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I hope you called the local paper and spoke to the writer that wrote that,

and correct them. AND, offer something else from a " real " dietitian.

Jan Patenaude

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I have to respectfully disagree with you Merav.

Bob Green is an exercise physiologist, and telling people to " eat healthy "

is within the scope of his degree as far as I know. (And if an RD gets a lot of

money to be is ghost writer, that's entirely within the reasonable scope of

business practice - happens all the time - and more power to the RD that got

hired for THAT job)

And, it wasn't his " professional organization " that got him famous - it was

his abilities and networking and the people he knew, his TV presence, etc. . .

including Oprah - (I know a local guy and OLD friend of my husbands that

also worked with her in Telluride, but he just doesn't have the professional

savvy/presence, so Oprah stopped hiring him. His doctorate degree wasn't enough.

. .)

Joy Bauer, RD is on the View, the national news channel this am, and more.

It's not ADA that's gotten her where she's at, it's her own education and hard

work and personal connections.

Any one of us could be where Bob Greene is now, if we just worked our

connections right and maybe even were in the right place at the right time.

So, no

whining! ;-)

(I know a friend/RD that's a " head-hunter " of health professionals including

RDs. She has a sign in her office that says " No whining " in the circle with

a slash. She said if an RD is applying for a position and starts " whining "

at ALL, she wouldn't even consider referring that RD, and she also commented

that of all the health professions she worked with, RDs were by far the worst

whiners!)

He's just a clear example of who our competition is - and more power to him!

Jan Patenaude, RD,CLT

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Right here and then, he got the sealing approval of both Oprah and CNN/Larry

King....both " known " for the authority of " scientific based " porfessional

certification.Right here and then, he got the sealing approval of both Oprah and

CNN/Larry King....both " knownRight here and then, he got the sealing approva

Bob Greene got a A NATIONAL approval/certificatBob Greene got a A NATIONAL

approval/certificat<WBR>ion b/c the public doesn't know this is not the right

path, the right reference on nutrition but since no one from ADA steps for th

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN

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_newlife4health@newlife4hea_ (mailto:newlife4health@...) : Tue, 13 Jan

2009 13:38:14 -0500Subject: Re: RE: [NEdpg] Bob Greene, dietitian?

Also, in answer to Oprah's question " What is metabolic syndrome? " he stated

last night on their webcast that " Metabolic syndrome is a way that we put on

weight, puts you at risk for pre-diabetes and diabetes. " Correct me if I am

wrong (please!), but last time I checked " metabolic syndrome " IS

pre-diabetes!Also, in answer to Oprah's question " What is metabolic syndrome? "

he stated

last night on their webcast that " Metabolic syndrome is a way that we put on

weight, puts you at risk for pre-dAlso, in answer to Oprah's question " What is

metabolic syndrome? " he stated last night on their webcast that " Metabolic

syndrome is a way that we put on weight, puts you at risk for pre-diabetes and

diabetes. " Correct me if I am wrong (please!), but last time I checked

" metabolic syndrome " IS pre-diabetes!<WBR>!! Is not metabolic syndrome just one

of

many alias names for it " pre-diabetes " (i.e., insulin resistance,

hyperinsulinemia, Syndrome X, metabolic syndrome).another name for

pre-diabetes!<WBR>!!!

Not only is Bob Greene not Also, in ansAlso, _newlife4health@newlife_

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called the local paper and spoke to the writer that wrote that, and correct

them.

AND, offer something else from a " real " dietitian.Jan PatenaudeIn a message

dated 1/13/2009 8:58:15 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, _klinkrb@..._

(mailto:klinkrb@...) writes:Obviously our professional name is

starting to mean something to themarketers Kathy Bingham MBA, MS, RD, LDN

Nutrition TherapistHelping you make the most out of Life ©Everything can be

taken

away save one thing: AttitudeDirector of Clinical Nutrition ServicesGibson

Area Hospital and Health Services1120 N Melvin StreetGibson City, IL 60936Work

Phone: Fax: CONFIDE writes:Obviously our

professional name is starting to mean something to themarketers Kathy Bingham

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RD, LDN Nutrition writes:Obviously our professional name is starting to mean

