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>> > > > > >Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:01:28 -0400

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >Hi ,

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >I am so happy to hear that Jonah is doing better and gaining

>> >weight.

>> > > >What

>> > > > > >kinds of changes have you made to his treatment that have had

this

>> > > > > >wonderful change? By the way, how are you doing? You have had a

>> >rough

>> > > >go

>> > > > >

>> > > > > >of

>> > > > > >it in the last few months with all of his setbacks. I hope

things

>> >are

>> > > > > >getting easier for you as well. Take care and good to hear from

you

>> > > > > again.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

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I'm sorry , I made a note to myself and meant to put it in my draft

folder so I wouldn't forget to reread all of this stuff about this formula

and think if we should try it. Then I accidently hit the send button

instead.

Sorry.

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I'm sorry , I made a note to myself and meant to put it in my draft

folder so I wouldn't forget to reread all of this stuff about this formula

and think if we should try it. Then I accidently hit the send button

instead.

Sorry.

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On this formula, So many things look and sound so good to me for us to use

and then I notice the added glutamine or glutamic acid and I have to forget

it. Whenever I had the added glutamine I got suicidally depressed. I guess I

can't process it. So I am afraid to give it to the kids since whatever we

have is genetic.

So thank you for taking the time and effort to actually print the infor

right off the package .

S.

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Hi , Jonah is now on a formula called Vivonex Pediatric ans higher

doses of carnitine.The formula is doing wonders for him,it is the first one

that has worked.Apparently it is a substitute for TPN but for oral or gtube

feeds.Also, his the assault on his brain from his high sodium was so

dramatic that when he brain was healing it " kicked in " in areas that were

otherwise dormant perhaps.This is a common phenomenon among brain injuries,

especially in youn children.This is according to what I've been reading on

the subject.I am just so grateful.He is a beautiful sight to behold.How are

you?What have you been up to?

>

>Reply-To: Mitoonelist

>To: " Mito List " <mitoonelist>

>Subject: Jonah

>Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:01:28 -0400

>

>

>

>Hi ,

>

>I am so happy to hear that Jonah is doing better and gaining weight. What

>kinds of changes have you made to his treatment that have had this

>wonderful change? By the way, how are you doing? You have had a rough go

>of

>it in the last few months with all of his setbacks. I hope things are

>getting easier for you as well. Take care and good to hear from you again.

>

>

>

>

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Please share Jonah's diagnosis with me. We have been evaluating carnitine

carrying formula for our Complex-3 deficient child but haven't begun yet.

Any details on diagnosis and results of treatment you could share?

Thx - Hairston

> Jonah

> >Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:01:28 -0400

> >

> >

> >

> >Hi ,

> >

> >I am so happy to hear that Jonah is doing better and gaining weight. What

> >kinds of changes have you made to his treatment that have had this

> >wonderful change? By the way, how are you doing? You have had a rough go

>

> >of

> >it in the last few months with all of his setbacks. I hope things are

> >getting easier for you as well. Take care and good to hear from you

> again.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >---------------------------

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Your comments of brain assault causing new areas in the brain to open up hit

me like a brick. I wonder if this is what happened when my youngest son

" died " for 9 minutes and they revived him with the trache and heart thing.

After he came back he was smarter-he knew new words, etc etc. and was a

gifted student where the other 3 kids had such heavy LD.

Where did you learn that so I can find out more about it?

S.

Jonah

>>Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:01:28 -0400

>>

>>

>>

>>Hi ,

>>

>>I am so happy to hear that Jonah is doing better and gaining weight. What

>>kinds of changes have you made to his treatment that have had this

>>wonderful change? By the way, how are you doing? You have had a rough go

>>of

>>it in the last few months with all of his setbacks. I hope things are

>>getting easier for you as well. Take care and good to hear from you again.

>>

>>

>>

>>

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Your comments of brain assault causing new areas in the brain to open up hit

me like a brick. I wonder if this is what happened when my youngest son

" died " for 9 minutes and they revived him with the trache and heart thing.

After he came back he was smarter-he knew new words, etc etc. and was a

gifted student where the other 3 kids had such heavy LD.

Where did you learn that so I can find out more about it?

S.

Jonah

>>Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:01:28 -0400

>>

>>

>>

>>Hi ,

>>

>>I am so happy to hear that Jonah is doing better and gaining weight. What

>>kinds of changes have you made to his treatment that have had this

>>wonderful change? By the way, how are you doing? You have had a rough go

>>of

>>it in the last few months with all of his setbacks. I hope things are

>>getting easier for you as well. Take care and good to hear from you again.

