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Shane, I just have " thunk " myself out of loving food so much. I have found

other things that mean a lot more to me than putting food (no matter how

good) into my mouth. By the way, I love jalapeno poppers and have found

that eating only 3 does not mess me up-and no dip with them.

Re: caffeine

have to say, this post had me rolling on the floor. I often feel this way,

giving up stuff is with out a doubt the hardest part, I love food, love

drinks, like soda, though I did switch to diet,. which is an acquired taste.

but I often feel like everything I find, that I like that is diet, or what

ever, ends up being as bad if not worse then the original, so agreed, why

not just say screw it and eat or drink the original, granted, if you give

up all, you probably will live, and if not death awaits you sooner, but ya

only live once, right? so why not live like you want, then the other part of

me, is like well, if you want to live, you will lose the weight, and drop

the food and drink. I see why some people, go get an operation that

allows them to only eat an ounce of food, they not only lose weight, but

they also if diabetic, no longer have to worry, about eating the wrong

thing or drinking the wrong thing, because when your stomach is tightened or

hell, ripped out,, smiles, you eat one piece, of something, or drink a drop

of water or what ever, and you are full, maybe that would be a reasonable,

rout, then, I figure to bad I am not to fond of hospitals, otherwise I would

go, smiles. so I sit here still, fighting the daemons, that consume my

life, like the want to eat pizza pies, milk, bread, cereal, pot pies, and

good stuff like that. what do you do. sometimes I wish, I just hated food,

then I wouldn't ever have to worry about it. but then, I would never know

the sweet sweet feeling of eating a jalapeño popper or 13. only now i have

this voice in the back of my head going no no you can't its got breading on

it, and then i start to feel so guilty. in the end, it just seems like a

fight not to eat, and after all the fighting you die anyway. in short, I

have a ton of thoughts and lots of trouble sorting it out, I know what I

need to do, and have with some of it, but I truly struggle, on an every day

basis. thanks for listening.

shane

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> >

> >

> > Good Morning ,

> > Do you have any thoughts on tea?

> > BTW, I drink the coffee for the caffeine alone and actually do not care

> > for the taste at all.

> > You sure seem to have bounce to the ounce. Smile.

> > Rita

> >

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Shane, I just have " thunk " myself out of loving food so much. I have found

other things that mean a lot more to me than putting food (no matter how

good) into my mouth. By the way, I love jalapeno poppers and have found

that eating only 3 does not mess me up-and no dip with them.

Re: caffeine

have to say, this post had me rolling on the floor. I often feel this way,

giving up stuff is with out a doubt the hardest part, I love food, love

drinks, like soda, though I did switch to diet,. which is an acquired taste.

but I often feel like everything I find, that I like that is diet, or what

ever, ends up being as bad if not worse then the original, so agreed, why

not just say screw it and eat or drink the original, granted, if you give

up all, you probably will live, and if not death awaits you sooner, but ya

only live once, right? so why not live like you want, then the other part of

me, is like well, if you want to live, you will lose the weight, and drop

the food and drink. I see why some people, go get an operation that

allows them to only eat an ounce of food, they not only lose weight, but

they also if diabetic, no longer have to worry, about eating the wrong

thing or drinking the wrong thing, because when your stomach is tightened or

hell, ripped out,, smiles, you eat one piece, of something, or drink a drop

of water or what ever, and you are full, maybe that would be a reasonable,

rout, then, I figure to bad I am not to fond of hospitals, otherwise I would

go, smiles. so I sit here still, fighting the daemons, that consume my

life, like the want to eat pizza pies, milk, bread, cereal, pot pies, and

good stuff like that. what do you do. sometimes I wish, I just hated food,

then I wouldn't ever have to worry about it. but then, I would never know

the sweet sweet feeling of eating a jalapeño popper or 13. only now i have

this voice in the back of my head going no no you can't its got breading on

it, and then i start to feel so guilty. in the end, it just seems like a

fight not to eat, and after all the fighting you die anyway. in short, I

have a ton of thoughts and lots of trouble sorting it out, I know what I

need to do, and have with some of it, but I truly struggle, on an every day

basis. thanks for listening.

shane

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> >

> >

> > Good Morning ,

> > Do you have any thoughts on tea?

