RE: Child nutrition bill derailed

[Guest guest]

Good! I don't want to pay for those meals with my hard earned income. Their

parents can do that. And don't tell me they can't afford it then turn around and

complain about how fat kids are! You can't have it both ways. And don't tell me

the government programs will help them lose weight. It's never worked before..

that would fit in the definition of insanity. You know... expecting a different

result. Shrink the government, not our incomes.

W. Rowell, RD, LN

Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT

Consultant Dietitian, Long Term Care

Certified LEAP Therapist

Child nutrition bill derailed

House Republicans have temporarily blocked legislation to feed school meals

to thousands more hungry children.

Republicans used a procedural maneuver Wednesday to try to amend the $4.5

billion bill, which would give more needy children the opportunity to eat

free lunches at school and make those lunches healthier. First lady

Obama has lobbied for the bill as part of her " Let's Move " campaign to

combat childhood obesity.

House Democrats said the GOP amendment, which would have required background

checks for child care workers, was an effort to kill the bill and delayed a

final vote on the legislation rather than vote on the amendment.

Because the nutrition bill is identical to legislation passed by the Senate

in August, passage would send it to the White House for President Barack

Obama's signature. If the bill were amended, it would be sent back to the

Senate with little time left in the legislative session.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md. said the House would hold separate

votes on Thursday on the amendment and the bill.

Republicans say the nutrition bill is too costly and an example of

government overreach.

" It's not about making our children healthy and active, " said Rep.

Kline, R-Minn., the top Republican on the House Education and Labor

Committee. " We all want to see our children healthy and active. This is

about spending and the role of government and the size of government - a

debate about whether we're listening to our constituents or not. "

Former Alaska Gov. Palin has also taken a swipe at the first lady's

campaign, bringing cookies to a speech at a Pennsylvania school last month

and calling the campaign a " school cookie ban debate " and " nanny state run

amok " on her Twitter feed.

The legislation would give the government the power to decide what kinds of

foods could be sold and what ingredients may be limited in school lunch

lines and vending machines.

The Agriculture Department would create the standards, which would likely

keep popular foods like hamburgers and pizza in school cafeterias but make

them healthier, using leaner meat or whole wheat crust, for example. Vending

machines could be stocked with less candy and fewer high-calorie drinks.

The bill would provide money to serve more than 20 million additional

after-school meals annually to children in all 50 states. Many of those

children now only receive after-school snacks. It would also increase the

number of children eligible for school meals programs by at least 115,000,

using Medicaid and census data to identify them.

The legislation would increase the amount of money schools are reimbursed by

6 cents a meal, a priority for schools that say they don't have the dollars

to feed needy kids.

(This version CORRECTS that Palin is a former, not current, Alaska

governor.)

LINK

here<http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jXlg4sewEO29T6Zz_IFA_VV2X\

KJQ?docId=9bc7bb1a3798417ea70483eed01e2fa4>

--

Ortiz, MS, RD

*The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

Chocolate Calculator <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=9379>

" Nutrition is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

[Guest guest]

Good! I don't want to pay for those meals with my hard earned income. Their

parents can do that. And don't tell me they can't afford it then turn around and

complain about how fat kids are! You can't have it both ways. And don't tell me

the government programs will help them lose weight. It's never worked before..

that would fit in the definition of insanity. You know... expecting a different

result. Shrink the government, not our incomes.

W. Rowell, RD, LN

Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT

Consultant Dietitian, Long Term Care

Certified LEAP Therapist

Child nutrition bill derailed

House Republicans have temporarily blocked legislation to feed school meals

to thousands more hungry children.

Republicans used a procedural maneuver Wednesday to try to amend the $4.5

billion bill, which would give more needy children the opportunity to eat

free lunches at school and make those lunches healthier. First lady

Obama has lobbied for the bill as part of her " Let's Move " campaign to

combat childhood obesity.

House Democrats said the GOP amendment, which would have required background

checks for child care workers, was an effort to kill the bill and delayed a

final vote on the legislation rather than vote on the amendment.

Because the nutrition bill is identical to legislation passed by the Senate

in August, passage would send it to the White House for President Barack

Obama's signature. If the bill were amended, it would be sent back to the

Senate with little time left in the legislative session.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md. said the House would hold separate

votes on Thursday on the amendment and the bill.

Republicans say the nutrition bill is too costly and an example of

government overreach.

" It's not about making our children healthy and active, " said Rep.

Kline, R-Minn., the top Republican on the House Education and Labor

Committee. " We all want to see our children healthy and active. This is

about spending and the role of government and the size of government - a

debate about whether we're listening to our constituents or not. "

Former Alaska Gov. Palin has also taken a swipe at the first lady's

campaign, bringing cookies to a speech at a Pennsylvania school last month

and calling the campaign a " school cookie ban debate " and " nanny state run

amok " on her Twitter feed.

The legislation would give the government the power to decide what kinds of

foods could be sold and what ingredients may be limited in school lunch

lines and vending machines.

The Agriculture Department would create the standards, which would likely

keep popular foods like hamburgers and pizza in school cafeterias but make

them healthier, using leaner meat or whole wheat crust, for example. Vending

machines could be stocked with less candy and fewer high-calorie drinks.

The bill would provide money to serve more than 20 million additional

after-school meals annually to children in all 50 states. Many of those

children now only receive after-school snacks. It would also increase the

number of children eligible for school meals programs by at least 115,000,

using Medicaid and census data to identify them.

The legislation would increase the amount of money schools are reimbursed by

6 cents a meal, a priority for schools that say they don't have the dollars

to feed needy kids.

(This version CORRECTS that Palin is a former, not current, Alaska

governor.)

LINK

here<http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jXlg4sewEO29T6Zz_IFA_VV2X\

KJQ?docId=9bc7bb1a3798417ea70483eed01e2fa4>

--

Ortiz, MS, RD

*The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

Chocolate Calculator <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=9379>

" Nutrition is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

[Guest guest]

I'm with you.

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of

Rowell,

Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:46 AM

To: 'rd-usa '

Subject: RE: Child nutrition bill derailed

Good! I don't want to pay for those meals with my hard earned income. Their

parents can do that. And don't tell me they can't afford it then turn around

and complain about how fat kids are! You can't have it both ways. And don't

tell me the government programs will help them lose weight. It's never

worked before.. that would fit in the definition of insanity. You know...

expecting a different result. Shrink the government, not our incomes.

W. Rowell, RD, LN

Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT

Consultant Dietitian, Long Term Care

Certified LEAP Therapist

Child nutrition bill derailed

House Republicans have temporarily blocked legislation to feed school meals

to thousands more hungry children.

Republicans used a procedural maneuver Wednesday to try to amend the $4.5

billion bill, which would give more needy children the opportunity to eat

free lunches at school and make those lunches healthier. First lady

Obama has lobbied for the bill as part of her " Let's Move " campaign to

combat childhood obesity.

House Democrats said the GOP amendment, which would have required background

checks for child care workers, was an effort to kill the bill and delayed a

final vote on the legislation rather than vote on the amendment.

Because the nutrition bill is identical to legislation passed by the Senate

in August, passage would send it to the White House for President Barack

Obama's signature. If the bill were amended, it would be sent back to the

Senate with little time left in the legislative session.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md. said the House would hold separate

votes on Thursday on the amendment and the bill.

Republicans say the nutrition bill is too costly and an example of

government overreach.

" It's not about making our children healthy and active, " said Rep.

Kline, R-Minn., the top Republican on the House Education and Labor

Committee. " We all want to see our children healthy and active. This is

about spending and the role of government and the size of government - a

debate about whether we're listening to our constituents or not. "

Former Alaska Gov. Palin has also taken a swipe at the first lady's

campaign, bringing cookies to a speech at a Pennsylvania school last month

and calling the campaign a " school cookie ban debate " and " nanny state run

amok " on her Twitter feed.

The legislation would give the government the power to decide what kinds of

foods could be sold and what ingredients may be limited in school lunch

lines and vending machines.

The Agriculture Department would create the standards, which would likely

keep popular foods like hamburgers and pizza in school cafeterias but make

them healthier, using leaner meat or whole wheat crust, for example. Vending

machines could be stocked with less candy and fewer high-calorie drinks.

The bill would provide money to serve more than 20 million additional

after-school meals annually to children in all 50 states. Many of those

children now only receive after-school snacks. It would also increase the

number of children eligible for school meals programs by at least 115,000,

using Medicaid and census data to identify them.

The legislation would increase the amount of money schools are reimbursed by

6 cents a meal, a priority for schools that say they don't have the dollars

to feed needy kids.

(This version CORRECTS that Palin is a former, not current, Alaska

governor.)

LINK

here<http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jXlg4sewEO29T6Zz_IFA_

VV2XKJQ?docId=9bc7bb1a3798417ea70483eed01e2fa4>

--

Ortiz, MS, RD

*The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

Chocolate Calculator <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=9379>

" Nutrition is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

[Guest guest]

I'm with you.

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of

Rowell,

Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:46 AM

To: 'rd-usa '

Subject: RE: Child nutrition bill derailed

Good! I don't want to pay for those meals with my hard earned income. Their

parents can do that. And don't tell me they can't afford it then turn around

and complain about how fat kids are! You can't have it both ways. And don't

tell me the government programs will help them lose weight. It's never

worked before.. that would fit in the definition of insanity. You know...

expecting a different result. Shrink the government, not our incomes.

W. Rowell, RD, LN

Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT

Consultant Dietitian, Long Term Care

Certified LEAP Therapist

Child nutrition bill derailed

House Republicans have temporarily blocked legislation to feed school meals

to thousands more hungry children.

Republicans used a procedural maneuver Wednesday to try to amend the $4.5

billion bill, which would give more needy children the opportunity to eat

free lunches at school and make those lunches healthier. First lady

Obama has lobbied for the bill as part of her " Let's Move " campaign to

combat childhood obesity.

House Democrats said the GOP amendment, which would have required background

checks for child care workers, was an effort to kill the bill and delayed a

final vote on the legislation rather than vote on the amendment.

Because the nutrition bill is identical to legislation passed by the Senate

in August, passage would send it to the White House for President Barack

Obama's signature. If the bill were amended, it would be sent back to the

Senate with little time left in the legislative session.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md. said the House would hold separate

votes on Thursday on the amendment and the bill.

Republicans say the nutrition bill is too costly and an example of

government overreach.

" It's not about making our children healthy and active, " said Rep.

Kline, R-Minn., the top Republican on the House Education and Labor

Committee. " We all want to see our children healthy and active. This is

about spending and the role of government and the size of government - a

debate about whether we're listening to our constituents or not. "

Former Alaska Gov. Palin has also taken a swipe at the first lady's

campaign, bringing cookies to a speech at a Pennsylvania school last month

and calling the campaign a " school cookie ban debate " and " nanny state run

amok " on her Twitter feed.

The legislation would give the government the power to decide what kinds of

foods could be sold and what ingredients may be limited in school lunch

lines and vending machines.

The Agriculture Department would create the standards, which would likely

keep popular foods like hamburgers and pizza in school cafeterias but make

them healthier, using leaner meat or whole wheat crust, for example. Vending

machines could be stocked with less candy and fewer high-calorie drinks.

