Guest guest Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 I hate margaritas on the rocks. And I don't want regular ice blended into my margarita! I want the margarita mix frozen, then blended. Either that, or just give me the dang lime a salt shaker and a shot glass. (Then take it away from me after two shots!) From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Digna Cassens Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 9:30 PM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Salt in the American Diet Ohh, excuse me? I'm not going to be left out. I want mine on the rocks no salt, double Patron please. Salt in the American Diet > > > > Please forgive me for my soap box. Perhaps one of you can enlighten me. I > simply > > don't get the new recommendations for reduced sodium in the American diet > to > > 2000 mg for up to age 40 and 1500 mg after 40 yo. Studies are saying the > current > > average intake is 3400 mg and that this is " twice the recommendation " and > > unacceptable. When I was in school, in the dark ages, the average intake > was > > 5000-6000 mg, 3000-4000 (a NAS diet) was the recommended goal, 2000mg was > a low > > sodium diet requiring all salt free foods and 1000-1500mg was considered > an > > extremely restricted diet requiring control of amounts of food in all food > > groups to achieve, even with all salt free products like salt free bread. > How is > > this considered to be a realistic goal for the American public? Articles > are > > saying there has been no change in the sodium intake in the American > public in > > the last 30 years. I believe that decreasing the average intake to 3400 mg > from > > 5-6,000, by my math, is a 32-43% reduction in average intake. It doesn't > take a > > statistics degree to recognize that this is significant. > > > > The further arguement is that heart disease is still the number one killer > in > > the US. Excuse me for stating a few unpopular facts. 1.) We all are going > to > > die. 2.)We all basically die when our heart stops 3.)Something has to be > number > > one, what is the recommendation to replace heart disease in the number one > spot? > > > > I don't mean to be dense. I certainly agree that much can and should be > done to > > make our food supply healthier by reducing sodium, fat, sugar and > processing. We > > are an obese, overfed, undernourished nation. It just seems that the new > sodium > > recommendations are unrealistic, impractical and just plain stupid. > > > > However, I am ready to be enlightened. What do you all say? > > > > Mavis , RDLD > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 I vote for the margarita on the rocks or the lime, salt & tequila. No blended's for me! Which reminds me of a story about my first visit to Mexico several years ago. My husband and I sitting at the hotel bar having a pre-dinner cocktail when a very burly, tattooed and very drunk motorcycle rider started going around the bar with a bottle of tequila, a salt shaker and limes and giving everyone a shot. By the time he got to me (my husband had conveniently gone to the bathroom) he had run out of limes to wet your hand and give the place to shake the salt. So he very gallantly licked and slobbered all over my hand, shook out some salt and presented me with the bottle! Yum-O! " There cannot be a crisis next week. My schedule is already full. " ---Henry Kissinger Boehme, RD, CD ________________________________ From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Rowell, Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 12:01 PM To: 'rd-usa ' Subject: RE: Salt in the American Diet/margaritas I hate margaritas on the rocks. And I don't want regular ice blended into my margarita! I want the margarita mix frozen, then blended. Either that, or just give me the dang lime a salt shaker and a shot glass. (Then take it away from me after two shots!) From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Digna Cassens Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 9:30 PM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Salt in the American Diet Ohh, excuse me? I'm not going to be left out. I want mine on the rocks no salt, double Patron please. Salt in the American Diet > > > > Please forgive me for my soap box. Perhaps one of you can enlighten me. I > simply > > don't get the new recommendations for reduced sodium in the American diet > to > > 2000 mg for up to age 40 and 1500 mg after 40 yo. Studies are saying the > current > > average intake is 3400 mg and that this is " twice the recommendation " and > > unacceptable. When I was in school, in the dark ages, the average intake > was > > 5000-6000 mg, 3000-4000 (a NAS diet) was the recommended goal, 2000mg was > a low > > sodium diet requiring all salt free foods and 1000-1500mg was considered > an > > extremely restricted diet requiring control of amounts of food in all food > > groups to achieve, even with all salt free products like salt free bread. > How is > > this considered to be a realistic goal for the American public? Articles > are > > saying there has been no change in the sodium intake in the American > public in > > the last 30 years. I believe that decreasing the average intake to 3400 mg > from > > 5-6,000, by my math, is a 32-43% reduction in average intake. It doesn't > take a > > statistics degree to recognize that this is significant. > > > > The further arguement is that heart disease is still the number one killer > in > > the US. Excuse me for stating a few unpopular facts. 