Re: Shopping problems

[Guest guest]

Harry,

I wish I could say that any of my fights ended in friendship like yours did,

but it never happened. Winning them as friends was not even my motivation,

it was just to get them off my back any way that I could. You were savvy to

make something positive out of what was otherwise a very negative

experience. My positive out of negative was that these fights taught me

restraint and taught me to know my limits. Needless to say, these

experiences coupled with my own conscience helped me to better control my

temper, which I'm sure helped my blood pressure and my own mental health.

It's sad that we sometimes have to learn something about ourselves this way,

but at least I can say I learned something from these experiences instead of

it just being an excuse to hurt someone.

Bill

[Guest guest]

Harry,

I wish I could say that any of my fights ended in friendship like yours did,

but it never happened. Winning them as friends was not even my motivation,

it was just to get them off my back any way that I could. You were savvy to

make something positive out of what was otherwise a very negative

experience. My positive out of negative was that these fights taught me

restraint and taught me to know my limits. Needless to say, these

experiences coupled with my own conscience helped me to better control my

temper, which I'm sure helped my blood pressure and my own mental health.

It's sad that we sometimes have to learn something about ourselves this way,

but at least I can say I learned something from these experiences instead of

it just being an excuse to hurt someone.

Bill

[Guest guest]

lol lol your nuts baites... just like norman! *laugh*

Regards,

Re: Shopping problems

>

> ,

>

> I would have kicked this guy but he was much taller than me, he being 6

> feet

> 4 inches, me 5 feet 8 inches. One time I did kick someone in that delicate

> area rendering him unmoveable for what seemed like an eternity. I was

> scared

> that I might have killed him so swore never to use that much force again.

>

> Bill

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

lol lol your nuts baites... just like norman! *laugh*

Regards,

Re: Shopping problems

>

> ,

>

> I would have kicked this guy but he was much taller than me, he being 6

> feet

> 4 inches, me 5 feet 8 inches. One time I did kick someone in that delicate

> area rendering him unmoveable for what seemed like an eternity. I was

> scared

> that I might have killed him so swore never to use that much force again.

>

> Bill

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

lol lol your nuts baites... just like norman! *laugh*

Regards,

Re: Shopping problems

>

> ,

>

> I would have kicked this guy but he was much taller than me, he being 6

> feet

> 4 inches, me 5 feet 8 inches. One time I did kick someone in that delicate

> area rendering him unmoveable for what seemed like an eternity. I was

> scared

> that I might have killed him so swore never to use that much force again.

>

> Bill

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

ya, I was kidding around is all *grin*

Regards,

Re: Shopping problems

,

I would have kicked this guy but he was much taller than me, he being 6 feet

4 inches, me 5 feet 8 inches. One time I did kick someone in that delicate

area rendering him unmoveable for what seemed like an eternity. I was scared

that I might have killed him so swore never to use that much force again.

Bill

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[Guest guest]

,

I figured that you were just kidding, but yes I kick only once that I can

remember. Ah, those were the days....to forget!

Bill

[Guest guest]

I love my mother, too!

Re: Shopping problems

>

>

> >

> > ,

> >

> > I would have kicked this guy but he was much taller than me, he being 6

> > feet

> > 4 inches, me 5 feet 8 inches. One time I did kick someone in that

> delicate

> > area rendering him unmoveable for what seemed like an eternity. I was

> > scared

> > that I might have killed him so swore never to use that much force

> again.

> >

> > Bill

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I love my mother, too!

Re: Shopping problems

>

>

> >

> > ,

> >

> > I would have kicked this guy but he was much taller than me, he being 6

> > feet

> > 4 inches, me 5 feet 8 inches. One time I did kick someone in that

> delicate

> > area rendering him unmoveable for what seemed like an eternity. I was

> > scared

> > that I might have killed him so swore never to use that much force

> again.

> >

> > Bill

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

lol lol lol. your to funny Harry *grins*

Regards,

Re: Shopping problems

>

>

> >

> > ,

> >

> > I would have kicked this guy but he was much taller than me, he being 6

> > feet

> > 4 inches, me 5 feet 8 inches. One time I did kick someone in that

> delicate

> > area rendering him unmoveable for what seemed like an eternity. I was

> > scared

> > that I might have killed him so swore never to use that much force

> again.

