Guest guest Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 Digna, The Food Police..that's what they call me too! I have family members who always look at what I eat and comment. I am in better shape than most of them but still they judge my eating habits.  At work no one dares to comment on my lunch (which is usualy yogurt and fruit or vegetables and a grain and potato chips for dessert). The 40lb overweight Social Worker who brings her 'healthy' lunch, the anorexic Activities Director and the very chubby Pharmacist (who tells us she is on weight watchers and I won't scare you with her lunch), we all eat lunch together. I have no health problems and love to eat. Go to the gym, walk instead of driving etc...and life is good. Madalyn ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Sun, October 3, 2010 5:37:12 PM Subject: Re: velveeta?  : I definitely didn't mean you are boring, nor your message since I don't know you or have every had a conversation with you. I think the discussion evolved, like they often do, from a criticism of using Velveeta in poppers to delivering our message in an appetizing, attractive and fun way rather that all the adjectives you quote me as saying. Even at my work people think I'm the food police, and report their eating to me during the meetings when lunch is served. " I didn't take too many carbs, I'll skip dessert, I'll only eat the salad and nibble on a piece of fruit, I didn't have breakfast so I could have lunch " , then their eyes open wide when they see what I have on my plate. Some even comment on it, thinking I appreciate being critizised for eating the food that's offered. What they don't take note of is the things I don't put on the plate, since I do it quietly. I hate being considered the food police and never harp at others about what they can't and shouldn't eat. You seem pretty much the same. I still plan to stock Velveeta the original in the yellow box for the emergency food supply, and figure out what to do with it twice a year when we have to rotate it into our regular stock and replace it with new product. Cheese sauce for the fortified foods residents is my only idea right now. I love fresh foods too and am fortunate enough to have a husband and g/son who are like me, avid gardeners. This year we planted 36 tomato varieties and gorged on tomatoes for breakfast, lunch and dinner. I also made fresh sauce for pasta and a killer tomato bisque and cream of tomato soup - yep! real heavy cream in it too. Yum. My flabby belly and high cholesterol don't allow the ice cream I'd love to eat, nor the cheese. My eggs are home-grown and out of our own chickens, so I know how they're fed and eat them whenever I want one. That's as close as I get to hunting. My husband's father and second son hunted for all their meat in Louisiana, and also fished it out of lakes and rivers every year. That was their mainstay, and his mother prepared it really well. So I'm sure Jackie is enjoying delicious game too. Digna velveeta? Wow- Boringly nutritious, bland, preachy, and stale are the exact opposite of what I stand for and promote! That was the polar opposite of the point I was making. I'm sorry if I was unclear. In fact, anyone who knows me knows that I LOVE food, eating, flavor, cooking, and fresh foods! Here we eat our treats for sure, and also lots of fresh butter, just-harvested local fruits and vegetables, whole, fresh milk, yogurt, cheese, ice cream, farm fresh eggs, honey, and baked goods made from all those delicious ingredients. (and yes, my kids even eat candy, too) I am the " renegade " dietitian who spends a lot of time undoing the low-cal, low-fat, low salt, processed, fake, " diet " food advice people have gotten from other RD's and encourages people to eat REAL FOOD, real fats, real salt, real sweeteners, and savor it. So a fat-phobe and fun food hater I am definitely not. The notion that not using processed foods and/or eating healthy makes life bland and boring and flavorless is a huge misconception that the public has, and I'm sorry to hear that some nutrition professionals have similar feelings. As an RD, I love to think about, talk about, and eat the amazingly flavorful, gorgeous variety of REAL FOODS out there (that just happen to be nutritious, too ! I personally would be embarrassed to use my RD credential and stand up in front of a group and tell them to microwave some processed " cheez " and pour it on corn chips (and presumably be paid to do so.) Anyone can google a processed food recipe and make it. How does that take a " nutrition expert " ? The whole point of an RD, I assumed, was to make food fun, delicious, and creative, that also happens to be healthy. Jackie- I think it's awesome that you hunt your own meat and show such respect toward it. I teach my kids the same, and we visit the farms where our food comes from and they have a full understanding of what meat is and how it gets to our table. I am always encouraging others to do the same. I wish more people had an interest and understanding of what it takes to grow and transport food. Interesting historical notes as well. I love history, including food history, but also feel that just because something convenient or ingenious was invented, doesn't mean it's necessarily a great thing to be eating. Thanks for the interesting discussion, RD LD land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 Digna, The Food Police..that's what they call me too! I have family members who always look at what I eat and comment. I am in better shape than most of them but still they judge my eating habits.  At work no one dares to comment on my lunch (which is usualy yogurt and fruit or vegetables and a grain and potato chips for dessert). The 40lb overweight Social Worker who brings her 'healthy' lunch, the anorexic Activities Director and the very chubby Pharmacist (who tells us she is on weight watchers and I won't scare you with her lunch), we all eat lunch together. I have no health problems and love to eat. Go to the gym, walk instead of driving etc...and life is good. Madalyn ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Sun, October 3, 2010 5:37:12 PM Subject: Re: velveeta?  : I definitely didn't mean you are boring, nor your message since I don't know you or have every had a conversation with you. I think the discussion evolved, like they often do, from a criticism of using Velveeta in poppers to delivering our message in an appetizing, attractive and fun way rather that all the adjectives you quote me as saying. Even at my work people think I'm the food police, and report their eating to me during the meetings when lunch is served. " I didn't take too many carbs, I'll skip dessert, I'll only eat the salad and nibble on a piece of fruit, I didn't have breakfast so I could have lunch " , then their eyes open wide when they see what I have on my plate. Some even comment on it, thinking I appreciate being critizised for eating the food that's offered. What they don't take note of is the things I don't put on the plate, since I do it quietly. I hate being considered the food police and never harp at others about what they can't and shouldn't eat. You seem pretty much the same. I still plan to stock Velveeta the original in the yellow box for the emergency food supply, and figure out what to do with it twice a year when we have to rotate it into our regular stock and replace it with new product. Cheese sauce for the fortified foods residents is my only idea right now. I love fresh foods too and am fortunate enough to have a husband and g/son who are like me, avid gardeners. This year we planted 36 tomato varieties and gorged on tomatoes for breakfast, lunch and dinner. I also made fresh sauce for pasta and a killer tomato bisque and cream of tomato soup - yep! real heavy cream in it too. Yum. My flabby belly and high cholesterol don't allow the ice cream I'd love to eat, nor the cheese. My eggs are home-grown and out of our own chickens, so I know how they're fed and eat them whenever I want one. That's as close as I get to hunting. My husband's father and second son hunted for all their meat in Louisiana, and also fished it out of lakes and rivers every year. That was their mainstay, and his mother prepared it really well. So I'm sure Jackie is enjoying delicious game too. Digna velveeta? Wow- Boringly nutritious, bland, preachy, and stale are the exact opposite of what I stand for and promote! That was the polar opposite of the point I was making. I'm sorry if I was unclear. In fact, anyone who knows me knows that I LOVE food, eating, flavor, cooking, and fresh foods! Here we eat our treats for sure, and also lots of fresh butter, just-harvested local fruits and vegetables, whole, fresh milk, yogurt, cheese, ice cream, farm fresh eggs, honey, and baked goods made from all those delicious ingredients. (and yes, my kids even eat candy, too) I am the " renegade " dietitian who spends a lot of time undoing the low-cal, low-fat, low salt, processed, fake, " diet " food advice people have gotten from other RD's and encourages people to eat REAL FOOD, real fats, real salt, real sweeteners, and