Guest guest Posted May 30, 2001 Report Share Posted May 30, 2001 Dear All: I have been asking and asking each doctor I consult who suggests uterus removal to solve the problem of my fibroid if there really is no good reason to keep the uterus. They tell me there is not. The ovaries yes, they are good, needed for hormonal reasons and bone loss reasons. And the cervix is good and helpful for sexual reasons, but the uterus is no longer needed after one is done procreating. I do not want more children. So they all told me I am hanging on to a muscle that I no longer need that is causing me problems. They tell me it is emotional. Well maybe not!!!!! A doctor I communicated with on line just informed me that I should know that sometimes after removal of JUST the uterus, as they are suggesting, the ovaries can " Shut Down. " If true that would change which surgery I choose. Do any of you know that to be true? Where can I look it up? I have been trying to find out what adverse affects there could be, other than possible depression, from the removal of JUST the uterus. I am not find the information easily. Thank you Audrey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2001 Report Share Posted May 30, 2001 Dear All: I have been asking and asking each doctor I consult who suggests uterus removal to solve the problem of my fibroid if there really is no good reason to keep the uterus. They tell me there is not. The ovaries yes, they are good, needed for hormonal reasons and bone loss reasons. And the cervix is good and helpful for sexual reasons, but the uterus is no longer needed after one is done procreating. I do not want more children. So they all told me I am hanging on to a muscle that I no longer need that is causing me problems. They tell me it is emotional. Well maybe not!!!!! A doctor I communicated with on line just informed me that I should know that sometimes after removal of JUST the uterus, as they are suggesting, the ovaries can " Shut Down. " If true that would change which surgery I choose. Do any of you know that to be true? Where can I look it up? I have been trying to find out what adverse affects there could be, other than possible depression, from the removal of JUST the uterus. I am not find the information easily. Thank you Audrey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2001 Report Share Posted May 30, 2001 Dear All: I have been asking and asking each doctor I consult who suggests uterus removal to solve the problem of my fibroid if there really is no good reason to keep the uterus. They tell me there is not. The ovaries yes, they are good, needed for hormonal reasons and bone loss reasons. And the cervix is good and helpful for sexual reasons, but the uterus is no longer needed after one is done procreating. I do not want more children. So they all told me I am hanging on to a muscle that I no longer need that is causing me problems. They tell me it is emotional. Well maybe not!!!!! A doctor I communicated with on line just informed me that I should know that sometimes after removal of JUST the uterus, as they are suggesting, the ovaries can " Shut Down. " If true that would change which surgery I choose. Do any of you know that to be true? Where can I look it up? I have been trying to find out what adverse affects there could be, other than possible depression, from the removal of JUST the uterus. I am not find the information easily. Thank you Audrey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2001 Report Share Posted May 30, 2001 Audrey, I believe your suspicions that your Dr.'s are truly invalidating your uterine function beyond childbearing and that they are incorrect, is correct. As far as those Doctors, Audrey...If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....QUACK QUACK and more QUACKS..... Marsha In a message dated 5/30/01 2:48:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, matson9@... writes: > Dear All: > I have been asking and asking each doctor I consult who suggests uterus > removal to solve the problem of my fibroid if there really is no good > reason > to keep the uterus. They tell me there is not. The ovaries yes, they are > good, needed for hormonal reasons and bone loss reasons. And the cervix is > good and helpful for sexual reasons, but the uterus is no longer needed > after > one is done procreating. > I do not want more children. So they all told me I am hanging on to a > muscle that I no longer need that is causing me problems. They tell me it > is > emotional. > > Well maybe not!!!!! > A doctor I communicated with on line just informed me that I should > know > that sometimes after removal of JUST the uterus, as they are suggesting, > the > ovaries can " Shut Down. " If true that would change which surgery I choose. > Do any of you