> >

> > Bill

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Norman? From Mad Magazine?

Cy, the Ancient Okie...

Re: Shopping problems

lol lol your nuts baites... just like norman! *laugh*

Regards,

Re: Shopping problems

>

> ,

>

> I would have kicked this guy but he was much taller than me, he

being 6

> feet

> 4 inches, me 5 feet 8 inches. One time I did kick someone in that

delicate

> area rendering him unmoveable for what seemed like an eternity. I

was

> scared

> that I might have killed him so swore never to use that much force

again.

>

> Bill

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

OOOH, my you guys are so violent!

Re: Shopping problems

Bill.

you should have just kicked him in the nuts and been done with it lol lol

lol *laugh*

*wink*

Regards,

Re: Shopping problems

Harry,

You said it very well about not tolerating bullies. There were many times

I

was able to use means other than violence to make a bully leave me alone,

but when I had to get physical, I did.

One poor fellow used to steal my lunch every day. Tiring of this very

quickly, I came up with a plan. I made up a very special lunch bag for him

filled with small rocks at the bottom (for solidity) into the top of which

I

very carefully placed a spring device from an old " jack-in-the-box " , you

know, the kind where you'd open the box and up popped a clown or other

character. Tthen I added a mixture of bits styrofoam, ketchup and squished

grapes. Sitting stop this concoction, a set of chattering teeth of which I

filed away a bit of the bottom of the teeth, giving them a somewhat better

" bite. " As you can see, I put a lot of work into this because I wanted

this

to work and to end this problem once and for all.

When this 6 foot 4 inch bully came to steal my lunch, he would taunt me by

standing there and reach his hand into the sack and usually go " let's see

what you brought me for lunch today. " Sure enough, Walter did his usual

" Rob

Bill for lunch " routine only to dig into the bag, find a set of teeth

attached to his hand and, of course, the weight of his hand pushed on the

spring which promptly evacuated the ghastly combination of katchup, grapes

and styrofoam, katchup and grape all over his face, his hands, his shirt,

etc. The real icing on the cake was the fact that when he would bully me,

he

always made sure to have some of his friends nearby so he could show off.

This time, however, he was totally humiliated at what had just happened,

in

front of those same friends. This time, HE was the laughting-stock. And

miracle of miracles, even HE got the message to stay away from me, which

he

did from then on. I was glad I didn't have to get physical with him, yet I

was able to get him off my back with a little bit of ingenuity. I

certainly

was nervous though, hoping my little contraption would work as planned.

And

this paid other dividends as word of his humiliation spread, other

students

that had been toying with me didn't bother me as often. I wonder why?

Yup, my principle had always been to use as little force as necessary and

to

try to use intellect rather than brawn when at all possible.

I had many a quiet, peaceful lunch from then on.

Bill

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[Guest guest]

Just trying to survive.

Re: Shopping problems

>

>

> Harry,

>

> You said it very well about not tolerating bullies. There were many times

> I

> was able to use means other than violence to make a bully leave me alone,

> but when I had to get physical, I did.

>

> One poor fellow used to steal my lunch every day. Tiring of this very

> quickly, I came up with a plan. I made up a very special lunch bag for

> him

> filled with small rocks at the bottom (for solidity) into the top of

> which

> I

> very carefully placed a spring device from an old " jack-in-the-box " , you

> know, the kind where you'd open the box and up popped a clown or other

> character. Tthen I added a mixture of bits styrofoam, ketchup and

> squished

> grapes. Sitting stop this concoction, a set of chattering teeth of which

> I

> filed away a bit of the bottom of the teeth, giving them a somewhat

> better

> " bite. " As you can see, I put a lot of work into this because I wanted

> this

> to work and to end this problem once and for all.

>

> When this 6 foot 4 inch bully came to steal my lunch, he would taunt me

> by

> standing there and reach his hand into the sack and usually go " let's see

> what you brought me for lunch today. " Sure enough, Walter did his usual

> " Rob

> Bill for lunch " routine only to dig into the bag, find a set of teeth

> attached to his hand and, of course, the weight of his hand pushed on the

> spring which promptly evacuated the ghastly combination of katchup,

> grapes

> and styrofoam, katchup and grape all over his face, his hands, his

> shirt,

> etc. The real icing on the cake was the fact that when he would bully me,

> he

> always made sure to have some of his friends nearby so he could show off.

