can develop into Lyme Disease. I wonder if the same thing can happen to

people?

This whole discussion now has me wondering if the tick bites I

received could have resulted in Lyme Disease. Good thing I see my doctor

in a couple of weeks, eh?

Dianne

At 12:37 AM 1/4/04 +0000, you wrote:

>The Colorado mountains have ticks and Rocky Mountain Spotted fever

>but no Lyme Disease.

>

>Louise

>

[Guest guest]

It seems everyone in the UK I have talked to has tested positive though!

Re: Re: Thyroid/Lyme connection--Jamy

Vector.... simple terms in this case... it's the insect that carries the

parasite between two mammals.... it takes two hosts and the mosquito or

tick in between.... so, for equine encephalitis... the parasite is in the

horse... then the mosquito bites the horse... then it bites a human....

the parasite does it's thing in the human, the mosquito bites the person

then a horse.... and the stuff is spread... with West Nile... so far they

are saying it's between humans and birds or squirrels..... With Lyme

carrying ticks, if I remember correctly is a certain species of tick and

deer... then humans.

That's why they are having folks report unusual bird and squirrel

deaths... to track the spread of West Nile... there are folks that have

been bitten by a carrier... but may not even become ill... just some

folks are exposed to poison ivy and have no problems.... yet others can

be bitten and become very ill and die....

With ticks... I've not yet met anyone in this area that has been tested

as positive for Lyme...

Topper ()

On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 22:30:29 -0000 " astrodiana "

writes:

> apparently not! (not sure what a vector is, but I would bet it means

> carrier..LOL)

[Guest guest]

I believe WI claims it as their state " bird " .......LOL...that is the

state my daughter was in when she contacted Lyme disease.......sue in

TN

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Dang you mean Minnesota AND Michigan both have the SAME state

> bird?!??!?!?!?!?!

[Guest guest]

The fact that almost everyone tested in the UK seems to be positive makes me

suspicious of the testing process, after all the UK is not teeming with either

ticks or mosquitoes, although we do have them - just not in sufficient

quantities for a large section of the population to be infected.

Having said that, after doing a lot of reading about Lyme's, I am sure that this

is what I have. Although I live in the UK now, for 20 years I lived in South

Africa and my symptoms started straight after a camping trip in the mountains

there.

I did not have the classic 'bullseye' rash but I did have a profuse rash all

over the top half of my body. Shortly after that I had hives all down my legs,

vertigo, itchy eyes (which was said to be an allergy by my doc). Shortly after

that I had aching all over, tested high for prolactin, lost a lot of weight and

finally diagnosed with thyroiditis.

Over the last couple of years, when I have been prescribed antibiotics for chest

infections I have felt so much better. I am thinking now that the antibiotics

may have been helping to fight the Lyme's but, of course, given for a chest

infection the course of antibiotics was too short to completely fight the Lyme's

- but could have just been long enough to show a slight improvement?

Last year I asked my doc if he would test me for Lyme's, instead her referred me

to a specialist physician who told me the classis - it's all in your head.

Lynda (in the UK)

----- Original Message -----

From: JAMY

It seems everyone in the UK I have talked to has tested positive though!

[Guest guest]

The fact that almost everyone tested in the UK seems to be positive makes me

suspicious of the testing process, after all the UK is not teeming with either

ticks or mosquitoes, although we do have them - just not in sufficient

quantities for a large section of the population to be infected.

Having said that, after doing a lot of reading about Lyme's, I am sure that this

is what I have. Although I live in the UK now, for 20 years I lived in South

Africa and my symptoms started straight after a camping trip in the mountains

there.

I did not have the classic 'bullseye' rash but I did have a profuse rash all

over the top half of my body. Shortly after that I had hives all down my legs,

vertigo, itchy eyes (which was said to be an allergy by my doc). Shortly after

that I had aching all over, tested high for prolactin, lost a lot of weight and

finally diagnosed with thyroiditis.

Over the last couple of years, when I have been prescribed antibiotics for chest

infections I have felt so much better. I am thinking now that the antibiotics

may have been helping to fight the Lyme's but, of course, given for a chest

infection the course of antibiotics was too short to completely fight the Lyme's

- but could have just been long enough to show a slight improvement?

Last year I asked my doc if he would test me for Lyme's, instead her referred me

to a specialist physician who told me the classis - it's all in your head.

Lynda (in the UK)

----- Original Message -----

From: JAMY

It seems everyone in the UK I have talked to has tested positive though!

[Guest guest]

The fact that almost everyone tested in the UK seems to be positive makes me

suspicious of the testing process, after all the UK is not teeming with either

ticks or mosquitoes, although we do have them - just not in sufficient

quantities for a large section of the population to be infected.

