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February 11, 2001

Can anyone help me? I'm 35 years old and have one large fibroid.

(uterus about the size of a four month pregnancy.) I have my children and

don't intend on having any more. I'm scheduled for a hyst. in two weeks.

I'm not sure which way to go. (abdominal or vaginal.) Does anyone out there

have any advice?

February 11, 2001

In a message dated 02/11/2001 2:36:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jugglers4@... writes:

<< I'm scheduled for a hyst. in two weeks.

I'm not sure which way to go. (abdominal or vaginal.) Does anyone out there

have any advice? >>

We are a group who try and save out uteri, we can hardly give you advise on a

hyst, try a HYST group.

February 11, 2001

nutycr8zy1@... wrote:

> We are a group who try and save out uteri, we can hardly give you

> advise on a

> hyst, try a HYST group.

Actually, we are a group that supports ALL women through the process of

determining their fibroid condition and exploring ALL options for

treatment. While we may tend to focus more on uterus retention, it's

important to remember that that just isn't always possible for all

women. If a woman finds that a hysterectomy, for her specific case &

condition, is something she truly feels is necessary, then I would hope

this group would do everything it could to support that very private

decision and assist that woman in locating the best possible medical

professionals to do the job as well as support her through this. While

you or I may not agree with a woman's choice to undergo hysterectomy, it

is important to remember that it is HER choice and that she is, without

any doubt, confronting many painful decisions just as you and I might.

Also, please remember that a multitude of conditions can make sparing

the uterus a near impossibility for many women. Nearly every day I talk

to women who are considering hysterectomy and I know that beyond cancer

there are other conditions that frighten women and confuse them -- and

the options available to them are truly limited. Adenomyosis, prolapse,

endometriosis, and hyperplasia are just a few of the conditions that

complicate matters terribly. While a motivated woman with financial

ability to pay for any treatment available can probably find ways to

keep her uterus if she tries hard enough -- it can be much more

difficult for the " average " woman in " small-town " America to do so.

It would be my hope that this group would consider that all women with

fibroids need support and caring responses while they work their way

through the maze of medical information available online. It would also

be my hope that this group recognize the millions of women who have

already undergone hysterectomy due to fibroids who may also still need

care and support. Many of these women are indeed subscribers to this

list group. Those women are on this list group because they need your

support but also because they want to impact change. They want to push

for more research. They want to assist other women in exploring their

options and making the best choice possible. Let's not forget that even

women who've undergone hysterectomy for fibroids are truly our sisters.

We have much to learn and share with one another if we are to impact

change for future generations.

Finally, please be kind to one another in your responses. While my

health is quite good these days, I understand and remember all too well

the fragility of my emotional well-being while I was in the depths of

trying to find a solution to my fibroid situation. As we quickly type

our responses and hit the " send " button, sometimes we do forget to stop

and consider how our message might be received or how it might hurt

another member. When a woman calls out for help to this group, I would

hope that all respondents are thinking of ways to actually help her to

better explore the situation and her options.

Carla Dionne

February 11, 2001

Y a know,We are not a group that gives advice of hysterectomy,however,it is

possible that someone

could learn something of value from our group and maybe go on to the surgery a

bit more informed or

maybe decide to postpone the surgery.So I think,Ms.Nutycrazy,I'm sorry I don't

see your name here,we

are a group that tries to help out other women-at least that is the way I

perceive it,and I think I

am as much part of this group as you or anyone else,no?

Very best,

Top of the Morning etc.

Your Canadian cousin,

Bonnie

nutycr8zy1@... wrote:

> In a message dated 02/11/2001 2:36:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> jugglers4@... writes:

>

> << I'm scheduled for a hyst. in two weeks.

> I'm not sure which way to go. (abdominal or vaginal.) Does anyone out there

> have any advice? >>

> We are a group who try and save out uteri, we can hardly give you advise on a

> hyst, try a HYST group.

>

February 11, 2001

Carla,

RIGHT,RIGHT<DOUBLE RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!

Bonnie

Carla Dionne wrote:

> nutycr8zy1@... wrote:

>

> > We are a group who try and save out uteri, we can hardly give you

> > advise on a

> > hyst, try a HYST group.

>

> Actually, we are a group that supports ALL women through the process of

> determining their fibroid condition and exploring ALL options for

> treatment. While we may tend to focus more on uterus retention, it's

> important to remember that that just isn't always possible for all

> women. If a woman finds that a hysterectomy, for her specific case &

> condition, is something she truly feels is necessary, then I would hope

> this group would do everything it could to support that very private

> decision and assist that woman in locating the best possible medical

> professionals to do the job as well as support her through this. While

> you or I may not agree with a woman's choice to undergo hysterectomy, it

> is important to remember that it is HER choice and that she is, without

> any doubt, confronting many painful decisions just as you and I might.