savor it. So a fat-phobe and fun food hater I am definitely not. The notion that not using processed foods and/or eating healthy makes life bland and boring and flavorless is a huge misconception that the public has, and I'm sorry to hear that some nutrition professionals have similar feelings. As an RD, I love to think about, talk about, and eat the amazingly flavorful, gorgeous variety of REAL FOODS out there (that just happen to be nutritious, too ! I personally would be embarrassed to use my RD credential and stand up in front of a group and tell them to microwave some processed " cheez " and pour it on corn chips (and presumably be paid to do so.) Anyone can google a processed food recipe and make it. How does that take a " nutrition expert " ? The whole point of an RD, I assumed, was to make food fun, delicious, and creative, that also happens to be healthy. Jackie- I think it's awesome that you hunt your own meat and show such respect toward it. I teach my kids the same, and we visit the farms where our food comes from and they have a full understanding of what meat is and how it gets to our table. I am always encouraging others to do the same. I wish more people had an interest and understanding of what it takes to grow and transport food. Interesting historical notes as well. I love history, including food history, but also feel that just because something convenient or ingenious was invented, doesn't mean it's necessarily a great thing to be eating. Thanks for the interesting discussion, RD LD land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 Digna, The Food Police..that's what they call me too! I have family members who always look at what I eat and comment. I am in better shape than most of them but still they judge my eating habits.  At work no one dares to comment on my lunch (which is usualy yogurt and fruit or vegetables and a grain and potato chips for dessert). The 40lb overweight Social Worker who brings her 'healthy' lunch, the anorexic Activities Director and the very chubby Pharmacist (who tells us she is on weight watchers and I won't scare you with her lunch), we all eat lunch together. I have no health problems and love to eat. Go to the gym, walk instead of driving etc...and life is good. Madalyn ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Sun, October 3, 2010 5:37:12 PM Subject: Re: velveeta?  : I definitely didn't mean you are boring, nor your message since I don't know you or have every had a conversation with you. I think the discussion evolved, like they often do, from a criticism of using Velveeta in poppers to delivering our message in an appetizing, attractive and fun way rather that all the adjectives you quote me as saying. Even at my work people think I'm the food police, and report their eating to me during the meetings when lunch is served. " I didn't take too many carbs, I'll skip dessert, I'll only eat the salad and nibble on a piece of fruit, I didn't have breakfast so I could have lunch " , then their eyes open wide when they see what I have on my plate. Some even comment on it, thinking I appreciate being critizised for eating the food that's offered. What they don't take note of is the things I don't put on the plate, since I do it quietly. I hate being considered the food police and never harp at others about what they can't and shouldn't eat. You seem pretty much the same. I still plan to stock Velveeta the original in the yellow box for the emergency food supply, and figure out what to do with it twice a year when we have to rotate it into our regular stock and replace it with new product. Cheese sauce for the fortified foods residents is my only idea right now. I love fresh foods too and am fortunate enough to have a husband and g/son who are like me, avid gardeners. This year we planted 36 tomato varieties and gorged on tomatoes for breakfast, lunch and dinner. I also made fresh sauce for pasta and a killer tomato bisque and cream of tomato soup - yep! real heavy cream in it too. Yum. My flabby belly and high cholesterol don't allow the ice cream I'd love to eat, nor the cheese. My eggs are home-grown and out of our own chickens, so I know how they're fed and eat them whenever I want one. That's as close as I get to hunting. My husband's father and second son hunted for all their meat in Louisiana, and also fished it out of lakes and rivers every year. That was their mainstay, and his mother prepared it really well. So I'm sure Jackie is enjoying delicious game too. Digna velveeta? Wow- Boringly nutritious, bland, preachy, and stale are the exact opposite of what I stand for and promote! That was the polar opposite of the point I was making. I'm sorry if I was unclear. In fact, anyone who knows me knows that I LOVE food, eating, flavor, cooking, and fresh foods! Here we eat our treats for sure, and also lots of fresh butter, just-harvested local fruits and vegetables, whole, fresh milk, yogurt, cheese, ice cream, farm fresh eggs, honey, and baked goods made from all those delicious ingredients. (and yes, my kids even eat candy, too) I am the " renegade " dietitian who spends a lot of time undoing the low-cal, low-fat, low salt, processed, fake, " diet " food advice people have gotten from other RD's and encourages people to eat REAL FOOD, real fats, real salt, real sweeteners, and savor it. So a fat-phobe and fun food hater I am definitely not. The notion that not using processed foods and/or eating healthy makes life bland and boring and flavorless is a huge misconception that the public has, and I'm sorry to hear that some nutrition professionals have similar feelings. As an RD, I love to think about, talk about, and eat the amazingly flavorful, gorgeous variety of REAL FOODS out there (that just happen to be nutritious, too ! I personally would be embarrassed to use my RD credential and stand up in front of a group and tell them to microwave some processed " cheez " and pour it on corn chips (and presumably be paid to do so.) Anyone can google a processed food recipe and make it. How does that take a " nutrition expert " ? The whole point of an RD, I assumed, was to make food fun, delicious, and creative, that also happens to be healthy. Jackie- I think it's awesome that you hunt your own meat and show such respect toward it. I teach my kids the same, and we visit the farms where our food comes from and they have a full understanding of what meat is and how it gets to our table. I am always encouraging others to do the same. I wish more people had an interest and understanding of what it takes to grow and transport food. Interesting historical notes as well. I love history, including food history, but also feel that just because something convenient or ingenious was invented, doesn't mean it's necessarily a great thing to be eating. Thanks for the interesting discussion, RD LD land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 If there is one thing I have learned, is that if a client/patient went to different Dietitians, they would get different advice...just like any other Health Professional. On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Madalyn Friedberg wrote: > > > Digna, > > The Food Police..that's what they call me too! > > I have family members who always look at what I eat and comment. I am in > better shape than most of them but still they judge my eating habits. > > At work no one dares to comment on my lunch (which is usualy yogurt and > fruit > or vegetables and a grain and potato chips for dessert). The 40lb > overweight > Social Worker who brings her 'healthy' lunch, the anorexic Activities > Director > and the very chubby Pharmacist (who tells us she is on weight watchers and > I > won't scare you with her lunch), we all eat lunch together. I have no > health > problems and love to eat. > > Go to the gym, walk instead of driving etc...and life is good. > > Madalyn > > ________________________________ > From: Digna Cassens <dignacassens@...<dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> > > > > To: rd-usa <rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sun, October 3, 2010 5:37:12 PM > Subject: Re: velveeta? > > > > : > > I definitely didn't mean you are boring, nor your message since I don't > know you > or have every had a conversation with you. I think the discussion evolved, > like > they often do, from a criticism of using Velveeta in poppers to delivering > our > message in an appetizing, attractive and fun way rather that all the > adjectives > you quote me as saying. Even at my work people think I'm the food police, > and > report their eating to me during the meetings when lunch is served. " I > didn't > take too many carbs, I'll skip dessert, I'll only eat the salad and nibble > on a > piece of fruit, I didn't have breakfast so I could have lunch " , then their > eyes > open wide when they see what I have on my plate. Some even comment on it, > thinking I appreciate being critizised for eating the food that's offered. > What > they don't take note of is the things I don't put on the plate, since I do > it > quietly. I hate being considered the food police and never harp at others > about > what they can't and shouldn't eat. You seem pretty much the same. > > I still plan to stock Velveeta the original in the yellow box for the > emergency > food supply, and figure out what to do with it twice a year when we have to > > rotate it into our regular stock and replace it with new product. Cheese > sauce > for the fortified foods residents is my only idea right now. > > I love fresh foods too and am fortunate enough to have a husband and g/son > who > are like me, avid gardeners. This year we planted 36 tomato varieties and > gorged > on tomatoes for breakfast, lunch and dinner. I also made fresh sauce for > pasta > and a killer tomato bisque and cream of tomato soup - yep! real heavy cream > in > it too. Yum. > > My flabby belly and high cholesterol don't allow the ice cream I'd love to > eat, > nor the cheese. My eggs are home-grown and out of our own chickens, so I > know > how they're fed and eat them whenever I want one. That's as close as I get > to > hunting. My husband's father and second son hunted for all their meat in > Louisiana, and also fished it out of lakes and rivers every year. That was > their > mainstay, and his mother prepared it really well. So I'm sure Jackie is > enjoying > delicious game too. > > Digna > > velveeta? > > Wow- Boringly nutritious, bland, preachy, and stale are the exact opposite > of what I stand for and promote! That was the polar opposite of the point I > was making. I'm sorry if I was unclear. In fact, anyone who knows me knows > that I LOVE food, eating, flavor, cooking, and fresh foods! Here we eat our > treats for sure, and also lots of fresh butter, just-harvested local fruits > and vegetables, whole, fresh milk, yogurt, cheese, ice cream, farm fresh > eggs, honey, and baked goods made from all those delicious ingredients. > (and yes, my kids even eat candy, too) I am the " renegade " dietitian who > spends a lot of time undoing the low-cal, low-fat, low salt, processed, > fake, " diet " food advice people have gotten from other RD's and encourages > people to eat REAL FOOD, real fats, real salt, real sweeteners, and savor > it. So a fat-phobe and fun food hater I am definitely not. > > The notion that not using processed foods and/or eating healthy makes life > bland and boring and flavorless is a huge misconception that the public > has, > and I'm sorry to hear that some nutrition professionals have similar > feelings. As an RD, I love to think about, talk about, and eat the > amazingly flavorful, gorgeous variety of REAL FOODS out there (that just > happen to be nutritious, too ! > > I personally would be embarrassed to use my RD credential and stand up in > front of a group and tell them to microwave some processed " cheez " and pour > it on corn chips (and presumably be paid to do so.) Anyone can google a > processed food recipe and make it. How does that take a " nutrition > expert " ? The whole point of an RD, I assumed, was to make food fun, > delicious, and creative, that also happens to be healthy. > > Jackie- I think it's awesome that you hunt your own meat and show such > respect toward it. I teach my kids the same, and we visit the farms where > our food comes from and they have a full understanding of what meat is and > how it gets to our table. I am always encouraging others to do the same. I > wish more people had an interest and understanding of what it takes to grow > and transport food. > > Interesting historical notes as well. I love history, including food > history, but also feel that just because something convenient or ingenious > was invented, doesn't mean it's necessarily a great thing to be eating. > > Thanks for the interesting discussion, > > RD LD > land > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 As with most posts I think we get off on tangents :-) All I know is growing up (I am 55 years old) an obese child was VERY uncommon - and even overweight rare. I think exercise plays a big part too... > > > , I'm not sure if this article is in response to my post, but thanks > for posting it. I agree, child nutrition is in a sad state of affairs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't consider poppers to be anything but a great treat with beer on > > > special parties. Why does everything have to be so boringly > nutritious??? > > > That's what's wrong here. Nobody wants to hear the righteous words we > have > > > to offer. Even I don't want to. And guess what? for my emergency stock > I am > > > planning to stock the good old velveeta. It's 5 gm pro/oz slice, shelf > life > > > of 6 months, and can be used for all textures ---- and the residents > will > > > eat it! > > > > > > Wake up! this is a hedonistic society we're living in, and if we make > > > everything bland and vanilla who's going to listen? and who's going to > > > follow? The Devil had a good marketing idea, let's steal it and gain > more > > > followers. > > > > > > Digna > > > > > > > > > > velveeta? > > > > > > I had to read this three times to make sure I was reading right. So > RD's > > > are now encouraging and teaching others to use " processed cheese > food " ?? I > > > know this is for tailgating soldiers, and supposed to be party food, > but > > > seriously...there has to be something more nutritious RD's can offer > than > > > microwaving some velveeta in canned milk and pouring it over corn > chips. > > > > > > Scratching my head on this one, > > > > > > , RD LD > > > land > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 As with most posts I think we get off on tangents :-) All I know is growing up (I am 55 years old) an obese child was VERY uncommon - and even overweight rare. I think exercise plays a big part too... > > > , I'm not sure if this article is in response to my post, but thanks > for posting it. I agree, child nutrition is in a sad state of affairs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't consider poppers to be anything but a great treat with beer on > > > special parties. Why does everything have to be so boringly > nutritious??? > > > That's what's wrong here. Nobody wants to hear the righteous words we > have > > > to offer. Even I don't want to. And guess what? for my emergency stock > I am > > > planning to stock the good old velveeta. It's 5 gm pro/oz slice, shelf > life > > > of 6 months, and can be used for all textures ---- and the residents > will > > > eat it! > > > > > > Wake up! this is a hedonistic society we're living in, and if we make > > > everything bland and vanilla who's going to listen? and who's going to > > > follow? The Devil had a good marketing idea, let's steal it and gain > more > > > followers. > > > > > > Digna > > > > > > > > > > velveeta? > > > > > > I had to read this three times to make sure I was reading right. So > RD's > > > are now encouraging and teaching others to use " processed cheese > food " ?? I > > > know this is for tailgating soldiers, and supposed to be party food, > but > > > seriously...there has to be something more nutritious RD's can offer > than > > > microwaving some velveeta in canned milk and pouring it over corn > chips. > > > > > > Scratching my head on this one, > > > > > > , RD LD > > > land > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 As with most posts I think we get off on tangents :-) All I know is growing up (I am 55 years old) an obese child was VERY uncommon - and even overweight rare. I think exercise plays a big part too... > > > , I'm not sure if this article is in response to my post, but thanks > for posting it. I agree, child nutrition is in a sad state of affairs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't consider poppers to be anything but a great treat with beer on > > > special parties. Why does everything have to be so boringly > nutritious??? > > > That's what's wrong here. Nobody wants to hear the righteous words we > have > > > to offer. Even I don't want to. And guess what? for my emergency stock > I am > > > planning to stock the good old velveeta. It's 5 gm pro/oz slice, shelf > life > > > of 6 months, and can be used for all textures ---- and the residents > will > > > eat it! > > > > > > Wake up! this is a hedonistic society we're living in, and if we make > > > everything bland and vanilla who's going to listen? and who's going to > > > follow? The Devil had a good marketing idea, let's steal it and gain > more > > > followers. > > > > > > Digna > > > > > > > > > > velveeta? > > > > > > I had to read this three times to make sure I was reading right. So > RD's > > > are now encouraging and teaching others to use " processed cheese > food " ?? I > > > know this is for tailgating soldiers, and supposed to be party food, > but > > > seriously...there has to be something more nutritious RD's can offer > than > > > microwaving some velveeta in canned milk and pouring it over corn > chips. > > > > > > Scratching my head on this one, > > > > > > , RD LD > > > land > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 That being said, I just poured myself my nightly glass of wine. Cheers to you! Have a great week. Digna velveeta? Wow- Boringly