Re: Cereals & Breads..

[Guest guest]

thanks for sharing that...where do you get this info online?

Thanks

Sherry

> Here is a list of breads and cereals

>

> Breads from the SBD website that are legal for Phase 2:

>

> Pepperidge Farm:

> 100% Stoneground Whole Wheat

> Natural Whole Grain 9 Grain

> Natural Whole Grain German Dark Wheat

> Natural Whole Grain Crunchy Grains or Multi-Grain

>

> Brownberry:

> 100% Whole Wheat

> Natural 12 Grain

> Natural Oatnut

>

> Rubschlager:

> European Style Whole Grain

> 100% Rye Rye-Ola Sunflower

> 100% Rye Rye-Ola Rye

> 100% Rye Rye-Ola Pumpernickel

>

> Other:

> Nature's Own 100% Whole Wheat Bread

> Mrs. Baird's 100% Whole Wheat

> Roman Meal 100% Whole Wheat

> Arnold 100% Whole Wheat

>

> Cereal Suggestions from the SBD Website:

>

> Hot Cereals (with suggested serving sizes):

> Ralston 100% Wheat (1/2 cup)

> Quaker Oat Bran (1/2 cup)

> Quaker Old Fashioned Oats (slow-cooking type) (1/2 cup)

> Old Wessex Oatbran (1/2 cup)

> Kashi Breakfast Pilaf (1/2 cup)

> Mother's or Quaker Multigrain (1/2 cup)

> Arrowhead Mills 7 Grain (1/3 cup)

> Wheatena (1/3 cup)

> Arrowhead Mills Steel Cut Oats (1/4 cup)

> Mother's Whole Wheat (1/2 cup)

> McCann's Steel Cut Irish Oatmeal (1/4 cup)

> Roman Meal Original with Oats (1/3 cup)

>

> Cold Cereals (with suggested serving sizes):

> Uncle Sam Cereal (1 cup)

> Kellogg's All Bran Original (1/2 cup)

> Post Shredded Wheat & Bran (1 1/4 cup)

> Kellogg's All Bran Extra Fiber (1/2 cup)

> Post Bran Buds (1/3 cup)

> Post 100% Bran Cereal (1/3 cup)

> General Mills Fiber One (1/2 cup)

> Kashi Good Friends (3/4 cup)

> Kashi GoLean (3/4 cup)

[Guest guest]

This is actually a list that I received when I first started South Beach back in March. Somebody from this very list sent it. I am guessing you can get it if you join the South Beach Online (which is expensive) So, one person gets the info, and spreads it out.

Glad I could help!

Re: Cereals & Breads..

thanks for sharing that...where do you get this info online?ThanksSherry> Here is a list of breads and cereals> > Breads from the SBD website that are legal for Phase 2:> > Pepperidge Farm:> 100% Stoneground Whole Wheat> Natural Whole Grain 9 Grain> Natural Whole Grain German Dark Wheat> Natural Whole Grain Crunchy Grains or Multi-Grain> > Brownberry:> 100% Whole Wheat> Natural 12 Grain> Natural Oatnut> > Rubschlager:> European Style Whole Grain> 100% Rye Rye-Ola Sunflower> 100% Rye Rye-Ola Rye> 100% Rye Rye-Ola Pumpernickel> > Other:> Nature's Own 100% Whole Wheat Bread> Mrs. Baird's 100% Whole Wheat> Roman Meal 100% Whole Wheat> Arnold 100% Whole Wheat> > Cereal Suggestions from the SBD Website:> > Hot Cereals (with suggested serving sizes):> Ralston 100% Wheat (1/2 cup)> Quaker Oat Bran (1/2 cup)> Quaker Old Fashioned Oats (slow-cooking type) (1/2 cup)> Old Wessex Oatbran (1/2 cup)> Kashi Breakfast Pilaf (1/2 cup)> Mother's or Quaker Multigrain (1/2 cup)> Arrowhead Mills 7 Grain (1/3 cup)> Wheatena (1/3 cup)> Arrowhead Mills Steel Cut Oats (1/4 cup)> Mother's Whole Wheat (1/2 cup)> McCann's Steel Cut Irish Oatmeal (1/4 cup)> Roman Meal Original with Oats (1/3 cup)> > Cold Cereals (with suggested serving sizes):> Uncle Sam Cereal (1 cup)> Kellogg's All Bran Original (1/2 cup)> Post Shredded Wheat & Bran (1 1/4 cup)> Kellogg's All Bran Extra Fiber (1/2 cup)> Post Bran Buds (1/3 cup)> Post 100% Bran Cereal (1/3 cup)> General Mills Fiber One (1/2 cup)> Kashi Good Friends (3/4 cup)> Kashi GoLean (3/4 cup)

[Guest guest]

I actually wrote to the SBD website and asked if they offered

any " free " services. I also let let them know that when I joined the

Atkins group a while back that they have no problem with sharing the

updated info. It irks me that they make you pay $5 a week to get

this updated info. I refuse to do that.

I wish they would have some type of site that would list any changes

in their approved foods that anyoe following their site could use.

So far they have not written me back..:-(

Sherry

> > Here is a list of breads and cereals

> >

> > Breads from the SBD website that are legal for Phase 2:

> >

> > Pepperidge Farm:

> > 100% Stoneground Whole Wheat

> > Natural Whole Grain 9 Grain

> > Natural Whole Grain German Dark Wheat

> > Natural Whole Grain Crunchy Grains or Multi-Grain

> >

> > Brownberry:

> > 100% Whole Wheat

> > Natural 12 Grain

> > Natural Oatnut

> >

> > Rubschlager:

> > European Style Whole Grain

> > 100% Rye Rye-Ola Sunflower

> > 100% Rye Rye-Ola Rye

> > 100% Rye Rye-Ola Pumpernickel

> >

> > Other:

> > Nature's Own 100% Whole Wheat Bread

> > Mrs. Baird's 100% Whole Wheat

> > Roman Meal 100% Whole Wheat

> > Arnold 100% Whole Wheat

> >

> > Cereal Suggestions from the SBD Website:

> >

> > Hot Cereals (with suggested serving sizes):

> > Ralston 100% Wheat (1/2 cup)

> > Quaker Oat Bran (1/2 cup)

> > Quaker Old Fashioned Oats (slow-cooking type) (1/2 cup)

> > Old Wessex Oatbran (1/2 cup)

> > Kashi Breakfast Pilaf (1/2 cup)

> > Mother's or Quaker Multigrain (1/2 cup)

> > Arrowhead Mills 7 Grain (1/3 cup)

> > Wheatena (1/3 cup)

> > Arrowhead Mills Steel Cut Oats (1/4 cup)

> > Mother's Whole Wheat (1/2 cup)

> > McCann's Steel Cut Irish Oatmeal (1/4 cup)

> > Roman Meal Original with Oats (1/3 cup)

> >

> > Cold Cereals (with suggested serving sizes):

> > Uncle Sam Cereal (1 cup)

> > Kellogg's All Bran Original (1/2 cup)

> > Post Shredded Wheat & Bran (1 1/4 cup)

> > Kellogg's All Bran Extra Fiber (1/2 cup)

> > Post Bran Buds (1/3 cup)

> > Post 100% Bran Cereal (1/3 cup)

> > General Mills Fiber One (1/2 cup)

> > Kashi Good Friends (3/4 cup)

> > Kashi GoLean (3/4 cup)

>

>

>

>

> Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-

fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and

the right fats-the good ones-and enables you to live quite happily

without the bad carbs and bad fats.