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local Cincinnati Enquirer. He is appearingat our local Kroger Marketplace

this Thursday signing copies of hislatest books: Bob Greene's Total body, Best

Life Diet Daily Journal,Cookbook, etc. It states:Bob Greene, Oprah's personal

dietician/fitness consultant, will be atthe Hebron Kroger Marketplace from 2

- 4 pm signing copies of his latestbooks. I love that now he is a

" dietician " . I thought this was funny b/c weknow he is not. :-) Betsy Oriolo,

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Also, in answer to Oprah's question " What is metabolic syndrome? " he stated

last night on their webcast that " Metabolic syndrome is a way that we put on

weight, puts you at risk for pre-diabetes and diabetes. " Correct me if I am

wrong (please!), but last time I checked " metabolic syndrome " IS pre-diabetes!!!

Is not metabolic syndrome just one of many alias names for it " pre-diabetes "

(i.e., insulin resistance, hyperinsulinemia, Syndrome X, metabolic

syndrome).another name for pre-diabetes!!!! Not only is Bob Greene not a

dietitian, he does not know what he is talking about! Last week I taped him on

Larry King and and while he has some good advice it is very limiited, and it is

what he does NOT know in his limited understanding that is dangerous, as usual.

I have not yet listened to the whole webcast, which I intend to do ASAP, and

then communicate this to Oprah. Anyone have any suggestions how I can contact

her personally?

Diane Preves, M.S., R.D.

N.E.W. LIFE (Nutrition, Exercise, Wellness for LIFE)

www.newlifeforhealth.com

e-mail: newlife4health@...

Re: RE: [NEdpg] Bob Greene, dietitian?

I hope you called the local paper and spoke to the writer that wrote that,

and correct them. AND, offer something else from a " real " dietitian.

Jan Patenaude

In a message dated 1/13/2009 8:58:15 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,

klinkrb@... writes:

Obviously our professional name is starting to mean something to the

marketers

Kathy Bingham MBA, MS, RD, LDN

Nutrition Therapist

Helping you make the most out of Life ©

Everything can be taken away save one thing: Attitude

Director of Clinical Nutrition Services

Gibson Area Hospital and Health Services

1120 N Melvin Street

Gibson City, IL 60936

Work Phone:

Fax:

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Maybe, but they abuse it on our backs and ADA is as always.... silent!

Giving permission to everyone to become a dietitian overnight!

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN

To: dietitian2003@...; NEdpg ; rd-usa@...:

klinkrb@...: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:45:42 -0600Subject: RE:

[NEdpg] Bob Greene, dietitian?

Obviously our professional name is starting to mean something to themarketers

Kathy Bingham MBA, MS, RD, LDN Nutrition TherapistHelping you make the most out

of Life ©Everything can be taken away save one thing: AttitudeDirector of

Clinical Nutrition ServicesGibson Area Hospital and Health Services1120 N Melvin

StreetGibson City, IL 60936Work Phone: Fax:

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Right here and then, he got the sealing approval of both Oprah and CNN/Larry

King....both " known " for the authority of " scientific based " porfessional

certification..... and as I said before - where is ADA?! Sleepling in Chicago?

(yep - politically incoorect....sue me...LOL) Oprah is also in Chicago....

Bob Greene got a A NATIONAL approval/certification b/c the public doesn't know

this is not the right path, the right reference on nutrition but since no one

from ADA steps for the microphone the public will listen to those who do!

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN

To: rd-usa@...: newlife4health@...: Tue, 13 Jan 2009

13:38:14 -0500Subject: Re: RE: [NEdpg] Bob Greene, dietitian?

