Re: Re: Hysterectomy vs Myomectomy

[Guest guest]

How big were your fibroids? I am almost 50 and am looking into myo after failed

UAE.Could you give

more details?

Best,

Bonnie

njr@... wrote:

> I am 43 and had a myomectomy in October and I feel great(and I

> still have all my pieces). My surgeon is Dr. Stanley West, author

> of " The Hysterectomy Hoax " . I had visited with 2 other gyns (one

> male and one female) who could only recommend hysterectomy as a cure

> for my benign fibroids.

>

> There are quite a few options available to " women of our age "

> other than hysterectomy. Please do some research - and get yourself

> a second opinion (or third or forth) before you consent to

> hysterectomy. A hysterectomy should only be used as a last resort if

> all else fails. I have included links to a couple of excellent

> websites that offer tons of information on fibroids and treatments.

>

> http://www.uterinefibroids.com

> http://www.nuff.org

> http://www.repmed.com (Stanley West's site)

>

> Hope this helps.

>

>

>

> > Well Ijust got back from my gyn and he is recommending Vaginal

> > Hysterectomy and because of my age (43, almost 44) would not

> > reccomend Myomectomy.

> >

> > Uterus is 12-13 weeks in size and he did not tell me how many

> > fibroids I have but felt they might come back if I only have a

> > myomectomy. Says the uterus has nothing to do with orgasms.

> >

> > I'm not sure if I should schedule the surgery or search for another

> > opinion.

> >

> > I am in Denver, has anyone in Denver had a myomectomy and someone

> > they could refer me to for a 2nd opinion?

> >

> > Carolyn

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

--- njr@... wrote:

> I am 43 and had a myomectomy in October and I

> feel great(and I

> still have all my pieces). My surgeon is Dr.

> Stanley West, author

> of " The Hysterectomy Hoax " .

I was considering Dr. West until someone from

DelJunco's (Female Alternative Surgery) (Hufnagel's

" prodigy " ) told me that one of Dr. West's patients

DIED from post-operative bleeding.

I am a bit surprised to see so many women here who

used West. By the way, I am new, from CA, so I have

heard all about the whole Hufnagel " No More

Hysterectomies " losing her license scandal.... and I

would consider DelJunco but alas he is not even a gyn

nor even Board Certified.... I have heard from women

who rave about him tho. This is all so confusing!

I mean, what's a girl to think? They write books and

lose their license (Vicki Hufnagel...not spoken of

highly elsewhere on this site)... they save uteri and

get criticized by the vast majority of GYN's.... I

mean this is not exactly a picnic now is it?

I have heard UAE slammed... I have heard it all at

this point... I am just wanting to get it over with

and have a myo but at the present I am still trying to

figure out with whom!

I have a very large multi-fibroid uterus and adenoymas

to boot. I am 46 and so you can imagine the amount of

flak I get for wanting to save it! Oh for Pete's

sake.

Well how's that for my intro to the group?

I was wanting to ask the womem who went to West, were

you aware of the death when you made your decision?

What was your impression of him ( I do not like what I

have read here about his not listening about post-op

pain)? What's his office like? How about the

hospital? I personally want to go to a hospital that

is VERY CUSHY..... I swear if I have to go thru that I

want a foot rub and some ice cream (ha ha)!

I wish everyone the very best with your personal

situations..... and just hope you will all RESEARCH

this thoroughly before you do anything. Seems to me

we are on the cutting edge of a major and

controversial shift in women's health care, and it is

up to us to help shape it. Kudos to the website

creator and any physician like minded.

- (newbie)

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/13/01 8:28:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,

annab236@... writes:

> I personally want to go to a hospital that

> is VERY CUSHY..... I swear if I have to go thru that I

>

Me too!

Maybe the foot rub and ice cream can be an alternative pain management

technique!

Sounds great!

Patty

[Guest guest]

The New York State Department of Health has a website which gives information on

doctors who have been sited for various violations. Check there.

Keep in mind that any surgical procedure contains an element of risk. Even if

this story is true you should not rule out myomectomy or this doctor. Also

remember that many good doctors have been sued.

I have a friend who underwent a myomectomy performed by West and she was very

happy with the results. That doesn't mean he can't make mistakes, but overall

his reputation is good. I would suggest making an appointment and asking him

point blank about this story. His reaction should tell you a lot.

Good luck.

[Guest guest]

Hazel,,

I am myomectomy " shopping " and of course West is on my shopping list.There must

be a way to find out

if a patient ever died during myomectomy.I do remember tallking over the phone

with someone from New

York about this time last year and she mentioned that there had been a death in

New York with

myomectomy-whether this was West's patient or not I do not know.Wait,I have an

idea.How about

contacting the New York Times?

I would always take information with a grain of salt but I would NEVER ignore

information like this

before checking it.The woman I spoke to who told me this had been a medical

reporter many years

ago-this wasn't gossip in a bar somewhere.I would not ignore this.But that's my

approach.

Best,

Bonnie

swan511 wrote:

> ,

> In addition, I think Dr. West is an excellent surgeon and I have no regrets.

> Like I said all information has to be taken with a grain of salt and

> consider the source.

> Hazel

>

> Re: Re: Hysterectomy vs Myomectomy

>

> > --- njr@... wrote:

> > > I am 43 and had a myomectomy in October and I

> > > feel great(and I

> > > still have all my pieces). My surgeon is Dr.

> > > Stanley West, author

> > > of " The Hysterectomy Hoax " .

> >

> > I was considering Dr. West until someone from

> > DelJunco's (Female Alternative Surgery) (Hufnagel's

> > " prodigy " ) told me that one of Dr. West's patients

> > DIED from post-operative bleeding.

> >

> > I am a bit surprised to see so many women here who

> > used West. By the way, I am new, from CA, so I have

> > heard all about the whole Hufnagel " No More

> > Hysterectomies " losing her license scandal.... and I

> > would consider DelJunco but alas he is not even a gyn

> > nor even Board Certified.... I have heard from women

> > who rave about him tho. This is all so confusing!

> >

> > I mean, what's a girl to think? They write books and

> > lose their license (Vicki Hufnagel...not spoken of

> > highly elsewhere on this site)... they save uteri and

> > get criticized by the vast majority of GYN's.... I

> > mean this is not exactly a picnic now is it?

> >

> > I have heard UAE slammed... I have heard it all at

> > this point... I am just wanting to get it over with

> > and have a myo but at the present I am still trying to

> > figure out with whom!

