Re: Re: Hysterectomy vs Myomectomy

[Guest guest]

Sydney,

There seems to be 2 cases-one with the fluids and one that bled to death.Anyway

I hope we can get to

the bottom of it.

Best,

Bonnie

Sydney Lagier wrote:

> I remember that report vividly as I had the same complication (but am alive

> to talk about it!). She was having hysteroscopic resection of the fibroid,

> the nurse reportedly warned the doctor that the measurement of fluid " in "

> and " out " was indicating a fluid imbalance but apparently he thought he

> knew better. In my case, the measurement was taken frequently and they

> stopped the procedure when they felt that it was too dangerous (which is

> exactly what they are supposed to do). I don't remember the name of the

> doctor, but do remember it was in NY and was really freaked about it as I

> felt it could have been me under less capable hands!

>

> At 06:48 PM 3/14/2001 -0800, you wrote:

> >Hi Bonnie,

> >I remember that case last year where that young woman died as a result of a

> >myomectomy and I know for a fact that was not Dr. West's patient. I believe

> >she was given too much fluid during the procedure.

> >Hazel

> >

> > Re: Re: Hysterectomy vs Myomectomy

> > > >

> > > > > --- njr@... wrote:

> > > > > > I am 43 and had a myomectomy in October and I

> > > > > > feel great(and I

> > > > > > still have all my pieces). My surgeon is Dr.

> > > > > > Stanley West, author

> > > > > > of " The Hysterectomy Hoax " .

> > > > >

> > > > > I was considering Dr. West until someone from

> > > > > DelJunco's (Female Alternative Surgery) (Hufnagel's

> > > > > " prodigy " ) told me that one of Dr. West's patients

> > > > > DIED from post-operative bleeding.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am a bit surprised to see so many women here who

> > > > > used West. By the way, I am new, from CA, so I have

> > > > > heard all about the whole Hufnagel " No More

> > > > > Hysterectomies " losing her license scandal.... and I

> > > > > would consider DelJunco but alas he is not even a gyn

> > > > > nor even Board Certified.... I have heard from women

> > > > > who rave about him tho. This is all so confusing!

> > > > >

> > > > > I mean, what's a girl to think? They write books and

> > > > > lose their license (Vicki Hufnagel...not spoken of

> > > > > highly elsewhere on this site)... they save uteri and

> > > > > get criticized by the vast majority of GYN's.... I

> > > > > mean this is not exactly a picnic now is it?

> > > > >

> > > > > I have heard UAE slammed... I have heard it all at

> > > > > this point... I am just wanting to get it over with

> > > > > and have a myo but at the present I am still trying to

> > > > > figure out with whom!

> > > > >

> > > > > I have a very large multi-fibroid uterus and adenoymas

> > > > > to boot. I am 46 and so you can imagine the amount of

> > > > > flak I get for wanting to save it! Oh for Pete's

> > > > > sake.

> > > > >

> > > > > Well how's that for my intro to the group?

> > > > >

> > > > > I was wanting to ask the womem who went to West, were

> > > > > you aware of the death when you made your decision?

> > > > > What was your impression of him ( I do not like what I

> > > > > have read here about his not listening about post-op

> > > > > pain)? What's his office like? How about the

> > > > > hospital? I personally want to go to a hospital that

> > > > > is VERY CUSHY..... I swear if I have to go thru that I

> > > > > want a foot rub and some ice cream (ha ha)!

> > > > >

> > > > > I wish everyone the very best with your personal

> > > > > situations..... and just hope you will all RESEARCH

> > > > > this thoroughly before you do anything. Seems to me

> > > > > we are on the cutting edge of a major and

> > > > > controversial shift in women's health care, and it is

> > > > > up to us to help shape it. Kudos to the website

> > > > > creator and any physician like minded.

> > > > >

> > > > > - (newbie)

> > > > >

> > > > > __________________________________________________

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Sydney,

Oh well if the bp goes too low the heart will stop,won't it.