> This time, however, he was totally humiliated at what had just happened,

> in

> front of those same friends. This time, HE was the laughting-stock. And

> miracle of miracles, even HE got the message to stay away from me, which

> he

> did from then on. I was glad I didn't have to get physical with him, yet

> I

> was able to get him off my back with a little bit of ingenuity. I

> certainly

> was nervous though, hoping my little contraption would work as planned.

> And

> this paid other dividends as word of his humiliation spread, other

> students

> that had been toying with me didn't bother me as often. I wonder why?

>

> Yup, my principle had always been to use as little force as necessary and

> to

> try to use intellect rather than brawn when at all possible.

>

> I had many a quiet, peaceful lunch from then on.

>

> Bill

>

>

>

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> --

>

[Guest guest]

How did you learn how to fight so wicked?

When I was younger my brothers taught me to fight but they didn't like it

when it came back on them.

but I don't feel as strong now as then.

And I also feel walking away for me is better.

Just some thoughts.

Now with you being a diabetic do you feel your bones are more brittle?

--Dar

--Every Saint has a Past,

Every Sinner has a Future

Re: Shopping problems

>

> Dar,

>

> Yes I had physical confrontations all the way through my senior year. The

> worst was during my junior year with most of my " attackers " being seniors.

> Even in my senior year, I still had to send a clear message from time to

> time that I wasn't going to take it. As time went on, I think other kids

> got

> the message not to mess with this " blind " guy, because no one except me

> knew

> wha I could and could not see. That gave me a great advantage in survival.

> The other advantage I had was that none of those kids wanted to hurt their

> reputation by reporting that they'd been beaten by a " blind " guy, so they

> went away licking their wounds and eating crow and didn't say a word. It

> hurt me a lot because I'd rather have had more friends and if I had my

> drothers, would liked not having to hurt anyone. But if fighting was their

> only language, I had to speak it fluently enough to make them understand.

> All I wanted was to be left alone, so I could concentrate on my school

> work,

> learn and excel. Instead, my focus was clearly in survival mode. Not a

> good

> experience to be sure, but still I made it out of there in one piece and

> because of my experience, I can have a lot more empathy for others who

> walk

> that same path.

>

> Bill

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wow you must be a very strong person to do such a thing.

And what a shock rite?

Do you know what he is doing now?

I bet he shared this with many.

--Dar

--Every Saint has a Past,

Every Sinner has a Future

Re: Shopping problems

>

>

>>

>> ,

>>

>> I would have kicked this guy but he was much taller than me, he being 6

>> feet

>> 4 inches, me 5 feet 8 inches. One time I did kick someone in that

>> delicate

>> area rendering him unmoveable for what seemed like an eternity. I was

>> scared

>> that I might have killed him so swore never to use that much force again.

>>

>> Bill

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Dar,

You know, they say necessity is the mother of invention, and the only thing

I needed to learn how to fight was a burning will to survive and the

motivation that hopefully it would then allow me to move onto more important

things. Probably part of my fight came from the rage built up inside after

years of being bullied and it would come back to haunt those who were cruel

to me. I didn't have anyone to show me how to fight. I merely did the best I

could with what I had. And I would like to think that if these bullies

survived long enough to mature, they would learn how to treat and respect

others.

Bill

[Guest guest]

I am not that strong now. He does several things now. He is a fill in

minister in a Baptist church and he also does piano tuning and plays the

stock market.

Re: Shopping problems

>>

>>

>>>

>>> ,

>>>

>>> I would have kicked this guy but he was much taller than me, he being 6

>>> feet

>>> 4 inches, me 5 feet 8 inches. One time I did kick someone in that

>>> delicate

>>> area rendering him unmoveable for what seemed like an eternity. I was

>>> scared

>>> that I might have killed him so swore never to use that much force

>>> again.

>>>

>>> Bill

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

[Guest guest]

norman baites from the old black/white psyco movie. *grin*

Regards,

Re: Shopping problems

>

> ,

>

> I would have kicked this guy but he was much taller than me, he

being 6

> feet

> 4 inches, me 5 feet 8 inches. One time I did kick someone in that

delicate

> area rendering him unmoveable for what seemed like an eternity. I

was

> scared

> that I might have killed him so swore never to use that much force

again.

