Re: What is piriformis?/tom

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hi tom

thanks for your reply. I was told i had sacrum bit out of alignment. that

is why she sent me to chiropractor. arent physios more for the muscles?

Anyway, i had MRI done 2 weeks ago and everything looked fine apart from a

1cm cyst on S1. They want me to go back so they can have a look at it

again. do you think it could cause something like vulvar, pelvic or back

pain?

my chorop. thinks it is nothing. I suppose i will find out this thursday.

they called it something like Tyrov cyst rather.

what is non-manipulative way of therapy? who does that?

Anja

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But is the sacrum is out of place, the muscles need to be strengthened

to keep it in place. So while a chiropracter could get a bone back in

place, it'll keep moving out of place until the muscles are strong

enough to deal with it. (That's happened to me, all the work the PT

did to adjust the pelvis and tailbone helped, but wouldn't stay fixed

until we found the right strengthening exercises to add.) I'm proud

to say that my sacroilliac joint has remained mobile and not sticking

for the past two and a half weeks! :-)

> hi tom

>

> thanks for your reply. I was told i had sacrum bit out of

alignment. that

> is why she sent me to chiropractor. arent physios more for the

muscles?

> Anyway, i had MRI done 2 weeks ago and everything looked fine apart

from a

> 1cm cyst on S1. They want me to go back so they can have a look at

it

> again. do you think it could cause something like vulvar, pelvic or

back

> pain?

> my chorop. thinks it is nothing. I suppose i will find out this

thursday.

> they called it something like Tyrov cyst rather.

> what is non-manipulative way of therapy? who does that?

>

>

> Anja

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Hi Anja,

A sacral asymmetry can indicate piriformis problems or the piriformis problems

can cause sacral asymmetries. It one of those age old problems... " which came

first, the chicken or the egg. "

" Physios " as they are called down under may have skills in the manual therapies

depending on where they graduated from, what extra course work they took.

These non-manipulative manual therapies are in my opinion much better, safer and

much more effective than the manipulations. They are tougher to learn and

tougher to find people who do them with respectable results.

Two of the main techniques are called Muscle Energy and Counterstrain. Start

calling clinics and ask if they have anyone who is EXPERT in them.

If the piriformis is in dysfucntion it may compress the nerve that goes down the

back of the leg and also the pudendal nerve. That can cause pain and

dysfucntion.

TKOPT

www.tomocklerpt.com

Anja Risovic wrote:

> hi tom

>

> thanks for your reply. I was told i had sacrum bit out of alignment. that

> is why she sent me to chiropractor. arent physios more for the muscles?

> Anyway, i had MRI done 2 weeks ago and everything looked fine apart from a

> 1cm cyst on S1. They want me to go back so they can have a look at it

> again. do you think it could cause something like vulvar, pelvic or back

> pain?

> my chorop. thinks it is nothing. I suppose i will find out this thursday.

> they called it something like Tyrov cyst rather.

> what is non-manipulative way of therapy? who does that?

>

> Anja

>

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!!!

You betcha!!! Great imput!!

The PT should always give stabilzation exercises after

the scaral dysfunction has been corrected. Using the non-manipulative

techniques uses the muscles and nervous system to draw the bone into position

and since you didn't use force

( manipulation) to get it into a better allignment it has a tendencey

to stay in place better!

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tarnalberry wrote:

But is the sacrum is out of place, the muscles need

to be strengthened

to keep it in place. So while a chiropracter could get a bone

back in

place, it'll keep moving out of place until the muscles are strong

enough to deal with it. (That's happened to me, all the work

the PT

did to adjust the pelvis and tailbone helped, but wouldn't stay fixed

until we found the right strengthening exercises to add.) I'm

proud

to say that my sacroilliac joint has remained mobile and not sticking

for the past two and a half weeks! :-)

> hi tom

>

> thanks for your reply. I was told i had sacrum bit out of

alignment. that

> is why she sent me to chiropractor. arent physios more for

the

muscles?

> Anyway, i had MRI done 2 weeks ago and everything looked fine apart

from a

> 1cm cyst on S1. They want me to go back so they can have a

look at

it

> again. do you think it could cause something like vulvar, pelvic

or

back

> pain?

> my chorop. thinks it is nothing. I suppose i will find out

this

thursday.

> they called it something like Tyrov cyst rather.

> what is non-manipulative way of therapy? who does that?

>

>

> Anja

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tom

i actually only found one lady who does muscle energy but not counterstrain.

what do you think if my physio is doing the right thing or not?

Anja

Re: What is piriformis?/tom

> Hi Anja,

> A sacral asymmetry can indicate piriformis problems or the piriformis

problems can cause sacral asymmetries. It one of those age old

problems... " which came first, the chicken or the egg. "

> " Physios " as they are called down under may have skills in the manual

therapies depending on where they graduated from, what extra course work

they took.

> These non-manipulative manual therapies are in my opinion much better,

safer and much more effective than the manipulations. They are tougher to

learn and tougher to find people who do them with respectable results.

> Two of the main techniques are called Muscle Energy and Counterstrain.

Start calling clinics and ask if they have anyone who is EXPERT in them.

> If the piriformis is in dysfucntion it may compress the nerve that goes

down the back of the leg and also the pudendal nerve. That can cause pain

and dysfucntion.