>

> Also, please remember that a multitude of conditions can make sparing

> the uterus a near impossibility for many women. Nearly every day I talk

> to women who are considering hysterectomy and I know that beyond cancer

> there are other conditions that frighten women and confuse them -- and

> the options available to them are truly limited. Adenomyosis, prolapse,

> endometriosis, and hyperplasia are just a few of the conditions that

> complicate matters terribly. While a motivated woman with financial

> ability to pay for any treatment available can probably find ways to

> keep her uterus if she tries hard enough -- it can be much more

> difficult for the " average " woman in " small-town " America to do so.

>

> It would be my hope that this group would consider that all women with

> fibroids need support and caring responses while they work their way

> through the maze of medical information available online. It would also

> be my hope that this group recognize the millions of women who have

> already undergone hysterectomy due to fibroids who may also still need

> care and support. Many of these women are indeed subscribers to this

> list group. Those women are on this list group because they need your

> support but also because they want to impact change. They want to push

> for more research. They want to assist other women in exploring their

> options and making the best choice possible. Let's not forget that even

> women who've undergone hysterectomy for fibroids are truly our sisters.

> We have much to learn and share with one another if we are to impact

> change for future generations.

>

> Finally, please be kind to one another in your responses. While my

> health is quite good these days, I understand and remember all too well

> the fragility of my emotional well-being while I was in the depths of

> trying to find a solution to my fibroid situation. As we quickly type

> our responses and hit the " send " button, sometimes we do forget to stop

> and consider how our message might be received or how it might hurt

> another member. When a woman calls out for help to this group, I would

> hope that all respondents are thinking of ways to actually help her to

> better explore the situation and her options.

>

> Carla Dionne

>

February 11, 2001

> Can anyone help me? I'm 35 years old and have one large fibroid.

> (uterus about the size of a four month pregnancy.) I have my

children and don't intend on having any more. I'm scheduled for a

hyst. in two weeks.

> I'm not sure which way to go. (abdominal or vaginal.) Does anyone

>out there have any advice?

As others have written, you don't necessarily have to have

hysterectomy. Have you fully explored other options?

We had a discussion Re: Vaginal vs Abdominal Hysterectomy on this

forum last November. If you go to the website (you may have to

register to log on)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/uterinefibroids/messages

you can search the archives for messages 5220, 5224, 5230, 5231,

5236, 5242, 5245 and 5249 (I found these message numbers by doing a

keyword search for " vaginal hysterectomy " ) I am sure some of the

information there will be useful to you.

February 11, 2001

jugglers wrote:

> Can anyone help me? I'm 35 years old and have one large fibroid.

> (uterus about the size of a four month pregnancy.) I have my

> children and don't intend on having any more. I'm scheduled

> for a hyst. in two weeks. I'm not sure which way to go.

> (abdominal or vaginal.) Does anyone out there have any advice?

Have you considered myomectomy for the one fibroid? Do you have

bleeding problems or bulk problems?

A vaginal hysterectomy may be used if the uterus is small enough to

fit through the vagina. A vaginal hysterectomy probably causes less

postoperative pain because you don't have the incision. But the

surgeon's field of vision is extremely limited. Complications can be

fever and infection, bladder injuries, and adhesions.

Abdominal hysterectomy complications can include: adhesions, injury

to the bowel, bladder, or ureter, postoperative bleeding: and wound

dehiscence.

Hysterectomy can shorten the length of the vagina. If the surgeon

doesn't preserve the normal length of the vagina, it can make sex

very uncomfortable.

Is the surgeon leaving the cervix? If not, is he closing the end of

the vagina or leaving it open? If he leaves it open, the woman is

susceptible to infection.

I got the information from " The Hysterectomy Hoax " , by Dr. Stanley

West, http://www.repmed.com

Hysterectomy can lead to incontinence twenty, thirty years from now.

February 11, 2001

jugglers wrote:

> Can anyone help me? I'm 35 years old and have one large fibroid.

> (uterus about the size of a four month pregnancy.) I have my

> children and don't intend on having any more. I'm scheduled

> for a hyst. in two weeks. I'm not sure which way to go.

> (abdominal or vaginal.) Does anyone out there have any advice?

Have you considered myomectomy for the one fibroid? Do you have

bleeding problems or bulk problems?