Also, in answer to Oprah's question " What is metabolic syndrome? " he stated last

night on their webcast that " Metabolic syndrome is a way that we put on weight,

puts you at risk for pre-diabetes and diabetes. " Correct me if I am wrong

(please!), but last time I checked " metabolic syndrome " IS pre-diabetes!!! Is

not metabolic syndrome just one of many alias names for it " pre-diabetes " (i.e.,

insulin resistance, hyperinsulinemia, Syndrome X, metabolic syndrome).another

name for pre-diabetes!!!! Not only is Bob Greene not a dietitian, he does not

know what he is talking about! Last week I taped him on Larry King and and while

he has some good advice it is very limiited, and it is what he does NOT know in

his limited understanding that is dangerous, as usual.I have not yet listened to

the whole webcast, which I intend to do ASAP, and then communicate this to

Oprah. Anyone have any suggestions how I can contact her personally?Diane

Preves, M.S., R.D.N.E.W. LIFE (Nutrition, Exercise, Wellness for

LIFE)www.newlifeforhealth.come-mail: newlife4health@...(631)

581-5750 Re:

RE: [NEdpg] Bob Greene, dietitian?I hope you called the local paper and

spoke to the writer that wrote that, and correct them. AND, offer something else

from a " real " dietitian.Jan PatenaudeIn a message dated 1/13/2009 8:58:15 A.M.

Mountain Standard Time, klinkrb@... writes:Obviously our professional

name is starting to mean something to themarketers Kathy Bingham MBA, MS, RD,

LDN Nutrition TherapistHelping you make the most out of Life ©Everything can

be taken away save one thing: AttitudeDirector of Clinical Nutrition

ServicesGibson Area Hospital and Health Services1120 N Melvin StreetGibson City,

IL 60936Work Phone: Fax:

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Sorry, a, I strongly disagree. It shows that everyone can become a

" dietitian " / " nutritionist " and thats even more confusing to the public, who

get wrongful information from us-reliable sources. As a result, when we come is

and say " they are not dietitians " the average person would ask " what's the

difference " or " But i heard him on Oprah/Larry King " assuming that the

researches for these shows know what they are doing and who is real and who is

not. Making then an " authority " that they are not.Its working against us, not

for us!PS - I just learned today that in the state of NY you can be a

nutritionist if you show that you give " nutrition advice " .... well.......thats

about everyone on the planet! Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN

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Hi Lists,

Here's a funny ad I saw in my local Cincinnati Enquirer. He is appearing at

our local Kroger Marketplace this Thursday signing copies of his latest

books: Bob Greene's Total body, Best Life Diet Daily Journal, Cookbook, etc.

It states:

Bob Greene, Oprah's personal dietician/fitness consultant, will be at the

Hebron Kroger Marketplace from 2 - 4 pm signing copies of his latest books.

I love that now he is a " dietician " . I thought this was funny b/c we know he

is not.

:-) Betsy Oriolo, MS RD LD CDE

Total Nutrition Therapy, LLC

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Jan,I don't have any problem with his ambitions and the way he promotes himself.

I agree - all those who are interested in that kind of career - should do the PR

for themselves, or have/hire others do it for them, but otherwise ambition is

great and very welcome. My problem is that Larry King and Oprah are introducing

him as a nutritionist/dietitian/nutrition authority which is confusing the

public. He is not. And with all due respect to Exercise physiologists - they are

not RDs. Even if they studied one semester of nutrition classes, doesn't make

them sport dietitians, doesn't make them an authority in nutrition. Just like I

dont dare to give advice in exercise, even though I go to the gym and I am a

yoga (certified!) instrctor. Just like doctors are not dietitians, just because

they had one class on nutrition in their 7 years of school. We all know how

limited their knowledge is in nutrition, though they would like (some of them)

to pretend they do.So ambition is one thing, not being honest and clear that YOU

ARE NOT A DIETITIAN that's where my problem is. being ambitious doesn't mean you

have to lie or mislead. and the public should know that when they get nutrition

advice from a personal trainer/exercise physiologist/Oprah/Larry King they

should question the reliability and credibility. This where ADA should, in my

eyes, step in, and do the PR for us as a group. Speak up and say this is who we

are, we are the ONLY science-based authority in nutrition, nutrition education

and nutrition counseling, we are the ones who study this much to become the

experts we are.Larry King or Oprah would NEVER invite ANY of us to speak about

the flu vaccine, heart surgery or Alzheimer. unless we talk about the nutrition

regimen that could affect/prevent that (not the flu....LOL). Aside of it - yes -

we should all do it locally (some of us more vocals then others....), but ADA

should back us up, should REPRESENT US, INTRODUCE US. WHen they dont - people

like Greene step into that space and give advice that are not all true/right but

the public drinks it as if it was holly water served by a priest.I don't have

any problem with successful, ambitious people. I have a problem that they

" abuse " the misinformation of the public for their advantage. The public doesn't

