Guest guest Posted May 26, 2000 Report Share Posted May 26, 2000 Hello everyone, I just wanted to comment on the posts regarding dizziness in visually stimulating environments. In addition to being a fellow chiarian, I am also a physical therapist who specializes in the treatment of vestibular and balance disorders. When someone has vestibular dysfunction (which can be from numerous different causes), the brain often compensates by relying more on vision for balance or body orientation in space (e.g. in relation to gravity, etc..). The brain uses primarily three different senses for balance--vestibular, vision and somatosensation (touch/pressure and position-sense). The vestibular information under normal circumstances is unaffected by changes in the environment, so the brain generally places greatest value on vestibular info in sensory conflict situations. Visually stimulating environments make it harder for the brain to use visual info for balance, and therefore the brain looks to the vestibular system which, if dysfunctional, cannot resolve the conflict.. so we feel dizzy or out of balance. If you these symptoms of imbalance or dizziness fluctuate with you other chiari symptoms then you may get some relief with decompression or any other methods that alleviate your chiari symptoms. However, if these symptoms are fairly constant and/or have persisted despite treatment of your chiari, then you may benefit from vestibular therapy. If you want to try vestibular therapy, make sure you find a physical or occupational therapist that has special training in this area. The Vestibula Disorders Association can likely help you find a vestibular therapist in your area. I think this is their website if not email me and I will look it up: www.teleport.com/~veda Also, some doctors have found that people with sensory integration problems like this have benefited from very, very small doses of Valium. I would be happy to answer any questions. I personally have had a vestibular disorder since age 3. The doctors have always been very puzzled. I have been given many different possible diagnoses over the years, including Meneires/hydrops, perilymph fistula, labyrinthitis, migraine, etc... I now believe that it has been due to the chiari all along. I was just recently diagnosed and have not yet had decompression. I hope I did not ramble too much--it has been a dizzy week. Hope you all have a great day! Jane (Oregon) > >To: CHIARI <chiariegroups> >Subject: Dizziness from visual stimualtion? >Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 07:51:02 -0400 > >Yesterday I was at the store. I was looking at a display of items that >was in the middle of the aisle on a metal shelf. The clerk was working >on the other side and what ever she was doing caused the shelf to shake >slightly. I was looking at something and suddenly my vision got foggy >and I started to get that seasickness feeling. >Does anyone else get sick from visual things? > > > >Help section: /help/ > >NOTE: NCC refers to posts with No Chiari Content > >Unsubscribe Yourself: chiari-unsubscribeegroups > >WACMA Home: www.pressenter.com/~wacma > >WACMA List: www.eGroups.com/group/chiari > > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2000 Report Share Posted May 26, 2000 Hello everyone, I just wanted to comment on the posts regarding dizziness in visually stimulating environments. In addition to being a fellow chiarian, I am also a physical therapist who specializes in the treatment of vestibular and balance disorders. When someone has vestibular dysfunction (which can be from numerous different causes), the brain often compensates by relying more on vision for balance or body orientation in space (e.g. in relation to gravity, etc..). The brain uses primarily three different senses for balance--vestibular, vision and somatosensation (touch/pressure and position-sense). The vestibular information under normal circumstances is unaffected by changes in the environment, so the brain generally places greatest value on vestibular info in sensory conflict situations. Visually stimulating environments make it harder for the brain to use visual info for balance, and therefore the brain looks to the vestibular system which, if dysfunctional, cannot resolve the conflict.. so we feel dizzy or out of balance. If you these symptoms of imbalance or dizziness fluctuate with you other chiari symptoms then you may get some relief with decompression or any other methods that alleviate your chiari symptoms. However, if these symptoms are fairly constant and/or have persisted despite treatment of your chiari, then you may benefit from vestibular therapy. If you want to try vestibular therapy, make sure you find a physical or occupational therapist that has special training in this area. The Vestibula Disorders Association can likely help you find a vestibular therapist in your area. I think this is their website if not email me and I will look it up: www.teleport.com/~veda Also, some doctors have found that people with sensory integration problems like this have benefited from very, very small doses of Valium. I would be happy to answer any questions. I personally have had a vestibular disorder since age 3. The doctors have always been very puzzled. I have been given many different possible diagnoses over the years, including Meneires/hydrops, perilymph fistula, labyrinthitis, migraine, etc... I now believe that it has been due to the chiari all along. I was just recently diagnosed and have not yet had decompression. I hope I did not ramble too much--it has been a dizzy week. Hope you all have a great day! Jane (Oregon) > >To: CHIARI <chiariegroups> >Subject: Dizziness from visual stimualtion? >Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 07:51:02 -0400 > >Yesterday I was at the store. I was looking at a display of items that >was in the middle of the aisle on a metal shelf. The clerk was working >on the other side and what ever she was doing caused the shelf to shake >slightly. I was looking at something and suddenly my vision got foggy >and I started to get that seasickness feeling. >Does anyone else get sick from visual things? > > > >Help section: /help/ > >NOTE: NCC refers to