RE: Fiber Supplementation...HELP!!!

[Guest guest]

We too have had tremedous problems with constipation with our 3 year

old. We finally solved it using N-Acetyl Glucosamine (Jarrow Formula

750mg from iherb.com - one capsule twice daily in juice) and aloe

vera juice (1/2 to 1 teaspoon twice daily in juice). Charlie

--- In @y..., Roxanne & Ed Przybysz <przybysz@c...>

wrote:

> I'm looking for advice on finding a good quality " Fiber Supplement "

> formy 6 year old daughter that is GFCF, Yeast Free, Soy Free, Sugar

> Free....yadda, yadda, yadda.....

>

> She is extremely constipated (as usual) and all of the regular

things we

> use are not working on this problem. We give her an EFA Blend

liquid 3

> times a day. Ground flaxseed powder, prunes, spinach salad (daily),

> green leafy veggies (daily), High doses of Vitamin C, Arabinex (By

> Thorn, which she seems to be intolerant to, so we stopped giving it

to

> her) raisins and whatever else we can think of to get her to go to

the

> washroom. Even with all of that, her bowel movements are still

> extremely hard. This leads me to believe that she is definitely NOT

> getting enough fiber in her diet.

>

> Opinions?

>

> Thanks so much in advance!

>

> Roxanne

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Roxanne,

Is she taking any enzymes? Which ones and what dose?

> I'm looking for advice on finding a good quality " Fiber Supplement "

> formy 6 year old daughter that is GFCF, Yeast Free, Soy Free, Sugar

> Free....yadda, yadda, yadda.....

>

> She is extremely constipated (as usual) and all of the regular

things we

> use are not working on this problem. We give her an EFA Blend

liquid 3

> times a day. Ground flaxseed powder, prunes, spinach salad (daily),

> green leafy veggies (daily), High doses of Vitamin C, Arabinex (By

> Thorn, which she seems to be intolerant to, so we stopped giving it

to

> her) raisins and whatever else we can think of to get her to go to

the

> washroom. Even with all of that, her bowel movements are still

> extremely hard. This leads me to believe that she is definitely NOT

> getting enough fiber in her diet.

>

> Opinions?

>

> Thanks so much in advance!

>

> Roxanne

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Roxanne,

Does she experience any pain in her lower right side? Extreme

constipation and pain in that area are clues for appendicitis. If

there is pain, you might want to get her to a doctor pronto! If she

has big particles in her stool, she may have leaky gut syndrome which

L-Glutamine, an amino acid, helps with that. If she can tolerate

Chinese Food, for some reason, that can help a great deal. If she

can tolerate apples with the skin on, that is another natural

laxative. I am surprised the prunes did not work. Maybe prune juice

if it can be tolerated (watered down if needed). Otherwise, maybe

the health food store would have a children's psyllium husk/seed

remedy, one of the best fiber boosters around!

Shoshana

> I'm looking for advice on finding a good quality " Fiber Supplement "

> formy 6 year old daughter that is GFCF, Yeast Free, Soy Free, Sugar

> Free....yadda, yadda, yadda.....

>

> She is extremely constipated (as usual) and all of the regular >

Opinions?

>

> Thanks so much in advance!

>

> Roxanne

>

>

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[Guest guest]

A couple things about fiber. If you are giving extra fiber

(soluble or insoluble) especially if it is dry you need to make sure

you increase her water intake considerably (8-12 glasses for an

adult) or you will make her constipated with the extra fiber. It is

also important to add fiber gradually or you can cause constipation.

Dry fruit like raisins etc. can be very constipating even with

increased water intake, try giving her fresh fruit instead. Dairy,

pasta, red meat, soft drinks, medications and deficiencies etc. can

cause constipation.

With my mercury toxicity I am constipated very often. My hair

analysis showed low Magnesium. Magnesium works very well to soften

and prevent constipation without side effects. You do have to

gradually increase the dosage just so you don't get diarrhea. I

tried everything and the Magnesium works the best for me (I take 1200

mg a day), everyone is different and you will have to experiment.

With a child I would start with 400 mg which is a fairly low dose.

This may work by the next day or take a few days, if it hasn't worked

up the dose to 800mg. It is important not to take the Magnesium with

Calcium, they conflict with each other and you won't get the

softening effect. Chronic constipation can cause other serious bowel

and intestinal problems (extremely painful ones) so it is important

to get it under control.

TK

--- In @y..., Roxanne & Ed Przybysz <przybysz@c...>

wrote:

> I'm looking for advice on finding a good quality " Fiber Supplement "

> formy 6 year old daughter that is GFCF, Yeast Free, Soy Free, Sugar

> Free....yadda, yadda, yadda.....