nutritious, bland, preachy, and stale are the exact opposite of what I stand for and promote! That was the polar opposite of the point I was making. I'm sorry if I was unclear. In fact, anyone who knows me knows that I LOVE food, eating, flavor, cooking, and fresh foods! Here we eat our treats for sure, and also lots of fresh butter, just-harvested local fruits and vegetables, whole, fresh milk, yogurt, cheese, ice cream, farm fresh eggs, honey, and baked goods made from all those delicious ingredients. (and yes, my kids even eat candy, too) I am the " renegade " dietitian who spends a lot of time undoing the low-cal, low-fat, low salt, processed, fake, " diet " food advice people have gotten from other RD's and encourages people to eat REAL FOOD, real fats, real salt, real sweeteners, and savor it. So a fat-phobe and fun food hater I am definitely not. The notion that not using processed foods and/or eating healthy makes life bland and boring and flavorless is a huge misconception that the public has, and I'm sorry to hear that some nutrition professionals have similar feelings. As an RD, I love to think about, talk about, and eat the amazingly flavorful, gorgeous variety of REAL FOODS out there (that just happen to be nutritious, too ! I personally would be embarrassed to use my RD credential and stand up in front of a group and tell them to microwave some processed " cheez " and pour it on corn chips (and presumably be paid to do so.) Anyone can google a processed food recipe and make it. How does that take a " nutrition expert " ? The whole point of an RD, I assumed, was to make food fun, delicious, and creative, that also happens to be healthy. Jackie- I think it's awesome that you hunt your own meat and show such respect toward it. I teach my kids the same, and we visit the farms where our food comes from and they have a full understanding of what meat is and how it gets to our table. I am always encouraging others to do the same. I wish more people had an interest and understanding of what it takes to grow and transport food. Interesting historical notes as well. I love history, including food history, but also feel that just because something convenient or ingenious was invented, doesn't mean it's necessarily a great thing to be eating. Thanks for the interesting discussion, RD LD land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 That being said, I just poured myself my nightly glass of wine. Cheers to you! Have a great week. Digna velveeta? Wow- Boringly nutritious, bland, preachy, and stale are the exact opposite of what I stand for and promote! That was the polar opposite of the point I was making. I'm sorry if I was unclear. In fact, anyone who knows me knows that I LOVE food, eating, flavor, cooking, and fresh foods! Here we eat our treats for sure, and also lots of fresh butter, just-harvested local fruits and vegetables, whole, fresh milk, yogurt, cheese, ice cream, farm fresh eggs, honey, and baked goods made from all those delicious ingredients. (and yes, my kids even eat candy, too) I am the " renegade " dietitian who spends a lot of time undoing the low-cal, low-fat, low salt, processed, fake, " diet " food advice people have gotten from other RD's and encourages people to eat REAL FOOD, real fats, real salt, real sweeteners, and savor it. So a fat-phobe and fun food hater I am definitely not. The notion that not using processed foods and/or eating healthy makes life bland and boring and flavorless is a huge misconception that the public has, and I'm sorry to hear that some nutrition professionals have similar feelings. As an RD, I love to think about, talk about, and eat the amazingly flavorful, gorgeous variety of REAL FOODS out there (that just happen to be nutritious, too ! I personally would be embarrassed to use my RD credential and stand up in front of a group and tell them to microwave some processed " cheez " and pour it on corn chips (and presumably be paid to do so.) Anyone can google a processed food recipe and make it. How does that take a " nutrition expert " ? The whole point of an RD, I assumed, was to make food fun, delicious, and creative, that also happens to be healthy. Jackie- I think it's awesome that you hunt your own meat and show such respect toward it. I teach my kids the same, and we visit the farms where our food comes from and they have a full understanding of what meat is and how it gets to our table. I am always encouraging others to do the same. I wish more people had an interest and understanding of what it takes to grow and transport food. Interesting historical notes as well. I love history, including food history, but also feel that just because something convenient or ingenious was invented, doesn't mean it's necessarily a great thing to be eating. Thanks for the interesting discussion, RD LD land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 That being said, I just poured myself my nightly glass of wine. Cheers to you! Have a great week. Digna velveeta? Wow- Boringly nutritious, bland, preachy, and stale are the exact opposite of what I stand for and promote! That was the polar opposite of the point I was making. I'm sorry if I was unclear. In fact, anyone who knows me knows that I LOVE food, eating, flavor, cooking, and fresh foods! Here we eat our treats for sure, and also lots of fresh butter, just-harvested local fruits and vegetables, whole, fresh milk, yogurt, cheese, ice cream, farm fresh eggs, honey, and baked goods made from all those delicious ingredients. (and yes, my kids even eat candy, too) I am the " renegade " dietitian who spends a lot of time undoing the low-cal, low-fat, low salt, processed, fake, " diet " food advice people have gotten from other RD's and encourages people to eat REAL FOOD, real fats, real salt, real sweeteners, and savor it. So a fat-phobe and fun food hater I am definitely not. The notion that not using processed foods and/or eating healthy makes life bland and boring and flavorless is a huge misconception that the public has, and I'm sorry to hear that some nutrition professionals have similar feelings. As an RD, I love to think about, talk about, and eat the amazingly flavorful, gorgeous variety of REAL FOODS out there (that just happen to be nutritious, too ! I personally would be embarrassed to use my RD credential and stand up in front of a group and tell them to microwave some processed " cheez " and pour it on corn chips (and presumably be paid to do so.) Anyone can google a processed food recipe and make it. How does that take a " nutrition expert " ? The whole point of an RD, I assumed, was to make food fun, delicious, and creative, that also happens to be healthy. Jackie- I think it's awesome that you hunt your own meat and show such respect toward it. I teach my kids the same, and we visit the farms where our food comes from and they have a full understanding of what meat is and how it gets to our table. I am always encouraging others to do the same. I wish more people had an interest and understanding of what it takes to grow and transport food. Interesting historical notes as well. I love history, including food history, but also feel that just because something convenient or ingenious was invented, doesn't mean it's necessarily a great thing to be eating. Thanks for the interesting discussion, RD LD land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 I think the reason I don't have a problem is bc God blessed me with my father's build - thin - and metabolism - faster than lightning. I'm still as hyperactive as I was at 12, maybe more as I have less time to waste. I have the fastest digestive system and defy all laws of digestion, bc I'm always hungry an hour after I eat. But, I also have the smallest stomach and half a sandwich fills me to capacity - for an hour. So I eat during the day, the whole day. I always skip breakfast bc I don't feel hungry right when I get up, but I get in the car w yogurt, string cheese 1 or 2 fruits, a HC egg, or cottage cheese, another cup of caffeinated coffee w 1/2 & 1/2, and eat during my long commute. Regardless of when I get there, I have to hit the almonds bag by 11 or won't make it to lunch time. Lunch is always almost the same, mostly from the office deli Trimana, either a salad or a soup & 1/2 sandwich, which take me about 2 hours to finish, with a little something saved for after 4 PM. I do make it home w/o more food, and my husband has dinner ready around 8 or 8:30, but I munch when I get home and have a glass of wine. Needless to say it takes me all day to be nourished and maintain my weight. I take no vit/min supplements, as pills stick in my throat and make me burp, and I keep forgetting them. I'm healthy. My cholesterol has been high since I was younger but nobody paid attention to it then (MDs I mean) and I've had HTN since I was about 40 but it's been controlled (now w meds too) w exercise and good food choices. If I don't crash my car again I may live to be 100. So much for the food police. I was eating a bag of potato chips one day after lunch and the company's CFO walked into my office, and he shouted " Digna!! YOU'RE