> > BTW, I drink the coffee for the caffeine alone and actually do not care

> > for the taste at all.

> > You sure seem to have bounce to the ounce. Smile.

> > Rita

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Shane, I just have " thunk " myself out of loving food so much. I have found

other things that mean a lot more to me than putting food (no matter how

good) into my mouth. By the way, I love jalapeno poppers and have found

that eating only 3 does not mess me up-and no dip with them.

Re: caffeine

have to say, this post had me rolling on the floor. I often feel this way,

giving up stuff is with out a doubt the hardest part, I love food, love

drinks, like soda, though I did switch to diet,. which is an acquired taste.

but I often feel like everything I find, that I like that is diet, or what

ever, ends up being as bad if not worse then the original, so agreed, why

not just say screw it and eat or drink the original, granted, if you give

up all, you probably will live, and if not death awaits you sooner, but ya

only live once, right? so why not live like you want, then the other part of

me, is like well, if you want to live, you will lose the weight, and drop

the food and drink. I see why some people, go get an operation that

allows them to only eat an ounce of food, they not only lose weight, but

they also if diabetic, no longer have to worry, about eating the wrong

thing or drinking the wrong thing, because when your stomach is tightened or

hell, ripped out,, smiles, you eat one piece, of something, or drink a drop

of water or what ever, and you are full, maybe that would be a reasonable,

rout, then, I figure to bad I am not to fond of hospitals, otherwise I would

go, smiles. so I sit here still, fighting the daemons, that consume my

life, like the want to eat pizza pies, milk, bread, cereal, pot pies, and

good stuff like that. what do you do. sometimes I wish, I just hated food,

then I wouldn't ever have to worry about it. but then, I would never know

the sweet sweet feeling of eating a jalapeño popper or 13. only now i have

this voice in the back of my head going no no you can't its got breading on

it, and then i start to feel so guilty. in the end, it just seems like a

fight not to eat, and after all the fighting you die anyway. in short, I

have a ton of thoughts and lots of trouble sorting it out, I know what I

need to do, and have with some of it, but I truly struggle, on an every day

basis. thanks for listening.

shane

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> >

> >

> > Good Morning ,

> > Do you have any thoughts on tea?

> > BTW, I drink the coffee for the caffeine alone and actually do not care

> > for the taste at all.

> > You sure seem to have bounce to the ounce. Smile.

> > Rita

> >

> >

> >

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ya, it just isn't good for us in general. I agree with you Cy...

Regards,

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>

> Lol! Oh my . I use two tea bags per cup! Why do you cut

down

> on

> caffeine?

> Rita

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and a diabetic with poor a1c levels *laugh*

Regards,

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>

> Lol! Oh my . I use two tea bags per cup! Why do you cut down

> on

> caffeine?

> Rita

>

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and a diabetic with poor a1c levels *laugh*

Regards,

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>

>

> Lol! Oh my . I use two tea bags per cup! Why do you cut down

> on

> caffeine?

> Rita

>

>

>

>

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don't pitch it, just cut back on it like filling your cup of coffee half full

and then add water to cap it. just cut back some is all.

Regards,

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>

>

> Good Morning ,

> Do you have any thoughts on tea?

> BTW, I drink the coffee for the caffeine alone and actually do not care

> for the taste at all.

> You sure seem to have bounce to the ounce. Smile.

> Rita

>

>

>

>

>

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I love those poppers too!

Regards,

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> >

> >

> > Good Morning ,

> > Do you have any thoughts on tea?

> > BTW, I drink the coffee for the caffeine alone and actually do not care

> > for the taste at all.

> > You sure seem to have bounce to the ounce. Smile.