The bill would provide money to serve more than 20 million additional

after-school meals annually to children in all 50 states. Many of those

children now only receive after-school snacks. It would also increase the

number of children eligible for school meals programs by at least 115,000,

using Medicaid and census data to identify them.

The legislation would increase the amount of money schools are reimbursed by

6 cents a meal, a priority for schools that say they don't have the dollars

to feed needy kids.

(This version CORRECTS that Palin is a former, not current, Alaska

governor.)

LINK

here<http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jXlg4sewEO29T6Zz_IFA_

VV2XKJQ?docId=9bc7bb1a3798417ea70483eed01e2fa4>

--

Ortiz, MS, RD

*The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

Chocolate Calculator <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=9379>

" Nutrition is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

[Guest guest]

,

I fully understand your frustration with government supported nutrition

programs,

but I work with lower income special needs children, and need to point out one

thing: the overweight/obesity issue is often not because parents are feeding

their kids

too large a volume of food and thus wasting money. It has to do with

decreased physical activity (sometimes due to it being unsafe to play

outside),

our love of video games,

lack of parental cooking skills,

the huge increase in convenience foods aimed at toddlers and young children

so that parents think that’s what they should be feeding their

children

(Blame Gerber.),

low nutrient-density foods being cheaper and fast foods being faster when

both parents work (if there are two parents),

our concept of proper portion sizes for children (and adults, too), and

often the lack of full grocery stores in many urban neighborhoods. “Corner

marketsâ€

carry no produce. I live in a suburb of a medium-size city but have

several

patients in the city. The “Southside†has NO grocery stores.

The “Eastside†has one.

Please note also that many of the overweight children come from homes that do

not

qualify for free or reduced price school meals. I have a granddaughter who is

one.

(Yes, I make suggestions, but there is only so much Grandma can say.)

This has become a societal issue in addition to one of individual parental

choice.

I wish I had a quick answer.

Ro

From: Digna Cassens

Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 12:28 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: RE: Child nutrition bill derailed

I'm with you.

From: mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com]

On Behalf Of

Rowell,

Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:46 AM

To: mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com'

Subject: RE: Child nutrition bill derailed

Good! I don't want to pay for those meals with my hard earned income. Their

parents can do that. And don't tell me they can't afford it then turn around

and complain about how fat kids are! You can't have it both ways. And don't

tell me the government programs will help them lose weight. It's never

worked before.. that would fit in the definition of insanity. You know...

expecting a different result. Shrink the government, not our incomes.

W. Rowell, RD, LN

Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT

Consultant Dietitian, Long Term Care

Certified LEAP Therapist

Child nutrition bill derailed

House Republicans have temporarily blocked legislation to feed school meals

to thousands more hungry children.

Republicans used a procedural maneuver Wednesday to try to amend the $4.5

billion bill, which would give more needy children the opportunity to eat

free lunches at school and make those lunches healthier. First lady

Obama has lobbied for the bill as part of her " Let's Move " campaign to

combat childhood obesity.

House Democrats said the GOP amendment, which would have required background

checks for child care workers, was an effort to kill the bill and delayed a

final vote on the legislation rather than vote on the amendment.

Because the nutrition bill is identical to legislation passed by the Senate

in August, passage would send it to the White House for President Barack

Obama's signature. If the bill were amended, it would be sent back to the

Senate with little time left in the legislative session.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md. said the House would hold separate

votes on Thursday on the amendment and the bill.

Republicans say the nutrition bill is too costly and an example of

government overreach.

" It's not about making our children healthy and active, " said Rep.

Kline, R-Minn., the top Republican on the House Education and Labor

Committee. " We all want to see our children healthy and active. This is

about spending and the role of government and the size of government - a

debate about whether we're listening to our constituents or not. "

Former Alaska Gov. Palin has also taken a swipe at the first lady's

campaign, bringing cookies to a speech at a Pennsylvania school last month

and calling the campaign a " school cookie ban debate " and " nanny state run

amok " on her Twitter feed.

The legislation would give the government the power to decide what kinds of

foods could be sold and what ingredients may be limited in school lunch

lines and vending machines.

The Agriculture Department would create the standards, which would likely

keep popular foods like hamburgers and pizza in school cafeterias but make

them healthier, using leaner meat or whole wheat crust, for example. Vending

machines could be stocked with less candy and fewer high-calorie drinks.

The bill would provide money to serve more than 20 million additional

after-school meals annually to children in all 50 states. Many of those

children now only receive after-school snacks. It would also increase the

number of children eligible for school meals programs by at least 115,000,

using Medicaid and census data to identify them.

The legislation would increase the amount of money schools are reimbursed by

6 cents a meal, a priority for schools that say they don't have the dollars

to feed needy kids.

(This version CORRECTS that Palin is a former, not current, Alaska

governor.)

LINK

here<http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jXlg4sewEO29T6Zz_IFA_

VV2XKJQ?docId=9bc7bb1a3798417ea70483eed01e2fa4>

--

Ortiz, MS, RD

*The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

Chocolate Calculator <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=9379>

" Nutrition is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

[Guest guest]

,

I fully understand your frustration with government supported nutrition

programs,

but I work with lower income special needs children, and need to point out one

thing: the overweight/obesity issue is often not because parents are feeding

their kids

too large a volume of food and thus wasting money. It has to do with

decreased physical activity (sometimes due to it being unsafe to play

outside),

our love of video games,

lack of parental cooking skills,

the huge increase in convenience foods aimed at toddlers and young children

so that parents think that’s what they should be feeding their

children

(Blame Gerber.),

low nutrient-density foods being cheaper and fast foods being faster when

both parents work (if there are two parents),

our concept of proper portion sizes for children (and adults, too), and

often the lack of full grocery stores in many urban neighborhoods. “Corner

marketsâ€

carry no produce. I live in a suburb of a medium-size city but have

several

patients in the city. The “Southside†has NO grocery stores.

The “Eastside†has one.

Please note also that many of the overweight children come from homes that do

not

qualify for free or reduced price school meals. I have a granddaughter who is

one.

(Yes, I make suggestions, but there is only so much Grandma can say.)

This has become a societal issue in addition to one of individual parental

choice.

I wish I had a quick answer.

Ro

From: Digna Cassens

Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 12:28 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: RE: Child nutrition bill derailed

I'm with you.

From: mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com]

On Behalf Of

Rowell,

Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:46 AM

To: mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com'

Subject: RE: Child nutrition bill derailed

Good! I don't want to pay for those meals with my hard earned income. Their

parents can do that. And don't tell me they can't afford it then turn around

and complain about how fat kids are! You can't have it both ways. And don't

tell me the government programs will help them lose weight. It's never

worked before.. that would fit in the definition of insanity. You know...

expecting a different result. Shrink the government, not our incomes.

W. Rowell, RD, LN

Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT

Consultant Dietitian, Long Term Care

Certified LEAP Therapist

Child nutrition bill derailed

House Republicans have temporarily blocked legislation to feed school meals

to thousands more hungry children.

Republicans used a procedural maneuver Wednesday to try to amend the $4.5

billion bill, which would give more needy children the opportunity to eat

free lunches at school and make those lunches healthier. First lady

Obama has lobbied for the bill as part of her " Let's Move " campaign to

combat childhood obesity.

House Democrats said the GOP amendment, which would have required background

checks for child care workers, was an effort to kill the bill and delayed a

final vote on the legislation rather than vote on the amendment.

Because the nutrition bill is identical to legislation passed by the Senate

in August, passage would send it to the White House for President Barack

Obama's signature. If the bill were amended, it would be sent back to the

Senate with little time left in the legislative session.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md. said the House would hold separate

votes on Thursday on the amendment and the bill.

Republicans say the nutrition bill is too costly and an example of

government overreach.

" It's not about making our children healthy and active, " said Rep.

Kline, R-Minn., the top Republican on the House Education and Labor

Committee. " We all want to see our children healthy and active. This is

about spending and the role of government and the size of government - a

debate about whether we're listening to our constituents or not. "

Former Alaska Gov. Palin has also taken a swipe at the first lady's

campaign, bringing cookies to a speech at a Pennsylvania school last month

and calling the campaign a " school cookie ban debate " and " nanny state run

amok " on her Twitter feed.

The legislation would give the government the power to decide what kinds of

foods could be sold and what ingredients may be limited in school lunch

lines and vending machines.

The Agriculture Department would create the standards, which would likely

keep popular foods like hamburgers and pizza in school cafeterias but make

them healthier, using leaner meat or whole wheat crust, for example. Vending

machines could be stocked with less candy and fewer high-calorie drinks.

The bill would provide money to serve more than 20 million additional

after-school meals annually to children in all 50 states. Many of those

children now only receive after-school snacks. It would also increase the

number of children eligible for school meals programs by at least 115,000,

using Medicaid and census data to identify them.

The legislation would increase the amount of money schools are reimbursed by

6 cents a meal, a priority for schools that say they don't have the dollars

to feed needy kids.

(This version CORRECTS that Palin is a former, not current, Alaska

governor.)

LINK

here<http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jXlg4sewEO29T6Zz_IFA_

VV2XKJQ?docId=9bc7bb1a3798417ea70483eed01e2fa4>

--

Ortiz, MS, RD

*The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

Chocolate Calculator <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=9379>

" Nutrition is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

[Guest guest]

,

I fully understand your frustration with government supported nutrition

programs,

but I work with lower income special needs children, and need to point out one

thing: the overweight/obesity issue is often not because parents are feeding

their kids

too large a volume of food and thus wasting money. It has to do with

decreased physical activity (sometimes due to it being unsafe to play

outside),

our love of video games,

lack of parental cooking skills,

the huge increase in convenience foods aimed at toddlers and young children

so that parents think that’s what they should be feeding their

children

(Blame Gerber.),

low nutrient-density foods being cheaper and fast foods being faster when

both parents work (if there are two parents),

our concept of proper portion sizes for children (and adults, too), and

often the lack of full grocery stores in many urban neighborhoods. “Corner

marketsâ€

carry no produce. I live in a suburb of a medium-size city but have

several

patients in the city. The “Southside†has NO grocery stores.

The “Eastside†has one.

Please note also that many of the overweight children come from homes that do

not

qualify for free or reduced price school meals. I have a granddaughter who is

one.

(Yes, I make suggestions, but there is only so much Grandma can say.)

This has become a societal issue in addition to one of individual parental

choice.

I wish I had a quick answer.

Ro

From: Digna Cassens

Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 12:28 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: RE: Child nutrition bill derailed

I'm with you.

From: mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com]

On Behalf Of

Rowell,

Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:46 AM

To: mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com'

Subject: RE: Child nutrition bill derailed

Good! I don't want to pay for those meals with my hard earned income. Their

parents can do that. And don't tell me they can't afford it then turn around

and complain about how fat kids are! You can't have it both ways. And don't

tell me the government programs will help them lose weight. It's never

worked before.. that would fit in the definition of insanity. You know...

expecting a different result. Shrink the government, not our incomes.

W. Rowell, RD, LN

Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT

Consultant Dietitian, Long Term Care

Certified LEAP Therapist

Child nutrition bill derailed

House Republicans have temporarily blocked legislation to feed school meals

to thousands more hungry children.