Having said that, after doing a lot of reading about Lyme's, I am sure that this

is what I have. Although I live in the UK now, for 20 years I lived in South

Africa and my symptoms started straight after a camping trip in the mountains

there.

I did not have the classic 'bullseye' rash but I did have a profuse rash all

over the top half of my body. Shortly after that I had hives all down my legs,

vertigo, itchy eyes (which was said to be an allergy by my doc). Shortly after

that I had aching all over, tested high for prolactin, lost a lot of weight and

finally diagnosed with thyroiditis.

Over the last couple of years, when I have been prescribed antibiotics for chest

infections I have felt so much better. I am thinking now that the antibiotics

may have been helping to fight the Lyme's but, of course, given for a chest

infection the course of antibiotics was too short to completely fight the Lyme's

- but could have just been long enough to show a slight improvement?

Last year I asked my doc if he would test me for Lyme's, instead her referred me

to a specialist physician who told me the classis - it's all in your head.

Lynda (in the UK)

----- Original Message -----

From: JAMY

It seems everyone in the UK I have talked to has tested positive though!

[Guest guest]

See but with you, having been camping, that makes sense. I agree that the amount

showing up seems suspect. For you having the woods experience, symptoms since

then, I would contact the DR on your own that might test. One of the local

universities maybe?

Re: Re: Thyroid/Lyme connection--Jamy

The fact that almost everyone tested in the UK seems to be positive makes me

suspicious of the testing process, after all the UK is not teeming with either

ticks or mosquitoes, although we do have them - just not in sufficient

quantities for a large section of the population to be infected.

Having said that, after doing a lot of reading about Lyme's, I am sure that

this is what I have. Although I live in the UK now, for 20 years I lived in

South Africa and my symptoms started straight after a camping trip in the

mountains there.

I did not have the classic 'bullseye' rash but I did have a profuse rash all

over the top half of my body. Shortly after that I had hives all down my legs,

vertigo, itchy eyes (which was said to be an allergy by my doc). Shortly after

that I had aching all over, tested high for prolactin, lost a lot of weight and

finally diagnosed with thyroiditis.

Over the last couple of years, when I have been prescribed antibiotics for

chest infections I have felt so much better. I am thinking now that the

antibiotics may have been helping to fight the Lyme's but, of course, given for

a chest infection the course of antibiotics was too short to completely fight

the Lyme's - but could have just been long enough to show a slight improvement?

Last year I asked my doc if he would test me for Lyme's, instead her referred

me to a specialist physician who told me the classis - it's all in your head.

Lynda (in the UK)

----- Original Message -----

From: JAMY

It seems everyone in the UK I have talked to has tested positive though!

[Guest guest]

See but with you, having been camping, that makes sense. I agree that the amount

showing up seems suspect. For you having the woods experience, symptoms since

then, I would contact the DR on your own that might test. One of the local

universities maybe?

Re: Re: Thyroid/Lyme connection--Jamy

The fact that almost everyone tested in the UK seems to be positive makes me

suspicious of the testing process, after all the UK is not teeming with either

ticks or mosquitoes, although we do have them - just not in sufficient

quantities for a large section of the population to be infected.

Having said that, after doing a lot of reading about Lyme's, I am sure that

this is what I have. Although I live in the UK now, for 20 years I lived in

South Africa and my symptoms started straight after a camping trip in the

mountains there.

I did not have the classic 'bullseye' rash but I did have a profuse rash all

over the top half of my body. Shortly after that I had hives all down my legs,

vertigo, itchy eyes (which was said to be an allergy by my doc). Shortly after

that I had aching all over, tested high for prolactin, lost a lot of weight and

finally diagnosed with thyroiditis.

Over the last couple of years, when I have been prescribed antibiotics for

chest infections I have felt so much better. I am thinking now that the

antibiotics may have been helping to fight the Lyme's but, of course, given for

a chest infection the course of antibiotics was too short to completely fight

the Lyme's - but could have just been long enough to show a slight improvement?

Last year I asked my doc if he would test me for Lyme's, instead her referred

me to a specialist physician who told me the classis - it's all in your head.

Lynda (in the UK)

----- Original Message -----

From: JAMY

It seems everyone in the UK I have talked to has tested positive though!

[Guest guest]

See but with you, having been camping, that makes sense. I agree that the amount

showing up seems suspect. For you having the woods experience, symptoms since

then, I would contact the DR on your own that might test. One of the local

universities maybe?

Re: Re: Thyroid/Lyme connection--Jamy

The fact that almost everyone tested in the UK seems to be positive makes me

suspicious of the testing process, after all the UK is not teeming with either

ticks or mosquitoes, although we do have them - just not in sufficient

quantities for a large section of the population to be infected.