Bonnie

Sydney Lagier wrote:

> Bonnie, I'm fuzzy on the details but the fluid overload causes an

> electrolyte imbalance. This brings your blood pressure dangerously low--in

> my case (I also had this complication) I spent the rest of the day in the

> recovery room trying to get my blood pressure back up. I'm not sure how

> someone dies from this, i.e. what the next step is, but that's the part I

> do know.

>

> Sydney

>

> At 06:34 PM 3/14/2001 -0500, you wrote:

> >? I wonder how you die from too much fluid,maybe it fills the lungs

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

donna I 'll check the site,thanks,

Best,

Bonnie

Donna Jung wrote:

> Bonnie,

>

> I searched the internet for you and I found another of the same story.

>

> " For its lining to be visible, the uterus must be distended with a

> solution, in this case saline. "

>

> http://www.physweekly.com/archive/99/02_01_99/twf.html

>

> Donna

>

> Bonnie Andrukaitis wrote:

> > Donna,

> > I have a friend over at CBS cuttting for 60 Mins. I'll check

> > in with her tomorrow to see if she knows more. How does one die

> > from that?Its not even open abdominal surgery

> > Best,Donna,

> > Bonnie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

donna I 'll check the site,thanks,

Best,

Bonnie

Donna Jung wrote:

> Bonnie,

>

> I searched the internet for you and I found another of the same story.

>

> " For its lining to be visible, the uterus must be distended with a

> solution, in this case saline. "

>

> http://www.physweekly.com/archive/99/02_01_99/twf.html

>

> Donna

>

> Bonnie Andrukaitis wrote:

> > Donna,

> > I have a friend over at CBS cuttting for 60 Mins. I'll check

> > in with her tomorrow to see if she knows more. How does one die

> > from that?Its not even open abdominal surgery

> > Best,Donna,

> > Bonnie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Carla,

We don't have bad doctors who migrate to the states,its the other way around I

was told.LOL

Bonnie

Carla Dionne wrote:

> What you want doesn't really exist. The info on my " Doctors " and

> " Medical Boards " pages on my website will help you to do a fair amount

> of sleuthing online....but, if you want info across all states (mind

> you, a bad doc in Canada who migrates to the U.S. won't, necessarily,

> have history detailed in this!) and don't mind paying a small fee, the

> best service right now is:

>

> Medi-Net

>

>

> Actually, it's now called Searchpointe and the database is actually

> accessible online these days. for a fee.

>

> http://www.searchpointe.com/

>

> Otherwise, you would need to do a state by state background check on any

> doctor you want info on because most doctors are licensed in multiple

> states. Just in case they lose their license in one state, it might be

> possible to retain it in another. Like with Vicki Hufnagel. Lost her

> license in California. Then New York. But still has her license in

> Hawaii. Can't really practice the surgery she touts as her cornerstone

> there though cuz she can't seem to get malpractice insurance or hospital

> privileges in the state....but she's still licensed there.

>

> The other tool is, of course, the Public Citizen (?) documents published

> annually. But it too is state by state and you'd need to whole set

> (about $400 or so) to verify listings for any given doc against all

> states.

>

> BTW, I wrote a post earlier on tracking down singular deaths related to

> myo or hyst...but don't know where it went. Did some individual on the

> list group receive it instead of the whole list group? If so, could you

> forward it to the group or back to me? I didn't save it in my sent file

> but would like it posted. Somewhere around 700 deaths due to hyst occur

> each year. Roughly 11/10,000. Tracking down a single death from hyst

> or myo is kind of pointless, in my opinion, that is.

> Morbidity/mortality stats from hyst & myo are roughly the same but we

> just don't hear much about any of these. Even less so with myo cuz a

> whole lot less of them are performed each year. ~650,000 hysts vs.

> ~40,000 myos. Women die from a variety of causes -- not all of which

> are the doc's fault. But, doctors are human and there is always risk

> with ANY procedure.