A DIETITIAN! You eat chips? " I showed him the bag pointed at the word POTATO and informed me that potato is a root vegetable that kept the Irish from starving therefore they were in my food group. I also eat pork skins (chicharrones) and love it, but not often either. velveeta? Wow- Boringly nutritious, bland, preachy, and stale are the exact opposite of what I stand for and promote! That was the polar opposite of the point I was making. I'm sorry if I was unclear. In fact, anyone who knows me knows that I LOVE food, eating, flavor, cooking, and fresh foods! Here we eat our treats for sure, and also lots of fresh butter, just-harvested local fruits and vegetables, whole, fresh milk, yogurt, cheese, ice cream, farm fresh eggs, honey, and baked goods made from all those delicious ingredients. (and yes, my kids even eat candy, too) I am the " renegade " dietitian who spends a lot of time undoing the low-cal, low-fat, low salt, processed, fake, " diet " food advice people have gotten from other RD's and encourages people to eat REAL FOOD, real fats, real salt, real sweeteners, and savor it. So a fat-phobe and fun food hater I am definitely not. The notion that not using processed foods and/or eating healthy makes life bland and boring and flavorless is a huge misconception that the public has, and I'm sorry to hear that some nutrition professionals have similar feelings. As an RD, I love to think about, talk about, and eat the amazingly flavorful, gorgeous variety of REAL FOODS out there (that just happen to be nutritious, too ! I personally would be embarrassed to use my RD credential and stand up in front of a group and tell them to microwave some processed " cheez " and pour it on corn chips (and presumably be paid to do so.) Anyone can google a processed food recipe and make it. How does that take a " nutrition expert " ? The whole point of an RD, I assumed, was to make food fun, delicious, and creative, that also happens to be healthy. Jackie- I think it's awesome that you hunt your own meat and show such respect toward it. I teach my kids the same, and we visit the farms where our food comes from and they have a full understanding of what meat is and how it gets to our table. I am always encouraging others to do the same. I wish more people had an interest and understanding of what it takes to grow and transport food. Interesting historical notes as well. I love history, including food history, but also feel that just because something convenient or ingenious was invented, doesn't mean it's necessarily a great thing to be eating. Thanks for the interesting discussion, RD LD land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 I think the reason I don't have a problem is bc God blessed me with my father's build - thin - and metabolism - faster than lightning. I'm still as hyperactive as I was at 12, maybe more as I have less time to waste. I have the fastest digestive system and defy all laws of digestion, bc I'm always hungry an hour after I eat. But, I also have the smallest stomach and half a sandwich fills me to capacity - for an hour. So I eat during the day, the whole day. I always skip breakfast bc I don't feel hungry right when I get up, but I get in the car w yogurt, string cheese 1 or 2 fruits, a HC egg, or cottage cheese, another cup of caffeinated coffee w 1/2 & 1/2, and eat during my long commute. Regardless of when I get there, I have to hit the almonds bag by 11 or won't make it to lunch time. Lunch is always almost the same, mostly from the office deli Trimana, either a salad or a soup & 1/2 sandwich, which take me about 2 hours to finish, with a little something saved for after 4 PM. I do make it home w/o more food, and my husband has dinner ready around 8 or 8:30, but I munch when I get home and have a glass of wine. Needless to say it takes me all day to be nourished and maintain my weight. I take no vit/min supplements, as pills stick in my throat and make me burp, and I keep forgetting them. I'm healthy. My cholesterol has been high since I was younger but nobody paid attention to it then (MDs I mean) and I've had HTN since I was about 40 but it's been controlled (now w meds too) w exercise and good food choices. If I don't crash my car again I may live to be 100. So much for the food police. I was eating a bag of potato chips one day after lunch and the company's CFO walked into my office, and he shouted " Digna!! YOU'RE A DIETITIAN! You eat chips? " I showed him the bag pointed at the word POTATO and informed me that potato is a root vegetable that kept the Irish from starving therefore they were in my food group. I also eat pork skins (chicharrones) and love it, but not often either. velveeta? Wow- Boringly nutritious, bland, preachy, and stale are the exact opposite of what I stand for and promote! That was the polar opposite of the point I was making. I'm sorry if I was unclear. In fact, anyone who knows me knows that I LOVE food, eating, flavor, cooking, and fresh foods! Here we eat our treats for sure, and also lots of fresh butter, just-harvested local fruits and vegetables, whole, fresh milk, yogurt, cheese, ice cream, farm fresh eggs, honey, and baked goods made from all those delicious ingredients. (and yes, my kids even eat candy, too) I am the " renegade " dietitian who spends a lot of time undoing the low-cal, low-fat, low salt, processed, fake, " diet " food advice people have gotten from other RD's and encourages people to eat REAL FOOD, real fats, real salt, real sweeteners, and savor it. So a fat-phobe and fun food hater I am definitely not. The notion that not using processed foods and/or eating healthy makes life bland and boring and flavorless is a huge misconception that the public has, and I'm sorry to hear that some nutrition professionals have similar feelings. As an RD, I love to think about, talk about, and eat the amazingly flavorful, gorgeous variety of REAL FOODS out there (that just happen to be nutritious, too ! I personally would be embarrassed to use my RD credential and stand up in front of a group and tell them to microwave some processed " cheez " and pour it on corn chips (and presumably be paid to do so.) Anyone can google a processed food recipe and make it. How does that take a " nutrition expert " ? The whole point of an RD, I assumed, was to make food fun, delicious, and creative, that also happens to be healthy. Jackie- I think it's awesome that you hunt your own meat and show such respect toward it. I teach my kids the same, and we visit the farms where our food comes from and they have a full understanding of what meat is and how it gets to our table. I am always encouraging others to do the same. I wish more people had an interest and understanding of what it takes to grow and transport food. Interesting historical notes as well. I love history, including food history, but also feel that just because something convenient or ingenious was invented, doesn't mean it's necessarily a great thing to be eating. Thanks for the interesting discussion, RD LD land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 I think the reason I don't have a problem is bc God blessed me with my father's build - thin - and metabolism - faster than lightning. I'm still as hyperactive as I was at 12, maybe more as I have less time to waste. I have the fastest digestive system and defy all laws of digestion, bc I'm always hungry an hour after I eat. But, I also have the smallest stomach and half a sandwich fills me to capacity - for an hour. So I eat during the day, the whole day. I always skip breakfast bc I don't feel hungry right when I get up, but I get in the car w yogurt, string cheese 1 or 2 fruits, a HC egg, or cottage cheese, another cup of caffeinated coffee w 1/2 & 1/2, and eat during my long commute. Regardless of when I get there, I have to hit the almonds bag by 11 or won't make it to lunch time. Lunch is always almost the same, mostly from the office deli Trimana, either a salad or a soup & 1/2 sandwich, which take me about 2 hours to finish, with a little something saved for after 4 PM. I do make it home w/o more food, and my husband has dinner ready around 8 or 8:30, but I munch when I get home and have a glass of wine. Needless to say it takes me all day to be nourished and maintain my weight. I take no vit/min supplements, as pills stick in my throat and make me burp, and I keep forgetting them. I'm healthy. My cholesterol has been high since I was younger but nobody paid attention to it then (MDs I mean) and I've had HTN since I was about 40 but it's been controlled (now w meds too) w exercise and good food choices. If I don't crash my car again I may live to be 100. So much for the food police. I was eating a bag of potato chips one day after lunch and the company's CFO walked into my office, and he shouted " Digna!! YOU'RE A DIETITIAN! You eat chips? " I showed him the bag pointed at the word POTATO and informed me that potato is a root vegetable that kept the Irish from starving therefore they were in my food group. I also eat pork skins (chicharrones) and love it, but not often either. velveeta? Wow- Boringly