1.) We all are going > to > > die. 2.)We all basically die when our heart stops 3.)Something has to be > number > > one, what is the recommendation to replace heart disease in the number one > spot? > > > > I don't mean to be dense. I certainly agree that much can and should be > done to > > make our food supply healthier by reducing sodium, fat, sugar and > processing. We > > are an obese, overfed, undernourished nation. It just seems that the new > sodium > > recommendations are unrealistic, impractical and just plain stupid. > > > > However, I am ready to be enlightened. What do you all say? > > > > Mavis , RDLD > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Ewwww....:-)) Jacquelyn A. Pressly, RD, CLT The NATURAL dietitian Specializing in Wellness and Prevention, Personal Nutrition Coaching and Designer Lifestyle Plans to help you get on the health track Northeast Ohio & Western Pennsylvania Internet and telecounseling available for distance clients jpress50@... If you are what you eat, then dietitians are the doctors of the future Re: Salt in the American Diet Ohh, excuse me? I'm not going to be left out. I want mine on the rocks no salt, double Patron please. Salt in the American Diet > > > > Please forgive me for my soap box. Perhaps one of you can enlighten me. I > simply > > don't get the new recommendations for reduced sodium in the American diet > to > > 2000 mg for up to age 40 and 1500 mg after 40 yo. Studies are saying the > current > > average intake is 3400 mg and that this is " twice the recommendation " and > > unacceptable. When I was in school, in the dark ages, the average intake > was > > 5000-6000 mg, 3000-4000 (a NAS diet) was the recommended goal, 2000mg was > a low > > sodium diet requiring all salt free foods and 1000-1500mg was considered > an > > extremely restricted diet requiring control of amounts of food in all food > > groups to achieve, even with all salt free products like salt free bread. > How is > > this considered to be a realistic goal for the American public? Articles > are > > saying there has been no change in the sodium intake in the American > public in > > the last 30 years. I believe that decreasing the average intake to 3400 mg > from > > 5-6,000, by my math, is a 32-43% reduction in average intake. It doesn't > take a > > statistics degree to recognize that this is significant. > > > > The further arguement is that heart disease is still the number one killer > in > > the US. Excuse me for stating a few unpopular facts. 1.) We all are going > to > > die. 2.)We all basically die when our heart stops 3.)Something has to be > number > > one, what is the recommendation to replace heart disease in the number one > spot? > > > > I don't mean to be dense. I certainly agree that much can and should be > done to > > make our food supply healthier by reducing sodium, fat, sugar and > processing. We > > are an obese, overfed, undernourished nation. It just seems that the new > sodium > > recommendations are unrealistic, impractical and just plain stupid. > > > > However, I am ready to be enlightened. What do you all say? > > > > Mavis , RDLD > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 But hey, did you drink the shooter? I got another one- In Cancun my husband and I met with a good friend I knew from business to have dinner. She very graciously gifted us with a small flask of tequila with our photo as label. I stuck it in the bottom of a large purse and forgot about it until it was found by the security scanner at the airport. It had been a stormy Caribbean week, as only it can storm in the Caribbean, so we'd had to skip finding a good restaurant for our last lunch and go straight to the airport, so I was starving, but we were on time for our flight home. When the young security guard had me take out the bottle he appologized bc I couldn't take it, and said, you can either throw it out, pour it out and take the bottle, or drink it. I chose the drink it. My husband was so upset he left me there mumbling " Digna you're going to get arrested " and I said, " nahhh this is Mexico I can do what I want here " , proceeded to uncap it and took a swig. I offered it around but the line of frowning passengers behind me shook their heads and averted their eyes. I guess I embarassed them . I took a few drinks, toasted everyone, dumped the tequila in the trash and proceeded to go through. However, I did not get out of line so they were all stuck behind me. At the restaurant in the airport he told the waitress to watch for his wife, a " borrachita " tumbling by. She found me, not stumbling, and my food was already at the table. I slept all the way home. Best flight I've every had! Digna Salt in the American Diet > > > > Please forgive me for my soap box. Perhaps one of you can enlighten me. I > simply > > don't get the new recommendations for reduced sodium in the American diet > to > > 2000 mg for up to age 40 and 1500 mg after 40 yo. Studies are saying the > current > > average intake is 3400 mg and that this is " twice the recommendation " and > > unacceptable. When I was in school, in the dark ages, the average intake > was > > 5000-6000 mg, 3000-4000 (a NAS diet) was the recommended goal, 2000mg was > a low > > sodium diet requiring all salt free foods and 1000-1500mg was considered > an > > extremely restricted diet requiring control of amounts of food in all food > > groups to achieve, even with all salt free products like salt free bread. > How is > > this considered to be a realistic goal for the American public? Articles > are > > saying there has been no change in the sodium intake in the American > public in > > the last 30 years. I believe that decreasing the average intake to 3400 mg > from > > 5-6,000, by my math, is a 32-43% reduction in average intake. It doesn't > take a > > statistics degree to recognize that this is significant. > > > > The further arguement is that heart disease is still the number one killer > in > > the US. Excuse me for stating a few unpopular facts. 