>

> Carla

>

> winniebernier@... wrote:

>

> > Thanks for the info Marsha. I just checked out Carla's site and I

> > admire her

> > effort as one woman who has had fibroids fighting to make a difference

> > and to

> > help out other women with the plague. But what I envisioned is more

> > of a

> > country or statewide, government owned type website where you can go

> > in and

> > just enter a doctor's name and statein which they practice to get a

> > history

> > report on them.

> >

> > If anyone knows of anything like this, please let me know, as I'm

> > still

> > trying to get any information on the doctor performing my

> > surgery...Her name

> > is Dr. Selick in NYC...

> >

> > Winnie.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Try Dr. Dolores Kent .

[Guest guest]

Now I remember the story. It was in the NY papers. The surgery was done at Beth

Israel hospital. One doctor is now at a hospital in Staten Island, NY. I don't

know about the other one.

They used experimental equipment which was not approved by the hospital. They

also had a salesman in surgery who was not authorized.

[Guest guest]

Well, I actually do know of one doc practicing in the NE who came from

Canada after fleeing from a malpractice suit. Regardless of the country

and the flight of the doc, docs do this to protect themselves and

continue practicing. And there really is very little that we can do to

determine the background info of many, many docs. Wish there were.

carla

Bonnie Andrukaitis wrote:

> Carla,

> We don't have bad doctors who migrate to the states,its the other way

> around I was told.LOL

> Bonnie

[Guest guest]

I cannot be 100% sure but feel pretty sure it happened

at Beth isreal in lower Manhattan. It was a freak

accident because they were trying out a new machine to

purchase and allowed the sales rep. to do the demo on

this patient's surgery. Crazy isn't it?

--- Bonnie Andrukaitis

wrote:

> Celeste,

> I don't understand at all.Could you elaborate.Are

> you sure its Beth Israel?

> Best,

> Bonnie

>

> celeste keane wrote:

>

> > Hi Hazel and Bonnie, I believe the case was even

> more

> > complicated than the fluids. Apparently the women

> was

> > attended by a sales rep. from the company trying

> to

> > sell Beth Isreal Hospital a new machine for the

> > procedure, Of course that person did not know

> what

> > they were doing and supposedly the physican

> allowed

> > this to go on.

> > --- Bonnie Andrukaitis

> > wrote:

> > > Hi Hazel,

> > > So I wasn't dreaming it-you must be in NYC or

> the

> > > area.Anyway you can think of to check who the

> > > doctor was? I wonder how you die from too much

> > > fluid,maybe it fills the lungs.I remember a coma

> > > patient I knew very well and one day his face

> was

> > > swollen like a basketball,it was

> over-hydration.But

> > > he didn't die,maybe they got it adjusted.

> > > Its just they are telling me that my myo would

> > > involve more rsik etc. and I am interested in

> all

> > > these casualities.

> > > Anyway

> > > as always

> > > Best,

> > > Bonnie

> > >

> > >

> > > swan511 wrote:

> > >

> > > > Hi Bonnie,

> > > > I remember that case last year where that

> young

> > > woman died as a result of a

> > > > myomectomy and I know for a fact that was not

> Dr.

> > > West's patient. I believe

> > > > she was given too much fluid during the

> procedure.

> > > > Hazel

> > > >

> > > > Re: Re:

> > > Hysterectomy vs Myomectomy

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- njr@... wrote:

> > > > > > > > I am 43 and had a myomectomy in

> October

> > > and I

> > > > > > > > feel great(and I

> > > > > > > > still have all my pieces). My surgeon

> is

> > > Dr.

> > > > > > > > Stanley West, author

> > > > > > > > of " The Hysterectomy Hoax " .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I was considering Dr. West until someone

> > > from

> > > > > > > DelJunco's (Female Alternative Surgery)

> > > (Hufnagel's

> > > > > > > " prodigy " ) told me that one of Dr.