>

> For more on this WOE please read " The South Beach Diet " by Arthur

Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

>

[Guest guest]

Personally, it aggravates the living daylights out of me that you can buy THREE books and still have to have some access to the paying site to get the updates. (hint, Dr. A, hint)

Re: Cereals & Breads..

I actually wrote to the SBD website and asked if they offered any "free" services. I also let let them know that when I joined the Atkins group a while back that they have no problem with sharing the updated info. It irks me that they make you pay $5 a week to get this updated info. I refuse to do that.I wish they would have some type of site that would list any changes in their approved foods that anyoe following their site could use.So far they have not written me back..:-(Sherry> > Here is a list of breads and cereals> > > > Breads from the SBD website that are legal for Phase 2:> > > > Pepperidge Farm:> > 100% Stoneground Whole Wheat> > Natural Whole Grain 9 Grain> > Natural Whole Grain German Dark Wheat> > Natural Whole Grain Crunchy Grains or Multi-Grain> > > > Brownberry:> > 100% Whole Wheat> > Natural 12 Grain> > Natural Oatnut> > > > Rubschlager:> > European Style Whole Grain> > 100% Rye Rye-Ola Sunflower> > 100% Rye Rye-Ola Rye> > 100% Rye Rye-Ola Pumpernickel> > > > Other:> > Nature's Own 100% Whole Wheat Bread> > Mrs. Baird's 100% Whole Wheat> > Roman Meal 100% Whole Wheat> > Arnold 100% Whole Wheat> > > > Cereal Suggestions from the SBD Website:> > > > Hot Cereals (with suggested serving sizes):> > Ralston 100% Wheat (1/2 cup)> > Quaker Oat Bran (1/2 cup)> > Quaker Old Fashioned Oats (slow-cooking type) (1/2 cup)> > Old Wessex Oatbran (1/2 cup)> > Kashi Breakfast Pilaf (1/2 cup)> > Mother's or Quaker Multigrain (1/2 cup)> > Arrowhead Mills 7 Grain (1/3 cup)> > Wheatena (1/3 cup)> > Arrowhead Mills Steel Cut Oats (1/4 cup)> > Mother's Whole Wheat (1/2 cup)> > McCann's Steel Cut Irish Oatmeal (1/4 cup)> > Roman Meal Original with Oats (1/3 cup)> > > > Cold Cereals (with suggested serving sizes):> > Uncle Sam Cereal (1 cup)> > Kellogg's All Bran Original (1/2 cup)> > Post Shredded Wheat & Bran (1 1/4 cup)> > Kellogg's All Bran Extra Fiber (1/2 cup)> > Post Bran Buds (1/3 cup)> > Post 100% Bran Cereal (1/3 cup)> > General Mills Fiber One (1/2 cup)> > Kashi Good Friends (3/4 cup)> > Kashi GoLean (3/4 cup)> > > > > Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good ones-and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats. > > For more on this WOE please read "The South Beach Diet" by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8 >

[Guest guest]

-Amen to that Sister!! Think Dr. A isn't rich enough yet??

-- In South-Beach-Diet-Getting-It-Right , " weighter "

<weighter@s...> wrote:

> Personally, it aggravates the living daylights out of me that you

can buy THREE books and still have to have some access to the paying

site to get the updates. (hint, Dr. A, hint)

>

>

> Re: Cereals & Breads..

>

>

> I actually wrote to the SBD website and asked if they offered

> any " free " services. I also let let them know that when I

joined the

> Atkins group a while back that they have no problem with sharing

the

> updated info. It irks me that they make you pay $5 a week to

get

> this updated info. I refuse to do that.

> I wish they would have some type of site that would list any

changes

> in their approved foods that anyoe following their site could

use.

> So far they have not written me back..:-(

> Sherry

>

> > > Here is a list of breads and cereals

> > >

> > > Breads from the SBD website that are legal for Phase 2:

> > >

> > > Pepperidge Farm:

> > > 100% Stoneground Whole Wheat

> > > Natural Whole Grain 9 Grain

> > > Natural Whole Grain German Dark Wheat

> > > Natural Whole Grain Crunchy Grains or Multi-Grain

> > >

> > > Brownberry:

> > > 100% Whole Wheat

> > > Natural 12 Grain

> > > Natural Oatnut

> > >

> > > Rubschlager:

> > > European Style Whole Grain

> > > 100% Rye Rye-Ola Sunflower

> > > 100% Rye Rye-Ola Rye

> > > 100% Rye Rye-Ola Pumpernickel

> > >

> > > Other:

> > > Nature's Own 100% Whole Wheat Bread

> > > Mrs. Baird's 100% Whole Wheat

> > > Roman Meal 100% Whole Wheat

> > > Arnold 100% Whole Wheat

> > >

> > > Cereal Suggestions from the SBD Website:

> > >

> > > Hot Cereals (with suggested serving sizes):

> > > Ralston 100% Wheat (1/2 cup)

> > > Quaker Oat Bran (1/2 cup)

> > > Quaker Old Fashioned Oats (slow-cooking type) (1/2 cup)

> > > Old Wessex Oatbran (1/2 cup)

> > > Kashi Breakfast Pilaf (1/2 cup)

> > > Mother's or Quaker Multigrain (1/2 cup)

> > > Arrowhead Mills 7 Grain (1/3 cup)

> > > Wheatena (1/3 cup)

> > > Arrowhead Mills Steel Cut Oats (1/4 cup)

> > > Mother's Whole Wheat (1/2 cup)

> > > McCann's Steel Cut Irish Oatmeal (1/4 cup)

> > > Roman Meal Original with Oats (1/3 cup)

> > >

> > > Cold Cereals (with suggested serving sizes):

> > > Uncle Sam Cereal (1 cup)

> > > Kellogg's All Bran Original (1/2 cup)

> > > Post Shredded Wheat & Bran (1 1/4 cup)

> > > Kellogg's All Bran Extra Fiber (1/2 cup)

> > > Post Bran Buds (1/3 cup)

> > > Post 100% Bran Cereal (1/3 cup)

> > > General Mills Fiber One (1/2 cup)

> > > Kashi Good Friends (3/4 cup)

> > > Kashi GoLean (3/4 cup)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it

low-

> fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs

and

> the right fats-the good ones-and enables you to live quite

happily

> without the bad carbs and bad fats.

> >

> > For more on this WOE please read " The South Beach Diet " by

Arthur

> Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

> >

[Guest guest]

-Amen to that Sister!! Think Dr. A isn't rich enough yet??

-- In South-Beach-Diet-Getting-It-Right , " weighter "

<weighter@s...> wrote:

> Personally, it aggravates the living daylights out of me that you

can buy THREE books and still have to have some access to the paying

site to get the updates. (hint, Dr. A, hint)

>

>

> Re: Cereals & Breads..