Republicans used a procedural maneuver Wednesday to try to amend the $4.5

billion bill, which would give more needy children the opportunity to eat

free lunches at school and make those lunches healthier. First lady

Obama has lobbied for the bill as part of her " Let's Move " campaign to

combat childhood obesity.

House Democrats said the GOP amendment, which would have required background

checks for child care workers, was an effort to kill the bill and delayed a

final vote on the legislation rather than vote on the amendment.

Because the nutrition bill is identical to legislation passed by the Senate

in August, passage would send it to the White House for President Barack

Obama's signature. If the bill were amended, it would be sent back to the

Senate with little time left in the legislative session.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md. said the House would hold separate

votes on Thursday on the amendment and the bill.

Republicans say the nutrition bill is too costly and an example of

government overreach.

" It's not about making our children healthy and active, " said Rep.

Kline, R-Minn., the top Republican on the House Education and Labor

Committee. " We all want to see our children healthy and active. This is

about spending and the role of government and the size of government - a

debate about whether we're listening to our constituents or not. "

Former Alaska Gov. Palin has also taken a swipe at the first lady's

campaign, bringing cookies to a speech at a Pennsylvania school last month

and calling the campaign a " school cookie ban debate " and " nanny state run

amok " on her Twitter feed.

The legislation would give the government the power to decide what kinds of

foods could be sold and what ingredients may be limited in school lunch

lines and vending machines.

The Agriculture Department would create the standards, which would likely

keep popular foods like hamburgers and pizza in school cafeterias but make

them healthier, using leaner meat or whole wheat crust, for example. Vending

machines could be stocked with less candy and fewer high-calorie drinks.

The bill would provide money to serve more than 20 million additional

after-school meals annually to children in all 50 states. Many of those

children now only receive after-school snacks. It would also increase the

number of children eligible for school meals programs by at least 115,000,

using Medicaid and census data to identify them.

The legislation would increase the amount of money schools are reimbursed by

6 cents a meal, a priority for schools that say they don't have the dollars

to feed needy kids.

(This version CORRECTS that Palin is a former, not current, Alaska

governor.)

LINK

here<http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jXlg4sewEO29T6Zz_IFA_

VV2XKJQ?docId=9bc7bb1a3798417ea70483eed01e2fa4>

--

Ortiz, MS, RD

*The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

Chocolate Calculator <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=9379>

" Nutrition is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

[Guest guest]

I just wanted to add to what said below.  I too, am not in favor of

government waste and spending. However, I live in an area where 50% of the new

cases of type 2 diabetes are diagnosed in children.  It has economicially

affected the non for profit HMO I used to work for so much, that they are

now funding school programs in the community to try and combat childhood

obesity.  These kids are obese for all of the reasons stated below. No

matter who is to blame,  I truly believe we can either pay now, or pay dearly

later when we have a very large population of young adults that are too sick

with obesity related chronic conditions to enter the workforce.  Who do you

think will be paying for the healthcare to treat this group, and for their

disability? Just a thought..

Subject: Re: Child nutrition bill derailed

To: rd-usa

Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 4:04 AM

 

,

I fully understand your frustration with government supported nutrition

programs,

but I work with lower income special needs children, and need to point out one

thing: the overweight/obesity issue is often not because parents are feeding

their kids

too large a volume of food and thus wasting money. It has to do with

decreased physical activity (sometimes due to it being unsafe to play outside),

our love of video games,

lack of parental cooking skills,

the huge increase in convenience foods aimed at toddlers and young children

so that parents think that’s what they should be feeding their children

(Blame Gerber.),

low nutrient-density foods being cheaper and fast foods being faster when

both parents work (if there are two parents),

our concept of proper portion sizes for children (and adults, too), and

often the lack of full grocery stores in many urban neighborhoods. “Corner

marketsâ€

carry no produce. I live in a suburb of a medium-size city but have several

patients in the city. The “Southside†has NO grocery stores. The

“Eastside†has one.

Please note also that many of the overweight children come from homes that do

not

qualify for free or reduced price school meals. I have a granddaughter who is

one.

(Yes, I make suggestions, but there is only so much Grandma can say.)

This has become a societal issue in addition to one of individual parental

choice.

I wish I had a quick answer.

Ro

From: Digna Cassens

Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 12:28 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: RE: Child nutrition bill derailed

I'm with you.

From: mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com]

On Behalf Of

Rowell,

Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:46 AM

To: mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com'

Subject: RE: Child nutrition bill derailed

Good! I don't want to pay for those meals with my hard earned income. Their

parents can do that. And don't tell me they can't afford it then turn around

and complain about how fat kids are! You can't have it both ways. And don't

tell me the government programs will help them lose weight. It's never

worked before.. that would fit in the definition of insanity. You know...

expecting a different result. Shrink the government, not our incomes.

W. Rowell, RD, LN

Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT

Consultant Dietitian, Long Term Care

Certified LEAP Therapist

Child nutrition bill derailed

House Republicans have temporarily blocked legislation to feed school meals

to thousands more hungry children.

Republicans used a procedural maneuver Wednesday to try to amend the $4.5

billion bill, which would give more needy children the opportunity to eat

free lunches at school and make those lunches healthier. First lady

Obama has lobbied for the bill as part of her " Let's Move " campaign to

combat childhood obesity.

House Democrats said the GOP amendment, which would have required background

checks for child care workers, was an effort to kill the bill and delayed a

final vote on the legislation rather than vote on the amendment.

Because the nutrition bill is identical to legislation passed by the Senate

in August, passage would send it to the White House for President Barack

Obama's signature. If the bill were amended, it would be sent back to the

Senate with little time left in the legislative session.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md. said the House would hold separate

votes on Thursday on the amendment and the bill.

Republicans say the nutrition bill is too costly and an example of

government overreach.

" It's not about making our children healthy and active, " said Rep.

Kline, R-Minn., the top Republican on the House Education and Labor

Committee. " We all want to see our children healthy and active. This is

about spending and the role of government and the size of government - a

debate about whether we're listening to our constituents or not. "

Former Alaska Gov. Palin has also taken a swipe at the first lady's

campaign, bringing cookies to a speech at a Pennsylvania school last month

and calling the campaign a " school cookie ban debate " and " nanny state run

amok " on her Twitter feed.

The legislation would give the government the power to decide what kinds of

foods could be sold and what ingredients may be limited in school lunch

lines and vending machines.

The Agriculture Department would create the standards, which would likely

keep popular foods like hamburgers and pizza in school cafeterias but make

them healthier, using leaner meat or whole wheat crust, for example. Vending

machines could be stocked with less candy and fewer high-calorie drinks.

The bill would provide money to serve more than 20 million additional

after-school meals annually to children in all 50 states. Many of those

children now only receive after-school snacks. It would also increase the

number of children eligible for school meals programs by at least 115,000,

using Medicaid and census data to identify them.

The legislation would increase the amount of money schools are reimbursed by

6 cents a meal, a priority for schools that say they don't have the dollars

to feed needy kids.

(This version CORRECTS that Palin is a former, not current, Alaska

governor.)

LINK

here<http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jXlg4sewEO29T6Zz_IFA_

VV2XKJQ?docId=9bc7bb1a3798417ea70483eed01e2fa4>

--

Ortiz, MS, RD

*The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

Chocolate Calculator <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=9379>

" Nutrition is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

[Guest guest]

I just wanted to add to what said below.  I too, am not in favor of

government waste and spending. However, I live in an area where 50% of the new

cases of type 2 diabetes are diagnosed in children.  It has economicially

affected the non for profit HMO I used to work for so much, that they are

now funding school programs in the community to try and combat childhood

obesity.  These kids are obese for all of the reasons stated below. No

matter who is to blame,  I truly believe we can either pay now, or pay dearly

later when we have a very large population of young adults that are too sick

with obesity related chronic conditions to enter the workforce.  Who do you

think will be paying for the healthcare to treat this group, and for their

disability? Just a thought..

Subject: Re: Child nutrition bill derailed

To: rd-usa

Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 4:04 AM

 

,

I fully understand your frustration with government supported nutrition

programs,

but I work with lower income special needs children, and need to point out one

thing: the overweight/obesity issue is often not because parents are feeding

their kids

too large a volume of food and thus wasting money. It has to do with

decreased physical activity (sometimes due to it being unsafe to play outside),

our love of video games,

lack of parental cooking skills,

the huge increase in convenience foods aimed at toddlers and young children

so that parents think that’s what they should be feeding their children

(Blame Gerber.),

low nutrient-density foods being cheaper and fast foods being faster when

both parents work (if there are two parents),

our concept of proper portion sizes for children (and adults, too), and

often the lack of full grocery stores in many urban neighborhoods. “Corner

marketsâ€

carry no produce. I live in a suburb of a medium-size city but have several

patients in the city. The “Southside†has NO grocery stores. The

“Eastside†has one.

Please note also that many of the overweight children come from homes that do

not

qualify for free or reduced price school meals. I have a granddaughter who is

one.

(Yes, I make suggestions, but there is only so much Grandma can say.)

This has become a societal issue in addition to one of individual parental

choice.

I wish I had a quick answer.

Ro

From: Digna Cassens

Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 12:28 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: RE: Child nutrition bill derailed

I'm with you.

From: mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com]

On Behalf Of

Rowell,

Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:46 AM

To: mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com'

Subject: RE: Child nutrition bill derailed

Good! I don't want to pay for those meals with my hard earned income. Their

parents can do that. And don't tell me they can't afford it then turn around

and complain about how fat kids are! You can't have it both ways. And don't

tell me the government programs will help them lose weight. It's never

worked before.. that would fit in the definition of insanity. You know...

expecting a different result. Shrink the government, not our incomes.

W. Rowell, RD, LN

Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT

Consultant Dietitian, Long Term Care

Certified LEAP Therapist

Child nutrition bill derailed

House Republicans have temporarily blocked legislation to feed school meals

to thousands more hungry children.

Republicans used a procedural maneuver Wednesday to try to amend the $4.5

billion bill, which would give more needy children the opportunity to eat

free lunches at school and make those lunches healthier. First lady

Obama has lobbied for the bill as part of her " Let's Move " campaign to

combat childhood obesity.

House Democrats said the GOP amendment, which would have required background

checks for child care workers, was an effort to kill the bill and delayed a

final vote on the legislation rather than vote on the amendment.

Because the nutrition bill is identical to legislation passed by the Senate

in August, passage would send it to the White House for President Barack

Obama's signature. If the bill were amended, it would be sent back to the

Senate with little time left in the legislative session.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md. said the House would hold separate

votes on Thursday on the amendment and the bill.

Republicans say the nutrition bill is too costly and an example of

government overreach.

" It's not about making our children healthy and active, " said Rep.

Kline, R-Minn., the top Republican on the House Education and Labor

Committee. " We all want to see our children healthy and active. This is

about spending and the role of government and the size of government - a

debate about whether we're listening to our constituents or not. "

Former Alaska Gov. Palin has also taken a swipe at the first lady's

campaign, bringing cookies to a speech at a Pennsylvania school last month

and calling the campaign a " school cookie ban debate " and " nanny state run

amok " on her Twitter feed.