nutritious, bland, preachy, and stale are the exact opposite of what I stand for and promote! That was the polar opposite of the point I was making. I'm sorry if I was unclear. In fact, anyone who knows me knows that I LOVE food, eating, flavor, cooking, and fresh foods! Here we eat our treats for sure, and also lots of fresh butter, just-harvested local fruits and vegetables, whole, fresh milk, yogurt, cheese, ice cream, farm fresh eggs, honey, and baked goods made from all those delicious ingredients. (and yes, my kids even eat candy, too) I am the " renegade " dietitian who spends a lot of time undoing the low-cal, low-fat, low salt, processed, fake, " diet " food advice people have gotten from other RD's and encourages people to eat REAL FOOD, real fats, real salt, real sweeteners, and savor it. So a fat-phobe and fun food hater I am definitely not. The notion that not using processed foods and/or eating healthy makes life bland and boring and flavorless is a huge misconception that the public has, and I'm sorry to hear that some nutrition professionals have similar feelings. As an RD, I love to think about, talk about, and eat the amazingly flavorful, gorgeous variety of REAL FOODS out there (that just happen to be nutritious, too ! I personally would be embarrassed to use my RD credential and stand up in front of a group and tell them to microwave some processed " cheez " and pour it on corn chips (and presumably be paid to do so.) Anyone can google a processed food recipe and make it. How does that take a " nutrition expert " ? The whole point of an RD, I assumed, was to make food fun, delicious, and creative, that also happens to be healthy. Jackie- I think it's awesome that you hunt your own meat and show such respect toward it. I teach my kids the same, and we visit the farms where our food comes from and they have a full understanding of what meat is and how it gets to our table. I am always encouraging others to do the same. I wish more people had an interest and understanding of what it takes to grow and transport food. Interesting historical notes as well. I love history, including food history, but also feel that just because something convenient or ingenious was invented, doesn't mean it's necessarily a great thing to be eating. Thanks for the interesting discussion, RD LD land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 Here I go again. What do you feed an animal to fatten it up for slauther, grain, corn in particular. Corn feed beef. Or as they do it in Japan beer another form of grain. So what do we encourage, high grain consumption. Before you say it they do not feed these animals processed " white " food. Now we after years of encouraging a grain based diet are reaping the results. Historically prior to the Black Plague most people ate a truly grain based diet with little or no meat or vegetables. Life was short fertility was low, survival to adulthood unlikely. After the Black Plague the diet of the general population improved. Meat became part of the diet and I am not talking the local cow. Vegetables entered into the general diet. You start to get really good recipes coming out of the times. It is not till the little ice age that food again becomes a general problem and the quality of the diet goes down. Poor nutrition in the cities became rampant and several revolutions took place. Sounds a little like this day and age. We are pushing vegetarianism now as the latest way to cure the problem. Great all those GMO corn and soy products. And don't think just because you avoid GMO foods that you are not eating GMO products, what do you think they fatten meat on in the stock yards. It is wonderful that you can purchase fresh fruits and vegetables. Gardens are great I got 12 seed potatoes out of my garden this year. But look around you in the store, see that gal with a cart with a few items in it mostly cheap foods from the " Inner Isles " she is not doing this for the fun of it. Food stamps allow for emergency levels of fruit and vegetable if you shop carefully, on sale, in the suburbs. Our cities are food deserts and we chide people for eating cheap food. You get more calories per dollar in the " Inner Isles " then on the 'Outer Edged " . Unless you have walked the walk you have no idea how depressing it is to walk down isle after isle and not be able to buy anything you can afford but cheap processed food. The landscape is not going to change anytime soon because the system won't allow it. It may take another Black Plague to set things right or a revolution. Unfortunately we are just compounding the problem with the direction we keep pushing. I bet everyone of those soldiers ate themselves sick with fresh fruit and vegetables before they went for the junk food as soon as they hit the states.. Jackie Chase RD Dillingham, AK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 Here I go again. What do you feed an animal to fatten it up for slauther, grain, corn in particular. Corn feed beef. Or as they do it in Japan beer another form of grain. So what do we encourage, high grain consumption. Before you say it they do not feed these animals processed " white " food. Now we after years of encouraging a grain based diet are reaping the results. Historically prior to the Black Plague most people ate a truly grain based diet with little or no meat or vegetables. Life was short fertility was low, survival to adulthood unlikely. After the Black Plague the diet of the general population improved. Meat became part of the diet and I am not talking the local cow. Vegetables entered into the general diet. You start to get really good recipes coming out of the times. It is not till the little ice age that food again becomes a general problem and the quality of the diet goes down. Poor nutrition in the cities became rampant and several revolutions took place. Sounds a little like this day and age. We are pushing vegetarianism now as the latest way to cure the problem. Great all those GMO corn and soy products. And don't think just because you avoid GMO foods that you are not eating GMO products, what do you think they fatten meat on in the stock yards. It is wonderful that you can purchase fresh fruits and vegetables. Gardens are great I got 12 seed potatoes out of my garden this year. But look around you in the store, see that gal with a cart with a few items in it mostly cheap foods from the " Inner Isles " she is not doing this for the fun of it. Food stamps allow for emergency levels of fruit and vegetable if you shop carefully, on sale, in the suburbs. Our cities are food deserts and we chide people for eating cheap food. You get more calories per dollar in the " Inner Isles " then on the 'Outer Edged " . Unless you have walked the walk you have no idea how depressing it is to walk down isle after isle and not be able to buy anything you can afford but cheap processed food. The landscape is not going to change anytime soon because the system won't allow it. It may take another Black Plague to set things right or a revolution. Unfortunately we are just compounding the problem with the direction we keep pushing. I bet everyone of those soldiers ate themselves sick with fresh fruit and vegetables before they went for the junk food as soon as they hit the states.. Jackie Chase RD Dillingham, AK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 Here I go again. What do you feed an animal to fatten it up for slauther, grain, corn in particular. Corn feed beef. Or as they do it in Japan beer another form of grain. So what do we encourage, high grain consumption. Before you say it they do not feed these animals processed " white " food. Now we after years of encouraging a grain based diet are reaping the results. Historically prior to the Black Plague most people ate a truly grain based diet with little or no meat or vegetables. Life was short fertility was low, survival to adulthood unlikely. After the Black Plague the diet of the general population improved. Meat became part of the diet and I am not talking the local cow. Vegetables entered into the general diet. You start to get really good recipes coming out of the times. It is not till the little ice age that food again becomes a general problem and the quality of the diet goes down. Poor nutrition in the cities became rampant and several revolutions took place. Sounds a little like this day and age. We are pushing vegetarianism now as the latest way to cure the problem. Great all those GMO corn and soy products. And don't think just because you avoid GMO foods that you are not eating GMO products, what do you think they fatten meat on in the stock yards. It is wonderful that you can purchase fresh fruits and vegetables. Gardens are great I got 12 seed potatoes out of my garden this year. But look around you in the store, see that gal with a cart with a few items in it mostly cheap foods from the " Inner Isles " she is not doing this for the fun of it. Food stamps allow for emergency levels of fruit and vegetable if you shop carefully, on sale, in the suburbs. Our cities are food deserts and we chide people for eating