1.) We all are going > to > > die. 2.)We all basically die when our heart stops 3.)Something has to be > number > > one, what is the recommendation to replace heart disease in the number one > spot? > > > > I don't mean to be dense. I certainly agree that much can and should be > done to > > make our food supply healthier by reducing sodium, fat, sugar and > processing. We > > are an obese, overfed, undernourished nation. It just seems that the new > sodium > > recommendations are unrealistic, impractical and just plain stupid. > > > > However, I am ready to be enlightened. What do you all say? > > > > Mavis , RDLD > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 Heck YES I drank the shooter but I only pretended to lick the salt off my hand! And Digna----that's the only way to fly!! " There cannot be a crisis next week. My schedule is already full. " ---Henry Kissinger Boehme, RD, CD ________________________________ From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Digna Cassens Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 9:42 PM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Salt in the American Diet/margaritas But hey, did you drink the shooter? I got another one- In Cancun my husband and I met with a good friend I knew from business to have dinner. She very graciously gifted us with a small flask of tequila with our photo as label. I stuck it in the bottom of a large purse and forgot about it until it was found by the security scanner at the airport. It had been a stormy Caribbean week, as only it can storm in the Caribbean, so we'd had to skip finding a good restaurant for our last lunch and go straight to the airport, so I was starving, but we were on time for our flight home. When the young security guard had me take out the bottle he appologized bc I couldn't take it, and said, you can either throw it out, pour it out and take the bottle, or drink it. I chose the drink it. My husband was so upset he left me there mumbling " Digna you're going to get arrested " and I said, " nahhh this is Mexico I can do what I want here " , proceeded to uncap it and took a swig. I offered it around but the line of frowning passengers behind me shook their heads and averted their eyes. I guess I embarassed them . I took a few drinks, toasted everyone, dumped the tequila in the trash and proceeded to go through. However, I did not get out of line so they were all stuck behind me. At the restaurant in the airport he told the waitress to watch for his wife, a " borrachita " tumbling by. She found me, not stumbling, and my food was already at the table. I slept all the way home. Best flight I've every had! Digna Salt in the American Diet > > > > Please forgive me for my soap box. Perhaps one of you can enlighten me. I > simply > > don't get the new recommendations for reduced sodium in the American diet > to > > 2000 mg for up to age 40 and 1500 mg after 40 yo. Studies are saying the > current > > average intake is 3400 mg and that this is " twice the recommendation " and > > unacceptable. When I was in school, in the dark ages, the average intake > was > > 5000-6000 mg, 3000-4000 (a NAS diet) was the recommended goal, 2000mg was > a low > > sodium diet requiring all salt free foods and 1000-1500mg was considered > an > > extremely restricted diet requiring control of amounts of food in all food > > groups to achieve, even with all salt free products like salt free bread. > How is > > this considered to be a realistic goal for the American public? Articles > are > > saying there has been no change in the sodium intake in the American > public in > > the last 30 years. I believe that decreasing the average intake to 3400 mg > from > > 5-6,000, by my math, is a 32-43% reduction in average intake. It doesn't > take a > > statistics degree to recognize that this is significant. > > > > The further arguement is that heart disease is still the number one killer > in > > the US. Excuse me for stating a few unpopular facts. 1.) We all are going > to > > die. 2.)We all basically die when our heart stops 3.)Something has to be > number > > one, what is the recommendation to replace heart disease in the number one > spot? > > > > I don't mean to be dense. I certainly agree that much can and should be > done to > > make our food supply healthier by reducing sodium, fat, sugar and > processing. We > > are an obese, overfed, undernourished nation. It just seems that the new > sodium > > recommendations are unrealistic, impractical and just plain stupid. > > > > However, I am ready to be enlightened. What do you all say? > > > > Mavis , RDLD > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 Heck YES I drank the shooter but I only pretended to lick the salt off my hand! And Digna----that's the only way to fly!! " There cannot be a crisis next week. My schedule is already full. " ---Henry Kissinger Boehme, RD, CD ________________________________ From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Digna Cassens Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 9:42 PM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Salt in the American Diet/margaritas But hey, did you drink the shooter? I got another one- In Cancun my husband and I met with a good friend I knew from