The legislation would give the government the power to decide what kinds of

foods could be sold and what ingredients may be limited in school lunch

lines and vending machines.

The Agriculture Department would create the standards, which would likely

keep popular foods like hamburgers and pizza in school cafeterias but make

them healthier, using leaner meat or whole wheat crust, for example. Vending

machines could be stocked with less candy and fewer high-calorie drinks.

The bill would provide money to serve more than 20 million additional

after-school meals annually to children in all 50 states. Many of those

children now only receive after-school snacks. It would also increase the

number of children eligible for school meals programs by at least 115,000,

using Medicaid and census data to identify them.

The legislation would increase the amount of money schools are reimbursed by

6 cents a meal, a priority for schools that say they don't have the dollars

to feed needy kids.

(This version CORRECTS that Palin is a former, not current, Alaska

governor.)

LINK

here<http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jXlg4sewEO29T6Zz_IFA_

VV2XKJQ?docId=9bc7bb1a3798417ea70483eed01e2fa4>

--

Ortiz, MS, RD

*The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

Chocolate Calculator <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=9379>

" Nutrition is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

[Guest guest]

I just wanted to add to what said below.  I too, am not in favor of

government waste and spending. However, I live in an area where 50% of the new

cases of type 2 diabetes are diagnosed in children.  It has economicially

affected the non for profit HMO I used to work for so much, that they are

now funding school programs in the community to try and combat childhood

obesity.  These kids are obese for all of the reasons stated below. No

matter who is to blame,  I truly believe we can either pay now, or pay dearly

later when we have a very large population of young adults that are too sick

with obesity related chronic conditions to enter the workforce.  Who do you

think will be paying for the healthcare to treat this group, and for their

disability? Just a thought..

Subject: Re: Child nutrition bill derailed

To: rd-usa

Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 4:04 AM

 

,

I fully understand your frustration with government supported nutrition

programs,

but I work with lower income special needs children, and need to point out one

thing: the overweight/obesity issue is often not because parents are feeding

their kids

too large a volume of food and thus wasting money. It has to do with

decreased physical activity (sometimes due to it being unsafe to play outside),

our love of video games,

lack of parental cooking skills,

the huge increase in convenience foods aimed at toddlers and young children

so that parents think that’s what they should be feeding their children

(Blame Gerber.),

low nutrient-density foods being cheaper and fast foods being faster when

both parents work (if there are two parents),

our concept of proper portion sizes for children (and adults, too), and

often the lack of full grocery stores in many urban neighborhoods. “Corner

marketsâ€

carry no produce. I live in a suburb of a medium-size city but have several

patients in the city. The “Southside†has NO grocery stores. The

“Eastside†has one.

Please note also that many of the overweight children come from homes that do

not

qualify for free or reduced price school meals. I have a granddaughter who is

one.

(Yes, I make suggestions, but there is only so much Grandma can say.)

This has become a societal issue in addition to one of individual parental

choice.

I wish I had a quick answer.

Ro

From: Digna Cassens

Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 12:28 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: RE: Child nutrition bill derailed

I'm with you.

From: mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com]

On Behalf Of

Rowell,

Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:46 AM

To: mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com'

Subject: RE: Child nutrition bill derailed

Good! I don't want to pay for those meals with my hard earned income. Their

parents can do that. And don't tell me they can't afford it then turn around

and complain about how fat kids are! You can't have it both ways. And don't

tell me the government programs will help them lose weight. It's never

worked before.. that would fit in the definition of insanity. You know...

expecting a different result. Shrink the government, not our incomes.

W. Rowell, RD, LN

Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT

Consultant Dietitian, Long Term Care

Certified LEAP Therapist

Child nutrition bill derailed

House Republicans have temporarily blocked legislation to feed school meals

to thousands more hungry children.

Republicans used a procedural maneuver Wednesday to try to amend the $4.5

billion bill, which would give more needy children the opportunity to eat

free lunches at school and make those lunches healthier. First lady

Obama has lobbied for the bill as part of her " Let's Move " campaign to

combat childhood obesity.

House Democrats said the GOP amendment, which would have required background

checks for child care workers, was an effort to kill the bill and delayed a

final vote on the legislation rather than vote on the amendment.

Because the nutrition bill is identical to legislation passed by the Senate

in August, passage would send it to the White House for President Barack

Obama's signature. If the bill were amended, it would be sent back to the

Senate with little time left in the legislative session.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md. said the House would hold separate

votes on Thursday on the amendment and the bill.

Republicans say the nutrition bill is too costly and an example of

government overreach.

" It's not about making our children healthy and active, " said Rep.

Kline, R-Minn., the top Republican on the House Education and Labor

Committee. " We all want to see our children healthy and active. This is

about spending and the role of government and the size of government - a

debate about whether we're listening to our constituents or not. "

Former Alaska Gov. Palin has also taken a swipe at the first lady's

campaign, bringing cookies to a speech at a Pennsylvania school last month

and calling the campaign a " school cookie ban debate " and " nanny state run

amok " on her Twitter feed.

The legislation would give the government the power to decide what kinds of

foods could be sold and what ingredients may be limited in school lunch

lines and vending machines.

The Agriculture Department would create the standards, which would likely

keep popular foods like hamburgers and pizza in school cafeterias but make

them healthier, using leaner meat or whole wheat crust, for example. Vending

machines could be stocked with less candy and fewer high-calorie drinks.

The bill would provide money to serve more than 20 million additional

after-school meals annually to children in all 50 states. Many of those

children now only receive after-school snacks. It would also increase the

number of children eligible for school meals programs by at least 115,000,

using Medicaid and census data to identify them.

The legislation would increase the amount of money schools are reimbursed by

6 cents a meal, a priority for schools that say they don't have the dollars

to feed needy kids.

(This version CORRECTS that Palin is a former, not current, Alaska

governor.)

LINK

here<http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jXlg4sewEO29T6Zz_IFA_

VV2XKJQ?docId=9bc7bb1a3798417ea70483eed01e2fa4>

--

Ortiz, MS, RD

*The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

Chocolate Calculator <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=9379>

" Nutrition is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

[Guest guest]

I understand all you both have written below. The talking points are all there,

and most are probably accurate. But school food programs will NOT curb obesity.

Never has, never will. Convenience foods are very expensive. They CAN afford

cheaper, healthier foods instead, including canned veggies at the local

convenience store instead of “burritos†and fried tater tots, etc. The cost

per pound of convenience foods is very high. It’s ignorance of the facts,

misinformation and lack of motivation to change eating habits that cause much

obesity in children and adults. Letting the government take over the

responsibility of feeding children won’t change it. More crummy snack foods

will simply become even MORE affordable by families who get the “freeâ€

school foods ride. TV time every night will still include all the garbage that I

like to eat on rare occasion, like my potato chips and onion dip last night!

None of what is detailed below justifies taking from me and other hard-working

Americans to feed someone else’s kids. It won’t save money down the road in

health care. That’s just wishful thinking. Never has, never will.

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of

Gilpin

Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 8:36 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: Re: Child nutrition bill derailed

I just wanted to add to what said below. I too, am not in favor of

government waste and spending. However, I live in an area where 50% of the new

cases of type 2 diabetes are diagnosed in children. It has economicially

affected the non for profit HMO I used to work for so much, that they are now

funding school programs in the community to try and combat childhood obesity.

These kids are obese for all of the reasons stated below. No matter who is

to blame, I truly believe we can either pay now, or pay dearly later when we

have a very large population of young adults that are too sick with obesity

related chronic conditions to enter the workforce. Who do you think will be

paying for the healthcare to treat this group, and for their disability? Just a

thought..

From: Ro <lindarord@...<mailto:lindarord%40att.net>>

Subject: Re: Child nutrition bill derailed

To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 4:04 AM

,

I fully understand your frustration with government supported nutrition

programs,

but I work with lower income special needs children, and need to point out one

thing: the overweight/obesity issue is often not because parents are feeding

their kids

too large a volume of food and thus wasting money. It has to do with

decreased physical activity (sometimes due to it being unsafe to play outside),

our love of video games,

lack of parental cooking skills,

the huge increase in convenience foods aimed at toddlers and young children

so that parents think that’s what they should be feeding their children

(Blame Gerber.),

low nutrient-density foods being cheaper and fast foods being faster when

both parents work (if there are two parents),

our concept of proper portion sizes for children (and adults, too), and

often the lack of full grocery stores in many urban neighborhoods. “Corner

marketsâ€

carry no produce. I live in a suburb of a medium-size city but have several

patients in the city. The “Southside†has NO grocery stores. The

“Eastside†has one.

Please note also that many of the overweight children come from homes that do

not

qualify for free or reduced price school meals. I have a granddaughter who is

one.

(Yes, I make suggestions, but there is only so much Grandma can say.)

This has become a societal issue in addition to one of individual parental

choice.

I wish I had a quick answer.

Ro

From: Digna Cassens

Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 12:28 AM

To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

Subject: RE: Child nutrition bill derailed

I'm with you.

From: mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com]

On Behalf Of

Rowell,

Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:46 AM

To: mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com'

Subject: RE: Child nutrition bill derailed

Good! I don't want to pay for those meals with my hard earned income. Their

parents can do that. And don't tell me they can't afford it then turn around

and complain about how fat kids are! You can't have it both ways. And don't

tell me the government programs will help them lose weight. It's never

worked before.. that would fit in the definition of insanity. You know...

expecting a different result. Shrink the government, not our incomes.

W. Rowell, RD, LN

Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT

Consultant Dietitian, Long Term Care

Certified LEAP Therapist

Child nutrition bill derailed

House Republicans have temporarily blocked legislation to feed school meals

to thousands more hungry children.

Republicans used a procedural maneuver Wednesday to try to amend the $4.5

billion bill, which would give more needy children the opportunity to eat

free lunches at school and make those lunches healthier. First lady

Obama has lobbied for the bill as part of her " Let's Move " campaign to

combat childhood obesity.

House Democrats said the GOP amendment, which would have required background

checks for child care workers, was an effort to kill the bill and delayed a

final vote on the legislation rather than vote on the amendment.

Because the nutrition bill is identical to legislation passed by the Senate

in August, passage would send it to the White House for President Barack

Obama's signature. If the bill were amended, it would be sent back to the

Senate with little time left in the legislative session.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md. said the House would hold separate

votes on Thursday on the amendment and the bill.

Republicans say the nutrition bill is too costly and an example of

government overreach.

" It's not about making our children healthy and active, " said Rep.

Kline, R-Minn., the top Republican on the House Education and Labor

Committee. " We all want to see our children healthy and active. This is

about spending and the role of government and the size of government - a

debate about whether we're listening to our constituents or not. "

Former Alaska Gov. Palin has also taken a swipe at the first lady's

campaign, bringing cookies to a speech at a Pennsylvania school last month

and calling the campaign a " school cookie ban debate " and " nanny state run

amok " on her Twitter feed.

The legislation would give the government the power to decide what kinds of

foods could be sold and what ingredients may be limited in school lunch

lines and vending machines.

The Agriculture Department would create the standards, which would likely

keep popular foods like hamburgers and pizza in school cafeterias but make

them healthier, using leaner meat or whole wheat crust, for example. Vending

machines could be stocked with less candy and fewer high-calorie drinks.