cheap food. You get more calories per dollar in the " Inner Isles " then on the 'Outer Edged " . Unless you have walked the walk you have no idea how depressing it is to walk down isle after isle and not be able to buy anything you can afford but cheap processed food. The landscape is not going to change anytime soon because the system won't allow it. It may take another Black Plague to set things right or a revolution. Unfortunately we are just compounding the problem with the direction we keep pushing. I bet everyone of those soldiers ate themselves sick with fresh fruit and vegetables before they went for the junk food as soon as they hit the states.. Jackie Chase RD Dillingham, AK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Remember that Jackie's originally posted recipe included lean ground moose. My family had nachos last night. We use ground elk instead of time, air and temp compromised ground beef found in most stores. Another new addition that I made last night to my end of the nachos platter was thin sliced Roma tomatoes on each one. My teenage son started stealing my tomatoes! Another good addition to the mix is black olives. And jalapenos are a pretty good veggie, even if they are pickled. W. Rowell, RD, LN Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT Consultant Dietitian, Long Term Care Certified LEAP Therapist Re: velveeta? BUT you can find those type of recipes everywhere but not always how to make them healthier. That is up to the Dietitians. On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Digna Cassens wrote: > > > I agree with this article and the researchers conclusion. However, there's > a > difference bw filling up on candy bars, soda and pizza, and posting a > recipe > for poppers that are known to be " bar " snacks for adults. It is also still > very important that if we want our message heard, we have to make it fun, > popular, and not stale and preachy. > > Digna > > > velveeta? > >> > >> I had to read this three times to make sure I was reading right. So RD's > >> are now encouraging and teaching others to use " processed cheese food " ?? > > >> I > >> know this is for tailgating soldiers, and supposed to be party food, but > >> seriously...there has to be something more nutritious RD's can offer > than > >> microwaving some velveeta in canned milk and pouring it over corn chips. > >> > >> Scratching my head on this one, > >> > >> , RD LD > >> land > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Remember that Jackie's originally posted recipe included lean ground moose. My family had nachos last night. We use ground elk instead of time, air and temp compromised ground beef found in most stores. Another new addition that I made last night to my end of the nachos platter was thin sliced Roma tomatoes on each one. My teenage son started stealing my tomatoes! Another good addition to the mix is black olives. And jalapenos are a pretty good veggie, even if they are pickled. W. Rowell, RD, LN Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT Consultant Dietitian, Long Term Care Certified LEAP Therapist Re: velveeta? BUT you can find those type of recipes everywhere but not always how to make them healthier. That is up to the Dietitians. On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Digna Cassens wrote: > > > I agree with this article and the researchers conclusion. However, there's > a > difference bw filling up on candy bars, soda and pizza, and posting a > recipe > for poppers that are known to be " bar " snacks for adults. It is also still > very important that if we want our message heard, we have to make it fun, > popular, and not stale and preachy. > > Digna > > > velveeta? > >> > >> I had to read this three times to make sure I was reading right. So RD's > >> are now encouraging and teaching others to use " processed cheese food " ?? > > >> I > >> know this is for tailgating soldiers, and supposed to be party food, but > >> seriously...there has to be something more nutritious RD's can offer > than > >> microwaving some velveeta in canned milk and pouring it over corn chips. > >> > >> Scratching my head on this one, > >> > >> , RD LD > >> land > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Thanks. All I asked was for a couple of her recipes and the list went insane. That's why I asked what article.... a simple request is not an article nor does it mean that I'm not teaching good nutrition here. I'd still like Jackie's recipe for baked poppers. I'm not working with great chefs here at Fort Riley. I'm teaching soldiers with TBIs who may or may not remember they signed up for a class or a trip or any number of things. I do not believe that Velveeta is as evil as some of you on the list seem to think. Re-read the ingredients and nutrition label. Just because something is formulated to make it easy to use in certain recipes, doesn't make it non-nutritious. grrr. grumpy velveeta? > >> > >> I had to read this three times to make sure I was reading right. So RD's > >> are now encouraging and teaching others to use " processed cheese food " ?? > > >> I > >> know this is for tailgating soldiers, and supposed to be party food, but > >> seriously...there has to be something more nutritious RD's can offer > than > >> microwaving some velveeta in canned milk and pouring it over corn chips. > >> > >> Scratching my head on this one, > >> > >> , RD LD > >> land > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Thanks. All I asked was for a couple of her recipes and the list went insane. That's why I asked what article.... a simple request is not an article nor does it mean that I'm not teaching good nutrition here. I'd still like Jackie's recipe for baked poppers. I'm not working with great chefs here at Fort Riley. I'm teaching soldiers with TBIs who may or may not remember they signed up for a class or a trip or any number of things. I do not believe that Velveeta is as evil as some of you on the list seem to think. Re-read the ingredients and nutrition label. Just because something is formulated to make it easy to use in certain recipes, doesn't make it non-nutritious. grrr. grumpy velveeta? > >> > >> I had to read this three times to make sure I was reading right. So RD's > >> are now encouraging and teaching others to use " processed cheese food " ?? > > >> I > >> know this is for tailgating soldiers, and supposed to be party food, but > >> seriously...there has to be something more nutritious RD's can offer > than > >> microwaving some velveeta in canned milk and pouring it over corn chips. > >> > >> Scratching my head on this one, > >> > >> , RD LD > >> land > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Hi and all, Velveeta and other 'SAD' foods are certainly not the root of all evil - corporations have that covered! I found the string of responses entertaining and thought provoking. People have to start from where they are at with change and mixing velveeta and salsa may be a real success for some eaters out there. More and more people have never prepared food at all. Simple can be a good place to start and chopped veggies on the side can be encouraged as a healthy extra. Baby carrots and hummous or refried bean dip can be just two extra things in the grocery cart but a huge nutritional touchdown. Thanks ,  for your great work with our soldiers.       R Vajda, R.D. Marquette, Michigan ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Mon, October 4, 2010 11:54:31 AM Subject: Re: velveeta?  Thanks. All I asked was for a couple of her recipes and the list went insane. That's why I asked what article.... a simple request is not an article nor does it mean that I'm not teaching good nutrition here. I'd still like Jackie's recipe for baked poppers.  I'm not working with great chefs here at Fort Riley. I'm teaching soldiers with TBIs who may or may not remember they signed up for a class or a trip or any number of things. I do not believe that Velveeta is as evil as some of you on the list seem to think. Re-read the ingredients and nutrition label. Just because something is formulated to make it easy to use in certain recipes, doesn't make it non-nutritious. grrr. grumpy velveeta? > >> > >> I had to read this three times to make sure I was reading right. So RD's > >> are now encouraging and teaching others to use " processed cheese food " ?? > > >> I > >> know this is for tailgating soldiers, and supposed to be party food, but > >> seriously...there has to be something more nutritious RD's can offer > than > >> microwaving some velveeta in canned milk and pouring it over corn chips. > >> > >> Scratching my head on this one, > >> > >> , RD LD > >> land > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 I agree. A little Velveeta provides some calcium and there are plenty of good stuff to put it on that might not get eaten otherwise. As for evil corporations, I believe there are a few on this list serve and many of us make a good living working and consulting for corporations! Maybe not so evil after all. W. Rowell, RD, LN Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT Consultant Dietitian, Long Term Care Certified LEAP Therapist From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Vajda Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:34 AM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: velveeta? Hi and all, Velveeta and other 'SAD' foods are certainly not the root of all evil - corporations have that covered! I found the string of responses entertaining and thought provoking. People have to start from where they are at with change and mixing velveeta and salsa may be a real success for some eaters out there. More and more people have never prepared food at all. Simple can be a good place to start and chopped veggies on the side can be encouraged as a healthy extra. Baby carrots and hummous or refried bean dip can be just two extra things in the grocery cart but a huge nutritional touchdown. Thanks , for your great work with our soldiers. R Vajda, R.D. Marquette, Michigan ________________________________ From: Schoneweis <sschonew@...