know that to be true? Where can I look it up? I have been > trying to find out what adverse affects there could be, other than possible > depression, from the removal of JUST the uterus. I am not find the > information easily. > Thank you Audrey > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2001 Report Share Posted May 30, 2001 Audrey, I believe your suspicions that your Dr.'s are truly invalidating your uterine function beyond childbearing and that they are incorrect, is correct. As far as those Doctors, Audrey...If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....QUACK QUACK and more QUACKS..... Marsha In a message dated 5/30/01 2:48:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, matson9@... writes: > Dear All: > I have been asking and asking each doctor I consult who suggests uterus > removal to solve the problem of my fibroid if there really is no good > reason > to keep the uterus. They tell me there is not. The ovaries yes, they are > good, needed for hormonal reasons and bone loss reasons. And the cervix is > good and helpful for sexual reasons, but the uterus is no longer needed > after > one is done procreating. > I do not want more children. So they all told me I am hanging on to a > muscle that I no longer need that is causing me problems. They tell me it > is > emotional. > > Well maybe not!!!!! > A doctor I communicated with on line just informed me that I should > know > that sometimes after removal of JUST the uterus, as they are suggesting, > the > ovaries can " Shut Down. " If true that would change which surgery I choose. > Do any of you know that to be true? Where can I look it up? I have been > trying to find out what adverse affects there could be, other than possible > depression, from the removal of JUST the uterus. I am not find the > information easily. > Thank you Audrey > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2001 Report Share Posted May 30, 2001 Audrey, I believe your suspicions that your Dr.'s are truly invalidating your uterine function beyond childbearing and that they are incorrect, is correct. As far as those Doctors, Audrey...If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....QUACK QUACK and more QUACKS..... Marsha In a message dated 5/30/01 2:48:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, matson9@... writes: > Dear All: > I have been asking and asking each doctor I consult who suggests uterus > removal to solve the problem of my fibroid if there really is no good > reason > to keep the uterus. They tell me there is not. The ovaries yes, they are > good, needed for hormonal reasons and bone loss reasons. And the cervix is > good and helpful for sexual reasons, but the uterus is no longer needed > after > one is done procreating. > I do not want more children. So they all told me I am hanging on to a > muscle that I no longer need that is causing me problems. They tell me it > is > emotional. > > Well maybe not!!!!! > A doctor I communicated with on line just informed me that I should > know > that sometimes after removal of JUST the uterus, as they are suggesting, > the > ovaries can " Shut Down. " If true that would change which surgery I choose. > Do any of you know that to be true? Where can I look it up? I have been > trying to find out what adverse affects there could be, other than possible > depression, from the removal of JUST the uterus. I am not find the > information easily. > Thank you Audrey > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2001 Report Share Posted May 30, 2001 matson9@... wrote: > A doctor I communicated with on line just informed me that I > should know > that sometimes after removal of JUST the uterus, as they are > suggesting, the > ovaries can " Shut Down. " If true that would change which surgery I > choose. > Do any of you know that to be true? Where can I look it up? You know, I think with a little bit of help from Plourde, Cobb, Curtin and a few dozen other women who've sent me loads and loads of medical literature, old and new, published in medical journals or historical medical books used to train doctors in medical school or even historical retrospectives, that I could probably spend hours recreating citations for what doctors have known about ovarian failure post-hyst since at least the 1930s. It completely amazes me, with all that I know about the medical literature and the history of medical training of gyns in this nation today, that there are actually gyns out there who tell women the uterus has no function beyond childbearing. I know these doctors exist -- I've encountered more than my fair share of them -- but who do they think they're kidding? Only the woman who buys that line and consents to the hyst..... a few citations for you.... Arch Gynecol Obstet 1989;244(3):169-73 Hormone levels in women after hysterectomy. Kaiser R, Kusche M, Wurz H. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uid\ s=2500073 & dopt=Abstract Fertil Steril 1987 Jan;47(1):94-100 The effect of hysterectomy on the age at ovarian failure: identification of a subgroup of women with premature loss of ovarian function and literature review. Siddle N, Sarrel P, Whitehead M. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uid\ s=3539646 & dopt=Abstract J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1996 Mar;81(3):1104-7 Ovarian angiotensin-converting enzyme activity in humans: relationship to estradiol, age, and uterine pathology. Erman A, Chen-Gal B, van Dijk DJ, Sulkes J, Kaplan B, Boner G, Neri A. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uid\ s=8772583 & dopt=Abstract Am J Obstet Gynecol 1977 Feb 15;127(4):349-52 The acute effect of hysterectomy on ovarian blood flow. Janson PO, Jansson I. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uid\ s=319669 & dopt=Abstract Additional books that will lead you to even more citations: Hysterectomy & Ovary Removal: What all women need to know. (formerly entitled " The Ultimate Rape " ) Plourde Sex, Lies, & the Truth About Uterine Fibroids Carla Dionne Just about any ob/gyn medical book....such as: Telinde's Operative Gynecology W. Te Linde (Editor), D. (Editor) http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0397513992/o/qid=991261409/sr=8-1/ref=aps\ _sr_b_1_1/107-9493277-5559703 Current Obstetric & Gynecologic Diagnosis & Treatment Alan H. Decherney (Editor), L., MD Pernoll (Editor) http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0838514472/qid=991261462/sr=1-2/ref=sc_b_\ 2/107-9493277-5559703 carla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2001 Report Share Posted May 30, 2001 matson9@... wrote: > A doctor I communicated with on line just informed me that I > should know > that sometimes after removal of JUST the uterus, as they are > suggesting, the > ovaries can " Shut Down. " If true that would change which surgery I > choose. > Do any of you know that to be true? Where can I look it up? You know, I think with a little bit of help from Plourde, Cobb, Curtin and a few dozen other women who've sent me loads and loads of medical literature, old and new, published in medical journals or historical medical books used to train doctors in medical school or even historical retrospectives, that I could probably spend hours recreating citations for what doctors have known about ovarian failure post-hyst since at least the 1930s. It completely amazes me, with all that I know about the medical literature and the history of medical training of gyns in this nation today, that there are actually gyns out there who tell women the uterus has no function beyond childbearing. I know these doctors exist -- I've encountered more than my fair share of them -- but who do they think they're kidding? Only the woman who buys that line and consents to the hyst..... a few citations for you.... Arch Gynecol Obstet 1989;244(3):169-73 Hormone levels in women after hysterectomy. Kaiser R, Kusche M, Wurz H. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uid\ s=2500073 & dopt=Abstract Fertil Steril 1987 Jan;47(1):94-100 The effect of hysterectomy on the age at ovarian failure: identification of a subgroup of women with premature loss of ovarian function and literature review. Siddle N, Sarrel P, Whitehead M. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uid\ s=3539646 & dopt=Abstract J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1996 Mar;81(3):1104-7 Ovarian angiotensin-converting enzyme activity in humans: relationship to estradiol, age, and uterine pathology. Erman A, Chen-Gal B, van Dijk DJ, Sulkes J, Kaplan B, Boner G, Neri A. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uid\ s=8772583 & dopt=Abstract Am J Obstet Gynecol 1977 Feb 15;127(4):349-52 The acute effect of hysterectomy on ovarian blood flow. Janson PO, Jansson I. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uid\ s=319669 & dopt=Abstract Additional books that will lead you to even more citations: Hysterectomy & Ovary Removal: What all women need to know. (formerly entitled " The Ultimate Rape " ) Plourde Sex, Lies, & the Truth About Uterine Fibroids Carla Dionne Just about any ob/gyn medical book....such as: Telinde's Operative Gynecology W. Te Linde (Editor), D. (Editor) http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0397513992/o/qid=991261409/sr=8-1/ref=aps\ _sr_b_1_1/107-9493277-5559703 Current Obstetric & Gynecologic Diagnosis & Treatment Alan H. Decherney (Editor), L., MD Pernoll (Editor) http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0838514472/qid=991261462/sr=1-2/ref=sc_b_\ 2/107-9493277-5559703 