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Not only did I see this story, but I sprang up in bed because the doctor in

the story was my former gyn, Dr. Ernst Bartsich.

I was his patient for 10 years and left him because I changed jobs and

insurance. He was a GREAT doctor. I had thought about seeing him since my

fibroid diagnosis, but I have been in " watch and wait " mode mostly.

The story was very interesting, and I followed up by going to the doc's

website (mentioned in the piece) at www.fibroid-choice.com

The website describes the advances he has made with the myomectomy

procedure, namely using this " bloodless " ultrasound scalpel plus cell saver,

resulting in a much less bloody procedure.

I must say that I would trust this man with my life - and my fibroids. He

is caring, conservative, and a real Doctor - not a business.

Elise Levine

> Anyone in NY see this news story? Sounds like it might have been a good

> one.

>

> FOX 5 NY -- FOX 5 10 O Clock News With Roland, nna o, Nick

> and Curt Menefee

>

> WNYW 3/9/01 - 10:21 PM... before finding out she had three fibroid

> tumors and her only option for treatment was a full hysterectomy.

>

> They said if you have a hysterectomy, we can rectify the problem but we

> don't have any other alternatives.

>

> Fibroids are non-cancerous tumors that form in or around the uterus.

> Doctors still don't know what causes them. Fibroids can get pretty big.

> Felicia's largest one was the size of a 3-month-old fetus. But she was

> only 36 years old and really wanted to have children. A magazine article

> convinced her to try a new doctor and new procedure. The doctor used a

> machine that's new to fibroid surgery called a harmonic scalpel.

>

> Fibroids can bleed excessively. However, with the harmonic scalpel,

> that's an ultrasound device, the bleeding is minimized. It looks like a

> cut, but it's an ultrasound device that cuts the tissue.

>

> Half of all African-American women in this country are diagnosed with

> fibroids and they have a higher hysterectomy rate because they often

> don't get medical care until it's too late....

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Not only did I see this story, but I sprang up in bed because the doctor in

the story was my former gyn, Dr. Ernst Bartsich.

I was his patient for 10 years and left him because I changed jobs and

insurance. He was a GREAT doctor. I had thought about seeing him since my

fibroid diagnosis, but I have been in " watch and wait " mode mostly.

The story was very interesting, and I followed up by going to the doc's

website (mentioned in the piece) at www.fibroid-choice.com

The website describes the advances he has made with the myomectomy

procedure, namely using this " bloodless " ultrasound scalpel plus cell saver,

resulting in a much less bloody procedure.

I must say that I would trust this man with my life - and my fibroids. He

is caring, conservative, and a real Doctor - not a business.

Elise Levine

> Anyone in NY see this news story? Sounds like it might have been a good

> one.

>

> FOX 5 NY -- FOX 5 10 O Clock News With Roland, nna o, Nick

> and Curt Menefee

>

> WNYW 3/9/01 - 10:21 PM... before finding out she had three fibroid

> tumors and her only option for treatment was a full hysterectomy.

>

> They said if you have a hysterectomy, we can rectify the problem but we

> don't have any other alternatives.

>

> Fibroids are non-cancerous tumors that form in or around the uterus.

> Doctors still don't know what causes them. Fibroids can get pretty big.

> Felicia's largest one was the size of a 3-month-old fetus. But she was

> only 36 years old and really wanted to have children. A magazine article

> convinced her to try a new doctor and new procedure. The doctor used a

> machine that's new to fibroid surgery called a harmonic scalpel.

>

> Fibroids can bleed excessively. However, with the harmonic scalpel,

> that's an ultrasound device, the bleeding is minimized. It looks like a

> cut, but it's an ultrasound device that cuts the tissue.

>

> Half of all African-American women in this country are diagnosed with

> fibroids and they have a higher hysterectomy rate because they often

> don't get medical care until it's too late....