<mailto:sschonew%40yahoo.com>> To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Mon, October 4, 2010 11:54:31 AM Subject: Re: velveeta? Thanks. All I asked was for a couple of her recipes and the list went insane. That's why I asked what article.... a simple request is not an article nor does it mean that I'm not teaching good nutrition here. I'd still like Jackie's recipe for baked poppers. I'm not working with great chefs here at Fort Riley. I'm teaching soldiers with TBIs who may or may not remember they signed up for a class or a trip or any number of things. I do not believe that Velveeta is as evil as some of you on the list seem to think. Re-read the ingredients and nutrition label. Just because something is formulated to make it easy to use in certain recipes, doesn't make it non-nutritious. grrr. grumpy velveeta? > >> > >> I had to read this three times to make sure I was reading right. So RD's > >> are now encouraging and teaching others to use " processed cheese food " ?? > > >> I > >> know this is for tailgating soldiers, and supposed to be party food, but > >> seriously...there has to be something more nutritious RD's can offer > than > >> microwaving some velveeta in canned milk and pouring it over corn chips. > >> > >> Scratching my head on this one, > >> > >> , RD LD > >> land > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 I agree. A little Velveeta provides some calcium and there are plenty of good stuff to put it on that might not get eaten otherwise. As for evil corporations, I believe there are a few on this list serve and many of us make a good living working and consulting for corporations! Maybe not so evil after all. W. Rowell, RD, LN Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT Consultant Dietitian, Long Term Care Certified LEAP Therapist From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Vajda Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:34 AM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: velveeta? Hi and all, Velveeta and other 'SAD' foods are certainly not the root of all evil - corporations have that covered! I found the string of responses entertaining and thought provoking. People have to start from where they are at with change and mixing velveeta and salsa may be a real success for some eaters out there. More and more people have never prepared food at all. Simple can be a good place to start and chopped veggies on the side can be encouraged as a healthy extra. Baby carrots and hummous or refried bean dip can be just two extra things in the grocery cart but a huge nutritional touchdown. Thanks , for your great work with our soldiers. R Vajda, R.D. Marquette, Michigan ________________________________ From: Schoneweis <sschonew@...<mailto:sschonew%40yahoo.com>> To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Mon, October 4, 2010 11:54:31 AM Subject: Re: velveeta? Thanks. All I asked was for a couple of her recipes and the list went insane. That's why I asked what article.... a simple request is not an article nor does it mean that I'm not teaching good nutrition here. I'd still like Jackie's recipe for baked poppers. I'm not working with great chefs here at Fort Riley. I'm teaching soldiers with TBIs who may or may not remember they signed up for a class or a trip or any number of things. I do not believe that Velveeta is as evil as some of you on the list seem to think. Re-read the ingredients and nutrition label. Just because something is formulated to make it easy to use in certain recipes, doesn't make it non-nutritious. grrr. grumpy velveeta? > >> > >> I had to read this three times to make sure I was reading right. So RD's > >> are now encouraging and teaching others to use " processed cheese food " ?? > > >> I > >> know this is for tailgating soldiers, and supposed to be party food, but > >> seriously...there has to be something more nutritious RD's can offer > than > >> microwaving some velveeta in canned milk and pouring it over corn chips. > >> > >> Scratching my head on this one, > >> > >> , RD LD > >> land > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Does everyone realize that Velveeta makes a 2% milk version.....not low salt but better than the regular version. ---- Original message ---- >Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 08:54:31 -0700 (PDT) >From: rd-usa (on behalf of Schoneweis ) >Subject: Re: velveeta? >To: rd-usa > > > > Thanks. All I asked was for a couple of her > recipes and the list went > insane. That's why I asked what article.... a > simple request is not an article > nor does it mean that I'm not teaching good > nutrition here. > > I'd still like Jackie's recipe for baked > poppers. I'm not working with great > chefs here at Fort Riley. I'm teaching soldiers with > TBIs who may or may not > remember they signed up for a class or a trip or any > number of things. I do not > believe that Velveeta is as evil as some of you on > the list seem to think. > Re-read the ingredients and nutrition label. Just > because something is > formulated to make it easy to use in certain > recipes, doesn't make it > non-nutritious. grrr. > > grumpy > > velveeta? > > >> > > >> I had to read this three times to make sure I > was reading right. So RD's > > >> are now encouraging and teaching others to use > " processed cheese food " ?? > > > > >> I > > >> know this is for tailgating soldiers, and > supposed to be party food, but > > >> seriously...there has to be something more > nutritious RD's can offer > > than > > >> microwaving some velveeta in canned milk and > pouring it over corn chips. > > >> > > >> Scratching my head on this one, > > >> > > >> , RD LD > > >> land > > >> > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > >> > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Ortiz, MS, RD > > > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* > <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> > > > > > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and > nutrition > > > > > > * " Older Dietitians " - seasoned to PERFECTION** > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Does everyone realize that Velveeta makes a 2% milk version.....not low salt but better than the regular version. ---- Original message ---- >Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 08:54:31 -0700 (PDT) >From: rd-usa (on behalf of Schoneweis ) >Subject: Re: velveeta? >To: rd-usa > > > > Thanks. All I asked was for a couple of her > recipes and the list went > insane. That's why I asked what article.... a > simple request is not an article > nor does it mean that I'm not teaching good > nutrition here. > > I'd still like Jackie's recipe for baked > poppers. I'm not working with great > chefs here at Fort Riley. I'm teaching soldiers with > TBIs who may or may not > remember they signed up for a class or a trip or any > number of things. I do not > believe that Velveeta is as evil as some of you on > the list seem to think. > Re-read the ingredients and nutrition label. Just > because something is > formulated to make it easy to use in certain > recipes, doesn't make it > non-nutritious. grrr. > > grumpy > > velveeta? > > >> > > >> I had to read this three times to make sure I > was reading right. So RD's > > >> are now encouraging and teaching others to use > " processed cheese food " ?? > > > > >> I > > >> know this is for tailgating soldiers, and > supposed to be party food, but > > >> seriously...there has to be something more > nutritious RD's can offer > > than > > >> microwaving some velveeta in canned milk and > pouring it over corn chips. > > >> > > >> Scratching my head on this one, > > >> > > >> , RD LD > > >> land > > >> > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > >> > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Ortiz, MS, RD > > > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* > <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> > > > > > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and > nutrition > > > > > > * " Older Dietitians " - seasoned to PERFECTION** > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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