The bill would provide money to serve more than 20 million additional

after-school meals annually to children in all 50 states. Many of those

children now only receive after-school snacks. It would also increase the

number of children eligible for school meals programs by at least 115,000,

using Medicaid and census data to identify them.

The legislation would increase the amount of money schools are reimbursed by

6 cents a meal, a priority for schools that say they don't have the dollars

to feed needy kids.

(This version CORRECTS that Palin is a former, not current, Alaska

governor.)

LINK

here<http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jXlg4sewEO29T6Zz_IFA_

VV2XKJQ?docId=9bc7bb1a3798417ea70483eed01e2fa4>

--

Ortiz, MS, RD

*The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

Chocolate Calculator <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=9379>

" Nutrition is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

[Guest guest]

I understand your frustration.  However, I might add that some of the programs

our local HMO has started have been very successful at making changes, not just

with the kids, but with their families as well. You can call the parents stupid

and ignorant,( I don't think they are), but when you give them the right tools

to make changes, many do. If you are asking a family to change their habits at

home and the school is serving a platter of junk, it definitely derails a lot of

what you are trying to teach.

 

From: Ro <lindarord@...<mailto:lindarord%40att.net>>

Subject: Re: Child nutrition bill derailed

To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 4:04 AM

,

I fully understand your frustration with government supported nutrition

programs,

but I work with lower income special needs children, and need to point out one

thing: the overweight/obesity issue is often not because parents are feeding

their kids

too large a volume of food and thus wasting money. It has to do with

decreased physical activity (sometimes due to it being unsafe to play outside),

our love of video games,

lack of parental cooking skills,

the huge increase in convenience foods aimed at toddlers and young children

so that parents think that’s what they should be feeding their children

(Blame Gerber.),

low nutrient-density foods being cheaper and fast foods being faster when

both parents work (if there are two parents),

our concept of proper portion sizes for children (and adults, too), and

often the lack of full grocery stores in many urban neighborhoods. “Corner

marketsâ€

carry no produce. I live in a suburb of a medium-size city but have several

patients in the city. The “Southside†has NO grocery stores. The

“Eastside†has one.

Please note also that many of the overweight children come from homes that do

not

qualify for free or reduced price school meals. I have a granddaughter who is

one.

(Yes, I make suggestions, but there is only so much Grandma can say.)

This has become a societal issue in addition to one of individual parental

choice.

I wish I had a quick answer.

Ro

From: Digna Cassens

Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 12:28 AM

To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

Subject: RE: Child nutrition bill derailed

I'm with you.

From: mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com]

On Behalf Of

Rowell,

Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:46 AM

To: mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com'

Subject: RE: Child nutrition bill derailed

Good! I don't want to pay for those meals with my hard earned income. Their

parents can do that. And don't tell me they can't afford it then turn around

and complain about how fat kids are! You can't have it both ways. And don't

tell me the government programs will help them lose weight. It's never

worked before.. that would fit in the definition of insanity. You know...

expecting a different result. Shrink the government, not our incomes.

W. Rowell, RD, LN

Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT

Consultant Dietitian, Long Term Care

Certified LEAP Therapist

Child nutrition bill derailed

House Republicans have temporarily blocked legislation to feed school meals

to thousands more hungry children.

Republicans used a procedural maneuver Wednesday to try to amend the $4.5

billion bill, which would give more needy children the opportunity to eat

free lunches at school and make those lunches healthier. First lady

Obama has lobbied for the bill as part of her " Let's Move " campaign to

combat childhood obesity.

House Democrats said the GOP amendment, which would have required background

checks for child care workers, was an effort to kill the bill and delayed a

final vote on the legislation rather than vote on the amendment.

Because the nutrition bill is identical to legislation passed by the Senate

in August, passage would send it to the White House for President Barack

Obama's signature. If the bill were amended, it would be sent back to the

Senate with little time left in the legislative session.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md. said the House would hold separate

votes on Thursday on the amendment and the bill.

Republicans say the nutrition bill is too costly and an example of

government overreach.

" It's not about making our children healthy and active, " said Rep.

Kline, R-Minn., the top Republican on the House Education and Labor

Committee. " We all want to see our children healthy and active. This is

about spending and the role of government and the size of government - a

debate about whether we're listening to our constituents or not. "

Former Alaska Gov. Palin has also taken a swipe at the first lady's

campaign, bringing cookies to a speech at a Pennsylvania school last month

and calling the campaign a " school cookie ban debate " and " nanny state run

amok " on her Twitter feed.

The legislation would give the government the power to decide what kinds of

foods could be sold and what ingredients may be limited in school lunch

lines and vending machines.

The Agriculture Department would create the standards, which would likely

keep popular foods like hamburgers and pizza in school cafeterias but make

them healthier, using leaner meat or whole wheat crust, for example. Vending

machines could be stocked with less candy and fewer high-calorie drinks.

The bill would provide money to serve more than 20 million additional

after-school meals annually to children in all 50 states. Many of those

children now only receive after-school snacks. It would also increase the

number of children eligible for school meals programs by at least 115,000,

using Medicaid and census data to identify them.

The legislation would increase the amount of money schools are reimbursed by

6 cents a meal, a priority for schools that say they don't have the dollars

to feed needy kids.

(This version CORRECTS that Palin is a former, not current, Alaska

governor.)

LINK

here<http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jXlg4sewEO29T6Zz_IFA_

VV2XKJQ?docId=9bc7bb1a3798417ea70483eed01e2fa4>

--

Ortiz, MS, RD

*The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

Chocolate Calculator <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=9379>

" Nutrition is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

[Guest guest]

Ignorance does not mean stupid and I don’t think most people are stupid.

Ignorance is lack of knowledge. That’s OUR challenge to correct. I agree with

you. I’m not so impressed with school foods I have seen, though. I have worked

as a CACFP nutritionist, but then that was several years ago. HMO efforts are

not necessarily government intervention and that has merit. I’m all for

private sector involvement, as long as the government stays out of it. That Long

Arm has been very ineffective throughout history. That won’t change now.

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of

Gilpin

Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 9:16 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: RE: Child nutrition bill derailed

I understand your frustration. However, I might add that some of the programs

our local HMO has started have been very successful at making changes, not just

with the kids, but with their families as well. You can call the parents stupid

and ignorant,( I don't think they are), but when you give them the right tools

to make changes, many do. If you are asking a family to change their habits at

home and the school is serving a platter of junk, it definitely derails a lot of

what you are trying to teach.

From: Ro

<lindarord@...<mailto:lindarord%40att.net><mailto:lindarord%40att.net>>

Subject: Re: Child nutrition bill derailed

To:

rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\

ups.com>

Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 4:04 AM

,

I fully understand your frustration with government supported nutrition

programs,

but I work with lower income special needs children, and need to point out one

thing: the overweight/obesity issue is often not because parents are feeding

their kids

too large a volume of food and thus wasting money. It has to do with

decreased physical activity (sometimes due to it being unsafe to play outside),

our love of video games,

lack of parental cooking skills,

the huge increase in convenience foods aimed at toddlers and young children

so that parents think that’s what they should be feeding their children

(Blame Gerber.),

low nutrient-density foods being cheaper and fast foods being faster when

both parents work (if there are two parents),

our concept of proper portion sizes for children (and adults, too), and

often the lack of full grocery stores in many urban neighborhoods. “Corner

marketsâ€

carry no produce. I live in a suburb of a medium-size city but have several

patients in the city. The “Southside†has NO grocery stores. The

“Eastside†has one.

Please note also that many of the overweight children come from homes that do

not

qualify for free or reduced price school meals. I have a granddaughter who is

one.

(Yes, I make suggestions, but there is only so much Grandma can say.)

This has become a societal issue in addition to one of individual parental

choice.

I wish I had a quick answer.

Ro

From: Digna Cassens

Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 12:28 AM

To:

rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\

ups.com>

Subject: RE: Child nutrition bill derailed

I'm with you.

From: mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com]

On Behalf Of

Rowell,

Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:46 AM

To: mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com'

Subject: RE: Child nutrition bill derailed

Good! I don't want to pay for those meals with my hard earned income. Their

parents can do that. And don't tell me they can't afford it then turn around

and complain about how fat kids are! You can't have it both ways. And don't

tell me the government programs will help them lose weight. It's never

worked before.. that would fit in the definition of insanity. You know...

expecting a different result. Shrink the government, not our incomes.

W. Rowell, RD, LN

Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT

Consultant Dietitian, Long Term Care

Certified LEAP Therapist

Child nutrition bill derailed

House Republicans have temporarily blocked legislation to feed school meals

to thousands more hungry children.

Republicans used a procedural maneuver Wednesday to try to amend the $4.5

billion bill, which would give more needy children the opportunity to eat

free lunches at school and make those lunches healthier. First lady

Obama has lobbied for the bill as part of her " Let's Move " campaign to

combat childhood obesity.

House Democrats said the GOP amendment, which would have required background

checks for child care workers, was an effort to kill the bill and delayed a

final vote on the legislation rather than vote on the amendment.

Because the nutrition bill is identical to legislation passed by the Senate

in August, passage would send it to the White House for President Barack

Obama's signature. If the bill were amended, it would be sent back to the

Senate with little time left in the legislative session.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md. said the House would hold separate

votes on Thursday on the amendment and the bill.

Republicans say the nutrition bill is too costly and an example of

government overreach.

" It's not about making our children healthy and active, " said Rep.

Kline, R-Minn., the top Republican on the House Education and Labor

Committee. " We all want to see our children healthy and active. This is

about spending and the role of government and the size of government - a

debate about whether we're listening to our constituents or not. "

Former Alaska Gov. Palin has also taken a swipe at the first lady's

campaign, bringing cookies to a speech at a Pennsylvania school last month

and calling the campaign a " school cookie ban debate " and " nanny state run

amok " on her Twitter feed.

The legislation would give the government the power to decide what kinds of

foods could be sold and what ingredients may be limited in school lunch

lines and vending machines.

The Agriculture Department would create the standards, which would likely

keep popular foods like hamburgers and pizza in school cafeterias but make

them healthier, using leaner meat or whole wheat crust, for example. Vending

machines could be stocked with less candy and fewer high-calorie drinks.

The bill would provide money to serve more than 20 million additional

after-school meals annually to children in all 50 states. Many of those

children now only receive after-school snacks. It would also increase the

number of children eligible for school meals programs by at least 115,000,

using Medicaid and census data to identify them.

The legislation would increase the amount of money schools are reimbursed by

6 cents a meal, a priority for schools that say they don't have the dollars

to feed needy kids.

(This version CORRECTS that Palin is a former, not current, Alaska

governor.)

LINK

here<http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jXlg4sewEO29T6Zz_IFA_

VV2XKJQ?docId=9bc7bb1a3798417ea70483eed01e2fa4>

--

Ortiz, MS, RD

*The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

Chocolate Calculator <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=9379>

" Nutrition is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

[Guest guest]

et al,

I fully concur with your comments. Frustration with a bloated,

overgrown system does not give us the right to punish children. There

are school systems where over half of the student body qualifies for

school lunch. There is much research demonstrating the economic

difficulties faced by those who live below the poverty level. Asking

someone who is fighting a good long fight every single day to simply

survive, pay the rent, keep a roof over the head to spend an hour on

the bus (if the bus arrives) to buy a can of vegetables is probably

not the answer. As nutrition scientists first and foremost, we know

that children cannot learn unless they are well-nourished. A visit to

my local food bank not too long ago revealed shelves that contained

jello and some canned spaghetti.