carla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2001 Report Share Posted May 30, 2001 matson9@... wrote: > A doctor I communicated with on line just informed me that I > should know > that sometimes after removal of JUST the uterus, as they are > suggesting, the > ovaries can " Shut Down. " If true that would change which surgery I > choose. > Do any of you know that to be true? Where can I look it up? You know, I think with a little bit of help from Plourde, Cobb, Curtin and a few dozen other women who've sent me loads and loads of medical literature, old and new, published in medical journals or historical medical books used to train doctors in medical school or even historical retrospectives, that I could probably spend hours recreating citations for what doctors have known about ovarian failure post-hyst since at least the 1930s. It completely amazes me, with all that I know about the medical literature and the history of medical training of gyns in this nation today, that there are actually gyns out there who tell women the uterus has no function beyond childbearing. I know these doctors exist -- I've encountered more than my fair share of them -- but who do they think they're kidding? Only the woman who buys that line and consents to the hyst..... a few citations for you.... Arch Gynecol Obstet 1989;244(3):169-73 Hormone levels in women after hysterectomy. Kaiser R, Kusche M, Wurz H. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uid\ s=2500073 & dopt=Abstract Fertil Steril 1987 Jan;47(1):94-100 The effect of hysterectomy on the age at ovarian failure: identification of a subgroup of women with premature loss of ovarian function and literature review. Siddle N, Sarrel P, Whitehead M. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uid\ s=3539646 & dopt=Abstract J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1996 Mar;81(3):1104-7 Ovarian angiotensin-converting enzyme activity in humans: relationship to estradiol, age, and uterine pathology. Erman A, Chen-Gal B, van Dijk DJ, Sulkes J, Kaplan B, Boner G, Neri A. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uid\ s=8772583 & dopt=Abstract Am J Obstet Gynecol 1977 Feb 15;127(4):349-52 The acute effect of hysterectomy on ovarian blood flow. Janson PO, Jansson I. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uid\ s=319669 & dopt=Abstract Additional books that will lead you to even more citations: Hysterectomy & Ovary Removal: What all women need to know. (formerly entitled " The Ultimate Rape " ) Plourde Sex, Lies, & the Truth About Uterine Fibroids Carla Dionne Just about any ob/gyn medical book....such as: Telinde's Operative Gynecology W. Te Linde (Editor), D. (Editor) http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0397513992/o/qid=991261409/sr=8-1/ref=aps\ _sr_b_1_1/107-9493277-5559703 Current Obstetric & Gynecologic Diagnosis & Treatment Alan H. Decherney (Editor), L., MD Pernoll (Editor) http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0838514472/qid=991261462/sr=1-2/ref=sc_b_\ 2/107-9493277-5559703 carla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2001 Report Share Posted May 30, 2001 Great posting! Thanks. Re: Re:hyster JUST uterus > matson9@... wrote: > > > A doctor I communicated with on line just informed me that I > > should know > > that sometimes after removal of JUST the uterus, as they are > > suggesting, the > > ovaries can " Shut Down. " If true that would change which surgery I > > choose. > > Do any of you know that to be true? Where can I look it up? > > You know, I think with a little bit of help from Plourde, > Cobb, Curtin and a few dozen other women who've sent me > loads and loads of medical literature, old and new, published in medical > journals or historical medical books used to train doctors in medical > school or even historical retrospectives, that I could probably spend > hours recreating citations for what doctors have known about ovarian > failure post-hyst since at least the 1930s. It completely amazes me, > with all that I know about the medical literature and the history of > medical training of gyns in this nation today, that there are actually > gyns out there who tell women the uterus has no function beyond > childbearing. I know these doctors exist -- I've encountered more than > my fair share of them -- but who do they think they're kidding? Only > the woman who buys that line and consents to the hyst..... > > a few citations for you.... > > Arch Gynecol Obstet 1989;244(3):169-73 > Hormone levels in women after hysterectomy. > Kaiser R, Kusche M, Wurz H. > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list _uids=2500073 & dopt=Abstract > > Fertil Steril 1987 Jan;47(1):94-100 > The effect of hysterectomy on the age at ovarian failure: identification > of a subgroup of women with premature