know any better bc ADA doesn't step in and tells the public we exist. the

average person doesn't even know what ADA stands for (probably Amer. Diabetic or

Dental Assoc.) let alone what RD is and what is the difference between this as

Greene/nutritionistI believe that when ADA will start to be more present in

national TV, be more vocal PUBLICLY (NOT in Capital Hills only but really

publicly) getting MNT approved in Washington will be much easier bc the PUBLIC

will demand that! Till then, all others, chiropractors, personal trainers ect.

will block us or fight us, and its not for the public's benefit. IT could be

harmful!It is not about " capitalism " and " competition " is about the public right

to know, and the pubic deserves to know what real and what's not!Merav Levi, RD,

MS, CDN

To: rd-usa@...: Dineright4@...: Tue, 13 Jan 2009

16:24:54 -0500Subject: Re: RE: [NEdpg] Bob Greene, dietitian?

I have to respectfully disagree with you Merav.

Bob Green is an exercise physiologist, and telling people to " eat healthy "

is within the scope of his degree as far as I know. (And if an RD gets a lot of

money to be is ghost writer, that's entirely within the reasonable scope of

business practice - happens all the time - and more power to the RD that got

hired for THAT job)

And, it wasn't his " professional organization " that got him famous - it was

his abilities and networking and the people he knew, his TV presence, etc. . .

including Oprah - (I know a local guy and OLD friend of my husbands that

also worked with her in Telluride, but he just doesn't have the professional

savvy/presence, so Oprah stopped hiring him. His doctorate degree wasn't enough.

. .)

Joy Bauer, RD is on the View, the national news channel this am, and more.

It's not ADA that's gotten her where she's at, it's her own education and hard

work and personal connections.

Any one of us could be where Bob Greene is now, if we just worked our

connections right and maybe even were in the right place at the right time.

So, no

whining! ;-)

(I know a friend/RD that's a " head-hunter " of health professionals including

RDs. She has a sign in her office that says " No whining " in the circle with

a slash. She said if an RD is applying for a position and starts " whining "

at ALL, she wouldn't even consider referring that RD, and she also commented

that of all the health professions she worked with, RDs were by far the worst

whiners!)

He's just a clear example of who our competition is - and more power to him!

Jan Patenaude, RD,CLT

In a message dated 1/13/2009 1:18:43 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,

meravls@... writes:

Right here and then, he got the sealing approval of both Oprah and CNN/Larry

King....both " known " for the authority of " scientific based " porfessional

certification.Right here and then, he got the sealing approval of both Oprah and

CNN/Larry King....both " knownRight here and then, he got the sealing approva

Bob Greene got a A NATIONAL approval/certificatBob Greene got a A NATIONAL

approval/certificat<WBR>ion b/c the public doesn't know this is not the right

path, the right reference on nutrition but since no one from ADA steps for th

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN

To: _rd-usa@...@_ (mailto:rd-usa@...) :

_newlife4health@newlife4hea_ (mailto:newlife4health@...) : Tue, 13 Jan

2009 13:38:14 -0500Subject: Re: RE: [NEdpg] Bob Greene, dietitian?

