A question from a fellow practioner

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Hi,I am a medical oncologist from Mumbai,India.Remediation in india is

predominantly Behaviour modification and there are'nt many with an

understanding of Biomedical interventions.Given my interest in Biomedical

interventions which started with my lovely 3 yr old diagnosed as PDD-nos I

also help a support group for parents of children with ASD in Mumbai. I

read your recent posts in Autism Mercury, on yeast related issues during

chelation,with great interest and have the following queries for you:

1.What are the most common symptoms & signs of yeast overgrowth during

chelation? ( For instance do children typically get involved in Self

stimulatory behavior and have lower focus on tabletop activities?)

2.There is a large vegetarian community in India!! What are the dietary

changes would you suggest for vegetarians who are already on GFCF & soy

freediet & want to go on a low carbohydrate diet? ( Indians have Rice as

staple diet !!!)

3.For what duration do you recommend the strict dietary restrictions?

(throughout the chelation process or only till eradication of yeast)

4.How long does it take approximately to eradicate yeast with the treatment

as outlined by you?

5.How Long can one delay chelation(in order to treat yeast issues) without

compromising its efficacy?

As we do not have DAN doctors in India,your guidance will help us a lot

Withbest wishes,

Dr .Shanta Venkat

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Dear Sir,

I'm not a physician, but I have been chelating my son for a year and a half

now, and have been reading these lists for 2-3 years, learning from all

kinds of people and experiences. So, let me try to answer some of your

questions.

First, of all, about the yeast overgrowth--

Some kids seem to have a lot more problem with this than others. I've heard

some say it makes a difference whether or not they received the Hep B at

birth. My son is 21 and does not seem to have as many yeast issues,

although he has tested positive for it occasionally throughout his life. We

have only had a little problem with it during chelating, and that was only

through testing, not really evident in his behavior. Most of the kids that

I know that have yeast problems get more silly and less attentive, almost

acting " drunk " , as Dr. Amy calls it. Also some of them are up at night.

Some people advocate getting this all cleaned up before chelating. Others

say no, just start chelating and the yeast will take care of itself in time.

I think it depends a lot on the individual child. If their progress is

stopping and behavior is really a problem, then maybe you need to treat for

a month and give lots of probiotics, etc. before starting again.

I can't answer the diet questions--from what I've heard, though, the kids

who are prone to yeast need to stay pretty sugar-free for a long time. Also

fruit juices, that type of thing, anything that feeds yeast.

I don't really think the yeast is totally eradicated always when people

start chelation again. I think it is something to keep in check, and crowd

out with probiotics. Eventually, as the mercury comes out, and the balance

is restored, the yeast won't grow as much.

My feeling is to spend some time on this, if necessary, but not to delay

chelation for too long. I would give anything for my son to be 10, or even

7, and to know about chelation, because his chances of recovery would be so

much greater. We have so much relearning for him to do, and when you have p

icked up things with your hands the wrong way for 20 years, that takes some

doing!

Perhaps others can add much more intelligent comments to this attempt!

Barb

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>Hi,I am a medical oncologist from Mumbai,India.Remediation in india is

>predominantly Behaviour modification and there are'nt many with an

>understanding of Biomedical interventions.Given my interest in Biomedical

>interventions which started with my lovely 3 yr old diagnosed as PDD-nos I

>also help a support group for parents of children with ASD in Mumbai. I

>read your recent posts in Autism Mercury, on yeast related issues during

>chelation,with great interest and have the following queries for you:

>1.What are the most common symptoms & signs of yeast overgrowth during

>chelation? ( For instance do children typically get involved in Self

>stimulatory behavior and have lower focus on tabletop activities?)

>2.There is a large vegetarian community in India!! What are the dietary

>changes would you suggest for vegetarians who are already on GFCF & soy

>freediet & want to go on a low carbohydrate diet? ( Indians have Rice as

>staple diet !!!)

>3.For what duration do you recommend the strict dietary restrictions?

>(throughout the chelation process or only till eradication of yeast)

>4.How long does it take approximately to eradicate yeast with the

treatment

>as outlined by you?

>5.How Long can one delay chelation(in order to treat yeast issues) without

>compromising its efficacy?