> >

> > I have a very large multi-fibroid uterus and adenoymas

> > to boot. I am 46 and so you can imagine the amount of

> > flak I get for wanting to save it! Oh for Pete's

> > sake.

> >

> > Well how's that for my intro to the group?

> >

> > I was wanting to ask the womem who went to West, were

> > you aware of the death when you made your decision?

> > What was your impression of him ( I do not like what I

> > have read here about his not listening about post-op

> > pain)? What's his office like? How about the

> > hospital? I personally want to go to a hospital that

> > is VERY CUSHY..... I swear if I have to go thru that I

> > want a foot rub and some ice cream (ha ha)!

> >

> > I wish everyone the very best with your personal

> > situations..... and just hope you will all RESEARCH

> > this thoroughly before you do anything. Seems to me

> > we are on the cutting edge of a major and

> > controversial shift in women's health care, and it is

> > up to us to help shape it. Kudos to the website

> > creator and any physician like minded.

> >

> > - (newbie)

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

Hazel,,

I am myomectomy " shopping " and of course West is on my shopping list.There must

be a way to find out

if a patient ever died during myomectomy.I do remember tallking over the phone

with someone from New

York about this time last year and she mentioned that there had been a death in

New York with

myomectomy-whether this was West's patient or not I do not know.Wait,I have an

idea.How about

contacting the New York Times?

I would always take information with a grain of salt but I would NEVER ignore

information like this

before checking it.The woman I spoke to who told me this had been a medical

reporter many years

ago-this wasn't gossip in a bar somewhere.I would not ignore this.But that's my

approach.

Best,

Bonnie

swan511 wrote:

> ,

> In addition, I think Dr. West is an excellent surgeon and I have no regrets.

> Like I said all information has to be taken with a grain of salt and

> consider the source.

> Hazel

>

> Re: Re: Hysterectomy vs Myomectomy

>

> > --- njr@... wrote:

> > > I am 43 and had a myomectomy in October and I

> > > feel great(and I

> > > still have all my pieces). My surgeon is Dr.

> > > Stanley West, author

> > > of " The Hysterectomy Hoax " .

> >

> > I was considering Dr. West until someone from

> > DelJunco's (Female Alternative Surgery) (Hufnagel's

> > " prodigy " ) told me that one of Dr. West's patients

> > DIED from post-operative bleeding.

> >

> > I am a bit surprised to see so many women here who

> > used West. By the way, I am new, from CA, so I have

> > heard all about the whole Hufnagel " No More

> > Hysterectomies " losing her license scandal.... and I

> > would consider DelJunco but alas he is not even a gyn

> > nor even Board Certified.... I have heard from women

> > who rave about him tho. This is all so confusing!

> >

> > I mean, what's a girl to think? They write books and

> > lose their license (Vicki Hufnagel...not spoken of

> > highly elsewhere on this site)... they save uteri and

> > get criticized by the vast majority of GYN's.... I

> > mean this is not exactly a picnic now is it?

> >

> > I have heard UAE slammed... I have heard it all at

> > this point... I am just wanting to get it over with

> > and have a myo but at the present I am still trying to

> > figure out with whom!

> >

> > I have a very large multi-fibroid uterus and adenoymas

> > to boot. I am 46 and so you can imagine the amount of

> > flak I get for wanting to save it! Oh for Pete's

> > sake.

> >

> > Well how's that for my intro to the group?

> >

> > I was wanting to ask the womem who went to West, were

> > you aware of the death when you made your decision?

> > What was your impression of him ( I do not like what I

> > have read here about his not listening about post-op

> > pain)? What's his office like? How about the

> > hospital? I personally want to go to a hospital that

> > is VERY CUSHY..... I swear if I have to go thru that I

> > want a foot rub and some ice cream (ha ha)!

> >

> > I wish everyone the very best with your personal

> > situations..... and just hope you will all RESEARCH

> > this thoroughly before you do anything. Seems to me

> > we are on the cutting edge of a major and

> > controversial shift in women's health care, and it is

> > up to us to help shape it. Kudos to the website

> > creator and any physician like minded.

> >

> > - (newbie)

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

Hazel,,

I am myomectomy " shopping " and of course West is on my shopping list.There must

be a way to find out

if a patient ever died during myomectomy.I do remember tallking over the phone

with someone from New

York about this time last year and she mentioned that there had been a death in

New York with

myomectomy-whether this was West's patient or not I do not know.Wait,I have an

idea.How about

contacting the New York Times?

I would always take information with a grain of salt but I would NEVER ignore

information like this

before checking it.The woman I spoke to who told me this had been a medical

reporter many years

ago-this wasn't gossip in a bar somewhere.I would not ignore this.But that's my

approach.

Best,

Bonnie

swan511 wrote:

> ,

> In addition, I think Dr. West is an excellent surgeon and I have no regrets.

> Like I said all information has to be taken with a grain of salt and

> consider the source.

> Hazel

>

> Re: Re: Hysterectomy vs Myomectomy

>

> > --- njr@... wrote:

> > > I am 43 and had a myomectomy in October and I

> > > feel great(and I

> > > still have all my pieces). My surgeon is Dr.

> > > Stanley West, author

> > > of " The Hysterectomy Hoax " .

> >

> > I was considering Dr. West until someone from

> > DelJunco's (Female Alternative Surgery) (Hufnagel's

> > " prodigy " ) told me that one of Dr. West's patients

> > DIED from post-operative bleeding.

> >

> > I am a bit surprised to see so many women here who

> > used West. By the way, I am new, from CA, so I have

> > heard all about the whole Hufnagel " No More

> > Hysterectomies " losing her license scandal.... and I

> > would consider DelJunco but alas he is not even a gyn

> > nor even Board Certified.... I have heard from women

> > who rave about him tho. This is all so confusing!

> >

> > I mean, what's a girl to think? They write books and

> > lose their license (Vicki Hufnagel...not spoken of

> > highly elsewhere on this site)... they save uteri and

> > get criticized by the vast majority of GYN's.... I

> > mean this is not exactly a picnic now is it?

> >

> > I have heard UAE slammed... I have heard it all at

> > this point... I am just wanting to get it over with

> > and have a myo but at the present I am still trying to

> > figure out with whom!

> >

> > I have a very large multi-fibroid uterus and adenoymas

> > to boot. I am 46 and so you can imagine the amount of

> > flak I get for wanting to save it! Oh for Pete's

> > sake.

> >

> > Well how's that for my intro to the group?

> >

> > I was wanting to ask the womem who went to West, were

> > you aware of the death when you made your decision?