> > Rita

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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I love those poppers too!

Regards,

Re: caffeine

> >

> >

> > Good Morning ,

> > Do you have any thoughts on tea?

> > BTW, I drink the coffee for the caffeine alone and actually do not care

> > for the taste at all.

> > You sure seem to have bounce to the ounce. Smile.

> > Rita

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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counseling is a great option for compulsive eating. people eat compulsively for

emotional reasons. taking a physical approach to curing it, like the stomach

surgery, doesn't fix it since it is emotional.

I say go for some counseling and find out what it is in your mind/emotions that

causes you to eat compulsively and get it fixed emotionally.

Just my two beans...

Regards,

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>

> >Well Precious, if just one heart attack or stroke is prevented by a piece

> >of information on this list, it is well worth being in existence.

> >Rita

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counseling is a great option for compulsive eating. people eat compulsively for

emotional reasons. taking a physical approach to curing it, like the stomach

surgery, doesn't fix it since it is emotional.

I say go for some counseling and find out what it is in your mind/emotions that

causes you to eat compulsively and get it fixed emotionally.

Just my two beans...

Regards,

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>

>

> >Well Precious, if just one heart attack or stroke is prevented by a piece

> >of information on this list, it is well worth being in existence.

> >Rita

>

>

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counseling is a great option for compulsive eating. people eat compulsively for

emotional reasons. taking a physical approach to curing it, like the stomach

surgery, doesn't fix it since it is emotional.

I say go for some counseling and find out what it is in your mind/emotions that

causes you to eat compulsively and get it fixed emotionally.

Just my two beans...

Regards,

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>

>

> >Well Precious, if just one heart attack or stroke is prevented by a piece

> >of information on this list, it is well worth being in existence.

> >Rita

>

>

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most effects of caffeine are long term... I.E stomach issues after years of

drinking it/abusively drinking it etc.

Regards,

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>

>

> Good Morning ,

> Do you have any thoughts on tea?

> BTW, I drink the coffee for the caffeine alone and actually do not care

> for the taste at all.

> You sure seem to have bounce to the ounce. Smile.

> Rita

>

>

>

>

>

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most effects of caffeine are long term... I.E stomach issues after years of

drinking it/abusively drinking it etc.

Regards,

Re: caffeine

>

>

> Good Morning ,

> Do you have any thoughts on tea?

> BTW, I drink the coffee for the caffeine alone and actually do not care

> for the taste at all.

> You sure seem to have bounce to the ounce. Smile.

> Rita

>

>

>

>

>

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most effects of caffeine are long term... I.E stomach issues after years of

drinking it/abusively drinking it etc.

Regards,

Re: caffeine

>

>

> Good Morning ,

> Do you have any thoughts on tea?

> BTW, I drink the coffee for the caffeine alone and actually do not care

> for the taste at all.

> You sure seem to have bounce to the ounce. Smile.

> Rita

>

>

>

>

>

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exactly... forgot the other name of those ThingIes*grin*

Regards,

Re: caffeine

>

>

> Lol! Oh my . I use two tea bags per cup! Why do you cut down

> on

> caffeine?

> Rita

>

>

>

>

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exactly... forgot the other name of those ThingIes*grin*

Regards,

Re: caffeine

>

>

> Lol! Oh my . I use two tea bags per cup! Why do you cut down

> on

> caffeine?

> Rita

>

>

>

>

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water with lemon in it and some splenda. a sort of lemonade.

BTW just cut back on caffeine... it isn't bad for you if you drink it with

balance. I.E 1 pop a day and maybe 1 or 2 cups of coffee and the rest of the day

drink water.

Regards,

caffeine

>

>

> >

> >

> > Hi Folks,

> > Well I did it again. Drank too much coffee. How can I

decaffeinate

> > myself?

> > And before you start in on me Harry, I have learned my lesson.

Smile.

> > Rita

> >

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water with lemon in it and some splenda. a sort of lemonade.

