How long for basal temperature to rise?

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I started with Armour four months ago and worked my way up to 2

grains in the

morning. Additionally I take hydrocortisone 10mg in the morning 5 mg

at noon and

5mg in the afternoon.

With this dosage I feel somewhat better than before with more energy.

Also my

temperature througout the day has gone up a bit.

But what puzzles me is that my morning basal temperature has not

changed a bit. It

stays low at 36.1°C / 96.9F. How long will it usually take for the

basal temperature to

rise? My TSH before starting Armour has been 2.8 .

[Guest guest]

Hi , From what I am reading, you are not on a high enough dose of Armour.

The correct way to tell if you are on enough Armour is to have a basal reading

of 98.0. This temp means that you are at the precise amount of Armour. You

have a ways to go.

Your TSH should be on the lowest end to be at your thyroid peak. Mine is 0.1

and thats where most peoples TSH should be. THe question is your T3 and FT3

levels where are they at?

When was your last blood draw/labs?

Are you still having symptoms? IF you are...you aren't on enough of the Armour.

Your doc worked diligently with you to get you to 2 grains yet an increase is

inevitable.

Let me know how you do.

Patti

How long for basal temperature to rise?

Hi,

I started with Armour four months ago and worked my way up to 2

grains in the

morning. Additionally I take hydrocortisone 10mg in the morning 5 mg

at noon and

5mg in the afternoon.

With this dosage I feel somewhat better than before with more energy.

Also my

temperature througout the day has gone up a bit.

But what puzzles me is that my morning basal temperature has not

changed a bit. It

stays low at 36.1°C / 96.9F. How long will it usually take for the

basal temperature to

rise? My TSH before starting Armour has been 2.8 .

[Guest guest]

Hi . As already wisely stated, you may not be on enough Armour

yet, so explore adding a bit more to your current amount. I, for

example, got up to 2 grains and found myself with fabulous energy.

So I thought I had reached my optimal dose. But it dawned on me that

I also had other less bothersome issues that were hypo related. So I

started to increase, and am now up to 2 3/4 grain successfully, and

ridding myself of the other issues...

Also, you need to consider dividing your dose, taking half in the

morning, and half in the early afternoon and see how that does for

you. Your own thyroid would be distributing that T3 throughout the

day, not all in the morning. So the objective is to better replicate

that.

Also, are you doing your Armour sublingually? It's a wiser choice

than swallowing it.

Janie

[Guest guest]

The last thyroid blood test had been done before I started with the Armour.

I started with a tiny dose of just 1/4 grain because in the beginning I was

reacting

very strong to it with palpitations and stress symptoms. Therefore my doc put me

on

additional hydrocortisone which let these symptoms disappear completeley.

Every 10-14 days I increased the dosage until I reached 2 grains three weeks

ago.

Until now some of my symptoms resolved, I feel warmer and my skin problems

disappeared. But sadly I still feel tired alot, my thinking still is somewhat

slow, my

digestion is very poor, I have a hoarse voice, I have cold hand and feet and my

basal

temperature is low.

So perhaps I will try to further increase my dosage of Armour. To do that,

would you

stay on that two grains in the morning and add an additional dose in the

afternoon as

some suggest? Does taking the armour sublingually increase the absorbed amount

of

hormones?

Lots of questions... Thank you for your help!

> Hi , From what I am reading, you are not on a high enough dose of

Armour.

The correct way to tell if you are on enough Armour is to have a basal reading

of 98.0.

This temp means that you are at the precise amount of Armour. You have a ways

to

go.

> Your TSH should be on the lowest end to be at your thyroid peak. Mine is 0.1

and

thats where most peoples TSH should be. THe question is your T3 and FT3 levels

where are they at?

> When was your last blood draw/labs?

> Are you still having symptoms? IF you are...you aren't on enough of the

Armour.

Your doc worked diligently with you to get you to 2 grains yet an increase is

inevitable.

> Let me know how you do.

> Patti

[Guest guest]

The last thyroid blood test had been done before I started with the Armour.

I started with a tiny dose of just 1/4 grain because in the beginning I was

reacting

very strong to it with palpitations and stress symptoms. Therefore my doc put me

on

additional hydrocortisone which let these symptoms disappear completeley.

Every 10-14 days I increased the dosage until I reached 2 grains three weeks

ago.

Until now some of my symptoms resolved, I feel warmer and my skin problems

disappeared. But sadly I still feel tired alot, my thinking still is somewhat

slow, my

digestion is very poor, I have a hoarse voice, I have cold hand and feet and my

basal

temperature is low.

So perhaps I will try to further increase my dosage of Armour. To do that,

would you

stay on that two grains in the morning and add an additional dose in the

afternoon as

some suggest? Does taking the armour sublingually increase the absorbed amount

of

hormones?

Lots of questions... Thank you for your help!

> Hi , From what I am reading, you are not on a high enough dose of

Armour.

The correct way to tell if you are on enough Armour is to have a basal reading

of 98.0.

This temp means that you are at the precise amount of Armour. You have a ways

to

go.

> Your TSH should be on the lowest end to be at your thyroid peak. Mine is 0.1

and

thats where most peoples TSH should be. THe question is your T3 and FT3 levels

where are they at?

> When was your last blood draw/labs?

> Are you still having symptoms? IF you are...you aren't on enough of the

Armour.

Your doc worked diligently with you to get you to 2 grains yet an increase is

inevitable.

> Let me know how you do.

> Patti

[Guest guest]

> The last thyroid blood test had been done before I started with the

Armour.