> > What was your impression of him ( I do not like what I

> > have read here about his not listening about post-op

> > pain)? What's his office like? How about the

> > hospital? I personally want to go to a hospital that

> > is VERY CUSHY..... I swear if I have to go thru that I

> > want a foot rub and some ice cream (ha ha)!

> >

> > I wish everyone the very best with your personal

> > situations..... and just hope you will all RESEARCH

> > this thoroughly before you do anything. Seems to me

> > we are on the cutting edge of a major and

> > controversial shift in women's health care, and it is

> > up to us to help shape it. Kudos to the website

> > creator and any physician like minded.

> >

> > - (newbie)

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I asked Dr. West specifically if any of his patients ever died from a

myomectomy performed by him and he told me no! I would be VERY upset if what

you are saying is true. I take all information with a grain of salt. When I

was looking for a doctor I contacted the HERS foundation and they would not

recommend Dr. West. When I asked why I was not given a reason. I found out

from an independent source that the reason that they won't recommend him has

to do with a lawsuit over book royalties that HERS is involved in.

Hazel

Re: Re: Hysterectomy vs Myomectomy

> --- njr@... wrote:

> > I am 43 and had a myomectomy in October and I

> > feel great(and I

> > still have all my pieces). My surgeon is Dr.

> > Stanley West, author

> > of " The Hysterectomy Hoax " .

>

> I was considering Dr. West until someone from

> DelJunco's (Female Alternative Surgery) (Hufnagel's

> " prodigy " ) told me that one of Dr. West's patients

> DIED from post-operative bleeding.

>

> I am a bit surprised to see so many women here who

> used West. By the way, I am new, from CA, so I have

> heard all about the whole Hufnagel " No More

> Hysterectomies " losing her license scandal.... and I

> would consider DelJunco but alas he is not even a gyn

> nor even Board Certified.... I have heard from women

> who rave about him tho. This is all so confusing!

>

> I mean, what's a girl to think? They write books and

> lose their license (Vicki Hufnagel...not spoken of

> highly elsewhere on this site)... they save uteri and

> get criticized by the vast majority of GYN's.... I

> mean this is not exactly a picnic now is it?

>

> I have heard UAE slammed... I have heard it all at

> this point... I am just wanting to get it over with

> and have a myo but at the present I am still trying to

> figure out with whom!

>

> I have a very large multi-fibroid uterus and adenoymas

> to boot. I am 46 and so you can imagine the amount of

> flak I get for wanting to save it! Oh for Pete's

> sake.

>

> Well how's that for my intro to the group?

>

> I was wanting to ask the womem who went to West, were

> you aware of the death when you made your decision?

> What was your impression of him ( I do not like what I

> have read here about his not listening about post-op

> pain)? What's his office like? How about the

> hospital? I personally want to go to a hospital that

> is VERY CUSHY..... I swear if I have to go thru that I

> want a foot rub and some ice cream (ha ha)!

>

> I wish everyone the very best with your personal

> situations..... and just hope you will all RESEARCH

> this thoroughly before you do anything. Seems to me

> we are on the cutting edge of a major and

> controversial shift in women's health care, and it is

> up to us to help shape it. Kudos to the website

> creator and any physician like minded.

>

> - (newbie)

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I asked Dr. West specifically if any of his patients ever died from a

myomectomy performed by him and he told me no! I would be VERY upset if what

you are saying is true. I take all information with a grain of salt. When I

was looking for a doctor I contacted the HERS foundation and they would not

recommend Dr. West. When I asked why I was not given a reason. I found out

from an independent source that the reason that they won't recommend him has

to do with a lawsuit over book royalties that HERS is involved in.

Hazel

Re: Re: Hysterectomy vs Myomectomy

> --- njr@... wrote:

> > I am 43 and had a myomectomy in October and I

> > feel great(and I

> > still have all my pieces). My surgeon is Dr.

> > Stanley West, author

> > of " The Hysterectomy Hoax " .

>

> I was considering Dr. West until someone from

> DelJunco's (Female Alternative Surgery) (Hufnagel's

> " prodigy " ) told me that one of Dr. West's patients

> DIED from post-operative bleeding.

>

> I am a bit surprised to see so many women here who

> used West. By the way, I am new, from CA, so I have

> heard all about the whole Hufnagel " No More

> Hysterectomies " losing her license scandal.... and I

> would consider DelJunco but alas he is not even a gyn

> nor even Board Certified.... I have heard from women

> who rave about him tho. This is all so confusing!

>

> I mean, what's a girl to think? They write books and

> lose their license (Vicki Hufnagel...not spoken of

> highly elsewhere on this site)... they save uteri and

> get criticized by the vast majority of GYN's.... I

> mean this is not exactly a picnic now is it?

>

> I have heard UAE slammed... I have heard it all at

> this point... I am just wanting to get it over with

> and have a myo but at the present I am still trying to

> figure out with whom!

>

> I have a very large multi-fibroid uterus and adenoymas

> to boot. I am 46 and so you can imagine the amount of

> flak I get for wanting to save it! Oh for Pete's

> sake.

>

> Well how's that for my intro to the group?

>

> I was wanting to ask the womem who went to West, were

> you aware of the death when you made your decision?

> What was your impression of him ( I do not like what I

> have read here about his not listening about post-op

> pain)? What's his office like? How about the

> hospital? I personally want to go to a hospital that

> is VERY CUSHY..... I swear if I have to go thru that I

> want a foot rub and some ice cream (ha ha)!

>

> I wish everyone the very best with your personal

> situations..... and just hope you will all RESEARCH

> this thoroughly before you do anything. Seems to me

> we are on the cutting edge of a major and

> controversial shift in women's health care, and it is

> up to us to help shape it. Kudos to the website

> creator and any physician like minded.

>

> - (newbie)

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

,

In addition, I think Dr. West is an excellent surgeon and I have no regrets.

Like I said all information has to be taken with a grain of salt and

consider the source.

Hazel

Re: Re: Hysterectomy vs Myomectomy

> --- njr@... wrote:

> > I am 43 and had a myomectomy in October and I

> > feel great(and I

> > still have all my pieces). My surgeon is Dr.

> > Stanley West, author

> > of " The Hysterectomy Hoax " .

>

> I was considering Dr. West until someone from

> DelJunco's (Female Alternative Surgery) (Hufnagel's

> " prodigy " ) told me that one of Dr. West's patients

> DIED from post-operative bleeding.