I would love to make changes to the school lunch program. Those who

administer the program would love to make changes. Let's get the

funding set and then use our expertise to make the changes in a safe,

cost-efficient manner. Remember, to not support this much needed

program is to not support jobs for fellow RDs.

Regards,

pam

Pam Charney, PhD, RD

Affiliate Associate Professor

Pharmacy

MS Student

Clinical Informatics and Patient Centered Technology

School of Nursing

University of Washington

Seattle, WA

pcharney@...

http://www.linkedin.com/in/pamcharney

> I understand your frustration. However, I might add that some of

> the programs our local HMO has started have been very successful at

> making changes, not just with the kids, but with their families as

> well. You can call the parents stupid and ignorant,( I don't think

> they are), but when you give them the right tools to make changes,

> many do. If you are asking a family to change their habits at home

> and the school is serving a platter of junk, it definitely derails a

> lot of what you are trying to teach.

>

>

>

>

> From: Ro <lindarord@...<mailto:lindarord%40att.net>>

> Subject: Re: Child nutrition bill derailed

> To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

> Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 4:04 AM

>

> ,

> I fully understand your frustration with government supported

> nutrition programs,

> but I work with lower income special needs children, and need to

> point out one

> thing: the overweight/obesity issue is often not because parents are

> feeding their kids

> too large a volume of food and thus wasting money. It has to do with

> decreased physical activity (sometimes due to it being unsafe to

> play outside),

> our love of video games,

> lack of parental cooking skills,

> the huge increase in convenience foods aimed at toddlers and young

> children

> so that parents think that’s what they should be feeding their

> children

> (Blame Gerber.),

> low nutrient-density foods being cheaper and fast foods being faster

> when

> both parents work (if there are two parents),

> our concept of proper portion sizes for children (and adults, too),

> and

> often the lack of full grocery stores in many urban neighborhoods.

> “Corner markets”

> carry no produce. I live in a suburb of a medium-size city but have

> several

> patients in the city. The “Southside” has NO grocery stores. The

> “Eastside” has one.

>

> Please note also that many of the overweight children come from

> homes that do not

> qualify for free or reduced price school meals. I have a

> granddaughter who is one.

> (Yes, I make suggestions, but there is only so much Grandma can say.)

>

> This has become a societal issue in addition to one of individual

> parental choice.

> I wish I had a quick answer.

>

> Ro

>

> From: Digna Cassens

> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 12:28 AM

> To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: RE: Child nutrition bill derailed

>

> I'm with you.

>

> From: mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com

> ] On Behalf Of

> Rowell,

> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:46 AM

> To: mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com'

> Subject: RE: Child nutrition bill derailed

>

> Good! I don't want to pay for those meals with my hard earned

> income. Their

> parents can do that. And don't tell me they can't afford it then

> turn around

> and complain about how fat kids are! You can't have it both ways.

> And don't

> tell me the government programs will help them lose weight. It's never

> worked before.. that would fit in the definition of insanity. You

> know...

> expecting a different result. Shrink the government, not our incomes.

>

> W. Rowell, RD, LN

> Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT

> Consultant Dietitian, Long Term Care

> Certified LEAP Therapist

>

> Child nutrition bill derailed

>

> House Republicans have temporarily blocked legislation to feed

> school meals

> to thousands more hungry children.

>

> Republicans used a procedural maneuver Wednesday to try to amend the

> $4.5

> billion bill, which would give more needy children the opportunity

> to eat

> free lunches at school and make those lunches healthier. First lady

>

> Obama has lobbied for the bill as part of her " Let's Move " campaign to

> combat childhood obesity.

>

> House Democrats said the GOP amendment, which would have required

> background

> checks for child care workers, was an effort to kill the bill and

> delayed a

> final vote on the legislation rather than vote on the amendment.

>

> Because the nutrition bill is identical to legislation passed by the

> Senate

> in August, passage would send it to the White House for President

> Barack

> Obama's signature. If the bill were amended, it would be sent back

> to the

> Senate with little time left in the legislative session.

>

> House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md. said the House would hold

> separate

> votes on Thursday on the amendment and the bill.

>

> Republicans say the nutrition bill is too costly and an example of

> government overreach.

>

> " It's not about making our children healthy and active, " said Rep.

>

> Kline, R-Minn., the top Republican on the House Education and Labor

> Committee. " We all want to see our children healthy and active. This

> is

> about spending and the role of government and the size of government

> - a

> debate about whether we're listening to our constituents or not. "

>

> Former Alaska Gov. Palin has also taken a swipe at the first

> lady's

> campaign, bringing cookies to a speech at a Pennsylvania school last

> month

> and calling the campaign a " school cookie ban debate " and " nanny

> state run

> amok " on her Twitter feed.

>

> The legislation would give the government the power to decide what

> kinds of

> foods could be sold and what ingredients may be limited in school

> lunch

> lines and vending machines.

>

> The Agriculture Department would create the standards, which would

> likely

> keep popular foods like hamburgers and pizza in school cafeterias

> but make

> them healthier, using leaner meat or whole wheat crust, for example.

> Vending

> machines could be stocked with less candy and fewer high-calorie

> drinks.

>

> The bill would provide money to serve more than 20 million additional

> after-school meals annually to children in all 50 states. Many of

> those

> children now only receive after-school snacks. It would also

> increase the

> number of children eligible for school meals programs by at least

> 115,000,

> using Medicaid and census data to identify them.

>

> The legislation would increase the amount of money schools are

> reimbursed by

> 6 cents a meal, a priority for schools that say they don't have the

> dollars

> to feed needy kids.

>

> (This version CORRECTS that Palin is a former, not current, Alaska

> governor.)

>

> LINK

> here<http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jXlg4sewEO29T6Zz_IFA_

> VV2XKJQ?docId=9bc7bb1a3798417ea70483eed01e2fa4>

>

> --

> Ortiz, MS, RD

> *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

> Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

> Chocolate Calculator <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=9379>

> " Nutrition is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi All:

My problem with this whole initiative is - " Where is the professional

expertise from the RD?? Obama has her chef in charge. I went on

the website to volunteer in my community in the schools for the Let's Move "

program. You know what - they are recruiting chefs. On the sign up page

you have to indicate your professional chef's organization - no ADA in

sight. Don't you think our schools would be better served by having the RD

who can teach nutrition as well as basic food prep skills?? Do we really

need gourmet food in our schools???

I also feel our money would be better served by placing RD's in the school

system to educate kids, parents and faculty as opposed to giving more food.

My mother-in-law works in the cafeteria of a grammar school in a very

middle-classed town in Jersey. She is incensed at the number of kids

receiving free and discounted meals and the amount of waste. The kids are

required to take the regular approved lunch before they can purchase " junk " .

They promptly proceed to the garbage and dump the " good food " and then to

the pizza and junk food line. What are we accomplishing here? We should

encourage education thru innovation. Many school districts have fun

programs including St. MN which has had a chef on board for several

years and the district that started the " Edible Schoolyard " . This teaches

more than nutrition and can be carried home.

Placing 500 salad bars in schools is very noble but totally wasteful.

Unless the kids are taught to experiment and try new food, it will just rot.

The same is true with placing produce in convenience stores in food deserts.

It will rot when people do not buy it. A better idea would be to place

dietitians who can educate in the community.

Why do these white tower government people never ask the professionals in

the trenches???

Healthy Regards:

Kathy

Kathy C. Fielding, RD, LD

Registered/Licensed Dietitian Nutritionist

Natural Health Concepts

Preventive Health Strategies & Wellness,

Complementary & Alternative Medicine

Bios Life Slim

Lose Body Fat & Inches Naturally!

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www.myunicity.net/kayceefielding

www.bioslifeslim.com/kayceefielding

Child nutrition bill derailed

>

> House Republicans have temporarily blocked legislation to feed

> school meals

> to thousands more hungry children.

>

> Republicans used a procedural maneuver Wednesday to try to amend the

> $4.5

> billion bill, which would give more needy children the opportunity

> to eat

> free lunches at school and make those lunches healthier. First lady

>

> Obama has lobbied for the bill as part of her " Let's Move " campaign to

> combat childhood obesity.

>

> House Democrats said the GOP amendment, which would have required

> background

> checks for child care workers, was an effort to kill the bill and

> delayed a

> final vote on the legislation rather than vote on the amendment.

>

> Because the nutrition bill is identical to legislation passed by the

> Senate

> in August, passage would send it to the White House for President

> Barack

> Obama's signature. If the bill were amended, it would be sent back

> to the

> Senate with little time left in the legislative session.

>

> House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md. said the House would hold

> separate

> votes on Thursday on the amendment and the bill.

>

> Republicans say the nutrition bill is too costly and an example of

> government overreach.

>

> " It's not about making our children healthy and active, " said Rep.

>

> Kline, R-Minn., the top Republican on the House Education and Labor

> Committee. " We all want to see our children healthy and active. This

> is

> about spending and the role of government and the size of government

> - a

> debate about whether we're listening to our constituents or not. "

>

> Former Alaska Gov. Palin has also taken a swipe at the first

> lady's

> campaign, bringing cookies to a speech at a Pennsylvania school last

> month

> and calling the campaign a " school cookie ban debate " and " nanny

> state run

> amok " on her Twitter feed.

>

> The legislation would give the government the power to decide what

> kinds of

> foods could be sold and what ingredients may be limited in school

> lunch

> lines and vending machines.

>

> The Agriculture Department would create the standards, which would

> likely

> keep popular foods like hamburgers and pizza in school cafeterias

> but make

> them healthier, using leaner meat or whole wheat crust, for example.

> Vending

> machines could be stocked with less candy and fewer high-calorie

> drinks.

>

> The bill would provide money to serve more than 20 million additional

> after-school meals annually to children in all 50 states. Many of

> those

> children now only receive after-school snacks. It would also

> increase the

> number of children eligible for school meals programs by at least

> 115,000,

> using Medicaid and census data to identify them.

>

> The legislation would increase the amount of money schools are

> reimbursed by

> 6 cents a meal, a priority for schools that say they don't have the

> dollars

> to feed needy kids.

>

> (This version CORRECTS that Palin is a former, not current, Alaska

> governor.)

>

> LINK

>

here<http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jXlg4sewEO29T6Zz_IFA_

> VV2XKJQ?docId=9bc7bb1a3798417ea70483eed01e2fa4>

>

> --

> Ortiz, MS, RD

> *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

> Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

> Chocolate Calculator <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=9379>

> " Nutrition is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

>

>

[Guest guest]

Fat does not equal fit or nourished. Many overweight people are

malnourished. If we make judgements against why people are overweight, why

did we become dietitians I wonder.