>>

>>

>>

>>

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Jonah has complex one and a primary carnitine deficiency.He was diagnosed

with two muscle biopsies and a skin biopsy.He responded to carnitine quite

drastically, and continues to do so.The real miracle worker for him though

has been this new formula he has been put on.It is incredible.It is called

Vivonex Pediatric and is manufactured by Novartis Nutrition.It says on the

package that it is an elemental(100% free amino acids)diet for children 1-9

yrs old ansd is an effective alternative to TPN.It is used for stressed,

catabolic children with gastrointestinal impairment who need a feeding that

permits maximum absorbtion with minimal digestion.My son is g-tube fed but

there are flavour packets that can be mixed into it for an oral feeder.This

is the only formula that has worked for him.He takes it in conjuction with

carnitine at 2 mg, 6 times per day, iron,cisapride and beclafen(muscle

relaxant).He is much more stable, has acquired some muscle mass and is

finally, at two years getting teeth.The right nutrition is doing this for

him.We still need to see a mito specialist and are trying to get into

Dr.Shoffner's clinic in Atlanta.Where are you from and who sees your

child?Talk to you soon, and I hope this info helps!

>

>Reply-To: Mitoonelist

>To: " 'Mitoonelist' " <Mitoonelist>

>Subject: RE: Jonah

>Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 23:58:55 -0500

>

>

>

> -

>

>Please share Jonah's diagnosis with me. We have been evaluating carnitine

>carrying formula for our Complex-3 deficient child but haven't begun yet.

>Any details on diagnosis and results of treatment you could share?

>

>Thx - Hairston

>

> > Jonah

> > >Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:01:28 -0400

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >Hi ,

> > >

> > >I am so happy to hear that Jonah is doing better and gaining weight.

>What

> > >kinds of changes have you made to his treatment that have had this

> > >wonderful change? By the way, how are you doing? You have had a rough

>go

> >

> > >of

> > >it in the last few months with all of his setbacks. I hope things are

> > >getting easier for you as well. Take care and good to hear from you

> > again.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >---------------------------

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From what you wrote, it sounds like this would be a good formula for me

to check into. I looked up Norvartis on the web and it looked

interesting. How did you get the Vivonex? Is it through a prescription

or can you just order it? My son has an undiagnosed presumed mito

disorder and I wouldn't mind trying it. Can you give me any add'l info?

Thanks - Gail

.L. wrote:

>

>

>

> Jonah has complex one and a primary carnitine deficiency.He was diagnosed

> with two muscle biopsies and a skin biopsy.He responded to carnitine quite

> drastically, and continues to do so.The real miracle worker for him though

> has been this new formula he has been put on.It is incredible.It is called

> Vivonex Pediatric and is manufactured by Novartis Nutrition.It says on the

> package that it is an elemental(100% free amino acids)diet for children 1-9

> yrs old ansd is an effective alternative to TPN.It is used for stressed,

> catabolic children with gastrointestinal impairment who need a feeding that

> permits maximum absorbtion with minimal digestion.My son is g-tube fed but

> there are flavour packets that can be mixed into it for an oral feeder.This

> is the only formula that has worked for him.He takes it in conjuction with

> carnitine at 2 mg, 6 times per day, iron,cisapride and beclafen(muscle

> relaxant).He is much more stable, has acquired some muscle mass and is

> finally, at two years getting teeth.The right nutrition is doing this for

> him.We still need to see a mito specialist and are trying to get into

> Dr.Shoffner's clinic in Atlanta.Where are you from and who sees your

> child?Talk to you soon, and I hope this info helps!

>

> >

> >Reply-To: Mitoonelist

> >To: " 'Mitoonelist' " <Mitoonelist>

> >Subject: RE: Jonah

> >Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 23:58:55 -0500

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> >

> >Please share Jonah's diagnosis with me. We have been evaluating carnitine

> >carrying formula for our Complex-3 deficient child but haven't begun yet.

> >Any details on diagnosis and results of treatment you could share?

> >

> >Thx - Hairston

> >

> > > Jonah

> > > >Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:01:28 -0400

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >Hi ,

> > > >

> > > >I am so happy to hear that Jonah is doing better and gaining weight.