Also, in answer to Oprah's question " What is metabolic syndrome? " he stated

last night on their webcast that " Metabolic syndrome is a way that we put on

weight, puts you at risk for pre-diabetes and diabetes. " Correct me if I am

wrong (please!), but last time I checked " metabolic syndrome " IS

pre-diabetes!Also, in answer to Oprah's question " What is metabolic syndrome? "

he stated

last night on their webcast that " Metabolic syndrome is a way that we put on

weight, puts you at risk for pre-dAlso, in answer to Oprah's question " What is

metabolic syndrome? " he stated last night on their webcast that " Metabolic

syndrome is a way that we put on weight, puts you at risk for pre-diabetes and

diabetes. " Correct me if I am wrong (please!), but last time I checked

" metabolic syndrome " IS pre-diabetes!<WBR>!! Is not metabolic syndrome just one

of

many alias names for it " pre-diabetes " (i.e., insulin resistance,

hyperinsulinemia, Syndrome X, metabolic syndrome).another name for

pre-diabetes!<WBR>!!!

Not only is Bob Greene not Also, in ansAlso, _newlife4health@newlife_

(mailto:newlife4health@...) (631) 704-6977----(631)

704-6977(631) 581-575_Dineright4@..._ (mailto:Dineright4@...) To:

_rd-usa@...-_ (mailto:rd-usa ) Sent: Tuesday,

January 13, 2009

11:20 AMSubject: Re: RE: [NEdpg] Bob Greene, dietitian?I hope you

called the local paper and spoke to the writer that wrote that, and correct

them.

AND, offer something else from a " real " dietitian.Jan PatenaudeIn a message

dated 1/13/2009 8:58:15 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, _klinkrb@..._

(mailto:klinkrb@...) writes:Obviously our professional name is

starting to mean something to themarketers Kathy Bingham MBA, MS, RD, LDN

Nutrition TherapistHelping you make the most out of Life ©Everything can be

taken

away save one thing: AttitudeDirector of Clinical Nutrition ServicesGibson

Area Hospital and Health Services1120 N Melvin StreetGibson City, IL 60936Work

Phone: Fax: CONFIDE writes:Obviously our

professional name is starting to mean something to themarketers Kathy Bingham

MBA, MS,

RD, LDN Nutrition writes:Obviously our professional name is starting to mean

somethin writes:Obviously our professional name is starting to mean

something to themarketers Kathy Bingham MBA, MS, RD, LDN Nutrition

TherapistHelping

you make the most out of Life ©Everything can be taken away save one thing:

AttitudeDirector of Clinical Nutrition ServicesGibson Area Hospital and

Health Services1120 N Melvin StreetGibson City, IL 60936Work Phone:

Fax: writes:Obviously our prof w__NEdpgyahoogroups (DOT) _NE_

(mailto:_NEdpg@...) _ (mailto:_NEdpg@..._

(mailto:NEdpg ) )

[mailto:__NEdpgyahoogroups (DOT) _NE_ (mailto:_NEdpg@...) _

(mailto:_NEdpg@..._ (mailto:NEdpg ) ) ] On Behalf

OfBetsy

Oriolo, MS RD LD CDESent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 9:26 AMTo: NE dpg; RD

USASubject: [NEdpg] Bob Greene, dietitian?Hi Lists,Here's a funny ad I saw in

my

local Cincinnati Enquirer. He is appearingat our local Kroger Marketplace

this Thursday signing copies of hislatest books: Bob Greene's Total body, Best

Life Diet Daily Journal,Cookbook, etc. It states:Bob Greene, Oprah's personal

dietician/fitness consultant, will be atthe Hebron Kroger Marketplace from 2

- 4 pm signing copies of his latestbooks. I love that now he is a

" dietician " . I thought this was funny b/c weknow he is not. :-) Betsy Oriolo,

MS RD LD

CDETotal Nutrition Therapy, LLCwww.eatright123.) ] On Behalf OfBetsy Oriolo,

MS RDIVATE PRACTICE CD-ROM! Includesmodifiable forms, doctor letters,

marketing tools, resources and more.Also available: Diabetes and Weight

Management

CD-roms. As seen inToday's Dietitian and Nasco. www.eatright123.IVATE PRACTICE

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Jan,I don't have any problem with his ambitions and the way he promotes himself.