> West's

> > > patients

> > > > > > > DIED from post-operative bleeding.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am a bit surprised to see so many

> women

> > > here who

> > > > > > > used West. By the way, I am new, from

> CA, so

> > > I have

> > > > > > > heard all about the whole Hufnagel " No

> More

> > > > > > > Hysterectomies " losing her license

> > > scandal.... and I

> > > > > > > would consider DelJunco but alas he is

> not

> > > even a gyn

> > > > > > > nor even Board Certified.... I have

> heard

> > > from women

> > > > > > > who rave about him tho. This is all so

> > > confusing!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I mean, what's a girl to think? They

> write

> > > books and

> > > > > > > lose their license (Vicki Hufnagel...not

> > > spoken of

> > > > > > > highly elsewhere on this site)... they

> save

> > > uteri and

> > > > > > > get criticized by the vast majority of

> > > GYN's.... I

> > > > > > > mean this is not exactly a picnic now is

> it?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have heard UAE slammed... I have heard

> it

> > > all at

> > > > > > > this point... I am just wanting to get

> it

> > > over with

> > > > > > > and have a myo but at the present I am

> still

> > > trying to

> > > > > > > figure out with whom!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have a very large multi-fibroid uterus

> and

> > > adenoymas

> > > > > > > to boot. I am 46 and so you can imagine

> the

> > > amount of

> > > > > > > flak I get for wanting to save it! Oh

> for

> > > Pete's

> > > > > > > sake.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Well how's that for my intro to the

> group?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I was wanting to ask the womem who went

> to

> > > West, were

> > > > > > > you aware of the death when you made

> your

> > > decision?

> > > > > > > What was your impression of him ( I do

> not

>

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[Guest guest]

I cannot be 100% sure but feel pretty sure it happened

at Beth isreal in lower Manhattan. It was a freak

accident because they were trying out a new machine to

purchase and allowed the sales rep. to do the demo on

this patient's surgery. Crazy isn't it?

--- Bonnie Andrukaitis

wrote:

> Celeste,

> I don't understand at all.Could you elaborate.Are

> you sure its Beth Israel?

> Best,

> Bonnie

>

> celeste keane wrote:

>

> > Hi Hazel and Bonnie, I believe the case was even

> more

> > complicated than the fluids. Apparently the women

> was

> > attended by a sales rep. from the company trying

> to

> > sell Beth Isreal Hospital a new machine for the

> > procedure, Of course that person did not know

> what

> > they were doing and supposedly the physican

> allowed

> > this to go on.

> > --- Bonnie Andrukaitis

> > wrote:

> > > Hi Hazel,

> > > So I wasn't dreaming it-you must be in NYC or

> the

> > > area.Anyway you can think of to check who the

> > > doctor was? I wonder how you die from too much

> > > fluid,maybe it fills the lungs.I remember a coma

> > > patient I knew very well and one day his face

> was

> > > swollen like a basketball,it was

> over-hydration.But

> > > he didn't die,maybe they got it adjusted.

> > > Its just they are telling me that my myo would

> > > involve more rsik etc. and I am interested in

> all

> > > these casualities.

> > > Anyway

> > > as always

> > > Best,

> > > Bonnie

> > >

> > >

> > > swan511 wrote:

> > >

> > > > Hi Bonnie,

> > > > I remember that case last year where that

> young

> > > woman died as a result of a

> > > > myomectomy and I know for a fact that was not

> Dr.

> > > West's patient. I believe

> > > > she was given too much fluid during the

> procedure.

> > > > Hazel

> > > >

> > > > Re: Re:

> > > Hysterectomy vs Myomectomy

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- njr@... wrote:

> > > > > > > > I am 43 and had a myomectomy in

> October

> > > and I

> > > > > > > > feel great(and I

> > > > > > > > still have all my pieces). My surgeon

> is

> > > Dr.

> > > > > > > > Stanley West, author

> > > > > > > > of " The Hysterectomy Hoax " .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I was considering Dr. West until someone

> > > from

> > > > > > > DelJunco's (Female Alternative Surgery)

> > > (Hufnagel's

> > > > > > > " prodigy " ) told me that one of Dr.