>

> I am a bit surprised to see so many women here who

> used West. By the way, I am new, from CA, so I have

> heard all about the whole Hufnagel " No More

> Hysterectomies " losing her license scandal.... and I

> would consider DelJunco but alas he is not even a gyn

> nor even Board Certified.... I have heard from women

> who rave about him tho. This is all so confusing!

>

> I mean, what's a girl to think? They write books and

> lose their license (Vicki Hufnagel...not spoken of

> highly elsewhere on this site)... they save uteri and

> get criticized by the vast majority of GYN's.... I

> mean this is not exactly a picnic now is it?

>

> I have heard UAE slammed... I have heard it all at

> this point... I am just wanting to get it over with

> and have a myo but at the present I am still trying to

> figure out with whom!

>

> I have a very large multi-fibroid uterus and adenoymas

> to boot. I am 46 and so you can imagine the amount of

> flak I get for wanting to save it! Oh for Pete's

> sake.

>

> Well how's that for my intro to the group?

>

> I was wanting to ask the womem who went to West, were

> you aware of the death when you made your decision?

> What was your impression of him ( I do not like what I

> have read here about his not listening about post-op

> pain)? What's his office like? How about the

> hospital? I personally want to go to a hospital that

> is VERY CUSHY..... I swear if I have to go thru that I

> want a foot rub and some ice cream (ha ha)!

>

> I wish everyone the very best with your personal

> situations..... and just hope you will all RESEARCH

> this thoroughly before you do anything. Seems to me

> we are on the cutting edge of a major and

> controversial shift in women's health care, and it is

> up to us to help shape it. Kudos to the website

> creator and any physician like minded.

>

> - (newbie)

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

,

In addition, I think Dr. West is an excellent surgeon and I have no regrets.

Like I said all information has to be taken with a grain of salt and

consider the source.

Hazel

Re: Re: Hysterectomy vs Myomectomy

> --- njr@... wrote:

> > I am 43 and had a myomectomy in October and I

> > feel great(and I

> > still have all my pieces). My surgeon is Dr.

> > Stanley West, author

> > of " The Hysterectomy Hoax " .

>

> I was considering Dr. West until someone from

> DelJunco's (Female Alternative Surgery) (Hufnagel's

> " prodigy " ) told me that one of Dr. West's patients

> DIED from post-operative bleeding.

>

> I am a bit surprised to see so many women here who

> used West. By the way, I am new, from CA, so I have

> heard all about the whole Hufnagel " No More

> Hysterectomies " losing her license scandal.... and I

> would consider DelJunco but alas he is not even a gyn

> nor even Board Certified.... I have heard from women

> who rave about him tho. This is all so confusing!

>

> I mean, what's a girl to think? They write books and

> lose their license (Vicki Hufnagel...not spoken of

> highly elsewhere on this site)... they save uteri and

> get criticized by the vast majority of GYN's.... I

> mean this is not exactly a picnic now is it?

>

> I have heard UAE slammed... I have heard it all at

> this point... I am just wanting to get it over with

> and have a myo but at the present I am still trying to

> figure out with whom!

>

> I have a very large multi-fibroid uterus and adenoymas

> to boot. I am 46 and so you can imagine the amount of

> flak I get for wanting to save it! Oh for Pete's

> sake.

>

> Well how's that for my intro to the group?

>

> I was wanting to ask the womem who went to West, were

> you aware of the death when you made your decision?

> What was your impression of him ( I do not like what I

> have read here about his not listening about post-op

> pain)? What's his office like? How about the

> hospital? I personally want to go to a hospital that

> is VERY CUSHY..... I swear if I have to go thru that I

> want a foot rub and some ice cream (ha ha)!

>

> I wish everyone the very best with your personal

> situations..... and just hope you will all RESEARCH

> this thoroughly before you do anything. Seems to me

> we are on the cutting edge of a major and

> controversial shift in women's health care, and it is

> up to us to help shape it. Kudos to the website

> creator and any physician like minded.

>

> - (newbie)

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

How about contacting DelJunco's office and asking them

where they got this information and how to verify it?

I am halfway considering doing that.

But as to my other questions, what was his office like

and the hospital? Clean, state of the art?

- Belzer

--- Bonnie Andrukaitis

wrote:

> Hazel,,

> I am myomectomy " shopping " and of course West is on

> my shopping list.There must be a way to find out

> if a patient ever died during myomectomy.I do

> remember tallking over the phone with someone from

> New

> York about this time last year and she mentioned

> that there had been a death in New York with

> myomectomy-whether this was West's patient or not I

> do not know.Wait,I have an idea.How about

> contacting the New York Times?

> I would always take information with a grain of salt

> but I would NEVER ignore information like this

> before checking it.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

How about contacting DelJunco's office and asking them

where they got this information and how to verify it?

I am halfway considering doing that.

But as to my other questions, what was his office like

and the hospital? Clean, state of the art?

- Belzer

--- Bonnie Andrukaitis

wrote:

> Hazel,,

> I am myomectomy " shopping " and of course West is on

> my shopping list.There must be a way to find out

> if a patient ever died during myomectomy.I do

> remember tallking over the phone with someone from

> New

> York about this time last year and she mentioned

> that there had been a death in New York with

> myomectomy-whether this was West's patient or not I

> do not know.Wait,I have an idea.How about

> contacting the New York Times?

> I would always take information with a grain of salt

> but I would NEVER ignore information like this

> before checking it.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

How about contacting DelJunco's office and asking them

where they got this information and how to verify it?

I am halfway considering doing that.

But as to my other questions, what was his office like

and the hospital? Clean, state of the art?

- Belzer

--- Bonnie Andrukaitis

wrote:

> Hazel,,

> I am myomectomy " shopping " and of course West is on

> my shopping list.There must be a way to find out

> if a patient ever died during myomectomy.I do

> remember tallking over the phone with someone from

> New

> York about this time last year and she mentioned

> that there had been a death in New York with

> myomectomy-whether this was West's patient or not I

> do not know.Wait,I have an idea.How about

> contacting the New York Times?