> TKOPT

> www.tomocklerpt.com

>

> Anja Risovic wrote:

>

> > hi tom

> >

> > thanks for your reply. I was told i had sacrum bit out of alignment.

that

> > is why she sent me to chiropractor. arent physios more for the muscles?

> > Anyway, i had MRI done 2 weeks ago and everything looked fine apart from

a

> > 1cm cyst on S1. They want me to go back so they can have a look at it

> > again. do you think it could cause something like vulvar, pelvic or

back

> > pain?

> > my chorop. thinks it is nothing. I suppose i will find out this

thursday.

> > they called it something like Tyrov cyst rather.

> > what is non-manipulative way of therapy? who does that?

> >

> > Anja

> >

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me again

i want to ask a question in regards to any nerve injury.

if one has nerve involvement in this whole mess(vulvar pain) would that

nerve(intrapment, injured, or misinterpratation of normal impulses) with the

time cause any changes on the vulvar skin. And why?

also, if there is any nerve involvement would that cause constant pain or

come and go pain. for example: i have constant vulvar pain but pelvic pain

comes and goes. how does this relate to sacrum disalignment, muscle problem

or nerve (compresion, injury, missinterpretation of normal impulses)?

What is EMG of pelvis?

thanks

Anja

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Anja,

Muslce Energy is a great technique and frequently, it is all that I need to

correct the problem...give it a shot!!

TKOPT

Anja Risovic wrote:

> tom

>

> i actually only found one lady who does muscle energy but not counterstrain.

> what do you think if my physio is doing the right thing or not?

>

> Anja

> Re: What is piriformis?/tom

>

> > Hi Anja,

> > A sacral asymmetry can indicate piriformis problems or the piriformis

> problems can cause sacral asymmetries. It one of those age old

> problems... " which came first, the chicken or the egg. "

> > " Physios " as they are called down under may have skills in the manual

> therapies depending on where they graduated from, what extra course work

> they took.

> > These non-manipulative manual therapies are in my opinion much better,

> safer and much more effective than the manipulations. They are tougher to

> learn and tougher to find people who do them with respectable results.

> > Two of the main techniques are called Muscle Energy and Counterstrain.

> Start calling clinics and ask if they have anyone who is EXPERT in them.

> > If the piriformis is in dysfucntion it may compress the nerve that goes

> down the back of the leg and also the pudendal nerve. That can cause pain

> and dysfucntion.

> > TKOPT

> > www.tomocklerpt.com

> >

> > Anja Risovic wrote:

> >

> > > hi tom

> > >

> > > thanks for your reply. I was told i had sacrum bit out of alignment.

> that

> > > is why she sent me to chiropractor. arent physios more for the muscles?

> > > Anyway, i had MRI done 2 weeks ago and everything looked fine apart from

> a

> > > 1cm cyst on S1. They want me to go back so they can have a look at it

> > > again. do you think it could cause something like vulvar, pelvic or

> back

> > > pain?

> > > my chorop. thinks it is nothing. I suppose i will find out this

> thursday.

> > > they called it something like Tyrov cyst rather.

> > > what is non-manipulative way of therapy? who does that?

> > >

> > > Anja

> > >

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Hi Me Again,

The pelvic pain that comes and goes may be pain from the dysfucntional muscle

and that tends to come and go. The vulvar pain, if it is due to nerve

compression, will tend to be constant. Skin changes are more likely

due to biochemical factors.

TKOPT

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Anja Risovic wrote:

> me again

>

> i want to ask a question in regards to any nerve injury.

> if one has nerve involvement in this whole mess(vulvar pain) would that

> nerve(intrapment, injured, or misinterpratation of normal impulses) with the

> time cause any changes on the vulvar skin. And why?

>

> also, if there is any nerve involvement would that cause constant pain or

> come and go pain. for example: i have constant vulvar pain but pelvic pain

> comes and goes. how does this relate to sacrum disalignment, muscle problem

> or nerve (compresion, injury, missinterpretation of normal impulses)?

>

> What is EMG of pelvis?

>

> thanks

> Anja

>

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thanks tom

what kind of factors are biochemical factors?

What is Emg of pelvis?

with my vulvar pain i can have good and bad days but it never went away

completely, or it can be constant with no change for months and years. Is

that likely to be caused by a nerve compression? after 6 years of pain i

started getting changes on my vulvar skin.

Anja

[Guest guest]

HI Anja,

The biochemical factors are like inflamations,infections, chemical

reactions, fluctiations in hormones, changes from decreased blood supply

etc.

EMG stands for ElectoMyoGraphy.. and this is electrical testing

of the muscles, usually used to determine if msucles are properly inervated

( supplied by the nerves.)

A nerve conduction test is targeted to the nerves specifically so

this is more likely what the Doctors mentioned as many of them don't know

the differece.

TKOPT

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Anja Risovic wrote:

thanks tom

what kind of factors are biochemical factors?

What is Emg of pelvis?

with my vulvar pain i can have good and bad days but it never went away

completely, or it can be constant with no change for months and years.

Is

that likely to be caused by a nerve compression? after

6 years of pain i

started getting changes on my vulvar skin.

Anja

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