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Not only did I see this story, but I sprang up in bed because the doctor in

the story was my former gyn, Dr. Ernst Bartsich.

I was his patient for 10 years and left him because I changed jobs and

insurance. He was a GREAT doctor. I had thought about seeing him since my

fibroid diagnosis, but I have been in " watch and wait " mode mostly.

The story was very interesting, and I followed up by going to the doc's

website (mentioned in the piece) at www.fibroid-choice.com

The website describes the advances he has made with the myomectomy

procedure, namely using this " bloodless " ultrasound scalpel plus cell saver,

resulting in a much less bloody procedure.

I must say that I would trust this man with my life - and my fibroids. He

is caring, conservative, and a real Doctor - not a business.

Elise Levine

> Anyone in NY see this news story? Sounds like it might have been a good

> one.

>

> FOX 5 NY -- FOX 5 10 O Clock News With Roland, nna o, Nick

> and Curt Menefee

>

> WNYW 3/9/01 - 10:21 PM... before finding out she had three fibroid

> tumors and her only option for treatment was a full hysterectomy.

>

> They said if you have a hysterectomy, we can rectify the problem but we

> don't have any other alternatives.

>

> Fibroids are non-cancerous tumors that form in or around the uterus.

> Doctors still don't know what causes them. Fibroids can get pretty big.

> Felicia's largest one was the size of a 3-month-old fetus. But she was

> only 36 years old and really wanted to have children. A magazine article

> convinced her to try a new doctor and new procedure. The doctor used a

> machine that's new to fibroid surgery called a harmonic scalpel.

>

> Fibroids can bleed excessively. However, with the harmonic scalpel,

> that's an ultrasound device, the bleeding is minimized. It looks like a

> cut, but it's an ultrasound device that cuts the tissue.

>

> Half of all African-American women in this country are diagnosed with

> fibroids and they have a higher hysterectomy rate because they often

> don't get medical care until it's too late....

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Carla wrote :

" How many does the MINORITY number of 30% of the 10,500+ UAE patients thus

far who may have experienced a decrease in strength of orgasms represent? "

I'm a bit confused, Carla. I think the above sentence is unclear. Surely you

don't mean that any surveys have shown that 30% of women have experienced a

decrease in strength of orgasms after UAE. I think you're saying, " what

if...? "

Personally, I doubt very much that the percentage is anywhere as high as 30% as

I think we would hear more complaints if the percentage was that high. I also

suspect that when surveys are made, the people with complaints ARE likely to

respond to questionaires - though I might be wrong about that. I do agree that

even if the minority is small, the issue should be taken seriously. Perhaps

researchers can identify what causes the adverse results, whether anything can

be done to anticipate and/or prevent occurence or to improve the situation if a

woman does find her sexual response is adversely affected by UAE. And the

doctors should publicly admit that this is something that might happen, even if

it is very rare.

I also feel that way about the very small percentage of women who stop

menstruating after UAE. Even though they are a small percentage, the matter

should be investigated; it isn't always known what causes the amenorrhea.

Sexual response is more difficult to study as measurement is subjective.

UAE has so far had a negative impact on my sexuality, but this is because I have

had lot of abdominal discomfort ever since my UAE 7 weeks ago. I hope that I

will feel fine in the long run. I mention this to point out that any sexual

problems after hysterectomy, UAE, etc may vary in nature and cause. And

generally it can be very hard to answer questionaires as the questions and the

choices of responses often don't correspond to what one needs to say!