> I would always take information with a grain of salt

> but I would NEVER ignore information like this

> before checking it.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Thanks for bringing it up . I'm preparing for abdominal myo in about two

weeks, and any information (good or bad) on the procedure and doctors is

appreciated. It truely is a shame they're isn't a sytematic way to find out

if a doctor and/or hospital has been involved in a lawsuit (and the results),

and the number of wrongful/questionable deaths to help us decide. I guess

until then, we have to rely on each other, sites like this (thanks, Carla),

and word of mouth!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/14/01 9:33:28 PM Eastern Standard Time,

winniebernier@... writes:

> Thanks for bringing it up . I'm preparing for abdominal myo in about

two

>

> weeks, and any information (good or bad) on the procedure and doctors is

> appreciated. It truely is a shame they're isn't a sytematic way to find

out

>

> if a doctor and/or hospital has been involved in a lawsuit (and the

results),

>

> and the number of wrongful/questionable deaths to help us decide. I guess

> until then, we have to rely on each other, sites like this (thanks,

Carla),

> and word of mouth!

Hi--Speaking of Carla. Did you try her website: Sex, Lies, and

Uterine Fibroids http://www.uterinefibroids.com Go to the links

on the left hand side, click on The Decision and you'll see a link

to Doctors & State Medical Board.

Hope this helps.

Marsha

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info Marsha. I just checked out Carla's site and I admire her

effort as one woman who has had fibroids fighting to make a difference and to

help out other women with the plague. But what I envisioned is more of a

country or statewide, government owned type website where you can go in and

just enter a doctor's name and statein which they practice to get a history

report on them.

If anyone knows of anything like this, please let me know, as I'm still

trying to get any information on the doctor performing my surgery...Her name

is Dr. Selick in NYC...

Winnie.

[Guest guest]

Hi Hazel,

So I wasn't dreaming it-you must be in NYC or the area.Anyway you can think of

to check who the

doctor was? I wonder how you die from too much fluid,maybe it fills the lungs.I

remember a coma

patient I knew very well and one day his face was swollen like a basketball,it

was over-hydration.But

he didn't die,maybe they got it adjusted.

Its just they are telling me that my myo would involve more rsik etc. and I am

interested in all

these casualities.

Anyway

as always

Best,

Bonnie

swan511 wrote:

> Hi Bonnie,

> I remember that case last year where that young woman died as a result of a

> myomectomy and I know for a fact that was not Dr. West's patient. I believe

> she was given too much fluid during the procedure.

> Hazel

>

> Re: Re: Hysterectomy vs Myomectomy

> > >

> > > > --- njr@... wrote:

> > > > > I am 43 and had a myomectomy in October and I

> > > > > feel great(and I

> > > > > still have all my pieces). My surgeon is Dr.

> > > > > Stanley West, author

> > > > > of " The Hysterectomy Hoax " .

> > > >

> > > > I was considering Dr. West until someone from

> > > > DelJunco's (Female Alternative Surgery) (Hufnagel's

> > > > " prodigy " ) told me that one of Dr. West's patients

> > > > DIED from post-operative bleeding.

> > > >

> > > > I am a bit surprised to see so many women here who

> > > > used West. By the way, I am new, from CA, so I have

> > > > heard all about the whole Hufnagel " No More

> > > > Hysterectomies " losing her license scandal.... and I

> > > > would consider DelJunco but alas he is not even a gyn

> > > > nor even Board Certified.... I have heard from women

> > > > who rave about him tho. This is all so confusing!

> > > >

> > > > I mean, what's a girl to think? They write books and

> > > > lose their license (Vicki Hufnagel...not spoken of

> > > > highly elsewhere on this site)... they save uteri and

> > > > get criticized by the vast majority of GYN's.... I

> > > > mean this is not exactly a picnic now is it?

> > > >

> > > > I have heard UAE slammed... I have heard it all at

> > > > this point... I am just wanting to get it over with

> > > > and have a myo but at the present I am still trying to

> > > > figure out with whom!

> > > >

> > > > I have a very large multi-fibroid uterus and adenoymas

> > > > to boot. I am 46 and so you can imagine the amount of

> > > > flak I get for wanting to save it! Oh for Pete's

> > > > sake.

> > > >

> > > > Well how's that for my intro to the group?

> > > >

> > > > I was wanting to ask the womem who went to West, were

> > > > you aware of the death when you made your decision?

> > > > What was your impression of him ( I do not like what I

> > > > have read here about his not listening about post-op

> > > > pain)? What's his office like? How about the

> > > > hospital? I personally want to go to a hospital that

> > > > is VERY CUSHY..... I swear if I have to go thru that I

> > > > want a foot rub and some ice cream (ha ha)!

> > > >

> > > > I wish everyone the very best with your personal

> > > > situations..... and just hope you will all RESEARCH

> > > > this thoroughly before you do anything. Seems to me

> > > > we are on the cutting edge of a major and

> > > > controversial shift in women's health care, and it is

> > > > up to us to help shape it. Kudos to the website

> > > > creator and any physician like minded.

> > > >

> > > > - (newbie)

> > > >

> > > > __________________________________________________

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Hazel and Bonnie, I believe the case was even more

complicated than the fluids. Apparently the women was

attended by a sales rep. from the company trying to

sell Beth Isreal Hospital a new machine for the

procedure, Of course that person did not know what

they were doing and supposedly the physican allowed

this to go on.

--- Bonnie Andrukaitis

wrote:

> Hi Hazel,

> So I wasn't dreaming it-you must be in NYC or the

> area.Anyway you can think of to check who the

> doctor was? I wonder how you die from too much

> fluid,maybe it fills the lungs.I remember a coma

> patient I knew very well and one day his face was

> swollen like a basketball,it was over-hydration.But

> he didn't die,maybe they got it adjusted.

> Its just they are telling me that my myo would

> involve more rsik etc. and I am interested in all

> these casualities.

> Anyway

> as always

> Best,

> Bonnie

>

>

> swan511 wrote:

>

> > Hi Bonnie,

> > I remember that case last year where that young

> woman died as a result of a

> > myomectomy and I know for a fact that was not Dr.

> West's patient. I believe

> > she was given too much fluid during the procedure.

> > Hazel

> >

> > Re: Re:

> Hysterectomy vs Myomectomy

> > > >

> > > > > --- njr@... wrote:

> > > > > > I am 43 and had a myomectomy in October

> and I

> > > > > > feel great(and I

> > > > > > still have all my pieces). My surgeon is

> Dr.

> > > > > > Stanley West, author

> > > > > > of " The Hysterectomy Hoax " .

> > > > >

> > > > > I was considering Dr. West until someone

> from

> > > > > DelJunco's (Female Alternative Surgery)

> (Hufnagel's

> > > > > " prodigy " ) told me that one of Dr. West's

> patients

> > > > > DIED from post-operative bleeding.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am a bit surprised to see so many women

> here who

> > > > > used West. By the way, I am new, from CA, so

> I have

> > > > > heard all about the whole Hufnagel " No More

> > > > > Hysterectomies " losing her license

> scandal.... and I

> > > > > would consider DelJunco but alas he is not

> even a gyn

> > > > > nor even Board Certified.... I have heard

> from women

> > > > > who rave about him tho. This is all so

> confusing!

