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In a message dated 9/19/99 8:29:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

Dillr@... writes:

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Is there any disease anyone can think of besides Biotinadase deficiency that

can cause a child's hair to Barely grow? My three year old daughter has

about as much hair and a 4 month old infant.

Thanks

>>

I think I should mention she is Grossly delayed in all areas.

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, the thinning hair has always been a problem in our family. Shenan

lost about 2/3 of her very very thick wavy hair when she hit her teens.

Everyone kept telling us it was nothing and seemed fine to them, but it was

so sad for her. Even happens to the boys in the family. I guessed it was a

problem with the biotin since that was one of our nutrient blocks according

to the TX test. I did see some hormones had to do with the thinning hair

too. S.

not much Hair

>From: Dillr@...

>

>Is there any disease anyone can think of besides Biotinadase deficiency

that

>can cause a child's hair to Barely grow? My three year old daughter has

>about as much hair and a 4 month old infant.

>

>Thanks

>

>

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never had very much hair, and it is still pretty thin, but I always

chalked it up to inadequate nutrition as a whole . . . it definitely improved

after g-tube placement. His teeth were very slow to erupt as well and his

nails barely grew. (Along with the rest of him . . . FTT!) Getting in

adequate calories made all the difference in the world for us. I can't

remember if your daughter is tube fed or not . . .

Kathy

mom to , nda, and , Complex I and III defects

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never had very much hair, and it is still pretty thin, but I always

chalked it up to inadequate nutrition as a whole . . . it definitely improved

after g-tube placement. His teeth were very slow to erupt as well and his

nails barely grew. (Along with the rest of him . . . FTT!) Getting in

adequate calories made all the difference in the world for us. I can't

remember if your daughter is tube fed or not . . .

Kathy

mom to , nda, and , Complex I and III defects

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never had very much hair, and it is still pretty thin, but I always

chalked it up to inadequate nutrition as a whole . . . it definitely improved

after g-tube placement. His teeth were very slow to erupt as well and his

nails barely grew. (Along with the rest of him . . . FTT!) Getting in

adequate calories made all the difference in the world for us. I can't

remember if your daughter is tube fed or not . . .

Kathy

mom to , nda, and , Complex I and III defects

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What kind of nutrient tests did you have and where did you go to get

them done? I'd like to have a biochemical dietician (if they even exist)

give me some direction with Grant's diet. Thanks - Gail

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>

>

> , the thinning hair has always been a problem in our family. Shenan

> lost about 2/3 of her very very thick wavy hair when she hit her teens.

> Everyone kept telling us it was nothing and seemed fine to them, but it was

> so sad for her. Even happens to the boys in the family. I guessed it was a

> problem with the biotin since that was one of our nutrient blocks according

> to the TX test. I did see some hormones had to do with the thinning hair

> too. S.

>

> not much Hair

>

> >From: Dillr@...

> >

> >Is there any disease anyone can think of besides Biotinadase deficiency

> that

> >can cause a child's hair to Barely grow? My three year old daughter has

> >about as much hair and a 4 month old infant.

> >

> >Thanks

> >

> >

> >>Brought to you by www.imdn.org - an on-line support group for those

> affected by mitochondrial disease.

> >

>

> > Brought to you by www.imdn.org - an on-line support group for those affected

by mitochondrial disease.

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orion was born with tons of hair... when he started getting sick, it all

quickly fell out... could this have something to do with his mito? a lot of

people told me that sometimes babies lose their hair this way, but i always

thought it was strange how it didn't happen until right around the time he

started to show signs of his disease... and he lost all of it within a very

short period of time (all he had left was a little bit of peach fuzz).

julia

orion's mommy

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Why not try a medline search under " alopecia " to see what comes up? I imagine

that any sort of vitamin

deficiency could cause alopecia, but I don't know any specific ones.

Dillr@... wrote:

> From: Dillr@...

>

> Is there any disease anyone can think of besides Biotinadase deficiency that

> can cause a child's hair to Barely grow? My three year old daughter has

> about as much hair and a 4 month old infant.

>

> Thanks

>

>

> > Brought to you by www.imdn.org - an on-line support group for those affected

by mitochondrial disease.

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Why not try a medline search under " alopecia " to see what comes up? I imagine

that any sort of vitamin

deficiency could cause alopecia, but I don't know any specific ones.