>

>

> I actually wrote to the SBD website and asked if they offered

> any " free " services. I also let let them know that when I

joined the

> Atkins group a while back that they have no problem with sharing

the

> updated info. It irks me that they make you pay $5 a week to

get

> this updated info. I refuse to do that.

> I wish they would have some type of site that would list any

changes

> in their approved foods that anyoe following their site could

use.

> So far they have not written me back..:-(

> Sherry

>

> > > Here is a list of breads and cereals

> > >

> > > Breads from the SBD website that are legal for Phase 2:

> > >

> > > Pepperidge Farm:

> > > 100% Stoneground Whole Wheat

> > > Natural Whole Grain 9 Grain

> > > Natural Whole Grain German Dark Wheat

> > > Natural Whole Grain Crunchy Grains or Multi-Grain

> > >

> > > Brownberry:

> > > 100% Whole Wheat

> > > Natural 12 Grain

> > > Natural Oatnut

> > >

> > > Rubschlager:

> > > European Style Whole Grain

> > > 100% Rye Rye-Ola Sunflower

> > > 100% Rye Rye-Ola Rye

> > > 100% Rye Rye-Ola Pumpernickel

> > >

> > > Other:

> > > Nature's Own 100% Whole Wheat Bread

> > > Mrs. Baird's 100% Whole Wheat

> > > Roman Meal 100% Whole Wheat

> > > Arnold 100% Whole Wheat

> > >

> > > Cereal Suggestions from the SBD Website:

> > >

> > > Hot Cereals (with suggested serving sizes):

> > > Ralston 100% Wheat (1/2 cup)

> > > Quaker Oat Bran (1/2 cup)

> > > Quaker Old Fashioned Oats (slow-cooking type) (1/2 cup)

> > > Old Wessex Oatbran (1/2 cup)

> > > Kashi Breakfast Pilaf (1/2 cup)

> > > Mother's or Quaker Multigrain (1/2 cup)

> > > Arrowhead Mills 7 Grain (1/3 cup)

> > > Wheatena (1/3 cup)

> > > Arrowhead Mills Steel Cut Oats (1/4 cup)

> > > Mother's Whole Wheat (1/2 cup)

> > > McCann's Steel Cut Irish Oatmeal (1/4 cup)

> > > Roman Meal Original with Oats (1/3 cup)

> > >

> > > Cold Cereals (with suggested serving sizes):

> > > Uncle Sam Cereal (1 cup)

> > > Kellogg's All Bran Original (1/2 cup)

> > > Post Shredded Wheat & Bran (1 1/4 cup)

> > > Kellogg's All Bran Extra Fiber (1/2 cup)

> > > Post Bran Buds (1/3 cup)

> > > Post 100% Bran Cereal (1/3 cup)

> > > General Mills Fiber One (1/2 cup)

> > > Kashi Good Friends (3/4 cup)

> > > Kashi GoLean (3/4 cup)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it

low-

> fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs

and

> the right fats-the good ones-and enables you to live quite

happily

> without the bad carbs and bad fats.

> >

> > For more on this WOE please read " The South Beach Diet " by

Arthur

> Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

> >

[Guest guest]

Boy do I agree - we should at least have free access to the updates.

They do have a free newsletter from the site which I have subscribed

to for quite awhile - I seem to recall getting an update from them, I

think it was the one about milk being allowed in Phase 1. I wasn't

doing the diet yet though so didn't keep it. <sigh>

I did notice yesterday when I found the Good Fats book that there are

a LOT of Atkins books too - many more than SBD (so far). If the diet

is simple, why do we need so many books? And - why isn't the good

fats info included in the main book???

B.

> > Personally, it aggravates the living daylights out of me that you

> can buy THREE books and still have to have some access to the paying

> site to get the updates. (hint, Dr. A, hint)

> >

> >

> > Re: Cereals & Breads..

> >

> >

> > I actually wrote to the SBD website and asked if they offered

> > any " free " services. I also let let them know that when I

> joined the

> > Atkins group a while back that they have no problem with sharing

> the

> > updated info. It irks me that they make you pay $5 a week to

> get

> > this updated info. I refuse to do that.

> > I wish they would have some type of site that would list any

> changes

> > in their approved foods that anyoe following their site could

> use.

> > So far they have not written me back..:-(

> > Sherry

<snip>

[Guest guest]

Boy do I agree - we should at least have free access to the updates.

They do have a free newsletter from the site which I have subscribed

to for quite awhile - I seem to recall getting an update from them, I

think it was the one about milk being allowed in Phase 1. I wasn't

doing the diet yet though so didn't keep it. <sigh>

I did notice yesterday when I found the Good Fats book that there are

a LOT of Atkins books too - many more than SBD (so far). If the diet

is simple, why do we need so many books? And - why isn't the good

fats info included in the main book???

B.

> > Personally, it aggravates the living daylights out of me that you

> can buy THREE books and still have to have some access to the paying

> site to get the updates. (hint, Dr. A, hint)

> >

> >

> > Re: Cereals & Breads..

> >

> >

> > I actually wrote to the SBD website and asked if they offered

> > any " free " services. I also let let them know that when I

> joined the

> > Atkins group a while back that they have no problem with sharing

> the

> > updated info. It irks me that they make you pay $5 a week to

> get

> > this updated info. I refuse to do that.

> > I wish they would have some type of site that would list any

> changes

> > in their approved foods that anyoe following their site could

> use.

> > So far they have not written me back..:-(

> > Sherry

<snip>

[Guest guest]

Boy do I agree - we should at least have free access to the updates.

They do have a free newsletter from the site which I have subscribed

to for quite awhile - I seem to recall getting an update from them, I

think it was the one about milk being allowed in Phase 1. I wasn't

doing the diet yet though so didn't keep it. <sigh>

I did notice yesterday when I found the Good Fats book that there are

a LOT of Atkins books too - many more than SBD (so far). If the diet

is simple, why do we need so many books? And - why isn't the good

fats info included in the main book???

B.

> > Personally, it aggravates the living daylights out of me that you

> can buy THREE books and still have to have some access to the paying

> site to get the updates. (hint, Dr. A, hint)

> >

> >

> > Re: Cereals & Breads..

> >

> >

> > I actually wrote to the SBD website and asked if they offered

> > any " free " services. I also let let them know that when I

> joined the

> > Atkins group a while back that they have no problem with sharing

> the

> > updated info. It irks me that they make you pay $5 a week to

> get

> > this updated info. I refuse to do that.

> > I wish they would have some type of site that would list any

> changes

> > in their approved foods that anyoe following their site could

> use.

> > So far they have not written me back..:-(

> > Sherry

<snip>

[Guest guest]

What a terrific, profound question.

If the diet is simple, why do we need so many books? And - why isn't

the good fats info included in the main book???

>

> B.

[Guest guest]

It really hit home yesterday when I was trying to figure out which

cereals were ok while at the store (the Kashi " Good Friends " is

downright tasty). Looking at the different boxes, some of them had

more more sugar than others yet were allowed, while others with less

sugar and perhaps a gram or two less or even more fiber were not.

I'm not 'getting' what the key is I guess, which makes it hard to

pick and choose amongst items not listed in the books. I would look

at sugar first and then fiber, but I'm not sure how to value the

carbs part.