> >What

> > > >kinds of changes have you made to his treatment that have had this

> > > >wonderful change? By the way, how are you doing? You have had a rough

> >go

> > >

> > > >of

> > > >it in the last few months with all of his setbacks. I hope things are

> > > >getting easier for you as well. Take care and good to hear from you

> > > again.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >---------------------------

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From what you wrote, it sounds like this would be a good formula for me

to check into. I looked up Norvartis on the web and it looked

interesting. How did you get the Vivonex? Is it through a prescription

or can you just order it? My son has an undiagnosed presumed mito

disorder and I wouldn't mind trying it. Can you give me any add'l info?

Thanks - Gail

.L. wrote:

>

>

>

> Jonah has complex one and a primary carnitine deficiency.He was diagnosed

> with two muscle biopsies and a skin biopsy.He responded to carnitine quite

> drastically, and continues to do so.The real miracle worker for him though

> has been this new formula he has been put on.It is incredible.It is called

> Vivonex Pediatric and is manufactured by Novartis Nutrition.It says on the

> package that it is an elemental(100% free amino acids)diet for children 1-9

> yrs old ansd is an effective alternative to TPN.It is used for stressed,

> catabolic children with gastrointestinal impairment who need a feeding that

> permits maximum absorbtion with minimal digestion.My son is g-tube fed but

> there are flavour packets that can be mixed into it for an oral feeder.This

> is the only formula that has worked for him.He takes it in conjuction with

> carnitine at 2 mg, 6 times per day, iron,cisapride and beclafen(muscle

> relaxant).He is much more stable, has acquired some muscle mass and is

> finally, at two years getting teeth.The right nutrition is doing this for

> him.We still need to see a mito specialist and are trying to get into

> Dr.Shoffner's clinic in Atlanta.Where are you from and who sees your

> child?Talk to you soon, and I hope this info helps!

>

> >

> >Reply-To: Mitoonelist

> >To: " 'Mitoonelist' " <Mitoonelist>

> >Subject: RE: Jonah

> >Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 23:58:55 -0500

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> >

> >Please share Jonah's diagnosis with me. We have been evaluating carnitine

> >carrying formula for our Complex-3 deficient child but haven't begun yet.

> >Any details on diagnosis and results of treatment you could share?

> >

> >Thx - Hairston

> >

> > > Jonah

> > > >Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:01:28 -0400

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >Hi ,

> > > >

> > > >I am so happy to hear that Jonah is doing better and gaining weight.

> >What

> > > >kinds of changes have you made to his treatment that have had this

> > > >wonderful change? By the way, how are you doing? You have had a rough

> >go

> > >

> > > >of

> > > >it in the last few months with all of his setbacks. I hope things are

> > > >getting easier for you as well. Take care and good to hear from you

> > > again.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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From what you wrote, it sounds like this would be a good formula for me

to check into. I looked up Norvartis on the web and it looked

interesting. How did you get the Vivonex? Is it through a prescription

or can you just order it? My son has an undiagnosed presumed mito

disorder and I wouldn't mind trying it. Can you give me any add'l info?

Thanks - Gail

.L. wrote:

>

>

>

> Jonah has complex one and a primary carnitine deficiency.He was diagnosed

> with two muscle biopsies and a skin biopsy.He responded to carnitine quite

> drastically, and continues to do so.The real miracle worker for him though

> has been this new formula he has been put on.It is incredible.It is called

> Vivonex Pediatric and is manufactured by Novartis Nutrition.It says on the

> package that it is an elemental(100% free amino acids)diet for children 1-9

> yrs old ansd is an effective alternative to TPN.It is used for stressed,

> catabolic children with gastrointestinal impairment who need a feeding that

> permits maximum absorbtion with minimal digestion.My son is g-tube fed but

> there are flavour packets that can be mixed into it for an oral feeder.This

> is the only formula that has worked for him.He takes it in conjuction with

> carnitine at 2 mg, 6 times per day, iron,cisapride and beclafen(muscle

> relaxant).He is much more stable, has acquired some muscle mass and is

> finally, at two years getting teeth.The right nutrition is doing this for

> him.We still need to see a mito specialist and are trying to get into

> Dr.Shoffner's clinic in Atlanta.Where are you from and who sees your

> child?Talk to you soon, and I hope this info helps!

>

> >

> >Reply-To: Mitoonelist

> >To: " 'Mitoonelist' " <Mitoonelist>

> >Subject: RE: Jonah

> >Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 23:58:55 -0500

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> >

> >Please share Jonah's diagnosis with me. We have been evaluating carnitine

> >carrying formula for our Complex-3 deficient child but haven't begun yet.