I agree - all those who are interested in that kind of career - should do the PR

for themselves, or have/hire others do it for them, but otherwise ambition is

great and very welcome. My problem is that Larry King and Oprah are introducing

him as a nutritionist/dietitian/nutrition authority which is confusing the

public. He is not. And with all due respect to Exercise physiologists - they are

not RDs. Even if they studied one semester of nutrition classes, doesn't make

them sport dietitians, doesn't make them an authority in nutrition. Just like I

dont dare to give advice in exercise, even though I go to the gym and I am a

yoga (certified!) instrctor. Just like doctors are not dietitians, just because

they had one class on nutrition in their 7 years of school. We all know how

limited their knowledge is in nutrition, though they would like (some of them)

to pretend they do.So ambition is one thing, not being honest and clear that YOU

ARE NOT A DIETITIAN that's where my problem is. being ambitious doesn't mean you

have to lie or mislead. and the public should know that when they get nutrition

advice from a personal trainer/exercise physiologist/Oprah/Larry King they

should question the reliability and credibility. This where ADA should, in my

eyes, step in, and do the PR for us as a group. Speak up and say this is who we

are, we are the ONLY science-based authority in nutrition, nutrition education

and nutrition counseling, we are the ones who study this much to become the

experts we are.Larry King or Oprah would NEVER invite ANY of us to speak about

the flu vaccine, heart surgery or Alzheimer. unless we talk about the nutrition

regimen that could affect/prevent that (not the flu....LOL). Aside of it - yes -

we should all do it locally (some of us more vocals then others....), but ADA

should back us up, should REPRESENT US, INTRODUCE US. WHen they dont - people

like Greene step into that space and give advice that are not all true/right but

the public drinks it as if it was holly water served by a priest.I don't have

any problem with successful, ambitious people. I have a problem that they

" abuse " the misinformation of the public for their advantage. The public doesn't

know any better bc ADA doesn't step in and tells the public we exist. the

average person doesn't even know what ADA stands for (probably Amer. Diabetic or

Dental Assoc.) let alone what RD is and what is the difference between this as

Greene/nutritionistI believe that when ADA will start to be more present in

national TV, be more vocal PUBLICLY (NOT in Capital Hills only but really

publicly) getting MNT approved in Washington will be much easier bc the PUBLIC

will demand that! Till then, all others, chiropractors, personal trainers ect.

will block us or fight us, and its not for the public's benefit. IT could be

harmful!It is not about " capitalism " and " competition " is about the public right

to know, and the pubic deserves to know what real and what's not!Merav Levi, RD,

MS, CDN

To: rd-usa@...: Dineright4@...: Tue, 13 Jan 2009

16:24:54 -0500Subject: Re: RE: [NEdpg] Bob Greene, dietitian?

I have to respectfully disagree with you Merav.

Bob Green is an exercise physiologist, and telling people to " eat healthy "

is within the scope of his degree as far as I know. (And if an RD gets a lot of

money to be is ghost writer, that's entirely within the reasonable scope of

business practice - happens all the time - and more power to the RD that got

hired for THAT job)

And, it wasn't his " professional organization " that got him famous - it was

his abilities and networking and the people he knew, his TV presence, etc. . .

including Oprah - (I know a local guy and OLD friend of my husbands that

also worked with her in Telluride, but he just doesn't have the professional

savvy/presence, so Oprah stopped hiring him. His doctorate degree wasn't enough.

. .)

Joy Bauer, RD is on the View, the national news channel this am, and more.

It's not ADA that's gotten her where she's at, it's her own education and hard

work and personal connections.

Any one of us could be where Bob Greene is now, if we just worked our

connections right and maybe even were in the right place at the right time.

So, no

whining! ;-)

(I know a friend/RD that's a " head-hunter " of health professionals including

RDs. She has a sign in her office that says " No whining " in the circle with

a slash. She said if an RD is applying for a position and starts " whining "

at ALL, she wouldn't even consider referring that RD, and she also commented

that of all the health professions she worked with, RDs were by far the worst

whiners!)

He's just a clear example of who our competition is - and more power to him!