loss of ovarian function and > literature review. > Siddle N, Sarrel P, Whitehead M. > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list _uids=3539646 & dopt=Abstract > > J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1996 Mar;81(3):1104-7 > Ovarian angiotensin-converting enzyme activity in humans: relationship > to estradiol, age, and uterine pathology. > Erman A, Chen-Gal B, van Dijk DJ, Sulkes J, Kaplan B, Boner G, Neri A. > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list _uids=8772583 & dopt=Abstract > > Am J Obstet Gynecol 1977 Feb 15;127(4):349-52 > The acute effect of hysterectomy on ovarian blood flow. > Janson PO, Jansson I. > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list _uids=319669 & dopt=Abstract > > Additional books that will lead you to even more citations: > > Hysterectomy & Ovary Removal: What all women need to know. (formerly > entitled " The Ultimate Rape " ) > Plourde > > Sex, Lies, & the Truth About Uterine Fibroids > Carla Dionne > > Just about any ob/gyn medical book....such as: > > Telinde's Operative Gynecology > W. Te Linde (Editor), D. (Editor) > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0397513992/o/qid=991261409/sr=8-1/ref =aps_sr_b_1_1/107-9493277-5559703 > > Current Obstetric & Gynecologic Diagnosis & Treatment > Alan H. Decherney (Editor), L., MD Pernoll (Editor) > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0838514472/qid=991261462/sr=1-2/ref=s c_b_2/107-9493277-5559703 > > > > carla > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2001 Report Share Posted May 30, 2001 Great posting! Thanks. Re: Re:hyster JUST uterus > matson9@... wrote: > > > A doctor I communicated with on line just informed me that I > > should know > > that sometimes after removal of JUST the uterus, as they are > > suggesting, the > > ovaries can " Shut Down. " If true that would change which surgery I > > choose. > > Do any of you know that to be true? Where can I look it up? > > You know, I think with a little bit of help from Plourde, > Cobb, Curtin and a few dozen other women who've sent me > loads and loads of medical literature, old and new, published in medical > journals or historical medical books used to train doctors in medical > school or even historical retrospectives, that I could probably spend > hours recreating citations for what doctors have known about ovarian > failure post-hyst since at least the 1930s. It completely amazes me, > with all that I know about the medical literature and the history of > medical training of gyns in this nation today, that there are actually > gyns out there who tell women the uterus has no function beyond > childbearing. I know these doctors exist -- I've encountered more than > my fair share of them -- but who do they think they're kidding? Only > the woman who buys that line and consents to the hyst..... > > a few citations for you.... > > Arch Gynecol Obstet 1989;244(3):169-73 > Hormone levels in women after hysterectomy. > Kaiser R, Kusche M, Wurz H. > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list _uids=2500073 & dopt=Abstract > > Fertil Steril 1987 Jan;47(1):94-100 > The effect of hysterectomy on the age at ovarian failure: identification > of a subgroup of women with premature loss of ovarian function and > literature review. > Siddle N, Sarrel P, Whitehead M. > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list _uids=3539646 & dopt=Abstract > > J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1996 Mar;81(3):1104-7 > Ovarian angiotensin-converting enzyme activity in humans: relationship > to estradiol, age, and uterine pathology. > Erman A, Chen-Gal B, van Dijk DJ, Sulkes J, Kaplan B, Boner G, Neri A. > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list _uids=8772583 & dopt=Abstract > > Am J Obstet Gynecol 1977 Feb 15;127(4):349-52 > The acute effect of hysterectomy on ovarian blood flow. > Janson PO, Jansson I. > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list _uids=319669 & dopt=Abstract > > Additional books that will lead you to even more citations: > > Hysterectomy & Ovary Removal: What all women need to know. (formerly > entitled " The Ultimate Rape " ) > Plourde > > Sex, Lies, & the Truth About Uterine Fibroids > Carla Dionne > > Just about any ob/gyn medical book....such as: > > Telinde's Operative Gynecology > W. Te Linde (Editor), D. (Editor) > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0397513992/o/qid=991261409/sr=8-1/ref =aps_sr_b_1_1/107-9493277-5559703 > > Current Obstetric & Gynecologic Diagnosis & Treatment > Alan H. Decherney (Editor), L., MD Pernoll (Editor) > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0838514472/qid=991261462/sr=1-2/ref=s c_b_2/107-9493277-5559703 > > > > carla > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2001 