A vaginal hysterectomy may be used if the uterus is small enough to

fit through the vagina. A vaginal hysterectomy probably causes less

postoperative pain because you don't have the incision. But the

surgeon's field of vision is extremely limited. Complications can be

fever and infection, bladder injuries, and adhesions.

Abdominal hysterectomy complications can include: adhesions, injury

to the bowel, bladder, or ureter, postoperative bleeding: and wound

dehiscence.

Hysterectomy can shorten the length of the vagina. If the surgeon

doesn't preserve the normal length of the vagina, it can make sex

very uncomfortable.

Is the surgeon leaving the cervix? If not, is he closing the end of

the vagina or leaving it open? If he leaves it open, the woman is

susceptible to infection.

I got the information from " The Hysterectomy Hoax " , by Dr. Stanley

West, http://www.repmed.com

Hysterectomy can lead to incontinence twenty, thirty years from now.

February 11, 2001

jugglers wrote:

> Can anyone help me? I'm 35 years old and have one large fibroid.

> (uterus about the size of a four month pregnancy.) I have my

> children and don't intend on having any more. I'm scheduled

> for a hyst. in two weeks. I'm not sure which way to go.

> (abdominal or vaginal.) Does anyone out there have any advice?

Have you considered myomectomy for the one fibroid? Do you have

bleeding problems or bulk problems?

A vaginal hysterectomy may be used if the uterus is small enough to

fit through the vagina. A vaginal hysterectomy probably causes less

postoperative pain because you don't have the incision. But the

surgeon's field of vision is extremely limited. Complications can be

fever and infection, bladder injuries, and adhesions.

Abdominal hysterectomy complications can include: adhesions, injury

to the bowel, bladder, or ureter, postoperative bleeding: and wound

dehiscence.

Hysterectomy can shorten the length of the vagina. If the surgeon

doesn't preserve the normal length of the vagina, it can make sex

very uncomfortable.

Is the surgeon leaving the cervix? If not, is he closing the end of

the vagina or leaving it open? If he leaves it open, the woman is

susceptible to infection.

I got the information from " The Hysterectomy Hoax " , by Dr. Stanley

West, http://www.repmed.com

Hysterectomy can lead to incontinence twenty, thirty years from now.

February 11, 2001

Thankyou Carla for your very tactful reply. The

last thing any of us needs is to be berated by someone

else for trying to get information to help ourselves.

Dealing with the fibroids is difficult enough. Let me

quote my dr. who last week pointed out to me in a

phone conversation that a patient of hers in the same

situation as myself lost her job and her relationship

because of her fibroids.So let's be there for each

other. After my surgery in two weeks, I hope to be

well enough to act in an advisory role to anyone who

may need help. I certainly have asked enough questions

to the group and been supported by many caring women

in my quest to find the right way to deal with

fibroids.

& nbsp; Carla Dionne

& lt;cdionne@... & gt; wrote:

<BLOCKQUOTE style= " BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid;

MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT:

5px " ><TT>nutycr8zy1@... wrote: & gt; We are

a group who try and save out uteri, we can hardly give

you & gt; advise on a & gt; hyst, try a HYST

group. Actually, we are a group that supports

ALL women through the process of determining their

fibroid condition and exploring ALL options

for treatment. & nbsp; While we may tend to focus

more on uterus retention, it's important to

remember that that just isn't always possible for

all women. & nbsp; If a woman finds that a

hysterectomy, for her specific case

& amp; condition, is something she truly feels is

necessary, then I would hope this group would do

everything it could to support that very

private decision and assist that woman in locating

the best possible medical professionals to do the

job as well as support her through this. & nbsp;

While you or I may not agree with a woman's choice

to undergo hysterectomy, it is important to

remember that it is HER choice and that she is,

without any doubt, confronting many painful

decisions just as you and I might. Also, please

remember that a multitude of conditions can make

sparing the uterus a near impossibility for many

women. & nbsp; Nearly every day I talk to women who

are considering hysterectomy and I know that beyond

cancer there are other conditions that frighten

women and confuse them -- and the options available

to them are truly limited. & nbsp; Adenomyosis,

prolapse, endometriosis, and hyperplasia are just a

few of the conditions that complicate matters

terribly. & nbsp; While a motivated woman with

financial ability to pay for any treatment

available can probably find ways to keep her uterus

if she tries hard enough -- it can be much

more difficult for the " average " woman in

" small-town " America to do so. It would be my

hope that this group would consider that all women

with fibroids need support and caring responses

while they work their way through the maze of

medical information available online. & nbsp; It would

also be my hope that this group recognize the

millions of women who have already undergone

hysterectomy due to fibroids who may also still

need care and support. & nbsp; Many of these women

are indeed subscribers to this list group. & nbsp;