Jan Patenaude, RD,CLT

In a message dated 1/13/2009 1:18:43 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,

meravls@... writes:

Right here and then, he got the sealing approval of both Oprah and CNN/Larry

King....both " known " for the authority of " scientific based " porfessional

certification.Right here and then, he got the sealing approval of both Oprah and

CNN/Larry King....both " knownRight here and then, he got the sealing approva

Bob Greene got a A NATIONAL approval/certificatBob Greene got a A NATIONAL

approval/certificat<WBR>ion b/c the public doesn't know this is not the right

path, the right reference on nutrition but since no one from ADA steps for th

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN

To: _rd-usa@...@_ (mailto:rd-usa@...) :

_newlife4health@newlife4hea_ (mailto:newlife4health@...) : Tue, 13 Jan

2009 13:38:14 -0500Subject: Re: RE: [NEdpg] Bob Greene, dietitian?

Also, in answer to Oprah's question " What is metabolic syndrome? " he stated

last night on their webcast that " Metabolic syndrome is a way that we put on

weight, puts you at risk for pre-diabetes and diabetes. " Correct me if I am

wrong (please!), but last time I checked " metabolic syndrome " IS

pre-diabetes!Also, in answer to Oprah's question " What is metabolic syndrome? "

he stated

last night on their webcast that " Metabolic syndrome is a way that we put on

weight, puts you at risk for pre-dAlso, in answer to Oprah's question " What is

metabolic syndrome? " he stated last night on their webcast that " Metabolic

syndrome is a way that we put on weight, puts you at risk for pre-diabetes and

diabetes. " Correct me if I am wrong (please!), but last time I checked

" metabolic syndrome " IS pre-diabetes!<WBR>!! Is not metabolic syndrome just one

of

many alias names for it " pre-diabetes " (i.e., insulin resistance,

hyperinsulinemia, Syndrome X, metabolic syndrome).another name for

pre-diabetes!<WBR>!!!

Not only is Bob Greene not Also, in ansAlso, _newlife4health@newlife_

(mailto:newlife4health@...) (631) 704-6977----(631)

704-6977(631) 581-575_Dineright4@..._ (mailto:Dineright4@...) To:

_rd-usa@...-_ (mailto:rd-usa ) Sent: Tuesday,

January 13, 2009

11:20 AMSubject: Re: RE: [NEdpg] Bob Greene, dietitian?I hope you

called the local paper and spoke to the writer that wrote that, and correct

them.

AND, offer something else from a " real " dietitian.Jan PatenaudeIn a message

dated 1/13/2009 8:58:15 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, _klinkrb@..._

(mailto:klinkrb@...) writes:Obviously our professional name is

starting to mean something to themarketers Kathy Bingham MBA, MS, RD, LDN

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somethin writes:Obviously our professional name is starting to mean

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TherapistHelping

you make the most out of Life ©Everything can be taken away save one thing:

AttitudeDirector of Clinical Nutrition ServicesGibson Area Hospital and

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USASubject: [NEdpg] Bob Greene, dietitian?Hi Lists,Here's a funny ad I saw in

my

local Cincinnati Enquirer. He is appearingat our local Kroger Marketplace

this Thursday signing copies of hislatest books: Bob Greene's Total body, Best

Life Diet Daily Journal,Cookbook, etc. It states:Bob Greene, Oprah's personal

dietician/fitness consultant, will be atthe Hebron Kroger Marketplace from 2

- 4 pm signing copies of his latestbooks. I love that now he is a

" dietician " . I thought this was funny b/c weknow he is not. :-) Betsy Oriolo,

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It won't be respected for long, if we let anyone who wants to claim to be a

dietiican.

Dave

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But what it does show is that the term " dietitian " is catching on, becoming

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Hi Lists,

Here's a funny ad I saw in my local Cincinnati Enquirer. He is appearing at

our local Kroger Marketplace this Thursday signing copies of his latest

books: Bob Greene's Total body, Best Life Diet Daily Journal, Cookbook, etc.

It states:

Bob Greene, Oprah's personal dietician/fitness consultant, will be at the

Hebron Kroger Marketplace from 2 - 4 pm signing copies of his latest books.

I love that now he is a " dietician " . I thought this was funny b/c we know he

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