>

>

> ,

> I fully understand your frustration with government supported nutrition

> programs,

> but I work with lower income special needs children, and need to point out

> one

> thing: the overweight/obesity issue is often not because parents are

> feeding their kids

> too large a volume of food and thus wasting money. It has to do with

> decreased physical activity (sometimes due to it being unsafe to play

> outside),

> our love of video games,

> lack of parental cooking skills,

> the huge increase in convenience foods aimed at toddlers and young children

>

> so that parents think that’s what they should be feeding their children

> (Blame Gerber.),

> low nutrient-density foods being cheaper and fast foods being faster when

> both parents work (if there are two parents),

> our concept of proper portion sizes for children (and adults, too), and

> often the lack of full grocery stores in many urban neighborhoods. “Corner

> markets”

> carry no produce. I live in a suburb of a medium-size city but have several

>

> patients in the city. The “Southside” has NO grocery stores. The “Eastside”

> has one.

>

> Please note also that many of the overweight children come from homes that

> do not

> qualify for free or reduced price school meals. I have a granddaughter who

> is one.

> (Yes, I make suggestions, but there is only so much Grandma can say.)

>

> This has become a societal issue in addition to one of individual parental

> choice.

> I wish I had a quick answer.

>

> Ro

>

> From: Digna Cassens

> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 12:28 AM

>

> To: rd-usa <rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: RE: Child nutrition bill derailed

>

> I'm with you.

>

> From: mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com <rd-usa%2540yahoogroups.com>[mailto:

> mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of

>

> Rowell,

> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:46 AM

> To: mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com'

>

> Subject: RE: Child nutrition bill derailed

>

> Good! I don't want to pay for those meals with my hard earned income. Their

> parents can do that. And don't tell me they can't afford it then turn

> around

> and complain about how fat kids are! You can't have it both ways. And don't

> tell me the government programs will help them lose weight. It's never

> worked before.. that would fit in the definition of insanity. You know...

> expecting a different result. Shrink the government, not our incomes.

>

> W. Rowell, RD, LN

> Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT

> Consultant Dietitian, Long Term Care

> Certified LEAP Therapist

>

> Child nutrition bill derailed

>

> House Republicans have temporarily blocked legislation to feed school meals

> to thousands more hungry children.

>

> Republicans used a procedural maneuver Wednesday to try to amend the $4.5

> billion bill, which would give more needy children the opportunity to eat

> free lunches at school and make those lunches healthier. First lady

>

> Obama has lobbied for the bill as part of her " Let's Move " campaign to

> combat childhood obesity.

>

> House Democrats said the GOP amendment, which would have required

> background

> checks for child care workers, was an effort to kill the bill and delayed a

> final vote on the legislation rather than vote on the amendment.

>

> Because the nutrition bill is identical to legislation passed by the Senate

> in August, passage would send it to the White House for President Barack

> Obama's signature. If the bill were amended, it would be sent back to the

> Senate with little time left in the legislative session.

>

> House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md. said the House would hold separate

> votes on Thursday on the amendment and the bill.

>

> Republicans say the nutrition bill is too costly and an example of

> government overreach.

>

> " It's not about making our children healthy and active, " said Rep.

> Kline, R-Minn., the top Republican on the House Education and Labor

> Committee. " We all want to see our children healthy and active. This is

> about spending and the role of government and the size of government - a

> debate about whether we're listening to our constituents or not. "

>

> Former Alaska Gov. Palin has also taken a swipe at the first lady's

> campaign, bringing cookies to a speech at a Pennsylvania school last month

> and calling the campaign a " school cookie ban debate " and " nanny state run

> amok " on her Twitter feed.

>

> The legislation would give the government the power to decide what kinds of

> foods could be sold and what ingredients may be limited in school lunch

> lines and vending machines.

>

> The Agriculture Department would create the standards, which would likely

> keep popular foods like hamburgers and pizza in school cafeterias but make

> them healthier, using leaner meat or whole wheat crust, for example.

> Vending

> machines could be stocked with less candy and fewer high-calorie drinks.

>

> The bill would provide money to serve more than 20 million additional

> after-school meals annually to children in all 50 states. Many of those

> children now only receive after-school snacks. It would also increase the

> number of children eligible for school meals programs by at least 115,000,

> using Medicaid and census data to identify them.

>

> The legislation would increase the amount of money schools are reimbursed

> by

> 6 cents a meal, a priority for schools that say they don't have the dollars

> to feed needy kids.

>

> (This version CORRECTS that Palin is a former, not current, Alaska

> governor.)

>

> LINK

> here<

> http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jXlg4sewEO29T6Zz_IFA_

> VV2XKJQ?docId=9bc7bb1a3798417ea70483eed01e2fa4>

>

> --

> Ortiz, MS, RD

> *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

> Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

> Chocolate Calculator <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=9379>

> " Nutrition is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

>

>

[Guest guest]

If we DON'T make judgments about why people are overweight, why did we become

dietitians? How could we help without doing so? Clearly, excess calories is not

good nutrition, therefore it is malnutrition.

Child nutrition bill derailed

>

> House Republicans have temporarily blocked legislation to feed school meals

> to thousands more hungry children.

>

> Republicans used a procedural maneuver Wednesday to try to amend the $4.5

> billion bill, which would give more needy children the opportunity to eat

> free lunches at school and make those lunches healthier. First lady

>

> Obama has lobbied for the bill as part of her " Let's Move " campaign to

> combat childhood obesity.

>

> House Democrats said the GOP amendment, which would have required

> background

> checks for child care workers, was an effort to kill the bill and delayed a

> final vote on the legislation rather than vote on the amendment.

>

> Because the nutrition bill is identical to legislation passed by the Senate

> in August, passage would send it to the White House for President Barack

> Obama's signature. If the bill were amended, it would be sent back to the

> Senate with little time left in the legislative session.

>

> House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md. said the House would hold separate

> votes on Thursday on the amendment and the bill.

>

> Republicans say the nutrition bill is too costly and an example of

> government overreach.

>

> " It's not about making our children healthy and active, " said Rep.

> Kline, R-Minn., the top Republican on the House Education and Labor

> Committee. " We all want to see our children healthy and active. This is

> about spending and the role of government and the size of government - a

> debate about whether we're listening to our constituents or not. "

>

> Former Alaska Gov. Palin has also taken a swipe at the first lady's

> campaign, bringing cookies to a speech at a Pennsylvania school last month

> and calling the campaign a " school cookie ban debate " and " nanny state run

> amok " on her Twitter feed.

>

> The legislation would give the government the power to decide what kinds of

> foods could be sold and what ingredients may be limited in school lunch

> lines and vending machines.

>

> The Agriculture Department would create the standards, which would likely

> keep popular foods like hamburgers and pizza in school cafeterias but make

> them healthier, using leaner meat or whole wheat crust, for example.

> Vending

> machines could be stocked with less candy and fewer high-calorie drinks.

>

> The bill would provide money to serve more than 20 million additional

> after-school meals annually to children in all 50 states. Many of those

> children now only receive after-school snacks. It would also increase the

> number of children eligible for school meals programs by at least 115,000,

> using Medicaid and census data to identify them.

>

> The legislation would increase the amount of money schools are reimbursed

> by

> 6 cents a meal, a priority for schools that say they don't have the dollars

> to feed needy kids.

>

> (This version CORRECTS that Palin is a former, not current, Alaska

> governor.)

>

> LINK

> here<

> http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jXlg4sewEO29T6Zz_IFA_

> VV2XKJQ?docId=9bc7bb1a3798417ea70483eed01e2fa4>

>

> --

> Ortiz, MS, RD

> *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

> Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

> Chocolate Calculator <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=9379>

> " Nutrition is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

>

>

[Guest guest]

Here is an article you can comment on...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/ct-met-chefs-in-cps-20101130,0,6980026.stor\

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On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Kathy C. Fielding wrote:

>

>

> Hi All:

>

> My problem with this whole initiative is - " Where is the professional

> expertise from the RD?? Obama has her chef in charge. I went on

> the website to volunteer in my community in the schools for the Let's Move "

> program. You know what - they are recruiting chefs. On the sign up page

> you have to indicate your professional chef's organization - no ADA in

> sight. Don't you think our schools would be better served by having the RD

> who can teach nutrition as well as basic food prep skills?? Do we really

> need gourmet food in our schools???

> I also feel our money would be better served by placing RD's in the school

> system to educate kids, parents and faculty as opposed to giving more food.

> My mother-in-law works in the cafeteria of a grammar school in a very

> middle-classed town in Jersey. She is incensed at the number of kids

> receiving free and discounted meals and the amount of waste. The kids are

> required to take the regular approved lunch before they can purchase

> " junk " .

> They promptly proceed to the garbage and dump the " good food " and then to

> the pizza and junk food line. What are we accomplishing here? We should

> encourage education thru innovation. Many school districts have fun

> programs including St. MN which has had a chef on board for several

> years and the district that started the " Edible Schoolyard " . This teaches

> more than nutrition and can be carried home.

> Placing 500 salad bars in schools is very noble but totally wasteful.

> Unless the kids are taught to experiment and try new food, it will just

> rot.

> The same is true with placing produce in convenience stores in food

> deserts.

> It will rot when people do not buy it. A better idea would be to place

> dietitians who can educate in the community.

> Why do these white tower government people never ask the professionals in

> the trenches???

> Healthy Regards:

> Kathy

>

> Kathy C. Fielding, RD, LD

> Registered/Licensed Dietitian Nutritionist

> Natural Health Concepts

> Preventive Health Strategies & Wellness,

> Complementary & Alternative Medicine

>

> Bios Life Slim

> Lose Body Fat & Inches Naturally!

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>

> www.myunicity.net/kayceefielding

> www.bioslifeslim.com/kayceefielding

>

>

>

>

> Child nutrition bill derailed

> >

> > House Republicans have temporarily blocked legislation to feed

> > school meals

> > to thousands more hungry children.

> >

> > Republicans used a procedural maneuver Wednesday to try to amend the

> > $4.5

> > billion bill, which would give more needy children the opportunity

> > to eat

> > free lunches at school and make those lunches healthier. First lady

> >

> > Obama has lobbied for the bill as part of her " Let's Move " campaign to

> > combat childhood obesity.

> >

> > House Democrats said the GOP amendment, which would have required

> > background

> > checks for child care workers, was an effort to kill the bill and

> > delayed a

> > final vote on the legislation rather than vote on the amendment.

> >

> > Because the nutrition bill is identical to legislation passed by the

> > Senate

> > in August, passage would send it to the White House for President

> > Barack

> > Obama's signature. If the bill were amended, it would be sent back

> > to the

> > Senate with little time left in the legislative session.

> >

> > House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md. said the House would hold

> > separate

> > votes on Thursday on the amendment and the bill.

> >

> > Republicans say the nutrition bill is too costly and an example of

> > government overreach.

> >

> > " It's not about making our children healthy and active, " said Rep.

> >

> > Kline, R-Minn., the top Republican on the House Education and Labor

> > Committee. " We all want to see our children healthy and active. This

> > is

> > about spending and the role of government and the size of government

> > - a

> > debate about whether we're listening to our constituents or not. "

> >

> > Former Alaska Gov. Palin has also taken a swipe at the first

> > lady's

> > campaign, bringing cookies to a speech at a Pennsylvania school last

> > month

> > and calling the campaign a " school cookie ban debate " and " nanny

> > state run

> > amok " on her Twitter feed.