> West's

> > > patients

> > > > > > > DIED from post-operative bleeding.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am a bit surprised to see so many

> women

> > > here who

> > > > > > > used West. By the way, I am new, from

> CA, so

> > > I have

> > > > > > > heard all about the whole Hufnagel " No

> More

> > > > > > > Hysterectomies " losing her license

> > > scandal.... and I

> > > > > > > would consider DelJunco but alas he is

> not

> > > even a gyn

> > > > > > > nor even Board Certified.... I have

> heard

> > > from women

> > > > > > > who rave about him tho. This is all so

> > > confusing!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I mean, what's a girl to think? They

> write

> > > books and

> > > > > > > lose their license (Vicki Hufnagel...not

> > > spoken of

> > > > > > > highly elsewhere on this site)... they

> save

> > > uteri and

> > > > > > > get criticized by the vast majority of

> > > GYN's.... I

> > > > > > > mean this is not exactly a picnic now is

> it?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have heard UAE slammed... I have heard

> it

> > > all at

> > > > > > > this point... I am just wanting to get

> it

> > > over with

> > > > > > > and have a myo but at the present I am

> still

> > > trying to

> > > > > > > figure out with whom!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have a very large multi-fibroid uterus

> and

> > > adenoymas

> > > > > > > to boot. I am 46 and so you can imagine

> the

> > > amount of

> > > > > > > flak I get for wanting to save it! Oh

> for

> > > Pete's

> > > > > > > sake.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Well how's that for my intro to the

> group?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I was wanting to ask the womem who went

> to

> > > West, were

> > > > > > > you aware of the death when you made

> your

> > > decision?

> > > > > > > What was your impression of him ( I do

> not

>

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[Guest guest]

I cannot be 100% sure but feel pretty sure it happened

at Beth isreal in lower Manhattan. It was a freak

accident because they were trying out a new machine to

purchase and allowed the sales rep. to do the demo on

this patient's surgery. Crazy isn't it?

--- Bonnie Andrukaitis

wrote:

> Celeste,

> I don't understand at all.Could you elaborate.Are

> you sure its Beth Israel?

> Best,

> Bonnie

>

> celeste keane wrote:

>

> > Hi Hazel and Bonnie, I believe the case was even

> more

> > complicated than the fluids. Apparently the women

> was

> > attended by a sales rep. from the company trying

> to

> > sell Beth Isreal Hospital a new machine for the

> > procedure, Of course that person did not know

> what

> > they were doing and supposedly the physican

> allowed

> > this to go on.

> > --- Bonnie Andrukaitis

> > wrote:

> > > Hi Hazel,

> > > So I wasn't dreaming it-you must be in NYC or

> the

> > > area.Anyway you can think of to check who the

> > > doctor was? I wonder how you die from too much

> > > fluid,maybe it fills the lungs.I remember a coma

> > > patient I knew very well and one day his face

> was

> > > swollen like a basketball,it was

> over-hydration.But

> > > he didn't die,maybe they got it adjusted.

> > > Its just they are telling me that my myo would

> > > involve more rsik etc. and I am interested in

> all

> > > these casualities.

> > > Anyway

> > > as always

> > > Best,

> > > Bonnie

> > >

> > >

> > > swan511 wrote:

> > >

> > > > Hi Bonnie,

> > > > I remember that case last year where that

> young

> > > woman died as a result of a

> > > > myomectomy and I know for a fact that was not

> Dr.

> > > West's patient. I believe

> > > > she was given too much fluid during the

> procedure.

> > > > Hazel

> > > >

> > > > Re: Re:

> > > Hysterectomy vs Myomectomy

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- njr@... wrote:

> > > > > > > > I am 43 and had a myomectomy in

> October

> > > and I

> > > > > > > > feel great(and I

> > > > > > > > still have all my pieces). My surgeon

> is

> > > Dr.