> I started with a tiny dose of just 1/4 grain because in the

beginning I was reacting

> very strong to it with palpitations and stress symptoms. Therefore

my doc put me on

> additional hydrocortisone which let these symptoms disappear

completeley.

> Every 10-14 days I increased the dosage until I reached 2 grains

three weeks ago.

>

> Until now some of my symptoms resolved, I feel warmer and my skin

problems

> disappeared. But sadly I still feel tired alot, my thinking still

is somewhat slow, my

> digestion is very poor, I have a hoarse voice, I have cold hand and

feet and my basal

> temperature is low.

>

> So perhaps I will try to further increase my dosage of Armour. To

do that, would you

> stay on that two grains in the morning and add an additional dose

in the afternoon as

> some suggest? Does taking the armour sublingually increase the

absorbed amount of

> hormones?

>

> Lots of questions... Thank you for your help!

>

>

My doctors told me that hypothyroid people tend to have very slowed

digestion due to low stomach acid (although many actually believe it

is a high acid problems by their symptoms)...they told me to use

Betaine HCL - this is hydrochloric acid with pepsin - use it 1-2

tablets before each meal...it will make a remarkable difference in

your digestion...I actually only take 1 or 2 before my largest meal

of the day..one of my sons uses it as well. Yes - taking the Armour

subligually does help you to absorb the hormones more effectively and

make them more usable...this way, they don't have to go thru the

entrie digestive tract to be absorbed into your bloodstream, losing

much of it. The idea of taking an additional one in the afternoon is

the way many people do it and find they have a more steady amount of

thryoid hormone in their system this way. But I tired it on several

occasions, and didn't find it made a difference for me. So, once

again it is an individual thing...most recently I began to try taking

another grain at 4 PM and found I forget to take it since I'm so used

to my dose in the AM and forgetting about it until the next AM...so

there are many factors you need to consider for yourself. Lots of

luck!

[Guest guest]

It sounds convincing that stomach acid is low when being hypo. The funny thing

is,

that I didn't have any acid reflux symptoms before I took Armour. Now with the

Armour I often have a slight heartburn, a hoarse voice and a congested nose I

did not

have before. I believe the voice and nose get affected by acid reflux, too.

I have the feeling that taking the thyroid hormones makes me produce more

stomach

acid but that acid does not want to stay in my stomach.

A month ago I tried Glutamic-HCl tablets with pepsin and some digestive enzymes

to

help my digestion. It worked for improving my digestion, but the heartburn, the

hoarseness and the congested nose got worse, so that I canceld the trial.

So, now I am in doubt whether the appearing reflux symptoms tell me, that I am

already on too much Armour. Do you have any experience how reflux reacts on

thyroid medication? Have you observed, how your voice gets affected by Armour?

Regards

> My doctors told me that hypothyroid people tend to have very slowed

> digestion due to low stomach acid (although many actually believe it

> is a high acid problems by their symptoms)...they told me to use

> Betaine HCL - this is hydrochloric acid with pepsin - use it 1-2

> tablets before each meal...it will make a remarkable difference in

> your digestion...I actually only take 1 or 2 before my largest meal

> of the day..one of my sons uses it as well. Yes - taking the Armour

> subligually does help you to absorb the hormones more effectively and

> make them more usable...this way, they don't have to go thru the

> entrie digestive tract to be absorbed into your bloodstream, losing

> much of it. The idea of taking an additional one in the afternoon is

> the way many people do it and find they have a more steady amount of

> thryoid hormone in their system this way. But I tired it on several

> occasions, and didn't find it made a difference for me. So, once

> again it is an individual thing...most recently I began to try taking

> another grain at 4 PM and found I forget to take it since I'm so used

> to my dose in the AM and forgetting about it until the next AM...so

> there are many factors you need to consider for yourself. Lots of

> luck!

[Guest guest]

--- In NaturalThyroidHormones , " depth42 "

> So, now I am in doubt whether the appearing reflux symptoms tell

me, that I am

> already on too much Armour. Do you have any experience how reflux

reacts on

> thyroid medication? Have you observed, how your voice gets affected

by Armour?

>

> Regards

>

>

I don't believe the reflux has anything to do with the Armour, it

should actually speed up your digestion(of course, I know that

doesn';t exactly mean you'll have no acid)...as far as the voice, I

have heard reflux can do this to your vocal chords. Do you have a

slightly raw throat?? Maybe take some chewable calcium at bedtime as

I do when I feel I am having some reflux, it seems to neutralize the

acid - that's actually when you need to take calcium anyway, so it

doesn't interfere with your thyroid meds and so it helps sleep..or

you could try a couple of tums at bedtime.... a couple of years ago,

my husband was having horrible reflux several times a week in bed at

night. I told him to try and take 1 pepcid every night before the

evening meal for 10 days..and it went away and never came back! I was

glad, because I don't believe it's a good idea to take strong things

every day of your life to stop your stomach from producing acid...but

I understand that some people have to. But, I think the reflux and

the hoarsness do not relate to the Armour intake. I'll be interested

to see what others think.

[Guest guest]

> The correct way to tell if you are on enough Armour is to have a basal

reading of 98.0.

Is 98 degrees for both men and women?

thanks.

Peg

[Guest guest]

> The correct way to tell if you are on enough Armour is to have a basal

reading of 98.0.

Is 98 degrees for both men and women?

thanks.

Peg

[Guest guest]

Yes, 98.0 for basal reading is for everyone. Once you rise from bed after

taking basal...take temp it should rise to 98.6.

Patti

Re: How long for basal temperature to rise?

> The correct way to tell if you are on enough Armour is to have a basal

reading of 98.0.

Is 98 degrees for both men and women?

thanks.

Peg