business to have dinner. She very graciously gifted us with a small flask of tequila with our photo as label. I stuck it in the bottom of a large purse and forgot about it until it was found by the security scanner at the airport. It had been a stormy Caribbean week, as only it can storm in the Caribbean, so we'd had to skip finding a good restaurant for our last lunch and go straight to the airport, so I was starving, but we were on time for our flight home. When the young security guard had me take out the bottle he appologized bc I couldn't take it, and said, you can either throw it out, pour it out and take the bottle, or drink it. I chose the drink it. My husband was so upset he left me there mumbling " Digna you're going to get arrested " and I said, " nahhh this is Mexico I can do what I want here " , proceeded to uncap it and took a swig. I offered it around but the line of frowning passengers behind me shook their heads and averted their eyes. I guess I embarassed them . I took a few drinks, toasted everyone, dumped the tequila in the trash and proceeded to go through. However, I did not get out of line so they were all stuck behind me. At the restaurant in the airport he told the waitress to watch for his wife, a " borrachita " tumbling by. She found me, not stumbling, and my food was already at the table. I slept all the way home. Best flight I've every had! Digna Salt in the American Diet > > > > Please forgive me for my soap box. Perhaps one of you can enlighten me. I > simply > > don't get the new recommendations for reduced sodium in the American diet > to > > 2000 mg for up to age 40 and 1500 mg after 40 yo. Studies are saying the > current > > average intake is 3400 mg and that this is " twice the recommendation " and > > unacceptable. When I was in school, in the dark ages, the average intake > was > > 5000-6000 mg, 3000-4000 (a NAS diet) was the recommended goal, 2000mg was > a low > > sodium diet requiring all salt free foods and 1000-1500mg was considered > an > > extremely restricted diet requiring control of amounts of food in all food > > groups to achieve, even with all salt free products like salt free bread. > How is > > this considered to be a realistic goal for the American public? Articles > are > > saying there has been no change in the sodium intake in the American > public in > > the last 30 years. I believe that decreasing the average intake to 3400 mg > from > > 5-6,000, by my math, is a 32-43% reduction in average intake. It doesn't > take a > > statistics degree to recognize that this is significant. > > > > The further arguement is that heart disease is still the number one killer > in > > the US. Excuse me for stating a few unpopular facts. 1.) We all are going > to > > die. 2.)We all basically die when our heart stops 3.)Something has to be > number > > one, what is the recommendation to replace heart disease in the number one > spot? > > > > I don't mean to be dense. I certainly agree that much can and should be > done to > > make our food supply healthier by reducing sodium, fat, sugar and > processing. We > > are an obese, overfed, undernourished nation. It just seems that the new > sodium > > recommendations are unrealistic, impractical and just plain stupid. > > > > However, I am ready to be enlightened. What do you all say? > > > > Mavis , RDLD > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 Well, we'll hit the Giggling Marlin next week and have 2 shots for you and 2 shots for . And don't blame me for having 2 too many, I have to drink to you both. Salt in the American Diet > > > > Please forgive me for my soap box. Perhaps one of you can enlighten me. I > simply > > don't get the new recommendations for reduced sodium in the American diet > to > > 2000 mg for up to age 40 and 1500 mg after 40 yo. Studies are saying the > current > > average intake is 3400 mg and that this is " twice the recommendation " and > > unacceptable. When I was in school, in the dark ages, the average intake > was > > 5000-6000 mg, 3000-4000 (a NAS diet) was the recommended goal, 2000mg was > a low > > sodium diet requiring all salt free foods and 1000-1500mg was considered > an > > extremely restricted diet requiring control of amounts of food in all food > > groups to achieve, even with all salt free products like salt free bread. > How is > > this considered to be a realistic goal for the American public? Articles > are > > saying there has been no change in the sodium intake in the American > public in > > the last 30 years. I believe that decreasing the average intake to 3400 mg > from > > 5-6,000, by my math, is a 32-43% reduction in average intake. It doesn't > take a > > statistics degree to recognize that this is significant. > > > > The further arguement is that heart disease is still the number one killer > in > > the US. Excuse me for stating a few unpopular facts. 1.) We all are going > to > > die. 2.)We all basically die when our heart stops 3.)Something has to be > number > > one, what is the recommendation to replace heart disease in the number one > spot? > > > > I don't mean to be dense. I certainly agree that much can and should be > done to > > make our food supply healthier by reducing sodium, fat, sugar and > processing. We > > are an obese, overfed, undernourished nation. It just seems that the new > sodium > > recommendations are unrealistic, impractical and just plain stupid. > > > > However, I am ready to be enlightened. What do you all say? > > > > Mavis , RDLD > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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