Dillr@... wrote:

> From: Dillr@...

>

> Is there any disease anyone can think of besides Biotinadase deficiency that

> can cause a child's hair to Barely grow? My three year old daughter has

> about as much hair and a 4 month old infant.

>

> Thanks

>

>

> > Brought to you by www.imdn.org - an on-line support group for those affected

by mitochondrial disease.

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Why not try a medline search under " alopecia " to see what comes up? I imagine

that any sort of vitamin

deficiency could cause alopecia, but I don't know any specific ones.

Dillr@... wrote:

> From: Dillr@...

>

> Is there any disease anyone can think of besides Biotinadase deficiency that

> can cause a child's hair to Barely grow? My three year old daughter has

> about as much hair and a 4 month old infant.

>

> Thanks

>

>

> > Brought to you by www.imdn.org - an on-line support group for those affected

by mitochondrial disease.

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Our teeth for the most part have been slow erupting and getting the

permanent teeth and in fact Shenan didn't have 2 permanent molars-they just

weren't there. S.

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> -

>

> never had very much hair, and it is still pretty thin, but I always

>chalked it up to inadequate nutrition as a whole . . . it definitely

improved

>after g-tube placement. His teeth were very slow to erupt as well and his

>nails barely grew. (Along with the rest of him . . . FTT!) Getting in

>adequate calories made all the difference in the world for us. I can't

>remember if your daughter is tube fed or not . . .

>

>Kathy

>mom to , nda, and , Complex I and III defects

>

>>Brought to you by www.imdn.org - an on-line support group for those

affected by mitochondrial disease.

>

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In a message dated 9/19/99 9:01:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

joelinda@... writes:

<< e biotin since that was one of our nutrient blocks according

to the TX test. >>

Thanks . What is the TX test?

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Just a quick thought - what meds is she on? When Grant was on Depakote

he lost about half of his hair. It was coming out in handfuls. Perhaps

it is her medication plus the underlying disorder.(His is all back now

that he is no longer on Depakote)

Gail

Steve, & Fitzgerald wrote:

>

>

>

> Why not try a medline search under " alopecia " to see what comes up? I imagine

that any sort of vitamin

> deficiency could cause alopecia, but I don't know any specific ones.

>

> Dillr@... wrote:

>

> > From: Dillr@...

> >

> > Is there any disease anyone can think of besides Biotinadase deficiency that

> > can cause a child's hair to Barely grow? My three year old daughter has

> > about as much hair and a 4 month old infant.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> >

> > > Brought to you by www.imdn.org - an on-line support group for those

affected by mitochondrial disease.

>

> > Brought to you by www.imdn.org - an on-line support group for those affected

by mitochondrial disease.

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In a message dated 9/20/99 11:22:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

houllion@... writes:

<<

Just a quick thought - what meds is she on? When Grant was on Depakote

he lost about half of his hair. It was coming out in handfuls. Perhaps

it is her medication plus the underlying disorder.(His is all back now

that he is no longer on Depakote) >>

Karly was on the depakote for about 5 months in the beginning of the keto

diet. BUT, then she was off all drugs until this past July when we stated to

try the topamax to see if we can get the seizures to go away 100%.

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In a message dated 9/20/99 11:22:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

houllion@... writes:

<<

Just a quick thought - what meds is she on? When Grant was on Depakote

he lost about half of his hair. It was coming out in handfuls. Perhaps

it is her medication plus the underlying disorder.(His is all back now

that he is no longer on Depakote) >>

Karly was on the depakote for about 5 months in the beginning of the keto

diet. BUT, then she was off all drugs until this past July when we stated to

try the topamax to see if we can get the seizures to go away 100%.

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In a message dated 9/20/99 11:22:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

houllion@... writes:

<<

Just a quick thought - what meds is she on? When Grant was on Depakote

he lost about half of his hair. It was coming out in handfuls. Perhaps

it is her medication plus the underlying disorder.(His is all back now

that he is no longer on Depakote) >>

Karly was on the depakote for about 5 months in the beginning of the keto

diet. BUT, then she was off all drugs until this past July when we stated to

try the topamax to see if we can get the seizures to go away 100%.