BTW just cut back on caffeine... it isn't bad for you if you drink it with

balance. I.E 1 pop a day and maybe 1 or 2 cups of coffee and the rest of the day

drink water.

Regards,

caffeine

>

>

> >

> >

> > Hi Folks,

> > Well I did it again. Drank too much coffee. How can I

decaffeinate

> > myself?

> > And before you start in on me Harry, I have learned my lesson.

Smile.

> > Rita

> >

> >

> >

> >

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counseling man. go to a counselor. eating is so heavily an emotional issue.

folks want to treat it like it is just a physical issue, get a stomach job and

be done with it. Not so. Eating is an emotional part of our makeup. If eating is

unbalanced in our life, there is an emotional reason for it for the most part.

My wife is a licensed counselor and deals with eating disorders all the time.

Folks think an eating disorder is just bulimia or anorexia, not the case.

Compulsive over eating, eating fixations, all are there for an emotional reason.

Regards,

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> >

> >

> > Good Morning ,

> > Do you have any thoughts on tea?

> > BTW, I drink the coffee for the caffeine alone and actually do not care

> > for the taste at all.

> > You sure seem to have bounce to the ounce. Smile.

> > Rita

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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counseling man. go to a counselor. eating is so heavily an emotional issue.

folks want to treat it like it is just a physical issue, get a stomach job and

be done with it. Not so. Eating is an emotional part of our makeup. If eating is

unbalanced in our life, there is an emotional reason for it for the most part.

My wife is a licensed counselor and deals with eating disorders all the time.

Folks think an eating disorder is just bulimia or anorexia, not the case.

Compulsive over eating, eating fixations, all are there for an emotional reason.

Regards,

Re: caffeine

> >

> >

> > Good Morning ,

> > Do you have any thoughts on tea?

> > BTW, I drink the coffee for the caffeine alone and actually do not care

> > for the taste at all.

> > You sure seem to have bounce to the ounce. Smile.

> > Rita

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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I agree with you on this one.

Wish most others would do the same.

--Dar

--Every Saint has a Past,

Every Sinner has a Future

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> >

> >

> > >Well Precious, if just one heart attack or stroke is prevented by a

> piece

> > >of information on this list, it is well worth being in existence.

> > >Rita

> >

> >

> >

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I agree with you on this one.

Wish most others would do the same.

--Dar

--Every Saint has a Past,

Every Sinner has a Future

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> >

> >

> > >Well Precious, if just one heart attack or stroke is prevented by a

> piece

> > >of information on this list, it is well worth being in existence.

> > >Rita

> >

> >

> >

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Absolutely right, .

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counseling man. go to a counselor. eating is so heavily an emotional issue.

folks want to treat it like it is just a physical issue, get a stomach job

and be done with it. Not so. Eating is an emotional part of our makeup. If

eating is unbalanced in our life, there is an emotional reason for it for

the most part.

My wife is a licensed counselor and deals with eating disorders all the

time. Folks think an eating disorder is just bulimia or anorexia, not the

case. Compulsive over eating, eating fixations, all are there for an

emotional reason.

Regards,

Re: caffeine

> >

> >

> > Good Morning ,

> > Do you have any thoughts on tea?

> > BTW, I drink the coffee for the caffeine alone and actually do not

care

> > for the taste at all.

> > You sure seem to have bounce to the ounce. Smile.

> > Rita

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Leave off the Splenda and it will do a better job of quinching your

thirst...

Cy, the Ancient Okie...

Re: caffeine

water with lemon in it and some splenda. a sort of lemonade.

BTW just cut back on caffeine... it isn't bad for you if you drink it

with balance. I.E 1 pop a day and maybe 1 or 2 cups of coffee and the

rest of the day drink water.

Regards,

caffeine

>

>

> >

> >

> > Hi Folks,

> > Well I did it again. Drank too much coffee. How can I

decaffeinate

> > myself?

> > And before you start in on me Harry, I have learned my lesson.

Smile.

> > Rita

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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