> >Any details on diagnosis and results of treatment you could share?

> >

> >Thx - Hairston

> >

> > > Jonah

> > > >Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:01:28 -0400

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >Hi ,

> > > >

> > > >I am so happy to hear that Jonah is doing better and gaining weight.

> >What

> > > >kinds of changes have you made to his treatment that have had this

> > > >wonderful change? By the way, how are you doing? You have had a rough

> >go

> > >

> > > >of

> > > >it in the last few months with all of his setbacks. I hope things are

> > > >getting easier for you as well. Take care and good to hear from you

> > > again.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >---------------------------

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In a message dated 8/17/99 11:23:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

houllion@... writes:

<<

From what you wrote, it sounds like this would be a good formula for me

to check into. I looked up Norvartis on the web and it looked

interesting. How did you get the Vivonex? Is it through a prescription

or can you just order it? My son has an undiagnosed presumed mito

disorder and I wouldn't mind trying it. Can you give me any add'l info?

Thanks - Gail >>

Gail:

Clayton used to be on Vivonex Pediatric. I have several boxes left of that

and Neocate 1+ and I will gladly send you some samples for free (or anyone

else). Clayton is now on Elecare (same as Neocate and Vivonex - amino acid

formula made by Ross).

Love,

Sharon

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In a message dated 8/17/99 11:23:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

houllion@... writes:

<<

From what you wrote, it sounds like this would be a good formula for me

to check into. I looked up Norvartis on the web and it looked

interesting. How did you get the Vivonex? Is it through a prescription

or can you just order it? My son has an undiagnosed presumed mito

disorder and I wouldn't mind trying it. Can you give me any add'l info?

Thanks - Gail >>

Gail:

Clayton used to be on Vivonex Pediatric. I have several boxes left of that

and Neocate 1+ and I will gladly send you some samples for free (or anyone

else). Clayton is now on Elecare (same as Neocate and Vivonex - amino acid

formula made by Ross).

Love,

Sharon

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hi, well I live in Canada,so things may be different, but I do believe it is

a formula you need a prescription for, unless you have a children's hospital

nearby that has a specialized shop for nutritional needs for kids.We do here

in Toronto.If you child is not on a gtube than make sure to get the flavour

packets.Go to your usual pharmacy and tell them about the formula so they

can order it in for you and then as k your doc for a 1 month trial Rx.It

truly is a miracle formula.It has totally transformed Jonah.I wonder if all

the parents with mito kids on TPN know about this because a gtube or oral

feeds are obviously much safer than tpn and they can be fed at home!

>

>Reply-To: Mitoonelist

>To: Mitoonelist

>Subject: Re: Jonah

>Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:32:15 -0400

>

>

>

> -

>

>From what you wrote, it sounds like this would be a good formula for me

>to check into. I looked up Norvartis on the web and it looked

>interesting. How did you get the Vivonex? Is it through a prescription

>or can you just order it? My son has an undiagnosed presumed mito

>disorder and I wouldn't mind trying it. Can you give me any add'l info?

>Thanks - Gail

>

> .L. wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Jonah has complex one and a primary carnitine deficiency.He was

>diagnosed

> > with two muscle biopsies and a skin biopsy.He responded to carnitine

>quite

> > drastically, and continues to do so.The real miracle worker for him

>though

> > has been this new formula he has been put on.It is incredible.It is

>called

> > Vivonex Pediatric and is manufactured by Novartis Nutrition.It says on

>the

> > package that it is an elemental(100% free amino acids)diet for children

>1-9

> > yrs old ansd is an effective alternative to TPN.It is used for stressed,

> > catabolic children with gastrointestinal impairment who need a feeding

>that

> > permits maximum absorbtion with minimal digestion.My son is g-tube fed

>but

> > there are flavour packets that can be mixed into it for an oral

>feeder.This

> > is the only formula that has worked for him.He takes it in conjuction

>with

> > carnitine at 2 mg, 6 times per day, iron,cisapride and beclafen(muscle

> > relaxant).He is much more stable, has acquired some muscle mass and is

> > finally, at two years getting teeth.The right nutrition is doing this

>for

> > him.We still need to see a mito specialist and are trying to get into

> > Dr.Shoffner's clinic in Atlanta.Where are you from and who sees your

> > child?Talk to you soon, and I hope this info helps!