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In a message dated 9/20/99 12:09:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

joelinda@... writes:

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Our teeth for the most part have been slow erupting and getting the

permanent teeth and in fact Shenan didn't have 2 permanent molars-they just

weren't there. S. >>

Karly is three years old and is just now getting her two year molars. But, I

think they are late erupting because she doesn't really chew and that had

delayed eruption.

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I don't believe that it's normal to lose it ALL. was also born with a full

head of hair. He lost a

little during the first two months (he had a receeding hair line) but certainly

not all of the hair. The

real hair grew in immediately. I think that babies lose their hair in the first

month or two.

Jaz739@... wrote:

> From: Jaz739@...

>

> orion was born with tons of hair... when he started getting sick, it all

> quickly fell out... could this have something to do with his mito? a lot of

> people told me that sometimes babies lose their hair this way, but i always

> thought it was strange how it didn't happen until right around the time he

> started to show signs of his disease... and he lost all of it within a very

> short period of time (all he had left was a little bit of peach fuzz).

> julia

> orion's mommy

>

> > Brought to you by www.imdn.org - an on-line support group for those affected

by mitochondrial disease.

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Our endocrinologist refers to the age when teeth come in/fall out as being

a " poor man's bone age " . My children have delayed bone ages by about 50%,

(example if chron. age is 6 their bones are about age 3) and have been very

late with all their teeth milestones. Anne

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>

> Our teeth for the most part have been slow erupting and getting the

> permanent teeth and in fact Shenan didn't have 2 permanent molars-they

just

> weren't there. S. >>

>

> Karly is three years old and is just now getting her two year molars.

But, I

> think they are late erupting because she doesn't really chew and that had

> delayed eruption.

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**All** my have lost **All** of their hair. They were all born with dark

hair and are all blondes now. I just figured it was something blondes did.

- I think that Orion sounds like he got sick about when most babies

start losing their hair. Some of mine lost it about 6 weeks and Abby, who

had huge amount of dark long hair lost every speck at 4 months.

Anne - mom to

Brittany, 12, Zachary, 7, Abby, 6, and , 28 months

Complex 1 and 4 OxPhos defect

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>

> To: Mitoonelist

> Subject: Re: not much Hair

> Date: Monday, September 20, 1999 2:56 PM

>

>

>

> I don't believe that it's normal to lose it ALL. was also born with

a full head of hair. He lost a

> little during the first two months (he had a receeding hair line) but

certainly not all of the hair. The

> real hair grew in immediately. I think that babies lose their hair in

the first month or two.

>

> Jaz739@... wrote:

>

> > From: Jaz739@...

> >

> > orion was born with tons of hair... when he started getting sick, it

all

> > quickly fell out... could this have something to do with his mito? a

lot of

> > people told me that sometimes babies lose their hair this way, but i

always

> > thought it was strange how it didn't happen until right around the time

he

> > started to show signs of his disease... and he lost all of it within a

very

> > short period of time (all he had left was a little bit of peach fuzz).

> > julia

> > orion's mommy

> >

> > > Brought to you by www.imdn.org - an on-line support group for those

affected by mitochondrial disease.

>

>

> > Brought to you by www.imdn.org - an on-line support group for those

affected by mitochondrial disease.

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**All** my have lost **All** of their hair. They were all born with dark

hair and are all blondes now. I just figured it was something blondes did.

- I think that Orion sounds like he got sick about when most babies

start losing their hair. Some of mine lost it about 6 weeks and Abby, who

had huge amount of dark long hair lost every speck at 4 months.

Anne - mom to

Brittany, 12, Zachary, 7, Abby, 6, and , 28 months

Complex 1 and 4 OxPhos defect

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>

> To: Mitoonelist

> Subject: Re: not much Hair

> Date: Monday, September 20, 1999 2:56 PM

>

>

>

> I don't believe that it's normal to lose it ALL. was also born with

a full head of hair. He lost a

> little during the first two months (he had a receeding hair line) but

certainly not all of the hair. The

> real hair grew in immediately. I think that babies lose their hair in

the first month or two.

>

> Jaz739@... wrote:

>

> > From: Jaz739@...

> >

> > orion was born with tons of hair... when he started getting sick, it

all

> > quickly fell out... could this have something to do with his mito? a

lot of

> > people told me that sometimes babies lose their hair this way, but i

always

> > thought it was strange how it didn't happen until right around the time

he

> > started to show signs of his disease... and he lost all of it within a

very

> > short period of time (all he had left was a little bit of peach fuzz).