(I was hungry even sooner after having " Good Friends " this morning

than I was with the " All Bran " - I think I will have to stick with

protein in the morning too.)

B.

>

> If the diet is simple, why do we need so many books? And - why

isn't

> the good fats info included in the main book???

> >

> > B.

[Guest guest]

It really hit home yesterday when I was trying to figure out which

cereals were ok while at the store (the Kashi " Good Friends " is

downright tasty). Looking at the different boxes, some of them had

more more sugar than others yet were allowed, while others with less

sugar and perhaps a gram or two less or even more fiber were not.

I'm not 'getting' what the key is I guess, which makes it hard to

pick and choose amongst items not listed in the books. I would look

at sugar first and then fiber, but I'm not sure how to value the

carbs part.

(I was hungry even sooner after having " Good Friends " this morning

than I was with the " All Bran " - I think I will have to stick with

protein in the morning too.)

B.

>

> If the diet is simple, why do we need so many books? And - why

isn't

> the good fats info included in the main book???

> >

> > B.

[Guest guest]

It really hit home yesterday when I was trying to figure out which

cereals were ok while at the store (the Kashi " Good Friends " is

downright tasty). Looking at the different boxes, some of them had

more more sugar than others yet were allowed, while others with less

sugar and perhaps a gram or two less or even more fiber were not.

I'm not 'getting' what the key is I guess, which makes it hard to

pick and choose amongst items not listed in the books. I would look

at sugar first and then fiber, but I'm not sure how to value the

carbs part.

(I was hungry even sooner after having " Good Friends " this morning

than I was with the " All Bran " - I think I will have to stick with

protein in the morning too.)

B.

>

> If the diet is simple, why do we need so many books? And - why

isn't

> the good fats info included in the main book???

> >

> > B.

[Guest guest]

Very good question! I was wondering...if this WOE (let's call it

what it is...a diet)is supposed to be so simple, so unrestricted and

flexible, then why is everyone (including me) so stressed out over

each and every gram of carbs or fat and fibre? I was stressed out

just trying to find a bread that was whole grain wheat, high in fibre

and would taste better than cardboard! The only bread I could find

with higher than 2 gr of fibre ended up, when I got home and looked

at it, with, you guessed it, HFCS and it was enriched - but it had 5

grams of fibre - higher than any of them. We can't win for losing!

So, I decided to just do my best and not worry about the rest.

And, when it comes to coffee creamers, the non-dairy creamers have

transfats in them, but we're only talking about .5 gr of fat here!

So, I'm not worrying about that either, besides, the ff 1/2 & 1/2

tastes like, well, you know.

Dr. A himself admits to being a chocoholic, and says to do your best

to " avoid " things that have transfats, etc., but be realistic. Even

he has trouble maintaining his weight, so he doesn't expect the rest

of us to be less than human. I don't know about you guys, but I'm

exhausted from all this worry about each and every little gram, when

we're not supposed to be counting anyway.

Does anyone else feel the same way?

Thanks for listening!

Blondie

> >

> > If the diet is simple, why do we need so many books? And - why

> isn't

> > the good fats info included in the main book???

> > >

> > > B.

[Guest guest]

Very good question! I was wondering...if this WOE (let's call it

what it is...a diet)is supposed to be so simple, so unrestricted and

flexible, then why is everyone (including me) so stressed out over

each and every gram of carbs or fat and fibre? I was stressed out

just trying to find a bread that was whole grain wheat, high in fibre

and would taste better than cardboard! The only bread I could find

with higher than 2 gr of fibre ended up, when I got home and looked

at it, with, you guessed it, HFCS and it was enriched - but it had 5

grams of fibre - higher than any of them. We can't win for losing!

So, I decided to just do my best and not worry about the rest.

And, when it comes to coffee creamers, the non-dairy creamers have

transfats in them, but we're only talking about .5 gr of fat here!

So, I'm not worrying about that either, besides, the ff 1/2 & 1/2

tastes like, well, you know.

Dr. A himself admits to being a chocoholic, and says to do your best

to " avoid " things that have transfats, etc., but be realistic. Even

he has trouble maintaining his weight, so he doesn't expect the rest

of us to be less than human. I don't know about you guys, but I'm

exhausted from all this worry about each and every little gram, when

we're not supposed to be counting anyway.

Does anyone else feel the same way?

Thanks for listening!

Blondie

> >

> > If the diet is simple, why do we need so many books? And - why

> isn't

> > the good fats info included in the main book???

> > >

> > > B.

[Guest guest]

Very good question! I was wondering...if this WOE (let's call it

what it is...a diet)is supposed to be so simple, so unrestricted and

flexible, then why is everyone (including me) so stressed out over

each and every gram of carbs or fat and fibre? I was stressed out

just trying to find a bread that was whole grain wheat, high in fibre

and would taste better than cardboard! The only bread I could find

with higher than 2 gr of fibre ended up, when I got home and looked

at it, with, you guessed it, HFCS and it was enriched - but it had 5

grams of fibre - higher than any of them. We can't win for losing!

So, I decided to just do my best and not worry about the rest.

And, when it comes to coffee creamers, the non-dairy creamers have

transfats in them, but we're only talking about .5 gr of fat here!

So, I'm not worrying about that either, besides, the ff 1/2 & 1/2

tastes like, well, you know.

Dr. A himself admits to being a chocoholic, and says to do your best

to " avoid " things that have transfats, etc., but be realistic. Even

he has trouble maintaining his weight, so he doesn't expect the rest

of us to be less than human. I don't know about you guys, but I'm

exhausted from all this worry about each and every little gram, when

we're not supposed to be counting anyway.

Does anyone else feel the same way?

Thanks for listening!

Blondie

> >

> > If the diet is simple, why do we need so many books? And - why

> isn't

> > the good fats info included in the main book???

> > >

> > > B.

[Guest guest]

By the way, for what it's worth, Uncle Sam's cereal is really good,

and when I use the Carb Countdown milk (if you can really call it

that), I can last a long time and don't have any glucose spikes. I

would if I drank skim milk...way too much sugar for me. I'm one of

those that does have to count sugar - keep it below 10 grams or else

I'm in big trouble.

> >

> > If the diet is simple, why do we need so many books? And - why

> isn't

> > the good fats info included in the main book???

> > >

> > > B.

[Guest guest]

By the way, for what it's worth, Uncle Sam's cereal is really good,

and when I use the Carb Countdown milk (if you can really call it

that), I can last a long time and don't have any glucose spikes. I

would if I drank skim milk...way too much sugar for me. I'm one of

those that does have to count sugar - keep it below 10 grams or else

I'm in big trouble.

> >

> > If the diet is simple, why do we need so many books? And - why

> isn't

> > the good fats info included in the main book???

> > >

> > > B.

[Guest guest]

Here lately, people do seem to be stressed about every gram. I am not sure how

to help with that, except to say to take the focus away from most of the

numbers.

Maybe because I have done this since March is the reason why I don't find it

confusing or stressful. I believe other plans (with measuring and such) are

much more difficult.

Maybe I can help.