> >

> > >

> > >Reply-To: Mitoonelist

> > >To: " 'Mitoonelist' " <Mitoonelist>

> > >Subject: RE: Jonah

> > >Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 23:58:55 -0500

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > >

> > >Please share Jonah's diagnosis with me. We have been evaluating

>carnitine

> > >carrying formula for our Complex-3 deficient child but haven't begun

>yet.

> > >Any details on diagnosis and results of treatment you could share?

> > >

> > >Thx - Hairston

> > >

> > > > Jonah

> > > > >Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:01:28 -0400

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >Hi ,

> > > > >

> > > > >I am so happy to hear that Jonah is doing better and gaining

>weight.

> > >What

> > > > >kinds of changes have you made to his treatment that have had this

> > > > >wonderful change? By the way, how are you doing? You have had a

>rough

> > >go

> > > >

> > > > >of

> > > > >it in the last few months with all of his setbacks. I hope things

>are

> > > > >getting easier for you as well. Take care and good to hear from you

> > > > again.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >---------------------------

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Thanks - I'll ask Dr. Cohen when we see him in Oct. Gail

.L. wrote:

>

>

>

> hi, well I live in Canada,so things may be different, but I do believe it is

> a formula you need a prescription for, unless you have a children's hospital

> nearby that has a specialized shop for nutritional needs for kids.We do here

> in Toronto.If you child is not on a gtube than make sure to get the flavour

> packets.Go to your usual pharmacy and tell them about the formula so they

> can order it in for you and then as k your doc for a 1 month trial Rx.It

> truly is a miracle formula.It has totally transformed Jonah.I wonder if all

> the parents with mito kids on TPN know about this because a gtube or oral

> feeds are obviously much safer than tpn and they can be fed at home!

>

> >

> >Reply-To: Mitoonelist

> >To: Mitoonelist

> >Subject: Re: Jonah

> >Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:32:15 -0400

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> >

> >From what you wrote, it sounds like this would be a good formula for me

> >to check into. I looked up Norvartis on the web and it looked

> >interesting. How did you get the Vivonex? Is it through a prescription

> >or can you just order it? My son has an undiagnosed presumed mito

> >disorder and I wouldn't mind trying it. Can you give me any add'l info?

> >Thanks - Gail

> >

> > .L. wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Jonah has complex one and a primary carnitine deficiency.He was

> >diagnosed

> > > with two muscle biopsies and a skin biopsy.He responded to carnitine

> >quite

> > > drastically, and continues to do so.The real miracle worker for him

> >though

> > > has been this new formula he has been put on.It is incredible.It is

> >called

> > > Vivonex Pediatric and is manufactured by Novartis Nutrition.It says on

> >the

> > > package that it is an elemental(100% free amino acids)diet for children

> >1-9

> > > yrs old ansd is an effective alternative to TPN.It is used for stressed,

> > > catabolic children with gastrointestinal impairment who need a feeding

> >that

> > > permits maximum absorbtion with minimal digestion.My son is g-tube fed

> >but

> > > there are flavour packets that can be mixed into it for an oral

> >feeder.This

> > > is the only formula that has worked for him.He takes it in conjuction

> >with

> > > carnitine at 2 mg, 6 times per day, iron,cisapride and beclafen(muscle

> > > relaxant).He is much more stable, has acquired some muscle mass and is

> > > finally, at two years getting teeth.The right nutrition is doing this

> >for

> > > him.We still need to see a mito specialist and are trying to get into

> > > Dr.Shoffner's clinic in Atlanta.Where are you from and who sees your

> > > child?Talk to you soon, and I hope this info helps!

> > >

> > > >

> > > >Reply-To: Mitoonelist

> > > >To: " 'Mitoonelist' " <Mitoonelist>

> > > >Subject: RE: Jonah

> > > >Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 23:58:55 -0500

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > >

> > > >Please share Jonah's diagnosis with me. We have been evaluating

> >carnitine

> > > >carrying formula for our Complex-3 deficient child but haven't begun

> >yet.

> > > >Any details on diagnosis and results of treatment you could share?

> > > >

> > > >Thx - Hairston

> > > >

> > > > > Jonah

> > > > > >Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:01:28 -0400

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Hi ,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >I am so happy to hear that Jonah is doing better and gaining

> >weight.