> > > > >

> > > > > I mean, what's a girl to think? They write

> books and

> > > > > lose their license (Vicki Hufnagel...not

> spoken of

> > > > > highly elsewhere on this site)... they save

> uteri and

> > > > > get criticized by the vast majority of

> GYN's.... I

> > > > > mean this is not exactly a picnic now is it?

> > > > >

> > > > > I have heard UAE slammed... I have heard it

> all at

> > > > > this point... I am just wanting to get it

> over with

> > > > > and have a myo but at the present I am still

> trying to

> > > > > figure out with whom!

> > > > >

> > > > > I have a very large multi-fibroid uterus and

> adenoymas

> > > > > to boot. I am 46 and so you can imagine the

> amount of

> > > > > flak I get for wanting to save it! Oh for

> Pete's

> > > > > sake.

> > > > >

> > > > > Well how's that for my intro to the group?

> > > > >

> > > > > I was wanting to ask the womem who went to

> West, were

> > > > > you aware of the death when you made your

> decision?

> > > > > What was your impression of him ( I do not

> like what I

> > > > > have read here about his not listening about

> post-op

> > > > > pain)? What's his office like? How about

> the

> > > > > hospital? I personally want to go to a

> hospital that

> > > > > is VERY CUSHY..... I swear if I have to go

> thru that I

> > > > > want a foot rub and some ice cream (ha ha)!

> > > > >

> > > > > I wish everyone the very best with your

> personal

> > > > > situations..... and just hope you will all

> RESEARCH

> > > > > this thoroughly before you do anything.

> Seems to me

> > > > > we are on the cutting edge of a major and

> > > > > controversial shift in women's health care,

> and it is

> > > > > up to us to help shape it. Kudos to the

> website

> > > > > creator and any physician like minded.

> > > > >

> > > > > - (newbie)

> > > > >

> > > > >

> __________________________________________________

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Hazel and Bonnie, I believe the case was even more

complicated than the fluids. Apparently the women was

attended by a sales rep. from the company trying to

sell Beth Isreal Hospital a new machine for the

procedure, Of course that person did not know what

they were doing and supposedly the physican allowed

this to go on.

--- Bonnie Andrukaitis

wrote:

> Hi Hazel,

> So I wasn't dreaming it-you must be in NYC or the

> area.Anyway you can think of to check who the

> doctor was? I wonder how you die from too much

> fluid,maybe it fills the lungs.I remember a coma

> patient I knew very well and one day his face was

> swollen like a basketball,it was over-hydration.But

> he didn't die,maybe they got it adjusted.

> Its just they are telling me that my myo would

> involve more rsik etc. and I am interested in all

> these casualities.

> Anyway

> as always

> Best,

> Bonnie

>

>

> swan511 wrote:

>

> > Hi Bonnie,

> > I remember that case last year where that young

> woman died as a result of a

> > myomectomy and I know for a fact that was not Dr.

> West's patient. I believe

> > she was given too much fluid during the procedure.

> > Hazel

> >

> > Re: Re:

> Hysterectomy vs Myomectomy

> > > >

> > > > > --- njr@... wrote:

> > > > > > I am 43 and had a myomectomy in October

> and I

> > > > > > feel great(and I

> > > > > > still have all my pieces). My surgeon is

> Dr.

> > > > > > Stanley West, author

> > > > > > of " The Hysterectomy Hoax " .

> > > > >

> > > > > I was considering Dr. West until someone

> from

> > > > > DelJunco's (Female Alternative Surgery)

> (Hufnagel's

> > > > > " prodigy " ) told me that one of Dr. West's

> patients

> > > > > DIED from post-operative bleeding.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am a bit surprised to see so many women

> here who

> > > > > used West. By the way, I am new, from CA, so

> I have

> > > > > heard all about the whole Hufnagel " No More

> > > > > Hysterectomies " losing her license

> scandal.... and I

> > > > > would consider DelJunco but alas he is not

> even a gyn

> > > > > nor even Board Certified.... I have heard

> from women

> > > > > who rave about him tho. This is all so

> confusing!

> > > > >

> > > > > I mean, what's a girl to think? They write

> books and

> > > > > lose their license (Vicki Hufnagel...not

> spoken of

> > > > > highly elsewhere on this site)... they save

> uteri and

> > > > > get criticized by the vast majority of

> GYN's.... I

> > > > > mean this is not exactly a picnic now is it?

> > > > >

> > > > > I have heard UAE slammed... I have heard it

> all at

> > > > > this point... I am just wanting to get it

> over with

> > > > > and have a myo but at the present I am still

> trying to

> > > > > figure out with whom!

> > > > >

> > > > > I have a very large multi-fibroid uterus and

> adenoymas

> > > > > to boot. I am 46 and so you can imagine the

> amount of

> > > > > flak I get for wanting to save it! Oh for

> Pete's

> > > > > sake.

> > > > >

> > > > > Well how's that for my intro to the group?

> > > > >

> > > > > I was wanting to ask the womem who went to

> West, were

> > > > > you aware of the death when you made your

> decision?

> > > > > What was your impression of him ( I do not

> like what I

> > > > > have read here about his not listening about

> post-op

> > > > > pain)? What's his office like? How about

> the

> > > > > hospital? I personally want to go to a

> hospital that

> > > > > is VERY CUSHY..... I swear if I have to go

> thru that I

> > > > > want a foot rub and some ice cream (ha ha)!

> > > > >

> > > > > I wish everyone the very best with your

> personal

> > > > > situations..... and just hope you will all

> RESEARCH

> > > > > this thoroughly before you do anything.

> Seems to me

> > > > > we are on the cutting edge of a major and

> > > > > controversial shift in women's health care,

> and it is

> > > > > up to us to help shape it. Kudos to the

> website

> > > > > creator and any physician like minded.

> > > > >

> > > > > - (newbie)

> > > > >

> > > > >

> __________________________________________________

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Nope, sorry ..... this was told to me directly by

DelJunco's office manager/nurse/wife and it was about

Dr. West. Post-operative bleeding, she said, due to

the fact that the " sewing up " was not done

meticulously enough and there were too many " leaky "

repairs to the uterus. The woman hemmorraged and

died, apparently you can die rather quickly

hemmoraging from the uterus, before anyone can notice

and/or get blood into you. I am only mentioning this

because I was considering Dr. West, and still might

consider him if I could get answers to this.