Here is what I do with bread:

The main thing I look at is the ingredients for the bread. Does it have whole

grains, and does it have added sugar? If so, great... then, how much fiber? At

least 3g is recommended. That is it. No look at fat, no look at carb count.

Look for the outside to say 100% whole wheat or 100% whole grains. But, don't

be fooled... look at ingredients. I answered about cereal in another email.

IMO.. .it is better to eat whole grain bread with less fiber than to eat

enriched bread with more fiber. Avoid enriched/processed products! Once I find

a bread I like, I stick with it. Then, I might try other brands down the road.

YOu will primarily find breads that are enriched, but there are several

varieties of whole grain ones that taste very good. Baker's Inn just came out,

and I want to check out the ingredients for their whole grain breads.

With fat... avoid transfats. That is more easy, because just look at

ingredients (hydrogenated/partially hydrogenated).

With dairy items, stick to lowfat... but, for other things, full fat is OK.

Just try to stay under 3g of sugar per serving.

The other 'numbers' are for cereal fiber, and for 'sweet treats' (stay under 75

calories per day).

*Don't* even glance at the carb #s. YOu don't need to count carbs! The only

time I pay much attention to fat #s is if I am contemplating eating a no-sugar-

added sweet treat. I am astounded at the amount of fat in most of those things.

Otherwise, I don't even glance at it.

And, I must respectfully disagree about the WOE vs. diet. FOr me, this is a

WOE. Once I have lost all of the weight i want to lose, I will follow PHase 3.

South Beach is designed for all phases, from loss to maintenance. I can't be on

any more 'diets', because then i see it as " I'll eat that again once I am OFF

the diet " . Will I ever eat a full sugar cookie again? Probably, once I have

lost weight. BUt, I will always stick to this form of eating because I believe

it is a healthy, well balanced way of eating.

Of course, the most important thing is that you choose a plan that works for

you. South Beach certainly doesn't work for everybody! And, you do the best

you can.

Please, continue to ask questions. I do hope to help move people away from the

#s game, except for things that are more important. Focus on whole foods in

their natural form... whole grains.. nothing enriched/processed.. and you'll be

good to go.

Good luck

Re: Cereals & Breads..

> Very good question! I was wondering...if this WOE (let's call it

> what it is...a diet)is supposed to be so simple, so unrestricted

> and

> flexible, then why is everyone (including me) so stressed out over

> each and every gram of carbs or fat and fibre? I was stressed out

> just trying to find a bread that was whole grain wheat, high in

> fibre

> and would taste better than cardboard! The only bread I could

> find

> with higher than 2 gr of fibre ended up, when I got home and

> looked

> at it, with, you guessed it, HFCS and it was enriched - but it had

> 5

> grams of fibre - higher than any of them. We can't win for losing!

> So, I decided to just do my best and not worry about the rest.

>

> And, when it comes to coffee creamers, the non-dairy creamers have

> transfats in them, but we're only talking about .5 gr of fat here!

>

> So, I'm not worrying about that either, besides, the ff 1/2 & 1/2

> tastes like, well, you know.

>

> Dr. A himself admits to being a chocoholic, and says to do your

> best

> to " avoid " things that have transfats, etc., but be realistic.

> Even

> he has trouble maintaining his weight, so he doesn't expect the

> rest

> of us to be less than human. I don't know about you guys, but I'm

> exhausted from all this worry about each and every little gram,

> when

> we're not supposed to be counting anyway.

>

> Does anyone else feel the same way?

>

> Thanks for listening!

> Blondie

[Guest guest]

Here lately, people do seem to be stressed about every gram. I am not sure how

to help with that, except to say to take the focus away from most of the

numbers.

Maybe because I have done this since March is the reason why I don't find it

confusing or stressful. I believe other plans (with measuring and such) are

much more difficult.

Maybe I can help.

Here is what I do with bread:

The main thing I look at is the ingredients for the bread. Does it have whole

grains, and does it have added sugar? If so, great... then, how much fiber? At

least 3g is recommended. That is it. No look at fat, no look at carb count.

Look for the outside to say 100% whole wheat or 100% whole grains. But, don't

be fooled... look at ingredients. I answered about cereal in another email.

IMO.. .it is better to eat whole grain bread with less fiber than to eat

enriched bread with more fiber. Avoid enriched/processed products! Once I find

a bread I like, I stick with it. Then, I might try other brands down the road.

YOu will primarily find breads that are enriched, but there are several

varieties of whole grain ones that taste very good. Baker's Inn just came out,

and I want to check out the ingredients for their whole grain breads.

With fat... avoid transfats. That is more easy, because just look at

ingredients (hydrogenated/partially hydrogenated).

With dairy items, stick to lowfat... but, for other things, full fat is OK.

Just try to stay under 3g of sugar per serving.

The other 'numbers' are for cereal fiber, and for 'sweet treats' (stay under 75

calories per day).

*Don't* even glance at the carb #s. YOu don't need to count carbs! The only

time I pay much attention to fat #s is if I am contemplating eating a no-sugar-

added sweet treat. I am astounded at the amount of fat in most of those things.

Otherwise, I don't even glance at it.

And, I must respectfully disagree about the WOE vs. diet. FOr me, this is a

WOE. Once I have lost all of the weight i want to lose, I will follow PHase 3.

South Beach is designed for all phases, from loss to maintenance. I can't be on

any more 'diets', because then i see it as " I'll eat that again once I am OFF

the diet " . Will I ever eat a full sugar cookie again? Probably, once I have

lost weight. BUt, I will always stick to this form of eating because I believe

it is a healthy, well balanced way of eating.

Of course, the most important thing is that you choose a plan that works for

you. South Beach certainly doesn't work for everybody! And, you do the best

you can.

Please, continue to ask questions. I do hope to help move people away from the

#s game, except for things that are more important. Focus on whole foods in

their natural form... whole grains.. nothing enriched/processed.. and you'll be

good to go.

Good luck

Re: Cereals & Breads..

> Very good question! I was wondering...if this WOE (let's call it

> what it is...a diet)is supposed to be so simple, so unrestricted

> and

> flexible, then why is everyone (including me) so stressed out over

> each and every gram of carbs or fat and fibre? I was stressed out

> just trying to find a bread that was whole grain wheat, high in

> fibre

> and would taste better than cardboard! The only bread I could

> find

> with higher than 2 gr of fibre ended up, when I got home and

> looked

> at it, with, you guessed it, HFCS and it was enriched - but it had

> 5

> grams of fibre - higher than any of them. We can't win for losing!

> So, I decided to just do my best and not worry about the rest.

>

> And, when it comes to coffee creamers, the non-dairy creamers have

> transfats in them, but we're only talking about .5 gr of fat here!

>

> So, I'm not worrying about that either, besides, the ff 1/2 & 1/2

> tastes like, well, you know.

>

> Dr. A himself admits to being a chocoholic, and says to do your

> best

> to " avoid " things that have transfats, etc., but be realistic.

> Even

> he has trouble maintaining his weight, so he doesn't expect the

> rest

> of us to be less than human. I don't know about you guys, but I'm

> exhausted from all this worry about each and every little gram,

> when

> we're not supposed to be counting anyway.

>

> Does anyone else feel the same way?