> > julia

> > orion's mommy

> >

> > > Brought to you by www.imdn.org - an on-line support group for those

affected by mitochondrial disease.

>

>

> > Brought to you by www.imdn.org - an on-line support group for those

affected by mitochondrial disease.

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, I think it was the disease as my daughter's hair went the same way

within about 6 months til she had lost about 2/3 of it. She continues to

lose but it has somewhat stabilized. I have noticed when things seem to be

working right in my body my hair has body and shines & is darker, otherwise

it is limp and lackluster. It also is very thin. S.

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>

>

>I don't believe that it's normal to lose it ALL. was also born with a

full head of hair. He lost a

>little during the first two months (he had a receeding hair line) but

certainly not all of the hair. The

>real hair grew in immediately. I think that babies lose their hair in the

first month or two.

>

>Jaz739@... wrote:

>

>> From: Jaz739@...

>>

>> orion was born with tons of hair... when he started getting sick, it all

>> quickly fell out... could this have something to do with his mito? a

lot of

>> people told me that sometimes babies lose their hair this way, but i

always

>> thought it was strange how it didn't happen until right around the time

he

>> started to show signs of his disease... and he lost all of it within a

very

>> short period of time (all he had left was a little bit of peach fuzz).

>> julia

>> orion's mommy

>>

>> > Brought to you by www.imdn.org - an on-line support group for those

affected by mitochondrial disease.

>

>

>>Brought to you by www.imdn.org - an on-line support group for those

affected by mitochondrial disease.

>

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, I think it was the disease as my daughter's hair went the same way

within about 6 months til she had lost about 2/3 of it. She continues to

lose but it has somewhat stabilized. I have noticed when things seem to be

working right in my body my hair has body and shines & is darker, otherwise

it is limp and lackluster. It also is very thin. S.

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>

>

>I don't believe that it's normal to lose it ALL. was also born with a

full head of hair. He lost a

>little during the first two months (he had a receeding hair line) but

certainly not all of the hair. The

>real hair grew in immediately. I think that babies lose their hair in the

first month or two.

>

>Jaz739@... wrote:

>

>> From: Jaz739@...

>>

>> orion was born with tons of hair... when he started getting sick, it all

>> quickly fell out... could this have something to do with his mito? a

lot of

>> people told me that sometimes babies lose their hair this way, but i

always

>> thought it was strange how it didn't happen until right around the time

he

>> started to show signs of his disease... and he lost all of it within a

very

>> short period of time (all he had left was a little bit of peach fuzz).

>> julia

>> orion's mommy

>>

>> > Brought to you by www.imdn.org - an on-line support group for those

affected by mitochondrial disease.

>

>

>>Brought to you by www.imdn.org - an on-line support group for those

affected by mitochondrial disease.

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, I think it was the disease as my daughter's hair went the same way

within about 6 months til she had lost about 2/3 of it. She continues to

lose but it has somewhat stabilized. I have noticed when things seem to be

working right in my body my hair has body and shines & is darker, otherwise

it is limp and lackluster. It also is very thin. S.

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>

>

>I don't believe that it's normal to lose it ALL. was also born with a

full head of hair. He lost a

>little during the first two months (he had a receeding hair line) but

certainly not all of the hair. The

>real hair grew in immediately. I think that babies lose their hair in the

first month or two.

>

>Jaz739@... wrote:

>

>> From: Jaz739@...

>>

>> orion was born with tons of hair... when he started getting sick, it all

>> quickly fell out... could this have something to do with his mito? a

lot of

>> people told me that sometimes babies lose their hair this way, but i

always

>> thought it was strange how it didn't happen until right around the time

he

>> started to show signs of his disease... and he lost all of it within a

very

>> short period of time (all he had left was a little bit of peach fuzz).

>> julia

>> orion's mommy

>>

>> > Brought to you by www.imdn.org - an on-line support group for those

affected by mitochondrial disease.

>

>

>>Brought to you by www.imdn.org - an on-line support group for those

affected by mitochondrial disease.

>

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Adelaine was born with lots of dark hair and by 8 weeks was

left with just a fringe around the edges. My nephew, who is

healthy as can be had a head of dark hair and at 3 months it

all fell out and grew back blond. I think babies do a

variety of weird things in the hair department!!

, Mom to Adelaine and Baby ?

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