Having said that, after doing a lot of reading about Lyme's, I am sure that

this is what I have. Although I live in the UK now, for 20 years I lived in

South Africa and my symptoms started straight after a camping trip in the

mountains there.

I did not have the classic 'bullseye' rash but I did have a profuse rash all

over the top half of my body. Shortly after that I had hives all down my legs,

vertigo, itchy eyes (which was said to be an allergy by my doc). Shortly after

that I had aching all over, tested high for prolactin, lost a lot of weight and

finally diagnosed with thyroiditis.

Over the last couple of years, when I have been prescribed antibiotics for

chest infections I have felt so much better. I am thinking now that the

antibiotics may have been helping to fight the Lyme's but, of course, given for

a chest infection the course of antibiotics was too short to completely fight

the Lyme's - but could have just been long enough to show a slight improvement?

Last year I asked my doc if he would test me for Lyme's, instead her referred

me to a specialist physician who told me the classis - it's all in your head.

Lynda (in the UK)

----- Original Message -----

From: JAMY

It seems everyone in the UK I have talked to has tested positive though!

[Guest guest]

YEP,THOSE BLUE BUTT'S ON BABOON'S,,,,,ALL THE BLOOD HAS BEEN SUCKED

OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Re: Thyroid/Lyme connection--Jamy

Ya ever seen a Monkey with Skitter bites?

----- Original Message -----

[Guest guest]

I have found that taking a supplemental dose of the B vitamins (at least 50mg to

75mg of each) keeps the mosquitos from biting...It makes you not taste good to

them. I've only had 1 bite in the past 3 years...it's made a believer out of me!

Dusty

Re: Thyroid/Lyme connection--Jamy

> Ticks are not the only way this is spread....mosquitoes spread the

> disease as well to humans according to my doctor......sue in TN

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Sheesh! Can't catch a break, can you?? My son was eaten alive by

mosquitos 2 summers ago while crows and wildlife seemed to be dying

from West Nile...he had a bit of a fever and was ill for a couple of

days, as did some of his friends who had been with him that

afternnon/evening at the forest preserve. We figured it was a mild

case of West Nile and now he may have the antibodies. This year,

he's hypothyroid...I guess he should have himself tested next time he

goes for bloodwork.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

I have found that taking a supplemental dose of the B vitamins (at least 50mg to

75mg of each) keeps the mosquitos from biting...It makes you not taste good to

them. I've only had 1 bite in the past 3 years...it's made a believer out of me!

Dusty

Re: Thyroid/Lyme connection--Jamy

> Ticks are not the only way this is spread....mosquitoes spread the

> disease as well to humans according to my doctor......sue in TN

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Sheesh! Can't catch a break, can you?? My son was eaten alive by

mosquitos 2 summers ago while crows and wildlife seemed to be dying

from West Nile...he had a bit of a fever and was ill for a couple of

days, as did some of his friends who had been with him that

afternnon/evening at the forest preserve. We figured it was a mild

case of West Nile and now he may have the antibodies. This year,

he's hypothyroid...I guess he should have himself tested next time he

goes for bloodwork.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

It's B-1 that keeps the skeeters away.... I can't remember now if its mcg

or mg... but it's 200 about a half hour before the mosquitos hit.... then

100 every couple of hours while you're out in them...

It works SO well for me that I was not allowed to take the stuff when I

worked for Mosquito Control! Part of our job was doing bite counts... I

wasn't getting bit so my counts were off.... hehehehehehee

The first time I tested it out was at a family reunion up at the lake....

Everyone was crammed into a screen tent, the skeeters were so bad.... I

was popping my b-1 and laying in the grass next to the fire having a

grand ole time! I wasn't getting a single bite and everyone in the tent

was still getting bit!

I'll warn you ... you pee a very bright yellow when you're on it!

I also had a lot of success washing my clothes with bleach.... do the

regular wash and the last few seconds before it drained and spun out I'd

add a splash of bleach... then let it continue through the rinse, etc...

that mild chlorine scent kept away ticks and gnats....

I used to live for camping and was so into it that the tent was kept in

my trunk and I had the canoe on top of the car (or later, the truck) so

that I could go anytime I wanted. I often stopped off after work to go

canoeing.... back in the days when I could still do stuff like that....

sigh.... I'm aiming to do some of those again one day, now that I'm on

Natural thyroid and have learned how to take care of my own health!

Topper ()

On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 01:30:38 -0600 " nnichols "

writes:

> I have found that taking a supplemental dose of the B vitamins (at

> least 50mg to 75mg of each) keeps the mosquitos from biting...It

> makes you not taste good to them. I've only had 1 bite in the past 3

> years...it's made a believer out of me!

> Dusty