>

> Thanks for listening!

> Blondie

[Guest guest]

Here lately, people do seem to be stressed about every gram. I am not sure how

to help with that, except to say to take the focus away from most of the

numbers.

Maybe because I have done this since March is the reason why I don't find it

confusing or stressful. I believe other plans (with measuring and such) are

much more difficult.

Maybe I can help.

Here is what I do with bread:

The main thing I look at is the ingredients for the bread. Does it have whole

grains, and does it have added sugar? If so, great... then, how much fiber? At

least 3g is recommended. That is it. No look at fat, no look at carb count.

Look for the outside to say 100% whole wheat or 100% whole grains. But, don't

be fooled... look at ingredients. I answered about cereal in another email.

IMO.. .it is better to eat whole grain bread with less fiber than to eat

enriched bread with more fiber. Avoid enriched/processed products! Once I find

a bread I like, I stick with it. Then, I might try other brands down the road.

YOu will primarily find breads that are enriched, but there are several

varieties of whole grain ones that taste very good. Baker's Inn just came out,

and I want to check out the ingredients for their whole grain breads.

With fat... avoid transfats. That is more easy, because just look at

ingredients (hydrogenated/partially hydrogenated).

With dairy items, stick to lowfat... but, for other things, full fat is OK.

Just try to stay under 3g of sugar per serving.

The other 'numbers' are for cereal fiber, and for 'sweet treats' (stay under 75

calories per day).

*Don't* even glance at the carb #s. YOu don't need to count carbs! The only

time I pay much attention to fat #s is if I am contemplating eating a no-sugar-

added sweet treat. I am astounded at the amount of fat in most of those things.

Otherwise, I don't even glance at it.

And, I must respectfully disagree about the WOE vs. diet. FOr me, this is a

WOE. Once I have lost all of the weight i want to lose, I will follow PHase 3.

South Beach is designed for all phases, from loss to maintenance. I can't be on

any more 'diets', because then i see it as " I'll eat that again once I am OFF

the diet " . Will I ever eat a full sugar cookie again? Probably, once I have

lost weight. BUt, I will always stick to this form of eating because I believe

it is a healthy, well balanced way of eating.

Of course, the most important thing is that you choose a plan that works for

you. South Beach certainly doesn't work for everybody! And, you do the best

you can.

Please, continue to ask questions. I do hope to help move people away from the

#s game, except for things that are more important. Focus on whole foods in

their natural form... whole grains.. nothing enriched/processed.. and you'll be

good to go.

Good luck

Re: Cereals & Breads..

> Very good question! I was wondering...if this WOE (let's call it

> what it is...a diet)is supposed to be so simple, so unrestricted

> and

> flexible, then why is everyone (including me) so stressed out over

> each and every gram of carbs or fat and fibre? I was stressed out

> just trying to find a bread that was whole grain wheat, high in

> fibre

> and would taste better than cardboard! The only bread I could

> find

> with higher than 2 gr of fibre ended up, when I got home and

> looked

> at it, with, you guessed it, HFCS and it was enriched - but it had

> 5

> grams of fibre - higher than any of them. We can't win for losing!

> So, I decided to just do my best and not worry about the rest.

>

> And, when it comes to coffee creamers, the non-dairy creamers have

> transfats in them, but we're only talking about .5 gr of fat here!

>

> So, I'm not worrying about that either, besides, the ff 1/2 & 1/2

> tastes like, well, you know.

>

> Dr. A himself admits to being a chocoholic, and says to do your

> best

> to " avoid " things that have transfats, etc., but be realistic.

> Even

> he has trouble maintaining his weight, so he doesn't expect the

> rest

> of us to be less than human. I don't know about you guys, but I'm

> exhausted from all this worry about each and every little gram,

> when

> we're not supposed to be counting anyway.

>

> Does anyone else feel the same way?

>

> Thanks for listening!

> Blondie

[Guest guest]

Hear, hear!!!

> Here lately, people do seem to be stressed about every gram. I am

not sure how to help with that, except to say to take the focus away

from most of the numbers.

>

> Maybe because I have done this since March is the reason why I

don't find it confusing or stressful. I believe other plans (with

measuring and such) are much more difficult.

>

> Maybe I can help.

> Here is what I do with bread:

> The main thing I look at is the ingredients for the bread. Does it

have whole grains, and does it have added sugar? If so, great...

then, how much fiber? At least 3g is recommended. That is it. No

look at fat, no look at carb count. Look for the outside to say 100%

whole wheat or 100% whole grains. But, don't be fooled... look at

ingredients. I answered about cereal in another email.

> IMO.. .it is better to eat whole grain bread with less fiber than

to eat enriched bread with more fiber. Avoid enriched/processed

products! Once I find a bread I like, I stick with it. Then, I

might try other brands down the road. YOu will primarily find breads

that are enriched, but there are several varieties of whole grain

ones that taste very good. Baker's Inn just came out, and I want to

check out the ingredients for their whole grain breads.

>

> With fat... avoid transfats. That is more easy, because just look

at ingredients (hydrogenated/partially hydrogenated).

> With dairy items, stick to lowfat... but, for other things, full

fat is OK. Just try to stay under 3g of sugar per serving.

>

> The other 'numbers' are for cereal fiber, and for 'sweet treats'

(stay under 75 calories per day).

>

> *Don't* even glance at the carb #s. YOu don't need to count

carbs! The only time I pay much attention to fat #s is if I am

contemplating eating a no-sugar- added sweet treat. I am astounded

at the amount of fat in most of those things. Otherwise, I don't

even glance at it.

>

> And, I must respectfully disagree about the WOE vs. diet. FOr me,

this is a WOE. Once I have lost all of the weight i want to lose, I

will follow PHase 3. South Beach is designed for all phases, from

loss to maintenance. I can't be on any more 'diets', because then i

see it as " I'll eat that again once I am OFF the diet " . Will I ever

eat a full sugar cookie again? Probably, once I have lost weight.

BUt, I will always stick to this form of eating because I believe it

is a healthy, well balanced way of eating.

>

> Of course, the most important thing is that you choose a plan that

works for you. South Beach certainly doesn't work for everybody!

And, you do the best you can.

>

> Please, continue to ask questions. I do hope to help move people

away from the #s game, except for things that are more important.

Focus on whole foods in their natural form... whole grains.. nothing

enriched/processed.. and you'll be good to go.

>

> Good luck

>

>

> Re: Cereals & Breads..

>

> > Very good question! I was wondering...if this WOE (let's call it

> > what it is...a diet)is supposed to be so simple, so unrestricted

> > and

> > flexible, then why is everyone (including me) so stressed out

over

> > each and every gram of carbs or fat and fibre? I was stressed

out

> > just trying to find a bread that was whole grain wheat, high in

> > fibre

> > and would taste better than cardboard! The only bread I could

> > find

> > with higher than 2 gr of fibre ended up, when I got home and

> > looked

> > at it, with, you guessed it, HFCS and it was enriched - but it

had

> > 5

> > grams of fibre - higher than any of them. We can't win for

losing!

> > So, I decided to just do my best and not worry about the rest.

> >

> > And, when it comes to coffee creamers, the non-dairy creamers

have

> > transfats in them, but we're only talking about .5 gr of fat

here!