Those women are on this list group because they need

your support but also because they want to impact

change. & nbsp; They want to push for more

research. & nbsp; They want to assist other women in

exploring their options and making the best choice

possible. & nbsp; Let's not forget that even women

who've undergone hysterectomy for fibroids are truly

our sisters. We have much to learn and share with

one another if we are to impact change for future

generations. Finally, please be kind to one

another in your responses. & nbsp; While my health is

quite good these days, I understand and remember all

too well the fragility of my emotional well-being

while I was in the depths of trying to find a

solution to my fibroid situation. & nbsp; As we quickly

type our responses and hit the " send " button,

sometimes we do forget to stop and consider how our

message might be received or how it might

hurt another member. When a woman calls out for

help to this group, I would hope that all

respondents are thinking of ways to actually help her

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February 11, 2001

Thankyou Carla for your very tactful reply. The

last thing any of us needs is to be berated by someone

else for trying to get information to help ourselves.

Dealing with the fibroids is difficult enough. Let me

quote my dr. who last week pointed out to me in a

phone conversation that a patient of hers in the same

situation as myself lost her job and her relationship

because of her fibroids.So let's be there for each

other. After my surgery in two weeks, I hope to be

well enough to act in an advisory role to anyone who

may need help. I certainly have asked enough questions

to the group and been supported by many caring women

in my quest to find the right way to deal with

fibroids.

& nbsp; Carla Dionne

& lt;cdionne@... & gt; wrote:

<BLOCKQUOTE style= " BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid;

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a group who try and save out uteri, we can hardly give

you & gt; advise on a & gt; hyst, try a HYST

group. Actually, we are a group that supports

ALL women through the process of determining their

fibroid condition and exploring ALL options

for treatment. & nbsp; While we may tend to focus

more on uterus retention, it's important to

remember that that just isn't always possible for

all women. & nbsp; If a woman finds that a

hysterectomy, for her specific case

& amp; condition, is something she truly feels is

necessary, then I would hope this group would do

everything it could to support that very

private decision and assist that woman in locating

the best possible medical professionals to do the

job as well as support her through this. & nbsp;

While you or I may not agree with a woman's choice

to undergo hysterectomy, it is important to

remember that it is HER choice and that she is,

without any doubt, confronting many painful

decisions just as you and I might. Also, please

remember that a multitude of conditions can make

sparing the uterus a near impossibility for many

women. & nbsp; Nearly every day I talk to women who

are considering hysterectomy and I know that beyond

cancer there are other conditions that frighten

women and confuse them -- and the options available

to them are truly limited. & nbsp; Adenomyosis,

prolapse, endometriosis, and hyperplasia are just a

few of the conditions that complicate matters

terribly. & nbsp; While a motivated woman with

financial ability to pay for any treatment

available can probably find ways to keep her uterus

if she tries hard enough -- it can be much

more difficult for the " average " woman in

" small-town " America to do so. It would be my

hope that this group would consider that all women

with fibroids need support and caring responses

while they work their way through the maze of

medical information available online. & nbsp; It would

also be my hope that this group recognize the

millions of women who have already undergone

hysterectomy due to fibroids who may also still

need care and support. & nbsp; Many of these women

are indeed subscribers to this list group. & nbsp;

Those women are on this list group because they need

your support but also because they want to impact

change. & nbsp; They want to push for more

research. & nbsp; They want to assist other women in

exploring their options and making the best choice

possible. & nbsp; Let's not forget that even women

who've undergone hysterectomy for fibroids are truly

our sisters. We have much to learn and share with

one another if we are to impact change for future

generations. Finally, please be kind to one

another in your responses. & nbsp; While my health is

quite good these days, I understand and remember all

too well the fragility of my emotional well-being

while I was in the depths of trying to find a

solution to my fibroid situation. & nbsp; As we quickly

type our responses and hit the " send " button,

sometimes we do forget to stop and consider how our

message might be received or how it might

hurt another member. When a woman calls out for

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February 11, 2001

Thankyou Carla for your very tactful reply. The

last thing any of us needs is to be berated by someone

else for trying to get information to help ourselves.

Dealing with the fibroids is difficult enough. Let me

quote my dr. who last week pointed out to me in a

phone conversation that a patient of hers in the same

situation as myself lost her job and her relationship

because of her fibroids.So let's be there for each

other. After my surgery in two weeks, I hope to be

well enough to act in an advisory role to anyone who

may need help. I certainly have asked enough questions

to the group and been supported by many caring women

in my quest to find the right way to deal with

fibroids.