>

> She is extremely constipated (as usual) and all of the regular

things we

> use are not working on this problem. We give her an EFA Blend

liquid 3

> times a day. Ground flaxseed powder, prunes, spinach salad (daily),

> green leafy veggies (daily), High doses of Vitamin C, Arabinex (By

> Thorn, which she seems to be intolerant to, so we stopped giving it

to

> her) raisins and whatever else we can think of to get her to go to

the

> washroom. Even with all of that, her bowel movements are still

> extremely hard. This leads me to believe that she is definitely NOT

> getting enough fiber in her diet.

>

> Opinions?

>

> Thanks so much in advance!

>

> Roxanne

>

>

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[Guest guest]

We use " Lily of the Desert " Brand Aloe Vera Juice. The dose I

mentioned (1/2 to 1 tsp twice a day) is what works for us. More or

less may be needed for your child. I would start slow and use more as

warranted. Charlie

>

> I am confused about the aloe vera dose. I got the aloe vera juice

from

> local HFS. It says 1-8 oz a day. That means I have to give about 2

> tablespoon equivalent to 1 oz. Am I right?

>

> Ping

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[Guest guest]

>>Message: 13

>> Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 06:55:51 -0400

>>From: Roxanne & Ed Przybysz <przybysz@...>

>>Subject: Fiber Supplementation...HELP!!!

>>I'm looking for advice on finding a good quality " Fiber Supplement "

>>formy 6 year old daughter that is GFCF, Yeast Free, Soy Free, Sugar

>>Free....yadda, yadda, yadda.....

>>She is extremely constipated (as usual) and all of the regular things we

>>use are not working on this problem. We give her an EFA Blend liquid 3

>>times a day. Ground flaxseed powder, prunes, spinach salad (daily),

>>green leafy veggies (daily), High doses of Vitamin C, Arabinex (By

>>Thorn, which she seems to be intolerant to, so we stopped giving it to

>>her) raisins and whatever else we can think of to get her to go to the

>>washroom. Even with all of that, her bowel movements are still

>>extremely hard. This leads me to believe that she is definitely NOT

>>getting enough fiber in her diet.

For what it's worth, our son used to have chronic constipation too, but

after a round of Diflucan, then aggressive (natural) yeast & bacterial

treatment, they've almost normalized (a small miracle there). Have you

tried Culturelle (1 to 3 caps just before bedtime)? Or Solaray's " Yeast

Cleanse " (stinks and tastes horrible, but does the trick). Extra magnesium

might make the difference too.

Hope that helps,

[Guest guest]

From what you list, it sounds like she does get fiber. How about aloe vera

juice and liquid magnesium to soften the stools? Also make sure she drinks

lots of water. You also might try massaging and kneading her abdomen in a

clockwise direction to help loosen things up.

Gaylen

[Guest guest]

Roxanne-- I don't know if this will meet your criteria, but I LOVE

Benefiber. It is new--you buy it over the counter next to the other

fiber laxatives. It is not gritty at all. It dissolves completely

in liquid, no flavor, no odor, and no color if you let the

juice/water sit for a minute. My dd has had rocks for bm's... and

while on this product, her stool is staying very soft.

If that alone doesn't work, then perhaps consider adding a little

magnesium citrate-- mag citrate is used for clean-out procedures,

when given in large doses. A little bit daily can be enough to keep

the stool moving through.

W

--- In @y..., Roxanne & Ed Przybysz <przybysz@c...>

wrote:

> I'm looking for advice on finding a good quality " Fiber Supplement "

> formy 6 year old daughter that is GFCF, Yeast Free, Soy Free, Sugar

> Free....yadda, yadda, yadda.....

> > Roxanne

>

>

[Guest guest]

I wanted to agree with TK that magnesium really can get things

moving... when I was taking mag though, I found myself constantly

yawning all day long. Someone suggested taking it at bedtime instead

of first thing in the morning. This helped and I can now get to

sleep a little easier, and be " awake " during the day. (Magnesium is

very relaxing).

I also wanted to add that with chronic constipation, sometimes you

need to do a clean-out--the old impacted stool stays up high and you

need to get things moving to the diarrhea state to get a lot of the

old stool out... then you can work on regularity.

Also, Benefiber is hydrolyzed guar gum... so you can check into

whether that meets your criteria.

W

> A couple things about fiber. If you are giving extra fiber

> (soluble or insoluble) especially if it is dry you need to make

[Guest guest]

> Shoshana,

>

> I thought psyllium was in the Gluten family? Hopefully I'm wrong

Roxanne, I am not sure about this, but I will try to check it out. I

have to avoid glutens myself, but no one has told me so far that

psyllium would be out for me. Anyone else know about this?

Shoshana