> >

> > So, I'm not worrying about that either, besides, the ff 1/2 & 1/2

> > tastes like, well, you know.

> >

> > Dr. A himself admits to being a chocoholic, and says to do your

> > best

> > to " avoid " things that have transfats, etc., but be realistic.

> > Even

> > he has trouble maintaining his weight, so he doesn't expect the

> > rest

> > of us to be less than human. I don't know about you guys, but

I'm

> > exhausted from all this worry about each and every little gram,

> > when

> > we're not supposed to be counting anyway.

> >

> > Does anyone else feel the same way?

> >

> > Thanks for listening!

> > Blondie

[Guest guest]

Hear, hear!!!

> Here lately, people do seem to be stressed about every gram. I am

not sure how to help with that, except to say to take the focus away

from most of the numbers.

>

> Maybe because I have done this since March is the reason why I

don't find it confusing or stressful. I believe other plans (with

measuring and such) are much more difficult.

>

> Maybe I can help.

> Here is what I do with bread:

> The main thing I look at is the ingredients for the bread. Does it

have whole grains, and does it have added sugar? If so, great...

then, how much fiber? At least 3g is recommended. That is it. No

look at fat, no look at carb count. Look for the outside to say 100%

whole wheat or 100% whole grains. But, don't be fooled... look at

ingredients. I answered about cereal in another email.

> IMO.. .it is better to eat whole grain bread with less fiber than

to eat enriched bread with more fiber. Avoid enriched/processed

products! Once I find a bread I like, I stick with it. Then, I

might try other brands down the road. YOu will primarily find breads

that are enriched, but there are several varieties of whole grain

ones that taste very good. Baker's Inn just came out, and I want to

check out the ingredients for their whole grain breads.

>

> With fat... avoid transfats. That is more easy, because just look

at ingredients (hydrogenated/partially hydrogenated).

> With dairy items, stick to lowfat... but, for other things, full

fat is OK. Just try to stay under 3g of sugar per serving.

>

> The other 'numbers' are for cereal fiber, and for 'sweet treats'

(stay under 75 calories per day).

>

> *Don't* even glance at the carb #s. YOu don't need to count

carbs! The only time I pay much attention to fat #s is if I am

contemplating eating a no-sugar- added sweet treat. I am astounded

at the amount of fat in most of those things. Otherwise, I don't

even glance at it.

>

> And, I must respectfully disagree about the WOE vs. diet. FOr me,

this is a WOE. Once I have lost all of the weight i want to lose, I

will follow PHase 3. South Beach is designed for all phases, from

loss to maintenance. I can't be on any more 'diets', because then i

see it as " I'll eat that again once I am OFF the diet " . Will I ever

eat a full sugar cookie again? Probably, once I have lost weight.

BUt, I will always stick to this form of eating because I believe it

is a healthy, well balanced way of eating.

>

> Of course, the most important thing is that you choose a plan that

works for you. South Beach certainly doesn't work for everybody!

And, you do the best you can.

>

> Please, continue to ask questions. I do hope to help move people

away from the #s game, except for things that are more important.

Focus on whole foods in their natural form... whole grains.. nothing

enriched/processed.. and you'll be good to go.

>

> Good luck

>

>

> Re: Cereals & Breads..

>

> > Very good question! I was wondering...if this WOE (let's call it

> > what it is...a diet)is supposed to be so simple, so unrestricted

> > and

> > flexible, then why is everyone (including me) so stressed out

over

> > each and every gram of carbs or fat and fibre? I was stressed

out

> > just trying to find a bread that was whole grain wheat, high in

> > fibre

> > and would taste better than cardboard! The only bread I could

> > find

> > with higher than 2 gr of fibre ended up, when I got home and

> > looked

> > at it, with, you guessed it, HFCS and it was enriched - but it

had

> > 5

> > grams of fibre - higher than any of them. We can't win for

losing!

> > So, I decided to just do my best and not worry about the rest.

> >

> > And, when it comes to coffee creamers, the non-dairy creamers

have

> > transfats in them, but we're only talking about .5 gr of fat

here!

> >

> > So, I'm not worrying about that either, besides, the ff 1/2 & 1/2

> > tastes like, well, you know.

> >

> > Dr. A himself admits to being a chocoholic, and says to do your

> > best

> > to " avoid " things that have transfats, etc., but be realistic.

> > Even

> > he has trouble maintaining his weight, so he doesn't expect the

> > rest

> > of us to be less than human. I don't know about you guys, but

I'm

> > exhausted from all this worry about each and every little gram,

> > when

> > we're not supposed to be counting anyway.

> >

> > Does anyone else feel the same way?

> >

> > Thanks for listening!

> > Blondie

[Guest guest]

This is a great way of eating lifestyle - very healthy - and I'm not

condemming the plan, so please everyone, don't get defensive and

think I'm bashing SBD..I'm not...it's very healthy, especially for

me. After all, my doctor put me on it to control my blood sugar

problem - reactive hypoglycemia, which is now, I'm happy to say,

completely under control. I've not lost as much as I'd like to, but

then I'm not eating as much as the plan recommends because I'm just

not hungry anymore (and I was starving the whole time I was trying to

do Weight Watchers). The only thing I really monitor is sugar, and

that I have to " count " or I get into trouble, but that's just me.

I was just making an observation in hopes that people will relax a

little, accept that it is supposed to be a flexible, workable

lifestyle change, not to be wrapped up in numbers, that's all.

Keep up the good work everyone - it is very motivating for me to see

how great everyone is doing!

> Here lately, people do seem to be stressed about every gram. I am

not sure how to help with that, except to say to take the focus away

from most of the numbers.

>

> Maybe because I have done this since March is the reason why I

don't find it confusing or stressful. I believe other plans (with

measuring and such) are much more difficult.

>

> Maybe I can help.

> Here is what I do with bread:

> The main thing I look at is the ingredients for the bread. Does it

have whole grains, and does it have added sugar? If so, great...

then, how much fiber? At least 3g is recommended. That is it. No

look at fat, no look at carb count. Look for the outside to say 100%

whole wheat or 100% whole grains. But, don't be fooled... look at

ingredients. I answered about cereal in another email.

> IMO.. .it is better to eat whole grain bread with less fiber than

to eat enriched bread with more fiber. Avoid enriched/processed

products! Once I find a bread I like, I stick with it. Then, I

might try other brands down the road. YOu will primarily find breads

that are enriched, but there are several varieties of whole grain

ones that taste very good. Baker's Inn just came out, and I want to

check out the ingredients for their whole grain breads.

>

> With fat... avoid transfats. That is more easy, because just look

at ingredients (hydrogenated/partially hydrogenated).

> With dairy items, stick to lowfat... but, for other things, full

fat is OK. Just try to stay under 3g of sugar per serving.

>

> The other 'numbers' are for cereal fiber, and for 'sweet treats'

(stay under 75 calories per day).

>

> *Don't* even glance at the carb #s. YOu don't need to count

carbs! The only time I pay much attention to fat #s is if I am

contemplating eating a no-sugar- added sweet treat. I am astounded

at the amount of fat in most of those things. Otherwise, I don't

even glance at it.