> > > >What

> > > > > >kinds of changes have you made to his treatment that have had this

> > > > > >wonderful change? By the way, how are you doing? You have had a

> >rough

> > > >go

> > > > >

> > > > > >of

> > > > > >it in the last few months with all of his setbacks. I hope things

> >are

> > > > > >getting easier for you as well. Take care and good to hear from you

> > > > > again.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >---------------------------

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Thanks - I'll ask Dr. Cohen when we see him in Oct. Gail

.L. wrote:

>

>

>

> hi, well I live in Canada,so things may be different, but I do believe it is

> a formula you need a prescription for, unless you have a children's hospital

> nearby that has a specialized shop for nutritional needs for kids.We do here

> in Toronto.If you child is not on a gtube than make sure to get the flavour

> packets.Go to your usual pharmacy and tell them about the formula so they

> can order it in for you and then as k your doc for a 1 month trial Rx.It

> truly is a miracle formula.It has totally transformed Jonah.I wonder if all

> the parents with mito kids on TPN know about this because a gtube or oral

> feeds are obviously much safer than tpn and they can be fed at home!

>

> >

> >Reply-To: Mitoonelist

> >To: Mitoonelist

> >Subject: Re: Jonah

> >Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:32:15 -0400

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> >

> >From what you wrote, it sounds like this would be a good formula for me

> >to check into. I looked up Norvartis on the web and it looked

> >interesting. How did you get the Vivonex? Is it through a prescription

> >or can you just order it? My son has an undiagnosed presumed mito

> >disorder and I wouldn't mind trying it. Can you give me any add'l info?

> >Thanks - Gail

> >

> > .L. wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Jonah has complex one and a primary carnitine deficiency.He was

> >diagnosed

> > > with two muscle biopsies and a skin biopsy.He responded to carnitine

> >quite

> > > drastically, and continues to do so.The real miracle worker for him

> >though

> > > has been this new formula he has been put on.It is incredible.It is

> >called

> > > Vivonex Pediatric and is manufactured by Novartis Nutrition.It says on

> >the

> > > package that it is an elemental(100% free amino acids)diet for children

> >1-9

> > > yrs old ansd is an effective alternative to TPN.It is used for stressed,

> > > catabolic children with gastrointestinal impairment who need a feeding

> >that

> > > permits maximum absorbtion with minimal digestion.My son is g-tube fed

> >but

> > > there are flavour packets that can be mixed into it for an oral

> >feeder.This

> > > is the only formula that has worked for him.He takes it in conjuction

> >with

> > > carnitine at 2 mg, 6 times per day, iron,cisapride and beclafen(muscle

> > > relaxant).He is much more stable, has acquired some muscle mass and is

> > > finally, at two years getting teeth.The right nutrition is doing this

> >for

> > > him.We still need to see a mito specialist and are trying to get into

> > > Dr.Shoffner's clinic in Atlanta.Where are you from and who sees your

> > > child?Talk to you soon, and I hope this info helps!

> > >

> > > >

> > > >Reply-To: Mitoonelist

> > > >To: " 'Mitoonelist' " <Mitoonelist>

> > > >Subject: RE: Jonah

> > > >Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 23:58:55 -0500

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > >

> > > >Please share Jonah's diagnosis with me. We have been evaluating

> >carnitine

> > > >carrying formula for our Complex-3 deficient child but haven't begun

> >yet.

> > > >Any details on diagnosis and results of treatment you could share?

> > > >

> > > >Thx - Hairston

> > > >

> > > > > Jonah

> > > > > >Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:01:28 -0400

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Hi ,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >I am so happy to hear that Jonah is doing better and gaining

> >weight.

> > > >What

> > > > > >kinds of changes have you made to his treatment that have had this

> > > > > >wonderful change? By the way, how are you doing? You have had a

> >rough

> > > >go

> > > > >

> > > > > >of

> > > > > >it in the last few months with all of his setbacks. I hope things

> >are

> > > > > >getting easier for you as well. Take care and good to hear from you

> > > > > again.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >---------------------------

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what do you mean!!!Y ou'll have to clarify for me!Thanks

>

>Reply-To: Mitoonelist

>To: <Mitoonelist>

>Subject: Re: Jonah

>Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 02:24:37 -0700

>

>

>

>try?

>

> Jonah

> >> > > > > >Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:01:28 -0400

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > >Hi ,

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > >I am so happy to hear that Jonah is doing better and gaining

> >> >weight.