> >

> > The legislation would give the government the power to decide what

> > kinds of

> > foods could be sold and what ingredients may be limited in school

> > lunch

> > lines and vending machines.

> >

> > The Agriculture Department would create the standards, which would

> > likely

> > keep popular foods like hamburgers and pizza in school cafeterias

> > but make

> > them healthier, using leaner meat or whole wheat crust, for example.

> > Vending

> > machines could be stocked with less candy and fewer high-calorie

> > drinks.

> >

> > The bill would provide money to serve more than 20 million additional

> > after-school meals annually to children in all 50 states. Many of

> > those

> > children now only receive after-school snacks. It would also

> > increase the

> > number of children eligible for school meals programs by at least

> > 115,000,

> > using Medicaid and census data to identify them.

> >

> > The legislation would increase the amount of money schools are

> > reimbursed by

> > 6 cents a meal, a priority for schools that say they don't have the

> > dollars

> > to feed needy kids.

> >

> > (This version CORRECTS that Palin is a former, not current, Alaska

> > governor.)

> >

> > LINK

> >

> here<

> http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jXlg4sewEO29T6Zz_IFA_

> > VV2XKJQ?docId=9bc7bb1a3798417ea70483eed01e2fa4>

> >

> > --

> > Ortiz, MS, RD

> > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

> > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

> > Chocolate Calculator <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=9379>

> > " Nutrition is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

It was the chefs that visited the White House and used 's garden to

pick ingredients to prepare " healthy " meals, not RDs. We need a mail

campaign to educate the first lady asap.

I have accepted to write lesson plans for a local middle school PE program

IF (big if) they get the grant $ from Gen Mills they're writing for,

starting June 2011 until written. It may take me 5 hrs or it may take me 40

hrs. I have no further info. My name was picked randomly by the PE teach

from the ADA " find an RD listing " . I lucked out bc of my zip code being

close to the district. I know that district is completely broke - so much so

that they had to cancel their adult ed and special ed ROP programs this

fall. It was that or cut out elementary and middle school funds. All

volunteers that had " jobs " at the nursing home my mother resides in are

gone. That means about 30 handicapped adults that were mostly able to live

on their own in the community, lost their jobs. Some had been there for over

25 years and had started at 18.

Sad for everyone. But there are ways to get ourselves recognized. I can only

do it at the local level. I'll probably donate my time bc the grant is

only$10K and it can go fast.

So how do we make sure the first lady learns about us??? I have no idea, but

maybe someone does.

Digna

Child nutrition bill derailed

> >

> > House Republicans have temporarily blocked legislation to feed

> > school meals

> > to thousands more hungry children.

> >

> > Republicans used a procedural maneuver Wednesday to try to amend the

> > $4.5

> > billion bill, which would give more needy children the opportunity

> > to eat

> > free lunches at school and make those lunches healthier. First lady

> >

> > Obama has lobbied for the bill as part of her " Let's Move " campaign to

> > combat childhood obesity.

> >

> > House Democrats said the GOP amendment, which would have required

> > background

> > checks for child care workers, was an effort to kill the bill and

> > delayed a

> > final vote on the legislation rather than vote on the amendment.

> >

> > Because the nutrition bill is identical to legislation passed by the

> > Senate

> > in August, passage would send it to the White House for President

> > Barack

> > Obama's signature. If the bill were amended, it would be sent back

> > to the

> > Senate with little time left in the legislative session.

> >

> > House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md. said the House would hold

> > separate

> > votes on Thursday on the amendment and the bill.

> >

> > Republicans say the nutrition bill is too costly and an example of

> > government overreach.

> >

> > " It's not about making our children healthy and active, " said Rep.

> >

> > Kline, R-Minn., the top Republican on the House Education and Labor

> > Committee. " We all want to see our children healthy and active. This

> > is

> > about spending and the role of government and the size of government

> > - a

> > debate about whether we're listening to our constituents or not. "

> >

> > Former Alaska Gov. Palin has also taken a swipe at the first

> > lady's

> > campaign, bringing cookies to a speech at a Pennsylvania school last

> > month

> > and calling the campaign a " school cookie ban debate " and " nanny

> > state run

> > amok " on her Twitter feed.

> >

> > The legislation would give the government the power to decide what

> > kinds of

> > foods could be sold and what ingredients may be limited in school

> > lunch

> > lines and vending machines.

> >

> > The Agriculture Department would create the standards, which would

> > likely

> > keep popular foods like hamburgers and pizza in school cafeterias

> > but make

> > them healthier, using leaner meat or whole wheat crust, for example.

> > Vending

> > machines could be stocked with less candy and fewer high-calorie

> > drinks.

> >

> > The bill would provide money to serve more than 20 million additional

> > after-school meals annually to children in all 50 states. Many of

> > those

> > children now only receive after-school snacks. It would also

> > increase the

> > number of children eligible for school meals programs by at least

> > 115,000,

> > using Medicaid and census data to identify them.

> >

> > The legislation would increase the amount of money schools are

> > reimbursed by

> > 6 cents a meal, a priority for schools that say they don't have the

> > dollars

> > to feed needy kids.

> >

> > (This version CORRECTS that Palin is a former, not current, Alaska

> > governor.)

> >

> > LINK

> >

> here<

> http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jXlg4sewEO29T6Zz_IFA_

> > VV2XKJQ?docId=9bc7bb1a3798417ea70483eed01e2fa4>

> >

> > --

> > Ortiz, MS, RD

> > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

> > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

> > Chocolate Calculator <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=9379>

> > " Nutrition is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I know as professionals our goal has always been to help people help themselves.

It's the how that frequently trips up the process.

To me an example is the labeling laws. As a young dietitian, we supported

labeling as the way to get people to eat better. Mucho dollars are spent

designing labels, printing, regulating what is on them. Is it a real claim? etc.

None of these efforts have changed anything because it take an RD to interpret

and make it a real habit. Instead of all the bucks paying graphic artists,

chemists, corporations, just Maybe an annual visit to an RD, much like an MD

visit may have had a much better effect and I'm sure would cost a whole lot

less. I think this is true for school 'nutrition' services as well. Access on an

ongoing basis to an RD is a sound approach. People in poor countries are not

concerned with labels; just getting something to eat. Are there labels on those

throw aways in the dumpster. Just sometning to think about. Raphaela Rozanski,

MS, RD, LDN

>

> From: Ro

<lindarord@...<mailto:lindarord%40att.net><mailto:lindarord%40att.net>>

> Subject: Re: Child nutrition bill derailed

> To:

rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\

ups.com>

> Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 4:04 AM

>

> ,

> I fully understand your frustration with government supported nutrition

programs,

> but I work with lower income special needs children, and need to point out one

> thing: the overweight/obesity issue is often not because parents are feeding

their kids

> too large a volume of food and thus wasting money. It has to do with

> decreased physical activity (sometimes due to it being unsafe to play

outside),

> our love of video games,

> lack of parental cooking skills,

> the huge increase in convenience foods aimed at toddlers and young children

> so that parents think that’s what they should be feeding their children

> (Blame Gerber.),

> low nutrient-density foods being cheaper and fast foods being faster when

> both parents work (if there are two parents),

> our concept of proper portion sizes for children (and adults, too), and

> often the lack of full grocery stores in many urban neighborhoods. “Corner

marketsâ€

> carry no produce. I live in a suburb of a medium-size city but have several

> patients in the city. The “Southside†has NO grocery stores. The

“Eastside†has one.

>

> Please note also that many of the overweight children come from homes that do

not

> qualify for free or reduced price school meals. I have a granddaughter who is

one.

> (Yes, I make suggestions, but there is only so much Grandma can say.)

>

> This has become a societal issue in addition to one of individual parental

choice.

> I wish I had a quick answer.

>

> Ro

>

> From: Digna Cassens

> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 12:28 AM

> To:

rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\

ups.com>

> Subject: RE: Child nutrition bill derailed

>

> I'm with you.

>

> From: mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com]

On Behalf Of

> Rowell,

> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:46 AM

> To: mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com'

> Subject: RE: Child nutrition bill derailed

>

> Good! I don't want to pay for those meals with my hard earned income. Their

> parents can do that. And don't tell me they can't afford it then turn around

> and complain about how fat kids are! You can't have it both ways. And don't

> tell me the government programs will help them lose weight. It's never

> worked before.. that would fit in the definition of insanity. You know...

> expecting a different result. Shrink the government, not our incomes.

>

> W. Rowell, RD, LN

> Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT

> Consultant Dietitian, Long Term Care

> Certified LEAP Therapist

>

> Child nutrition bill derailed

>

> House Republicans have temporarily blocked legislation to feed school meals

> to thousands more hungry children.

>

> Republicans used a procedural maneuver Wednesday to try to amend the $4.5

> billion bill, which would give more needy children the opportunity to eat

> free lunches at school and make those lunches healthier. First lady

> Obama has lobbied for the bill as part of her " Let's Move " campaign to

> combat childhood obesity.

>

> House Democrats said the GOP amendment, which would have required background

> checks for child care workers, was an effort to kill the bill and delayed a

> final vote on the legislation rather than vote on the amendment.

>

> Because the nutrition bill is identical to legislation passed by the Senate

> in August, passage would send it to the White House for President Barack

> Obama's signature. If the bill were amended, it would be sent back to the

> Senate with little time left in the legislative session.

>

> House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md. said the House would hold separate

> votes on Thursday on the amendment and the bill.

>

> Republicans say the nutrition bill is too costly and an example of

> government overreach.

>

> " It's not about making our children healthy and active, " said Rep.

> Kline, R-Minn., the top Republican on the House Education and Labor

> Committee. " We all want to see our children healthy and active. This is

> about spending and the role of government and the size of government - a

> debate about whether we're listening to our constituents or not. "

>

> Former Alaska Gov. Palin has also taken a swipe at the first lady's

> campaign, bringing cookies to a speech at a Pennsylvania school last month

> and calling the campaign a " school cookie ban debate " and " nanny state run

> amok " on her Twitter feed.

>

> The legislation would give the government the power to decide what kinds of

> foods could be sold and what ingredients may be limited in school lunch

> lines and vending machines.

>

> The Agriculture Department would create the standards, which would likely

> keep popular foods like hamburgers and pizza in school cafeterias but make

> them healthier, using leaner meat or whole wheat crust, for example. Vending

> machines could be stocked with less candy and fewer high-calorie drinks.

>

> The bill would provide money to serve more than 20 million additional

> after-school meals annually to children in all 50 states. Many of those

> children now only receive after-school snacks. It would also increase the

> number of children eligible for school meals programs by at least 115,000,

> using Medicaid and census data to identify them.

>

> The legislation would increase the amount of money schools are reimbursed by

> 6 cents a meal, a priority for schools that say they don't have the dollars

> to feed needy kids.

>

> (This version CORRECTS that Palin is a former, not current, Alaska

> governor.)

>

> LINK

> here<http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jXlg4sewEO29T6Zz_IFA_

> VV2XKJQ?docId=9bc7bb1a3798417ea70483eed01e2fa4>

>

> --

> Ortiz, MS, RD

> *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

> Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

> Chocolate Calculator <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=9379>

> " Nutrition is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

>

>