Matt-those lazy AAers

[Guest guest]

What a CROCK! I am so mad!

MD Matt says:

" I still believe what makes AA click is that it's

members really don't want to put the work in it takes

to maintain relationships and find fulfillment in

life. It's hard to try to answer the following

questions:

What kind of people do I like to be around?

What kind of career suits my goals and personality?

What can I do to help myself feel better in a healthy

way?

Getting to know yourself can be brutally hard. And I

think most AA members would rather avoid that reality.

So, for them, having a sponsor tell them what to do

and a book that tells them how to live is like an

easy out for them. They don't have to do the hard

work. They don't have to make tough decisions.

Someone or something else will do it for them. "

Aaaargh! What a CROCK! How arrogant!

I workde like a DOG the last 5 years I was in

NA(yes, 5 YEARS!Aargh!) This reminds me of when I was

in a long-term " treatment " centre(6-9 months), going

to minimum 3 NA/week (I did 5), plus daily 2 hour

" group " , plus " codependency " group twice a week for

two hours, plus written assignments such as your life

history, Step 1, Step 2,3, Step 4- write down

everything you ever did wrong in your whole life- this

took 1/2- 1 hour a DAY for several MONTHS!) plus daily

chores, plus daily " meditation " ,plus NA service work,

plus a " job " housecleaning the treatment centre- and

they had the GALL to say I wasn't working hard enough

at my " recovery " !Ha!

In NA I became a deadly serious workaholic because

they finally convinced me that if I ever let up on

working hard I would relapse and DIE. ( " Half measures

avail us nothing " , " We keep what we have only with

vigilance " , " Complacency is the enemy " ,etc)

I was chairperson, treasurer, AND GSR of my group

all at once, at the same time I had a sponsee from

hell.

The vast majority of people in NA , even the jerks,

are sincerely trying to better themselves/ their lives

and do work at it. The sad thing is that the harder

you work at the steps the LESS you will succeed at

being happy, successful, etc.

AA/NAers don't have to make tough decisions?

NONSENSE. I've seen single mothers turn their kids

over to Children's Aid so they could focus on

their " recovery " , a guy turn himself in to prison time

as part of his Step 9, and countless people give up

their friends and family. Furthermore, EVERY decision

is a tough on when the outcome supposedly is " God's

will- you live " or " not God's will- you die " .

Getting to know yourself can be brutally hard? I

doubt it. Your 3 questions are good ones, but a hell

of a lot easier than the MOUNDS of Painful crap I have

seen NA members go through. Besides, a lot of AA and

NAers actually HAVE spent quite a bit of time

pondering those questions you asked. Your questions

are not " brutally hard " . Brutally hard is the woman

who switched from AA to NA because a man at AA had

raped her. Brutally hard is the woman who had to face

the fact that when she was high she would chase after

her kid with a whip in her hand. Brutally hard is

coming down sideways from heroine. Brutally hard is

finding out you now have aids because of intravenous

drug use.Etc.

What makes AA click is that people want support for

getting sober and they get tricked by mind control

techniques into believing 12 step crap. It is AA that

tells them they can't really help themselves.

Don't forget that AA is run almost entirely by it's

members- if they were really as lazy as you say, there

would be no AA.

And if someone from a screwed up family wants to

read books about what it's like to be healthy, so

what? More power to 'em. As if you have never read a

self-help book.

Give me a break.

Kim.

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