Re: It's always been due to hypothyroid (Chronic fatigue and fibro)

[Guest guest]

Well Denver is at the foot of the Rockies and some of the communities

like Boulder Evergreen etc are in the foothills. And Denver isn't

flat by any means.

The worst driving we have had is that one day it started raining, the

rain turned to freezing drizzle, that froze and we had 6 inches of

snow on top of that. White knuckle driving all the way. (And

these " people " in their big SUVs still speeding in that that. I won't

say what I am thinking but I will say (*)@!*#(!! & *# )

Louise

> > > > > HOW MUCH SNOW????

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hugs, Carol B (who woke up to lots of snow and

> > > > > > will need 4wh to get out this morning. My dog is in

HEAVEN.

> > LOL

> > > > > She

> > > > > > loves it)

[Guest guest]

Well Denver is at the foot of the Rockies and some of the communities

like Boulder Evergreen etc are in the foothills. And Denver isn't

flat by any means.

The worst driving we have had is that one day it started raining, the

rain turned to freezing drizzle, that froze and we had 6 inches of

snow on top of that. White knuckle driving all the way. (And

these " people " in their big SUVs still speeding in that that. I won't

say what I am thinking but I will say (*)@!*#(!! & *# )

Louise

> > > > > HOW MUCH SNOW????

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hugs, Carol B (who woke up to lots of snow and

> > > > > > will need 4wh to get out this morning. My dog is in

HEAVEN.

> > LOL

> > > > > She

> > > > > > loves it)

[Guest guest]

http://www.drlowe.com/QandA/askdrlowe/mostrecent.htm OK, just reading the

questions and answers here, you will see he dodges the question of the meds he

recommends which are OTC not prescription. As you go further, you will see that

he takes credit for the levels of a patient on Armour being monitored closely,

when he has really nothing to do with that. Now I have contacted several of the

people that I know have gone to him. While they liked speaking with him because

the correct wording was there, they were shocked not only at what the costs

were, but that they had to go to someone else for in lab testing and meds. That

was a double whammy. I hadn't heard back if I could use there stories on this

yet, so I wouldn't have mentioned the extreme price unless you had. I would be

more interested to see who has continued to go to him. Yes, some of the inf.

that he has gathered is just like what we have gathered. He has put it together.

I have not disputed the effective and well laid out website. It is his leading

people to believe that he can treat them on this protocol of Armour. How he is

making a lot of money on other peoples treatment. Like I said in my post this

morning, read the questions and answers, not the web site. This is my opinion. I

think rather than listen to the glitz, many of you will be shocked when you

really go through the questions and see what I am referring to. JMHO

Re: It's always been due to hypothyroid

(Chronic fatigue and fibro)

This is an interesting discussion (and I do appreciate when folks do

not put down someone else for having a different opinion.)

Jamy, I cannnot find anything in your posts that explains what you

disagree with about Lowe, and we can all benefit by another's

information. Can you quote something specific that Lowe has said

that you disagree with?

Reviewing your post, you stated that " thyroid, fibro, chronic

fatigue, allergies all seem to be side effects of not enough thyroid

meds. " I believe that is also the same thing that Lowe states, so in

that, you are in agreement with him.....

Let us know more specifically.

Janie

> For me with Lowe, it has come from research.........

[Guest guest]

I guess I don't know him that well. I was always told that he agreed

with your chiropractor. i.e. Fibro/chronic fatigue will dissapate on

correct thyroid treatment. That is exactly what Dr. Odom has seen

in his practice (the top doc I went to see). I guess what you are

telling me is that he is TWO FACED? I didn't know that. I will check

it out when I get the time (and energy). Hugs, Carol B

> > > > > And yet another comment by Dr. Derry worth

> considering:

> > > > >

> > > > > Chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia were [supposedly]

non-

> > existent

> > > > > before 1980. This is seven years after the 1973

consensus

> > > meeting

> > > > > [that the TSH would be used to diagnose hypo.] So

where

> did

> > > these

> > > > > two new diseases come from? The symptoms and signs of

> chronic

> > > > > fatigue and fibromyalgia were described in the

literature

> in

> > the

> > > > > 1930's as one way that low thyroid could be

expressed.

> > Treated

> > > > early

> > > > > it was easily fixed with thyroid in adequate doses.

But

> even

> > > then

> > > > > the clinicians had noticed that if a patient has low

> thyroid

> > > > > (chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia) for too long then

it

> > became

> > > more

> > > > > difficult to reverse all signs and symptoms

regardless of

> > what

> > > they

> > > > > were.