> > > > > > > > Stanley West, author

> > > > > > > > of " The Hysterectomy Hoax " .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I was considering Dr. West until someone

> > > from

> > > > > > > DelJunco's (Female Alternative Surgery)

> > > (Hufnagel's

> > > > > > > " prodigy " ) told me that one of Dr.

> West's

> > > patients

> > > > > > > DIED from post-operative bleeding.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am a bit surprised to see so many

> women

> > > here who

> > > > > > > used West. By the way, I am new, from

> CA, so

> > > I have

> > > > > > > heard all about the whole Hufnagel " No

> More

> > > > > > > Hysterectomies " losing her license

> > > scandal.... and I

> > > > > > > would consider DelJunco but alas he is

> not

> > > even a gyn

> > > > > > > nor even Board Certified.... I have

> heard

> > > from women

> > > > > > > who rave about him tho. This is all so

> > > confusing!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I mean, what's a girl to think? They

> write

> > > books and

> > > > > > > lose their license (Vicki Hufnagel...not

> > > spoken of

> > > > > > > highly elsewhere on this site)... they

> save

> > > uteri and

> > > > > > > get criticized by the vast majority of

> > > GYN's.... I

> > > > > > > mean this is not exactly a picnic now is

> it?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have heard UAE slammed... I have heard

> it

> > > all at

> > > > > > > this point... I am just wanting to get

> it

> > > over with

> > > > > > > and have a myo but at the present I am

> still

> > > trying to

> > > > > > > figure out with whom!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have a very large multi-fibroid uterus

> and

> > > adenoymas

> > > > > > > to boot. I am 46 and so you can imagine

> the

> > > amount of

> > > > > > > flak I get for wanting to save it! Oh

> for

> > > Pete's

> > > > > > > sake.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Well how's that for my intro to the

> group?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I was wanting to ask the womem who went

> to

> > > West, were

> > > > > > > you aware of the death when you made

> your

> > > decision?

> > > > > > > What was your impression of him ( I do

> not

>

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[Guest guest]

UNBELIEVABLE!

At 10:32 PM 3/14/01 -0800, you wrote:

>Well, at my last consultation, in Santa , plush

>office, top notch credentials.... the guy in his 50's

>told me that " we do the same things here that you have

>researched " . He was indignant. But when questioned,

>he had not heard of harmonic scalpel, thought laser

>was too much trouble to do the training for and get

>certified on, and they cost too much (I'm sure he

>could afford it) and he does maybe 3 myo's a year and

>dislikes them and told me my only option was hyst. He

>went on to say that any doctor who told me differently

>was LYING to me and that I would still wake up with a

>hyst....that they were just trying to get the

>business.

>I'm telling you some of this is just disgusting.

>- B

>--- GG Schaumburg wrote:

> > bastard hotshots. what arrogance. the hippocratic

> > oath should be read daily. a requirement, not the

> > Wall Street Journal. I was in an ICU once when an

> > incompetent chief of staff got pissed because the

> > heart surgeon Fred did an emergency tracheotomy on

> > his patient, a 28 year old woman, and saved her. I

> > thought Fred would deck the arrogant dick. Fred

> > said, " at least she isn't blue now, " bastids. I'm

> > sorry, there is no room whatsoever for arrogance.

> > The " hey look at me, aren't I cool, I can do these

> > procedures faster than you can, " school of egoism.

> > Sorry for the rant. But these are our bodies!

> >

> > Belzer wrote:

> >

> > > I think I'll put my two cents worth in here. The

> > way

> > > DelJunco's office told me was like it is a

> > competition

> > > btwn the doctors who say they can save any

> > uterus...

> > > and even past that, a matter of the doctor wanting

> > to

> > > preserve his reputation for being a God in this

> > area.

> > > So the thinking was that when they are confronted

> > with

> > > a case, where perhaps there is a problem they

> > don't

> > > want to admit it, maybe even to themselves. From

> > what

> > > I have seen posted here, West has this attitude in

> > > another area...post-operative pain. He refused to

> > > admit it could be there with his expertise!