> >> > > >What

> >> > > > > >kinds of changes have you made to his treatment that have had

>this

> >> > > > > >wonderful change? By the way, how are you doing? You have had

>a

> >> >rough

> >> > > >go

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > >of

> >> > > > > >it in the last few months with all of his setbacks. I hope

>things

> >> >are

> >> > > > > >getting easier for you as well. Take care and good to hear

>from

>you

> >> > > > > again.

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > >---------------------------

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what do you mean!!!Y ou'll have to clarify for me!Thanks

>

>Reply-To: Mitoonelist

>To: <Mitoonelist>

>Subject: Re: Jonah

>Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 02:24:37 -0700

>

>

>

>try?

>

> Jonah

> >> > > > > >Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:01:28 -0400

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > >Hi ,

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > >I am so happy to hear that Jonah is doing better and gaining

> >> >weight.

> >> > > >What

> >> > > > > >kinds of changes have you made to his treatment that have had

>this

> >> > > > > >wonderful change? By the way, how are you doing? You have had

>a

> >> >rough

> >> > > >go

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > >of

> >> > > > > >it in the last few months with all of his setbacks. I hope

>things

> >> >are

> >> > > > > >getting easier for you as well. Take care and good to hear

>from

>you

> >> > > > > again.

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > >---------------------------

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I asked Dr. Cohen about the Vivonex and he said that he had never heard

of it, but that perhaps your son was on it due to liver problems.. Is

that the case? Would you mind letting me know what is in it? Thanks -

Gail

wrote:

>

>

>

> I'm sorry , I made a note to myself and meant to put it in my draft

> folder so I wouldn't forget to reread all of this stuff about this formula

> and think if we should try it. Then I accidently hit the send button

> instead.

> Sorry.

>

> Re: Jonah

>

> ---------------------------

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I asked Dr. Cohen about the Vivonex and he said that he had never heard

of it, but that perhaps your son was on it due to liver problems.. Is

that the case? Would you mind letting me know what is in it? Thanks -

Gail

wrote:

>

>

>

> I'm sorry , I made a note to myself and meant to put it in my draft

> folder so I wouldn't forget to reread all of this stuff about this formula

> and think if we should try it. Then I accidently hit the send button

> instead.

> Sorry.

>

> Re: Jonah

>

> ---------------------------

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I asked Dr. Cohen about the Vivonex and he said that he had never heard

of it, but that perhaps your son was on it due to liver problems.. Is

that the case? Would you mind letting me know what is in it? Thanks -

Gail

wrote:

>

>

>

> I'm sorry , I made a note to myself and meant to put it in my draft

> folder so I wouldn't forget to reread all of this stuff about this formula

> and think if we should try it. Then I accidently hit the send button

> instead.

> Sorry.

>

> Re: Jonah

>

> ---------------------------

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Hi Gail,no Jonah does not have liver problems,in fact the idea is to use

yhis formula as a replacement for Total Parenteral Feedings,so that children

that are nutritionally compromised and have trouble thriving on standard

pre-digested formulas can try this instead.I will give you a rundown on

it....an elemental 100 % free amino acid diet for children ages 1-9.It's a

high-essential to non-essential amino acid ratio with enhanced glutamine

content and optimal quality of protien sparing carbohydrate make it

especially useful in stressed, catabolic children,which is true for a lot of

mito kids.This diet will further benefit those with gastrointestinal

impairment for a feeding that permits maximal absorbtion with minimal

digestion.(all this is off the box).It provides 0.8 cal per ml or 200 cal

per packet.Also 12% protein.63% carbo, and 25 % fat.Have you tried

contacting novartis?If you email me your info, (address and what not) I will

call them for you, as they are based in the same Canadian province that I

live in and I can get some printed info for you and mail it off.Just let me

know!!!!Hope this helps!

>

>Reply-To: Mitoonelist

>To: Mitoonelist

>Subject: Re: Jonah

>Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:40:11 -0400

>

>

>

> -

>

>I asked Dr. Cohen about the Vivonex and he said that he had never heard

>of it, but that perhaps your son was on it due to liver problems.. Is

>that the case? Would you mind letting me know what is in it? Thanks -

>Gail

>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > I'm sorry , I made a note to myself and meant to put it in my

>draft

> > folder so I wouldn't forget to reread all of this stuff about this

>formula

> > and think if we should try it. Then I accidently hit the send button

> > instead.

> > Sorry.

> >

> > Re: Jonah

> >

> > ---------------------------

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