- B

--- swan511 wrote:

> Hi Bonnie,

> I remember that case last year where that young

> woman died as a result of a

> myomectomy and I know for a fact that was not Dr.

> West's patient. I believe

> she was given too much fluid during the procedure.

> Hazel

>

> Re: Re: Hysterectomy

> vs Myomectomy

> > >

> > > > --- njr@... wrote:

> > > > > I am 43 and had a myomectomy in October

> and I

> > > > > feel great(and I

> > > > > still have all my pieces). My surgeon is

> Dr.

> > > > > Stanley West, author

> > > > > of " The Hysterectomy Hoax " .

> > > >

> > > > I was considering Dr. West until someone from

> > > > DelJunco's (Female Alternative Surgery)

> (Hufnagel's

> > > > " prodigy " ) told me that one of Dr. West's

> patients

> > > > DIED from post-operative bleeding.

> > > >

> > > > I am a bit surprised to see so many women here

> who

> > > > used West. By the way, I am new, from CA, so I

> have

> > > > heard all about the whole Hufnagel " No More

> > > > Hysterectomies " losing her license scandal....

> and I

> > > > would consider DelJunco but alas he is not

> even a gyn

> > > > nor even Board Certified.... I have heard from

> women

> > > > who rave about him tho. This is all so

> confusing!

> > > >

> > > > I mean, what's a girl to think? They write

> books and

> > > > lose their license (Vicki Hufnagel...not

> spoken of

> > > > highly elsewhere on this site)... they save

> uteri and

> > > > get criticized by the vast majority of

> GYN's.... I

> > > > mean this is not exactly a picnic now is it?

> > > >

> > > > I have heard UAE slammed... I have heard it

> all at

> > > > this point... I am just wanting to get it over

> with

> > > > and have a myo but at the present I am still

> trying to

> > > > figure out with whom!

> > > >

> > > > I have a very large multi-fibroid uterus and

> adenoymas

> > > > to boot. I am 46 and so you can imagine the

> amount of

> > > > flak I get for wanting to save it! Oh for

> Pete's

> > > > sake.

> > > >

> > > > Well how's that for my intro to the group?

> > > >

> > > > I was wanting to ask the womem who went to

> West, were

> > > > you aware of the death when you made your

> decision?

> > > > What was your impression of him ( I do not

> like what I

> > > > have read here about his not listening about

> post-op

> > > > pain)? What's his office like? How about the

> > > > hospital? I personally want to go to a

> hospital that

> > > > is VERY CUSHY..... I swear if I have to go

> thru that I

> > > > want a foot rub and some ice cream (ha ha)!

> > > >

> > > > I wish everyone the very best with your

> personal

> > > > situations..... and just hope you will all

> RESEARCH

> > > > this thoroughly before you do anything. Seems

> to me

> > > > we are on the cutting edge of a major and

> > > > controversial shift in women's health care,

> and it is

> > > > up to us to help shape it. Kudos to the

> website

> > > > creator and any physician like minded.

> > > >

> > > > - (newbie)

> > > >

> > > >

> __________________________________________________

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Nope, sorry ..... this was told to me directly by

DelJunco's office manager/nurse/wife and it was about

Dr. West. Post-operative bleeding, she said, due to

the fact that the " sewing up " was not done

meticulously enough and there were too many " leaky "

repairs to the uterus. The woman hemmorraged and

died, apparently you can die rather quickly

hemmoraging from the uterus, before anyone can notice

and/or get blood into you. I am only mentioning this

because I was considering Dr. West, and still might

consider him if I could get answers to this.

- B

--- swan511 wrote:

> Hi Bonnie,

> I remember that case last year where that young

> woman died as a result of a

> myomectomy and I know for a fact that was not Dr.

> West's patient. I believe

> she was given too much fluid during the procedure.

> Hazel

>

> Re: Re: Hysterectomy

> vs Myomectomy

> > >

> > > > --- njr@... wrote:

> > > > > I am 43 and had a myomectomy in October

> and I

> > > > > feel great(and I

> > > > > still have all my pieces). My surgeon is

> Dr.

> > > > > Stanley West, author

> > > > > of " The Hysterectomy Hoax " .

> > > >

> > > > I was considering Dr. West until someone from

> > > > DelJunco's (Female Alternative Surgery)

> (Hufnagel's

> > > > " prodigy " ) told me that one of Dr. West's

> patients

> > > > DIED from post-operative bleeding.

> > > >

> > > > I am a bit surprised to see so many women here

> who

> > > > used West. By the way, I am new, from CA, so I

> have

> > > > heard all about the whole Hufnagel " No More

> > > > Hysterectomies " losing her license scandal....

> and I

> > > > would consider DelJunco but alas he is not

> even a gyn

> > > > nor even Board Certified.... I have heard from

> women

> > > > who rave about him tho. This is all so

> confusing!

> > > >

> > > > I mean, what's a girl to think? They write

> books and

> > > > lose their license (Vicki Hufnagel...not

> spoken of

> > > > highly elsewhere on this site)... they save

> uteri and

> > > > get criticized by the vast majority of

> GYN's.... I

> > > > mean this is not exactly a picnic now is it?

> > > >

> > > > I have heard UAE slammed... I have heard it

> all at

> > > > this point... I am just wanting to get it over

> with

> > > > and have a myo but at the present I am still

> trying to

> > > > figure out with whom!

> > > >

> > > > I have a very large multi-fibroid uterus and

> adenoymas

> > > > to boot. I am 46 and so you can imagine the

> amount of

> > > > flak I get for wanting to save it! Oh for

> Pete's

> > > > sake.

> > > >

> > > > Well how's that for my intro to the group?

> > > >

> > > > I was wanting to ask the womem who went to

> West, were

> > > > you aware of the death when you made your

> decision?

> > > > What was your impression of him ( I do not

> like what I

> > > > have read here about his not listening about

> post-op

> > > > pain)? What's his office like? How about the

> > > > hospital? I personally want to go to a

> hospital that

> > > > is VERY CUSHY..... I swear if I have to go

> thru that I

> > > > want a foot rub and some ice cream (ha ha)!

