Guest guest Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 I understand all you both have written below. The talking points are all there, and most are probably accurate. But school food programs will NOT curb obesity. Never has, never will. Convenience foods are very expensive. They CAN afford cheaper, healthier foods instead, including canned veggies at the local convenience store instead of “burritos†and fried tater tots, etc. The cost per pound of convenience foods is very high. It’s ignorance of the facts, misinformation and lack of motivation to change eating habits that cause much obesity in children and adults. Letting the government take over the responsibility of feeding children won’t change it. More crummy snack foods will simply become even MORE affordable by families who get the “free†school foods ride. TV time every night will still include all the garbage that I like to eat on rare occasion, like my potato chips and onion dip last night! None of what is detailed below justifies taking from me and other hard-working Americans to feed someone else’s kids. It won’t save money down the road in health care. That’s just wishful thinking. Never has, never will. From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Gilpin Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 8:36 AM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Child nutrition bill derailed I just wanted to add to what said below. I too, am not in favor of government waste and spending. However, I live in an area where 50% of the new cases of type 2 diabetes are diagnosed in children. It has economicially affected the non for profit HMO I used to work for so much, that they are now funding school programs in the community to try and combat childhood obesity. These kids are obese for all of the reasons stated below. No matter who is to blame, I truly believe we can either pay now, or pay dearly later when we have a very large population of young adults that are too sick with obesity related chronic conditions to enter the workforce. Who do you think will be paying for the healthcare to treat this group, and for their disability? Just a thought.. From: Ro <lindarord@...<mailto:lindarord%40att.net>> Subject: Re: Child nutrition bill derailed To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 4:04 AM , I fully understand your frustration with government supported nutrition programs, but I work with lower income special needs children, and need to point out one thing: the overweight/obesity issue is often not because parents are feeding their kids too large a volume of food and thus wasting money. It has to do with decreased physical activity (sometimes due to it being unsafe to play outside), our love of video games, lack of parental cooking skills, the huge increase in convenience foods aimed at toddlers and young children so that parents think that’s what they should be feeding their children (Blame Gerber.), low nutrient-density foods being cheaper and fast foods being faster when both parents work (if there are two parents), our concept of proper portion sizes for children (and adults, too), and often the lack of full grocery stores in many urban neighborhoods. “Corner markets†carry no produce. I live in a suburb of a medium-size city but have several patients in the city. The “Southside†has NO grocery stores. The “Eastside†has one. Please note also that many of the overweight children come from homes that do not qualify for free or reduced price school meals. I have a granddaughter who is one. (Yes, I make suggestions, but there is only so much Grandma can say.) This has become a societal issue in addition to one of individual parental choice. I wish I had a quick answer. Ro From: Digna Cassens Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 12:28 AM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: Child nutrition bill derailed I'm with you. From: mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rowell, Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:46 AM To: mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com' Subject: RE: Child nutrition bill derailed Good! I don't want to pay for those meals with my hard earned income. Their parents can do that. And don't tell me they can't afford it then turn around and complain about how fat kids are! You can't have it both ways. And don't tell me the government programs will help them lose weight. It's never worked before.. that would fit in the definition of insanity. You know... expecting a different result. Shrink the government, not our incomes. W. Rowell, RD, LN Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT Consultant Dietitian, Long Term Care Certified LEAP Therapist Child nutrition bill derailed House Republicans have temporarily blocked legislation to feed school meals to thousands more hungry children. Republicans used a procedural maneuver Wednesday to try to amend the $4.5 billion bill, which would give more needy children the opportunity to eat free lunches at school and make those lunches healthier. First lady Obama has lobbied for the bill as part of her " Let's Move " campaign to combat childhood obesity. House Democrats said the GOP amendment, which would have required background checks for child care workers, was an effort to kill the bill and delayed a final vote on the legislation rather than vote on the amendment. Because the nutrition bill is identical to legislation passed by the Senate in August, passage would send it to the White House for President Barack Obama's signature. If the bill were amended, it would be sent back to the Senate with little time left in the legislative session. House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md. said the House would hold separate votes on Thursday on the amendment and the bill. Republicans say the nutrition bill is too costly and an example of government overreach. " It's not about making our children healthy and active, " said Rep. Kline, R-Minn., the top Republican on the House Education and Labor Committee. " We all want to see our children healthy and active. This is about spending and the role of government and the size of government - a debate about whether we're listening to our constituents or not. " Former Alaska Gov. Palin has also taken a swipe at the first lady's campaign, bringing cookies to a speech at a Pennsylvania school last month and calling the campaign a " school cookie ban debate " and " nanny state run amok " on her Twitter feed. The legislation would give the government the power to decide what kinds of foods could be sold and what ingredients may be limited in school lunch lines and vending machines. The Agriculture Department would create the standards, which would likely keep popular foods like hamburgers and pizza in school cafeterias but make them healthier, using leaner meat or whole wheat crust, for example. Vending machines could be stocked with less candy and fewer high-calorie drinks. The bill would provide money to serve more than 20 million additional after-school meals annually to children in all 50 states. Many of those children now only receive after-school snacks. It would also increase the number of children eligible for school meals programs by at least 115,000, using Medicaid and census data to identify them. The legislation would increase the amount of money schools are reimbursed by 6 cents a meal, a priority for schools that say they don't have the dollars to feed needy kids. (This version CORRECTS that Palin is a former, not current, Alaska governor.) LINK here<http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jXlg4sewEO29T6Zz_IFA_ VV2XKJQ?docId=9bc7bb1a3798417ea70483eed01e2fa4> -- Ortiz, MS, RD *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition Chocolate Calculator <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=9379> " Nutrition is a science, Not an Opinion survey " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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