>As we do not have DAN doctors in India,your guidance will help us a lot

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>Withbest wishes,

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>Dr .Shanta Venkat

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Dear Doctor Venkat: 1) The answer to your first question is definitely a

yes. Often even before the stool problems arise (and there are some kids

who amazingly don't seem to have them) we see increased stimming,

hyperactivity, lack of presence, and sometimes odd laughter that is called

the " auto-brewery syndrome " - intoxication with the byproducts of yeast

causing a drunk appearance. Often they lose all interest in doing their

school work.

2) This is a difficult one. In past years I would never have thought that

rice and tofu could hurt anyone. However, I would administer amino acids

(crystalline if you can get them) and put the kids on a vegetable-only diet

for at least a week, with absolutely no sugar or fruit or juices of any

kind, though pear, cranberry and fresh berries are supposed to be the least

yeast-magnetic. Yeasts love apples, grapes, raisins, apple juice, grape

juice. Any juice should be diluted because of the sugar content. After a

week I would introduce any carbohydrates such as rice very slowly and if

possible not until the evidence of yeast subsides, always avoiding sugars.

3) A vegetable diet would satisfy the requirements of gluten-free,

casein-free, soy-free, which in my estimation is the one most valuable thing

any parent of an ASD child can do to start promoting the healthy gut that is

a requirement for them to start getting the nutrition to their brain that

they need. Once they have done some healing, some enzymes would help them

break down any peptides they happen to get in their food intake. I would

certainly do this preceding and throughout chelation, and preferably until

you have evidence that they can handle these peptides without getting yeast

or until you feel the removal of heavy metals has helped them recover enough

that you might start introducing a more normal diet.

4) I usually expect it to take at least 3 to 6 weeks of course depending

upon the severity of the infestation, and do not think it will get well

without dietary restrictions. I do not proceed with chelation until testing

or improved bowel function and behavior convince me they are yeast-free. I

almost always test the children I work with by organic acid urine analyses

to make sure the yeast is gone, and the test results usually parallel the

clinical evidence; unfortunately not always! In recalcitrant cases I do a

stool test for sensitivities to both herbal and prescription meds for more

specific treatment.

5) I do not think we have a choice but to wait until the yeast subsides.

In my experience, progress in some of my young clients slowed to a halt as

they continued chelation; this made me realize that in the face of a

serious yeast infection it was not wise to administer agents that impaired

the immune system and fed the yeast and stressed the liver without benefit

until gut healing was undertaken.

6) I would like to add that I believe the process of chelation for children

who were given early vaccines has to be much different than chelation for

older kids who had some immune development prior to vaccines and for adults,

who have not had the multiple assaults on their immune systems that the

present generation of youngsters are getting. I presume your vaccine

programs in India are similar to ours, but toxins of all kinds all over the

world are harming our chilren more every day. The pesticides in some areas

are probably causing the same thing we are seeing with multiple vaccines in

our very young toddlers, as well as lead and other heavy metals, as I am

sure you well know.

7) Under separate cover I will send you some more extensive material on gut

healing. I wish you great luck in your healing endeavors with your child

and other children there. Jaquelyn McCandless, M.D.

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> Hi,I am a medical oncologist from Mumbai,India.Remediation in india is

> predominantly Behaviour modification and there are'nt many with an

> understanding of Biomedical interventions.Given my interest in Biomedical

> interventions which started with my lovely 3 yr old diagnosed as PDD-nos I

> also help a support group for parents of children with ASD in Mumbai. I

> read your recent posts in Autism Mercury, on yeast related issues during

> chelation,with great interest and have the following queries for you:

> 1.What are the most common symptoms & signs of yeast overgrowth during

> chelation? ( For instance do children typically get involved in Self

> stimulatory behavior and have lower focus on tabletop activities?)

> 2.There is a large vegetarian community in India!! What are the dietary

> changes would you suggest for vegetarians who are already on GFCF & soy

> freediet & want to go on a low carbohydrate diet? ( Indians have Rice as

> staple diet !!!)

> 3.For what duration do you recommend the strict dietary restrictions?

> (throughout the chelation process or only till eradication of yeast)

> 4.How long does it take approximately to eradicate yeast with the

treatment

> as outlined by you?

> 5.How Long can one delay chelation(in order to treat yeast issues) without

> compromising its efficacy?

> As we do not have DAN doctors in India,your guidance will help us a lot

>

> Withbest wishes,

>

> Dr .Shanta Venkat

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