> > > >

> > > > I wish everyone the very best with your

> personal

> > > > situations..... and just hope you will all

> RESEARCH

> > > > this thoroughly before you do anything. Seems

> to me

> > > > we are on the cutting edge of a major and

> > > > controversial shift in women's health care,

> and it is

> > > > up to us to help shape it. Kudos to the

> website

> > > > creator and any physician like minded.

> > > >

> > > > - (newbie)

> > > >

> > > >

> __________________________________________________

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Yes you all have that right....but this was ANOTHER

woman according to DelJunco. Maybe I will appoint

myself the one to get the details on this and post

them to this list, since I brought it up. It would be

interesting to know whether DelJunco and wife had it

right or not.

- B

--- Donna Jung wrote:

> Bonnie,

>

> I think it was a hysteroscopic myomectomy. It was

> on Dateline NBC.

>

> http://www.msnbc.com/news/237039.asp

>

> Donna

>

>

> > Hi Hazel,

> > So I wasn't dreaming it-you must be in NYC or the

> area.Anyway you

> can think of to check who the

> > doctor was? I wonder how you die from too much

> fluid,maybe it fills

> the lungs.I remember a coma

> > patient I knew very well and one day his face was

> swollen like a

> basketball,it was over-hydration.But

> > he didn't die,maybe they got it adjusted.

> > Its just they are telling me that my myo would

> involve more rsik

> etc. and I am interested in all

> > these casualities.

> > Anyway

> > as always

> > Best,

> > Bonnie

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Donna,

I have a friend over at CBS cuttting for 60 Mins. I'll check in with her

tomorrow to see if she knows

more.How does one die from that?Its not even open abdominal surgery

Best,Donna,

Bonnie

Donna Jung wrote:

> Bonnie,

>

> I think it was a hysteroscopic myomectomy. It was on Dateline NBC.

>

> http://www.msnbc.com/news/237039.asp

>

> Donna

>

>

> > Hi Hazel,

> > So I wasn't dreaming it-you must be in NYC or the area.Anyway you

> can think of to check who the

> > doctor was? I wonder how you die from too much fluid,maybe it fills

> the lungs.I remember a coma

> > patient I knew very well and one day his face was swollen like a

> basketball,it was over-hydration.But

> > he didn't die,maybe they got it adjusted.

> > Its just they are telling me that my myo would involve more rsik

> etc. and I am interested in all

> > these casualities.

> > Anyway

> > as always

> > Best,

> > Bonnie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Celeste,

I don't understand at all.Could you elaborate.Are you sure its Beth Israel?

Best,

Bonnie

celeste keane wrote:

> Hi Hazel and Bonnie, I believe the case was even more

> complicated than the fluids. Apparently the women was

> attended by a sales rep. from the company trying to

> sell Beth Isreal Hospital a new machine for the

> procedure, Of course that person did not know what

> they were doing and supposedly the physican allowed

> this to go on.

> --- Bonnie Andrukaitis

> wrote:

> > Hi Hazel,

> > So I wasn't dreaming it-you must be in NYC or the

> > area.Anyway you can think of to check who the

> > doctor was? I wonder how you die from too much

> > fluid,maybe it fills the lungs.I remember a coma

> > patient I knew very well and one day his face was

> > swollen like a basketball,it was over-hydration.But

> > he didn't die,maybe they got it adjusted.

> > Its just they are telling me that my myo would

> > involve more rsik etc. and I am interested in all

> > these casualities.

> > Anyway

> > as always

> > Best,

> > Bonnie

> >

> >

> > swan511 wrote:

> >

> > > Hi Bonnie,

> > > I remember that case last year where that young

> > woman died as a result of a

> > > myomectomy and I know for a fact that was not Dr.

> > West's patient. I believe

> > > she was given too much fluid during the procedure.

> > > Hazel

> > >

> > > Re: Re:

> > Hysterectomy vs Myomectomy

> > > > >

> > > > > > --- njr@... wrote:

> > > > > > > I am 43 and had a myomectomy in October

> > and I

> > > > > > > feel great(and I

> > > > > > > still have all my pieces). My surgeon is

> > Dr.

> > > > > > > Stanley West, author

> > > > > > > of " The Hysterectomy Hoax " .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I was considering Dr. West until someone

> > from

> > > > > > DelJunco's (Female Alternative Surgery)

> > (Hufnagel's

> > > > > > " prodigy " ) told me that one of Dr. West's

> > patients

> > > > > > DIED from post-operative bleeding.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am a bit surprised to see so many women

> > here who

> > > > > > used West. By the way, I am new, from CA, so

> > I have

> > > > > > heard all about the whole Hufnagel " No More

> > > > > > Hysterectomies " losing her license

> > scandal.... and I

> > > > > > would consider DelJunco but alas he is not

> > even a gyn

> > > > > > nor even Board Certified.... I have heard

> > from women

> > > > > > who rave about him tho. This is all so

> > confusing!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I mean, what's a girl to think? They write

> > books and

> > > > > > lose their license (Vicki Hufnagel...not

> > spoken of

> > > > > > highly elsewhere on this site)... they save

> > uteri and

> > > > > > get criticized by the vast majority of

> > GYN's.... I

> > > > > > mean this is not exactly a picnic now is it?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have heard UAE slammed... I have heard it

> > all at

> > > > > > this point... I am just wanting to get it

> > over with

> > > > > > and have a myo but at the present I am still

> > trying to

> > > > > > figure out with whom!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have a very large multi-fibroid uterus and

> > adenoymas

> > > > > > to boot. I am 46 and so you can imagine the

> > amount of

> > > > > > flak I get for wanting to save it! Oh for

> > Pete's

> > > > > > sake.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Well how's that for my intro to the group?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I was wanting to ask the womem who went to

> > West, were

> > > > > > you aware of the death when you made your

> > decision?

> > > > > > What was your impression of him ( I do not

> > like what I

> > > > > > have read here about his not listening about

> > post-op

> > > > > > pain)? What's his office like? How about

> > the

> > > > > > hospital? I personally want to go to a

> > hospital that

> > > > > > is VERY CUSHY..... I swear if I have to go

> > thru that I

> > > > > > want a foot rub and some ice cream (ha ha)!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I wish everyone the very best with your

> > personal

> > > > > > situations..... and just hope you will all

> > RESEARCH

> > > > > > this thoroughly before you do anything.

> > Seems to me

> > > > > > we are on the cutting edge of a major and

> > > > > > controversial shift in women's health care,

> > and it is

> > > > > > up to us to help shape it. Kudos to the

> > website

> > > > > > creator and any physician like minded.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - (newbie)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > __________________________________________________

> > > > > >