& nbsp; Carla Dionne

& lt;cdionne@... & gt; wrote:

<BLOCKQUOTE style= " BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid;

MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT:

5px " ><TT>nutycr8zy1@... wrote: & gt; We are

a group who try and save out uteri, we can hardly give

you & gt; advise on a & gt; hyst, try a HYST

group. Actually, we are a group that supports

ALL women through the process of determining their

fibroid condition and exploring ALL options

for treatment. & nbsp; While we may tend to focus

more on uterus retention, it's important to

remember that that just isn't always possible for

all women. & nbsp; If a woman finds that a

hysterectomy, for her specific case

& amp; condition, is something she truly feels is

necessary, then I would hope this group would do

everything it could to support that very

private decision and assist that woman in locating

the best possible medical professionals to do the

job as well as support her through this. & nbsp;

While you or I may not agree with a woman's choice

to undergo hysterectomy, it is important to

remember that it is HER choice and that she is,

without any doubt, confronting many painful

decisions just as you and I might. Also, please

remember that a multitude of conditions can make

sparing the uterus a near impossibility for many

women. & nbsp; Nearly every day I talk to women who

are considering hysterectomy and I know that beyond

cancer there are other conditions that frighten

women and confuse them -- and the options available

to them are truly limited. & nbsp; Adenomyosis,

prolapse, endometriosis, and hyperplasia are just a

few of the conditions that complicate matters

terribly. & nbsp; While a motivated woman with

financial ability to pay for any treatment

available can probably find ways to keep her uterus

if she tries hard enough -- it can be much

more difficult for the " average " woman in

" small-town " America to do so. It would be my

hope that this group would consider that all women

with fibroids need support and caring responses

while they work their way through the maze of

medical information available online. & nbsp; It would

also be my hope that this group recognize the

millions of women who have already undergone

hysterectomy due to fibroids who may also still

need care and support. & nbsp; Many of these women

are indeed subscribers to this list group. & nbsp;

Those women are on this list group because they need

your support but also because they want to impact

change. & nbsp; They want to push for more

research. & nbsp; They want to assist other women in

exploring their options and making the best choice

possible. & nbsp; Let's not forget that even women

who've undergone hysterectomy for fibroids are truly

our sisters. We have much to learn and share with

one another if we are to impact change for future

generations. Finally, please be kind to one

another in your responses. & nbsp; While my health is

quite good these days, I understand and remember all

too well the fragility of my emotional well-being

while I was in the depths of trying to find a

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hurt another member. When a woman calls out for

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February 28, 2001

Good luck Mimi,

I had a myomectomy in Feb. '99; had three months of Lupron shots prior to the

surgery which shrank the fibroids so they were easier for the doctor to cut

out (otherwise she might have had to do a hysterectomy and/or there may have

been a lot more bleeding). I didn't have general anesthesia either because I

wanted to watch, but apparently I was whining a lot when she was tugging on

my uterus, so they put me under more (sorry I don't know what they used

though -- some kind of sedation I'm sure.)

February 28, 2001

Good luck Mimi,

I had a myomectomy in Feb. '99; had three months of Lupron shots prior to the

surgery which shrank the fibroids so they were easier for the doctor to cut

out (otherwise she might have had to do a hysterectomy and/or there may have

been a lot more bleeding). I didn't have general anesthesia either because I

wanted to watch, but apparently I was whining a lot when she was tugging on

my uterus, so they put me under more (sorry I don't know what they used

though -- some kind of sedation I'm sure.)

March 1, 2001

Thank you every body for responding to me. It helped a lot. Oh about the Lupron,

my doctor didn't suggest that I should get the Lupron shot. Actually he told me

sometimes the Lupron makes the surgery a little difficult. Any ways, after

reading your emails I decided that i'm not gonna take the Lupron shot. So I just

called the Doctors office told them. Thank you all very much. God bless you. I

have another question: my doctor told me that I have a low blood count, is there

any thing that I can do naturally . Because I have to wait to have the myo

untill my blood count is stable.

Thank you again for every body who wrote me

mimi

March 1, 2001

Thank you every body for responding to me. It helped a lot. Oh about the Lupron,

my doctor didn't suggest that I should get the Lupron shot. Actually he told me

sometimes the Lupron makes the surgery a little difficult. Any ways, after

reading your emails I decided that i'm not gonna take the Lupron shot. So I just

called the Doctors office told them. Thank you all very much. God bless you. I

have another question: my doctor told me that I have a low blood count, is there

any thing that I can do naturally . Because I have to wait to have the myo

untill my blood count is stable.

Thank you again for every body who wrote me

mimi

March 1, 2001