> > >

> > > According to DelJunco, only HE has all the right

> > > combination of procedures to ensure a safe result.

> > Of

> > > course, I have a problem with that too. That just

> > > dosen't seem right. At present, I am looking for

> > > someone in the middle btwn one of the " hot shots "

> > and

> > > they ones with little or no myo experience.

> > >

> > > --- margaretleo@... wrote:

> > > > The New York State Department of Health has a

> > > > website which gives information on doctors who

> > have

> > > > been sited for various violations. Check there.

> > > >

> > > > Keep in mind that any surgical procedure

> > contains an

> > > > element of risk. Even if this story is true you

> > > > should not rule out myomectomy or this doctor.

> > Also

> > > > remember that many good doctors have been sued.

> > > >

> > > > I have a friend who underwent a myomectomy

> > performed

> > > > by West and she was very happy with the results.

> > > > That doesn't mean he can't make mistakes, but

> > > > overall his reputation is good. I would suggest

> > > > making an appointment and asking him point blank

> > > > about this story. His reaction should tell you a

> > > > lot.

> > > >

> > > > Good luck.

> > > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

[Guest guest]

Well malpractice is not very common in Canada.I do not know what NE stands

for,but I do not think it

matters.

If the patient knew that the doctor came from Canada and that should be

information available,through

the local U.S, liscensing board- " where did he receive medical training? " Then

the patient could

called The College of Physicians and Surgeons for that province and ask if he

was a member in good

standing.Now he could be fleeing malpractise and the patient never filed a

complaint with the

college,but somehow I would find it unlikely.,but plausible.

Also a doctor must have a liscense for each individual state .It would not be

possible,I would

think,for the State of California to liscense someone who had any marks against

their record.The

liscensing for the State of California is one of the most difficult exams to

pass.Now maybe if he

were going from Canada to Maine,that might be easier,maybe his Canadian liscense

would almost

" automatically " be accepted.However,I know for a fact,since I have friends and a

family member who

are liscensed in the State of California,that the board exams would be very

difficult to pass,and any

indiscretion listed with the College would make the applicant ineligble.

Best,

Bonnie

Carla Dionne wrote:

> Well, I actually do know of one doc practicing in the NE who came from

> Canada after fleeing from a malpractice suit. Regardless of the country

> and the flight of the doc, docs do this to protect themselves and

> continue practicing. And there really is very little that we can do to

> determine the background info of many, many docs. Wish there were.

> carla

>

> Bonnie Andrukaitis wrote:

>

> > Carla,

> > We don't have bad doctors who migrate to the states,its the other way

> > around I was told.LOL

> > Bonnie

>

>

[Guest guest]

Carla,

Sorry,I am doing what you just asked us not to-but just a thought re:death and

hyster,and death and

myo.

Would you have the statistics on this? How many deaths,per capita,lets say for

each procedure.

Also, really,from my gut feeling,I would not ,under any circumstances let a

doctor do surgery on ME

who had had a patient die in surgery previously.Not unless the surgery was so

complex that world

statistics put survival at very low and this was life saving-lets say certain

types of brain surgery.

This is how I feel someone else might say " accidents happen " and be very

comfortable.I would be a

complete basket case and it would be entirely 100% against my better judgement

and intuitive sense.

Best,

Bonnie

P.S. Next time I'll " bundle " my message,but I thought I was finished and got up

to do something else

and it hit me.

Carla Dionne wrote:

> Well, I actually do know of one doc practicing in the NE who came from

> Canada after fleeing from a malpractice suit. Regardless of the country

> and the flight of the doc, docs do this to protect themselves and

> continue practicing. And there really is very little that we can do to

> determine the background info of many, many docs. Wish there were.

> carla

>

> Bonnie Andrukaitis wrote:

>

> > Carla,

> > We don't have bad doctors who migrate to the states,its the other way

> > around I was told.LOL

> > Bonnie

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Carla. I'll check that out.