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Carla wrote :

" How many does the MINORITY number of 30% of the 10,500+ UAE patients thus

far who may have experienced a decrease in strength of orgasms represent? "

I'm a bit confused, Carla. I think the above sentence is unclear. Surely you

don't mean that any surveys have shown that 30% of women have experienced a

decrease in strength of orgasms after UAE. I think you're saying, " what

if...? "

Personally, I doubt very much that the percentage is anywhere as high as 30% as

I think we would hear more complaints if the percentage was that high. I also

suspect that when surveys are made, the people with complaints ARE likely to

respond to questionaires - though I might be wrong about that. I do agree that

even if the minority is small, the issue should be taken seriously. Perhaps

researchers can identify what causes the adverse results, whether anything can

be done to anticipate and/or prevent occurence or to improve the situation if a

woman does find her sexual response is adversely affected by UAE. And the

doctors should publicly admit that this is something that might happen, even if

it is very rare.

I also feel that way about the very small percentage of women who stop

menstruating after UAE. Even though they are a small percentage, the matter

should be investigated; it isn't always known what causes the amenorrhea.

Sexual response is more difficult to study as measurement is subjective.

UAE has so far had a negative impact on my sexuality, but this is because I have

had lot of abdominal discomfort ever since my UAE 7 weeks ago. I hope that I

will feel fine in the long run. I mention this to point out that any sexual

problems after hysterectomy, UAE, etc may vary in nature and cause. And

generally it can be very hard to answer questionaires as the questions and the

choices of responses often don't correspond to what one needs to say!

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I didn't see the story on the news about Dr. Ernst Bartsich. But I

did see an article about him on the Cornell website:

" Unnecessary Hysterectomies: Some Women, and Some Doctors, Have Not

Gotten the Message "

http://www.nyp.org/news/june23_hyster.html

I also saw his book at the bookstore.

The gyn I saw last year was a student of Dr. Bartsich. All she told

me about myomectomy is that it is bloody. She never offered it as a

good choice for me. Since her husband the radiologist rejected me

for UAE, she only offer a hysterectomy for me. Here is article about

her husband: http://www.med.cornell.edu/press/oct_18_aspire.html .

Or she said I can go to someone else for the UAE. She also said I

can go to other doctors for the hysterectomy including Dr. Bartsich.

But she thinks she is better than Dr. Bartsich because she has more

practice. She is at the hospital every week either performing

surgery or supervising the residents in surgery. She said that older

doctors perform hysterectomy maybe twice a year or something like

that. She told me that Dr. Bartsich is more expensive and he does

not take health insurance. She never told me that I can go to Dr.

Bartsich for a myomectomy. I had the myomectomy with Dr. West which

I didn't tell her about.

I was a victim of " watch and wait " with another gyn. I think if I

didn't " watch and wait " , I could have had an UAE. Some doctors

use " watch and wait " to cultivate future patients for hysterectomies.

Donna Jung, 46, New York Metro

" Elise Levine " wrote:

> Not only did I see this story, but I sprang up in bed because

> the doctor in the story was my former gyn, Dr. Ernst Bartsich.

>

> I was his patient for 10 years and left him because I changed

> jobs and insurance. He was a GREAT doctor. I had thought about

> seeing him since my fibroid diagnosis, but I have been in

> " watch and wait " mode mostly.

>

> The story was very interesting, and I followed up by going to

> the doc's website (mentioned in the piece) at

> www.fibroid-choice.com

>

> The website describes the advances he has made with the myomectomy

> procedure, namely using this " bloodless " ultrasound scalpel plus

> cell saver, resulting in a much less bloody procedure.

>

> I must say that I would trust this man with my life - and my

> fibroids. He is caring, conservative, and a real Doctor -

> not a business.

>

> Elise Levine

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I didn't see the story on the news about Dr. Ernst Bartsich. But I

did see an article about him on the Cornell website:

" Unnecessary Hysterectomies: Some Women, and Some Doctors, Have Not

Gotten the Message "

http://www.nyp.org/news/june23_hyster.html

I also saw his book at the bookstore.

The gyn I saw last year was a student of Dr. Bartsich. All she told

me about myomectomy is that it is bloody. She never offered it as a

good choice for me. Since her husband the radiologist rejected me

for UAE, she only offer a hysterectomy for me. Here is article about

her husband: http://www.med.cornell.edu/press/oct_18_aspire.html .