Report Share Posted May 30, 2001 Great posting! Thanks. Re: Re:hyster JUST uterus > matson9@... wrote: > > > A doctor I communicated with on line just informed me that I > > should know > > that sometimes after removal of JUST the uterus, as they are > > suggesting, the > > ovaries can " Shut Down. " If true that would change which surgery I > > choose. > > Do any of you know that to be true? Where can I look it up? > > You know, I think with a little bit of help from Plourde, > Cobb, Curtin and a few dozen other women who've sent me > loads and loads of medical literature, old and new, published in medical > journals or historical medical books used to train doctors in medical > school or even historical retrospectives, that I could probably spend > hours recreating citations for what doctors have known about ovarian > failure post-hyst since at least the 1930s. It completely amazes me, > with all that I know about the medical literature and the history of > medical training of gyns in this nation today, that there are actually > gyns out there who tell women the uterus has no function beyond > childbearing. I know these doctors exist -- I've encountered more than > my fair share of them -- but who do they think they're kidding? Only > the woman who buys that line and consents to the hyst..... > > a few citations for you.... > > Arch Gynecol Obstet 1989;244(3):169-73 > Hormone levels in women after hysterectomy. > Kaiser R, Kusche M, Wurz H. > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list _uids=2500073 & dopt=Abstract > > Fertil Steril 1987 Jan;47(1):94-100 > The effect of hysterectomy on the age at ovarian failure: identification > of a subgroup of women with premature loss of ovarian function and > literature review. > Siddle N, Sarrel P, Whitehead M. > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list _uids=3539646 & dopt=Abstract > > J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1996 Mar;81(3):1104-7 > Ovarian angiotensin-converting enzyme activity in humans: relationship > to estradiol, age, and uterine pathology. > Erman A, Chen-Gal B, van Dijk DJ, Sulkes J, Kaplan B, Boner G, Neri A. > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list _uids=8772583 & dopt=Abstract > > Am J Obstet Gynecol 1977 Feb 15;127(4):349-52 > The acute effect of hysterectomy on ovarian blood flow. > Janson PO, Jansson I. > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list _uids=319669 & dopt=Abstract > > Additional books that will lead you to even more citations: > > Hysterectomy & Ovary Removal: What all women need to know. (formerly > entitled " The Ultimate Rape " ) > Plourde > > Sex, Lies, & the Truth About Uterine Fibroids > Carla Dionne > > Just about any ob/gyn medical book....such as: > > Telinde's Operative Gynecology > W. Te Linde (Editor), D. (Editor) > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0397513992/o/qid=991261409/sr=8-1/ref =aps_sr_b_1_1/107-9493277-5559703 > > Current Obstetric & Gynecologic Diagnosis & Treatment > Alan H. Decherney (Editor), L., MD Pernoll (Editor) > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0838514472/qid=991261462/sr=1-2/ref=s c_b_2/107-9493277-5559703 > > > > carla > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 Dear Carla, I can't thank you enough. Audrey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 Audrey wrote>>> " ... A doctor I communicated with on line just informed me that I should know that sometimes after removal of JUST the uterus, as they are suggesting, the ovaries can 'Shut Down.' " Yes, I have read that from a great many sources. If my memory is correct it happens about 10% of the time?? Also even when they don't fail immediately, it's thought that the ovaries tend to degenerate quicker than they would otherwise .... but at least that's a gradual process, so if you're over 40 when you have hysterectomy you probably aren't going to stop ovulating all that much earlier than you would have otherwise. [i'll have to read some of the articles cited by Carla and then I might want to re-write the above paragraph] Unfortunately, UAE can also have an adverse affect on the ovaries, particularly in women over 45. See Amato P, AC. " Transient ovarian failure: a complication of uterine artery embolization " Fertil Steril 2001 Feb;75(2):438-9. (abstract on line at Entrez-PubMed) and Spies JB, Roth AR, Gonsalves SM, -Skrzyniarz KM. " Ovarian function after uterine artery embolization for leiomyomata: assessment with use of serum follicle stimulating hormone assay " . J Vasc Interv Radiol 2001 Apr;12(4):437-42. available on-line at www.jvir.org Now I have some questions, does anyone on this list know, has research been done on these issues: 1) I have heard of women getting who have had hysterectomies later getting infected ovaries. Does this happen much more after hysterectomy than it does in women with intact wombs? Is it common? 