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I agree. Do you use the term " Flatlander? " . Boy the stories I could

tell. Such as, comming around the curve on the highway in a snow

storm to find someone stopped in the middle of the road putting on

chains. You are right, it's not me I'm worried about but the other

guy. LOL Hugs, Carol B

> > > > > > HOW MUCH SNOW????

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hugs, Carol B (who woke up to lots of snow and

> > > > > > > will need 4wh to get out this morning. My dog is in

> HEAVEN.

> > > LOL

> > > > > > She

> > > > > > > loves it)

[Guest guest]

I don't use the term flatlander (even though it does apply to the

eastern plains and certain states east of here that begin with a K

and an O. )

Nothing scarier than seeing a car with California plates in the

middle of winter. OK some areas of CA get snow BUT you don't know

that.

Louise

> > > > > > > HOW MUCH SNOW????

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hugs, Carol B (who woke up to lots of snow and

> > > > > > > > will need 4wh to get out this morning. My dog is in

> > HEAVEN.

> > > > LOL

> > > > > > > She

> > > > > > > > loves it)

[Guest guest]

I don't use the term flatlander (even though it does apply to the

eastern plains and certain states east of here that begin with a K

and an O. )

Nothing scarier than seeing a car with California plates in the

middle of winter. OK some areas of CA get snow BUT you don't know

that.

Louise

> > > > > > > HOW MUCH SNOW????

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hugs, Carol B (who woke up to lots of snow and

> > > > > > > > will need 4wh to get out this morning. My dog is in

> > HEAVEN.

> > > > LOL

> > > > > > > She

> > > > > > > > loves it)

[Guest guest]

Ok, when I come to Colorado, remind me to switch plates. I don't want

anyone to have a heart attack. LOL Hugs, Carol B

> > > > > > > > HOW MUCH SNOW????

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hugs, Carol B (who woke up to lots of snow and

> > > > > > > > > will need 4wh to get out this morning. My dog is in

> > > HEAVEN.

> > > > > LOL

> > > > > > > > She

> > > > > > > > > loves it)

[Guest guest]

Ok, when I come to Colorado, remind me to switch plates. I don't want

anyone to have a heart attack. LOL Hugs, Carol B

> > > > > > > > HOW MUCH SNOW????

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hugs, Carol B (who woke up to lots of snow and

> > > > > > > > > will need 4wh to get out this morning. My dog is in

> > > HEAVEN.

> > > > > LOL

> > > > > > > > She

> > > > > > > > > loves it)

[Guest guest]

Oh and remember to take the surf board off the roof of the car

too. (No kidding - one time we had a snow storm and my dad and I

saw this woman get out of her car and struggle to put chains on her

rear wheels. Uhm she had a FRONT wheel drive car. )

Louise

> > > > > > > > > HOW MUCH SNOW????

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hugs, Carol B (who woke up to lots of snow and

> > > > > > > > > > will need 4wh to get out this morning. My dog is

in

> > > > HEAVEN.

> > > > > > LOL

> > > > > > > > > She

> > > > > > > > > > loves it)

[Guest guest]

Oh and remember to take the surf board off the roof of the car

too. (No kidding - one time we had a snow storm and my dad and I

saw this woman get out of her car and struggle to put chains on her

rear wheels. Uhm she had a FRONT wheel drive car. )

Louise

> > > > > > > > > HOW MUCH SNOW????

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hugs, Carol B (who woke up to lots of snow and

> > > > > > > > > > will need 4wh to get out this morning. My dog is

in

> > > > HEAVEN.

> > > > > > LOL

> > > > > > > > > She

> > > > > > > > > > loves it)

[Guest guest]

Oh and remember to take the surf board off the roof of the car too.

Nothing scarier than seeing someone put chains on the rear wheels of

a front wheel drive car - major DUH!!!

Louise

> > > > > > > > > HOW MUCH SNOW????

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hugs, Carol B (who woke up to lots of snow and

> > > > > > > > > > will need 4wh to get out this morning. My dog is

in

> > > > HEAVEN.

> > > > > > LOL

> > > > > > > > > She

> > > > > > > > > > loves it)

[Guest guest]

Oh and remember to take the surf board off the roof of the car too.

Nothing scarier than seeing someone put chains on the rear wheels of

a front wheel drive car - major DUH!!!

Louise

> > > > > > > > > HOW MUCH SNOW????

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hugs, Carol B (who woke up to lots of snow and

> > > > > > > > > > will need 4wh to get out this morning. My dog is

in

> > > > HEAVEN.

> > > > > > LOL

> > > > > > > > > She

> > > > > > > > > > loves it)