>

> Bill

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

leave it to norman baites to toss someone down the stairs. let me guess, mother

told you to do it, right? *laugh*

Regards,

Re: Shopping problems

>

>

> Harry,

>

> You said it very well about not tolerating bullies. There were many times

> I

> was able to use means other than violence to make a bully leave me alone,

> but when I had to get physical, I did.

>

> One poor fellow used to steal my lunch every day. Tiring of this very

> quickly, I came up with a plan. I made up a very special lunch bag for

> him

> filled with small rocks at the bottom (for solidity) into the top of

> which

> I

> very carefully placed a spring device from an old " jack-in-the-box " , you

> know, the kind where you'd open the box and up popped a clown or other

> character. Tthen I added a mixture of bits styrofoam, ketchup and

> squished

> grapes. Sitting stop this concoction, a set of chattering teeth of which

> I

> filed away a bit of the bottom of the teeth, giving them a somewhat

> better

> " bite. " As you can see, I put a lot of work into this because I wanted

> this

> to work and to end this problem once and for all.

>

> When this 6 foot 4 inch bully came to steal my lunch, he would taunt me

> by

> standing there and reach his hand into the sack and usually go " let's see

> what you brought me for lunch today. " Sure enough, Walter did his usual

> " Rob

> Bill for lunch " routine only to dig into the bag, find a set of teeth

> attached to his hand and, of course, the weight of his hand pushed on the

> spring which promptly evacuated the ghastly combination of katchup,

> grapes

> and styrofoam, katchup and grape all over his face, his hands, his

> shirt,

> etc. The real icing on the cake was the fact that when he would bully me,

> he

> always made sure to have some of his friends nearby so he could show off.

> This time, however, he was totally humiliated at what had just happened,

> in

> front of those same friends. This time, HE was the laughting-stock. And

> miracle of miracles, even HE got the message to stay away from me, which

> he

> did from then on. I was glad I didn't have to get physical with him, yet

> I

> was able to get him off my back with a little bit of ingenuity. I

> certainly

> was nervous though, hoping my little contraption would work as planned.

> And

> this paid other dividends as word of his humiliation spread, other

> students

> that had been toying with me didn't bother me as often. I wonder why?

>

> Yup, my principle had always been to use as little force as necessary and

> to

> try to use intellect rather than brawn when at all possible.

>

> I had many a quiet, peaceful lunch from then on.

>

> Bill

>

>

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

> --

>

[Guest guest]

I know about good old Norm but the image of the dumb looking little

person who appeared in and around Mad Magizine also came to my little

pea brain...

" What, me worry? "

Cy, the Ancient Okie...

Re: Shopping problems

norman baites from the old black/white psyco movie. *grin*

Regards,

Re: Shopping problems

>

> ,

>

> I would have kicked this guy but he was much taller than me, he

being 6

> feet

> 4 inches, me 5 feet 8 inches. One time I did kick someone in that

delicate

> area rendering him unmoveable for what seemed like an eternity. I

was

> scared

> that I might have killed him so swore never to use that much force

again.

>

> Bill

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

ah, that little red headed kid?

Regards,

Re: Shopping problems

>

> ,

>

> I would have kicked this guy but he was much taller than me, he

being 6

> feet

> 4 inches, me 5 feet 8 inches. One time I did kick someone in that

delicate

> area rendering him unmoveable for what seemed like an eternity. I

was

> scared

> that I might have killed him so swore never to use that much force

again.

>

> Bill

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

ah, that little red headed kid?

Regards,

Re: Shopping problems

>

> ,

>

> I would have kicked this guy but he was much taller than me, he

being 6

> feet

> 4 inches, me 5 feet 8 inches. One time I did kick someone in that

delicate

> area rendering him unmoveable for what seemed like an eternity. I

was

> scared

> that I might have killed him so swore never to use that much force

again.

>

> Bill

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

ah, that little red headed kid?

Regards,

Re: Shopping problems

>

> ,

>

> I would have kicked this guy but he was much taller than me, he

being 6

> feet

> 4 inches, me 5 feet 8 inches. One time I did kick someone in that

delicate

> area rendering him unmoveable for what seemed like an eternity. I

was

> scared

> that I might have killed him so swore never to use that much force

again.

>

> Bill

>

>

>

>

>

>