2) Is there any difference in the incidence of cysts and tumours of the ovaries in women with and without wombs? (I suppose the latter wouldn't get the 'chocolate cysts' associated with endometriosis) 3) I saw an illustration of a subtotal (supracervical) hysterectomy which showed the ovaries and fallopian tubes being surgically attached to the cervix. How does ovarian health after this procedure compare with ovarian health after total hysterectomy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 Audrey wrote>>> " ... A doctor I communicated with on line just informed me that I should know that sometimes after removal of JUST the uterus, as they are suggesting, the ovaries can 'Shut Down.' " Yes, I have read that from a great many sources. If my memory is correct it happens about 10% of the time?? Also even when they don't fail immediately, it's thought that the ovaries tend to degenerate quicker than they would otherwise .... but at least that's a gradual process, so if you're over 40 when you have hysterectomy you probably aren't going to stop ovulating all that much earlier than you would have otherwise. [i'll have to read some of the articles cited by Carla and then I might want to re-write the above paragraph] Unfortunately, UAE can also have an adverse affect on the ovaries, particularly in women over 45. See Amato P, AC. " Transient ovarian failure: a complication of uterine artery embolization " Fertil Steril 2001 Feb;75(2):438-9. (abstract on line at Entrez-PubMed) and Spies JB, Roth AR, Gonsalves SM, -Skrzyniarz KM. " Ovarian function after uterine artery embolization for leiomyomata: assessment with use of serum follicle stimulating hormone assay " . J Vasc Interv Radiol 2001 Apr;12(4):437-42. available on-line at www.jvir.org Now I have some questions, does anyone on this list know, has research been done on these issues: 1) I have heard of women getting who have had hysterectomies later getting infected ovaries. Does this happen much more after hysterectomy than it does in women with intact wombs? Is it common? 2) Is there any difference in the incidence of cysts and tumours of the ovaries in women with and without wombs? (I suppose the latter wouldn't get the 'chocolate cysts' associated with endometriosis) 3) I saw an illustration of a subtotal (supracervical) hysterectomy which showed the ovaries and fallopian tubes being surgically attached to the cervix. How does ovarian health after this procedure compare with ovarian health after total hysterectomy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 Audrey wrote>>> " ... A doctor I communicated with on line just informed me that I should know that sometimes after removal of JUST the uterus, as they are suggesting, the ovaries can 'Shut Down.' " Yes, I have read that from a great many sources. If my memory is correct it happens about 10% of the time?? Also even when they don't fail immediately, it's thought that the ovaries tend to degenerate quicker than they would otherwise .... but at least that's a gradual process, so if you're over 40 when you have hysterectomy you probably aren't going to stop ovulating all that much earlier than you would have otherwise. [i'll have to read some of the articles cited by Carla and then I might want to re-write the above paragraph] Unfortunately, UAE can also have an adverse affect on the ovaries, particularly in women over 45. See Amato P, AC. " Transient ovarian failure: a complication of uterine artery embolization " Fertil Steril 2001 Feb;75(2):438-9. (abstract on line at Entrez-PubMed) and Spies JB, Roth AR, Gonsalves SM, -Skrzyniarz KM. " Ovarian function after uterine artery embolization for leiomyomata: assessment with use of serum follicle stimulating hormone assay " . J Vasc Interv Radiol 2001 Apr;12(4):437-42. available on-line at www.jvir.org Now I have some questions, does anyone on this list know, has research been done on these issues: 1) I have heard of women getting who have had hysterectomies later getting infected ovaries. Does this happen much more after hysterectomy than it does in women with intact wombs? Is it common? 2) Is there any difference in the incidence of cysts and tumours of the ovaries in women with and without wombs? (I suppose the latter wouldn't get the 'chocolate cysts' associated with endometriosis) 3) I saw an illustration of a subtotal (supracervical) hysterectomy which showed the ovaries and fallopian tubes being surgically attached to the cervix. How does ovarian health after this procedure compare with ovarian health after total hysterectomy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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