posts with No Chiari Content > >Unsubscribe Yourself: chiari-unsubscribeegroups > >WACMA Home: www.pressenter.com/~wacma > >WACMA List: www.eGroups.com/group/chiari > > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2000 Report Share Posted May 26, 2000 Hi, I was ironing yesterday a pair of my sons pinstriped shorts, and had to look away. It made me soooo dizzy. I had to just do the redneck ironing job on them and put them away! (I told my son not to wear them in public--ok so I'm a neet freak) Love to you, G in Idaho Dizziness from visual stimualtion? > Yesterday I was at the store. I was looking at a display of items that > was in the middle of the aisle on a metal shelf. The clerk was working > on the other side and what ever she was doing caused the shelf to shake > slightly. I was looking at something and suddenly my vision got foggy > and I started to get that seasickness feeling. > Does anyone else get sick from visual things? > > > > Help section: /help/ > > NOTE: NCC refers to posts with No Chiari Content > > Unsubscribe Yourself: chiari-unsubscribeegroups > > WACMA Home: www.pressenter.com/~wacma > > WACMA List: www.eGroups.com/group/chiari > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2000 Report Share Posted May 26, 2000 Hi, I forgot to mention this in my earlier post....... We went to the Dinosaur movie last weekend and when they use the flying visual effect I about lost my cookies. Thank goodness I was sitting down or I would of probably fell down. It's funny how things like that never use to cause such havoc.........maybe I SHOULDN'T go on a roller coaster . heehee Love, G in Idaho Dizziness from visual stimualtion? > Yesterday I was at the store. I was looking at a display of items that > was in the middle of the aisle on a metal shelf. The clerk was working > on the other side and what ever she was doing caused the shelf to shake > slightly. I was looking at something and suddenly my vision got foggy > and I started to get that seasickness feeling. > Does anyone else get sick from visual things? > > > > Help section: /help/ > > NOTE: NCC refers to posts with No Chiari Content > > Unsubscribe Yourself: chiari-unsubscribeegroups > > WACMA Home: www.pressenter.com/~wacma > > WACMA List: www.eGroups.com/group/chiari > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2000 Report Share Posted May 26, 2000 Hi, I forgot to mention this in my earlier post....... We went to the Dinosaur movie last weekend and when they use the flying visual effect I about lost my cookies. Thank goodness I was sitting down or I would of probably fell down. It's funny how things like that never use to cause such havoc.........maybe I SHOULDN'T go on a roller coaster . heehee Love, G in Idaho Dizziness from visual stimualtion? > Yesterday I was at the store. I was looking at a display of items that > was in the middle of the aisle on a metal shelf. The clerk was working > on the other side and what ever she was doing caused the shelf to shake > slightly. I was looking at something and suddenly my vision got foggy > and I started to get that seasickness feeling. > Does anyone else get sick from visual things? > > > > Help section: /help/ > > NOTE: NCC refers to posts with No Chiari Content > > Unsubscribe Yourself: chiari-unsubscribeegroups > > WACMA Home: www.pressenter.com/~wacma > > WACMA List: www.eGroups.com/group/chiari > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2000 Report Share Posted May 26, 2000 Hi, I can't even watch a roller coaster on T.V. I get real dizzy and I went out and bought the new Disney video of Tarzan and watching him skate through the trees make me feel strange. Tish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 Jane! Way to go! You described the vestibular dysfunction and resulting dizziness beautifully. I wonder if it would be helpful to add this to our WACMA website? Just my 2 cents. Vikki from PA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 Jane! Way to go! You described the vestibular dysfunction and resulting dizziness beautifully. I wonder if it would be helpful to add this to our WACMA website? Just my 2 cents. Vikki from PA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 Jane! Way to go! You described the vestibular dysfunction and resulting dizziness beautifully. I wonder if it would be helpful to add this to our WACMA website? Just my 2 cents. Vikki from PA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 one thing that may help greatly , if your experiencing vestibular impacts that are troublesome .....is physical therapy with someone trained to access vestibular disfunction . i went to such therapy , learned some exercises that are simple , and i need to do every couple days ....they greatly enhanse my brains ability to cope with this stuff ....practice does help ! i use both a swiss ball , for ballance and movement with mulitple layers of visual debth using a miror ....and also do simple movement stuff , using a window with a sicky pasted on the window , and a view out it ....to challeng my brain with 3/d debth and movement ....if i skip em a few days ....the dizzys get worse when i do see moving 3d stuff ! worth trying to find someone , who can teach you tricks to practice ..... sarah in paradise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 one thing that may help greatly , if your experiencing vestibular impacts that are troublesome .....is physical therapy with someone trained to access vestibular disfunction . i went to such therapy , learned some exercises that are simple , and i need to do every couple days ....they greatly enhanse my brains ability to cope with this stuff ....practice does help ! i use both a swiss ball , for ballance and movement with mulitple layers of visual debth using a miror ....and also do simple movement stuff , using a window with a sicky pasted on the window , and a view out it ....to challeng my brain with 3/d debth and movement ....if i skip em a few days ....the dizzys get worse when i do see moving 3d stuff ! worth trying to find someone , who can teach you tricks to practice ..... sarah in paradise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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