Or she said I can go to someone else for the UAE. She also said I

can go to other doctors for the hysterectomy including Dr. Bartsich.

But she thinks she is better than Dr. Bartsich because she has more

practice. She is at the hospital every week either performing

surgery or supervising the residents in surgery. She said that older

doctors perform hysterectomy maybe twice a year or something like

that. She told me that Dr. Bartsich is more expensive and he does

not take health insurance. She never told me that I can go to Dr.

Bartsich for a myomectomy. I had the myomectomy with Dr. West which

I didn't tell her about.

I was a victim of " watch and wait " with another gyn. I think if I

didn't " watch and wait " , I could have had an UAE. Some doctors

use " watch and wait " to cultivate future patients for hysterectomies.

Donna Jung, 46, New York Metro

" Elise Levine " wrote:

> Not only did I see this story, but I sprang up in bed because

> the doctor in the story was my former gyn, Dr. Ernst Bartsich.

>

> I was his patient for 10 years and left him because I changed

> jobs and insurance. He was a GREAT doctor. I had thought about

> seeing him since my fibroid diagnosis, but I have been in

> " watch and wait " mode mostly.

>

> The story was very interesting, and I followed up by going to

> the doc's website (mentioned in the piece) at

> www.fibroid-choice.com

>

> The website describes the advances he has made with the myomectomy

> procedure, namely using this " bloodless " ultrasound scalpel plus

> cell saver, resulting in a much less bloody procedure.

>

> I must say that I would trust this man with my life - and my

> fibroids. He is caring, conservative, and a real Doctor -

> not a business.

>

> Elise Levine

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I didn't see the story on the news about Dr. Ernst Bartsich. But I

did see an article about him on the Cornell website:

" Unnecessary Hysterectomies: Some Women, and Some Doctors, Have Not

Gotten the Message "

http://www.nyp.org/news/june23_hyster.html

I also saw his book at the bookstore.

The gyn I saw last year was a student of Dr. Bartsich. All she told

me about myomectomy is that it is bloody. She never offered it as a

good choice for me. Since her husband the radiologist rejected me

for UAE, she only offer a hysterectomy for me. Here is article about

her husband: http://www.med.cornell.edu/press/oct_18_aspire.html .

Or she said I can go to someone else for the UAE. She also said I

can go to other doctors for the hysterectomy including Dr. Bartsich.

But she thinks she is better than Dr. Bartsich because she has more

practice. She is at the hospital every week either performing

surgery or supervising the residents in surgery. She said that older

doctors perform hysterectomy maybe twice a year or something like

that. She told me that Dr. Bartsich is more expensive and he does

not take health insurance. She never told me that I can go to Dr.

Bartsich for a myomectomy. I had the myomectomy with Dr. West which

I didn't tell her about.

I was a victim of " watch and wait " with another gyn. I think if I

didn't " watch and wait " , I could have had an UAE. Some doctors

use " watch and wait " to cultivate future patients for hysterectomies.

Donna Jung, 46, New York Metro

" Elise Levine " wrote:

> Not only did I see this story, but I sprang up in bed because

> the doctor in the story was my former gyn, Dr. Ernst Bartsich.

>

> I was his patient for 10 years and left him because I changed

> jobs and insurance. He was a GREAT doctor. I had thought about

> seeing him since my fibroid diagnosis, but I have been in

> " watch and wait " mode mostly.

>

> The story was very interesting, and I followed up by going to

> the doc's website (mentioned in the piece) at

> www.fibroid-choice.com

>

> The website describes the advances he has made with the myomectomy

> procedure, namely using this " bloodless " ultrasound scalpel plus

> cell saver, resulting in a much less bloody procedure.

>

> I must say that I would trust this man with my life - and my

> fibroids. He is caring, conservative, and a real Doctor -

> not a business.

>

> Elise Levine

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