>

> And, I must respectfully disagree about the WOE vs. diet. FOr me,

this is a WOE. Once I have lost all of the weight i want to lose, I

will follow PHase 3. South Beach is designed for all phases, from

loss to maintenance. I can't be on any more 'diets', because then i

see it as " I'll eat that again once I am OFF the diet " . Will I ever

eat a full sugar cookie again? Probably, once I have lost weight.

BUt, I will always stick to this form of eating because I believe it

is a healthy, well balanced way of eating.

>

> Of course, the most important thing is that you choose a plan that

works for you. South Beach certainly doesn't work for everybody!

And, you do the best you can.

>

> Please, continue to ask questions. I do hope to help move people

away from the #s game, except for things that are more important.

Focus on whole foods in their natural form... whole grains.. nothing

enriched/processed.. and you'll be good to go.

>

> Good luck

>

>

> Re: Cereals & Breads..

>

> > Very good question! I was wondering...if this WOE (let's call it

> > what it is...a diet)is supposed to be so simple, so unrestricted

> > and

> > flexible, then why is everyone (including me) so stressed out

over

> > each and every gram of carbs or fat and fibre? I was stressed

out

> > just trying to find a bread that was whole grain wheat, high in

> > fibre

> > and would taste better than cardboard! The only bread I could

> > find

> > with higher than 2 gr of fibre ended up, when I got home and

> > looked

> > at it, with, you guessed it, HFCS and it was enriched - but it

had

> > 5

> > grams of fibre - higher than any of them. We can't win for

losing!

> > So, I decided to just do my best and not worry about the rest.

> >

> > And, when it comes to coffee creamers, the non-dairy creamers

have

> > transfats in them, but we're only talking about .5 gr of fat

here!

> >

> > So, I'm not worrying about that either, besides, the ff 1/2 & 1/2

> > tastes like, well, you know.

> >

> > Dr. A himself admits to being a chocoholic, and says to do your

> > best

> > to " avoid " things that have transfats, etc., but be realistic.

> > Even

> > he has trouble maintaining his weight, so he doesn't expect the

> > rest

> > of us to be less than human. I don't know about you guys, but

I'm

> > exhausted from all this worry about each and every little gram,

> > when

> > we're not supposed to be counting anyway.

> >

> > Does anyone else feel the same way?

> >

> > Thanks for listening!

> > Blondie

[Guest guest]

This is a great way of eating lifestyle - very healthy - and I'm not

condemming the plan, so please everyone, don't get defensive and

think I'm bashing SBD..I'm not...it's very healthy, especially for

me. After all, my doctor put me on it to control my blood sugar

problem - reactive hypoglycemia, which is now, I'm happy to say,

completely under control. I've not lost as much as I'd like to, but

then I'm not eating as much as the plan recommends because I'm just

not hungry anymore (and I was starving the whole time I was trying to

do Weight Watchers). The only thing I really monitor is sugar, and

that I have to " count " or I get into trouble, but that's just me.

I was just making an observation in hopes that people will relax a

little, accept that it is supposed to be a flexible, workable

lifestyle change, not to be wrapped up in numbers, that's all.

Keep up the good work everyone - it is very motivating for me to see

how great everyone is doing!

> Here lately, people do seem to be stressed about every gram. I am

not sure how to help with that, except to say to take the focus away

from most of the numbers.

>

> Maybe because I have done this since March is the reason why I

don't find it confusing or stressful. I believe other plans (with

measuring and such) are much more difficult.

>

> Maybe I can help.

> Here is what I do with bread:

> The main thing I look at is the ingredients for the bread. Does it

have whole grains, and does it have added sugar? If so, great...

then, how much fiber? At least 3g is recommended. That is it. No

look at fat, no look at carb count. Look for the outside to say 100%

whole wheat or 100% whole grains. But, don't be fooled... look at

ingredients. I answered about cereal in another email.

> IMO.. .it is better to eat whole grain bread with less fiber than

to eat enriched bread with more fiber. Avoid enriched/processed

products! Once I find a bread I like, I stick with it. Then, I

might try other brands down the road. YOu will primarily find breads

that are enriched, but there are several varieties of whole grain

ones that taste very good. Baker's Inn just came out, and I want to

check out the ingredients for their whole grain breads.

>

> With fat... avoid transfats. That is more easy, because just look

at ingredients (hydrogenated/partially hydrogenated).

> With dairy items, stick to lowfat... but, for other things, full

fat is OK. Just try to stay under 3g of sugar per serving.

>

> The other 'numbers' are for cereal fiber, and for 'sweet treats'

(stay under 75 calories per day).

>

> *Don't* even glance at the carb #s. YOu don't need to count

carbs! The only time I pay much attention to fat #s is if I am

contemplating eating a no-sugar- added sweet treat. I am astounded

at the amount of fat in most of those things. Otherwise, I don't

even glance at it.

>

> And, I must respectfully disagree about the WOE vs. diet. FOr me,

this is a WOE. Once I have lost all of the weight i want to lose, I

will follow PHase 3. South Beach is designed for all phases, from

loss to maintenance. I can't be on any more 'diets', because then i

see it as " I'll eat that again once I am OFF the diet " . Will I ever

eat a full sugar cookie again? Probably, once I have lost weight.

BUt, I will always stick to this form of eating because I believe it

is a healthy, well balanced way of eating.

>

> Of course, the most important thing is that you choose a plan that

works for you. South Beach certainly doesn't work for everybody!

And, you do the best you can.

>

> Please, continue to ask questions. I do hope to help move people

away from the #s game, except for things that are more important.

Focus on whole foods in their natural form... whole grains.. nothing

enriched/processed.. and you'll be good to go.

>

> Good luck

>

>

> Re: Cereals & Breads..

>

> > Very good question! I was wondering...if this WOE (let's call it

> > what it is...a diet)is supposed to be so simple, so unrestricted

> > and

> > flexible, then why is everyone (including me) so stressed out

over

> > each and every gram of carbs or fat and fibre? I was stressed

out

> > just trying to find a bread that was whole grain wheat, high in

> > fibre

> > and would taste better than cardboard! The only bread I could

> > find

> > with higher than 2 gr of fibre ended up, when I got home and

> > looked

> > at it, with, you guessed it, HFCS and it was enriched - but it

had

> > 5

> > grams of fibre - higher than any of them. We can't win for

losing!

> > So, I decided to just do my best and not worry about the rest.

> >

> > And, when it comes to coffee creamers, the non-dairy creamers

have

> > transfats in them, but we're only talking about .5 gr of fat

here!

> >

> > So, I'm not worrying about that either, besides, the ff 1/2 & 1/2

> > tastes like, well, you know.

> >

> > Dr. A himself admits to being a chocoholic, and says to do your

> > best

> > to " avoid " things that have transfats, etc., but be realistic.

> > Even

> > he has trouble maintaining his weight, so he doesn't expect the

> > rest

> > of us to be less than human. I don't know about you guys, but

I'm

> > exhausted from all this worry about each and every little gram,

> > when

> > we're not supposed to be counting anyway.

> >

> > Does anyone else feel the same way?

> >

> > Thanks for listening!

> > Blondie