Guest guest Posted April 18, 2002 Report Share Posted April 18, 2002 My son is off of preschool this week and we're trying an extended chelation round...we're on day 4 he is seeming a bit more hyper and laughing for no particular reason..hope this is not a bad sign....the definate good signs are that he is expressing himself better and more often and making intense eye contact....he picked up a house i put on his train table and said " No! go-bye " and walked to the bedroom door and chucked it!!! Has anyone else tried an extended round...what results did you get? Thanks Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2002 Report Share Posted April 18, 2002 I tried an extended chelation cycle once and my son did not respond well. He had increased hyperactivity and seem more tired than ususal. I never did it again. The three days of chelation seems perfect for him. You will have to judge your son's reponse to the extended chelation cycle and see if he can handle it. Vicky --- sharashing@... wrote: > My son is off of preschool this week and we're > trying an extended chelation > round...we're on day 4 he is seeming a bit more > hyper and laughing for no > particular reason..hope this is not a bad > sign....the definate good signs are > that he is expressing himself better and more often > and making intense eye > contact....he picked up a house i put on his train > table and said " No! > go-bye " and walked to the bedroom door and chucked > it!!! Has anyone else > tried an extended round...what results did you get? > Thanks Sharon > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2002 Report Share Posted April 18, 2002 Sharon, Hi, we just finished a 2 week round of chelation. I think it was round 6 for us. My son weighs approx. 50 lbs. and we give 20mg DMSA and 20mgALA every 3 hours/day, 4hours/night. I really hated to see my son have 2 bad days every week coming down off of chelation. Monday and Tuesday were a drag and his therapy especially speech was not going well. Along with all the anitoxidents I give lots of probiotics, 3 different types, 90 billion cells total, split in 2 doses morning and afternoon. I tried to cut this in half and thought I saw a change in his poops. We are now going to take a little more than 2 weeks off before we chelate again. The laughing could be yeast with your son, do you give probiotics or GSE? Sam was great during the round, we are glad not to be getting up at 2am for the next 2 weeks or so! Maddie > My son is off of preschool this week and we're trying an extended chelation > round...we're on day 4 he is seeming a bit more hyper and laughing for no > particular reason..hope this is not a bad sign....the definate good signs are > that he is expressing himself better and more often and making intense eye > contact....he picked up a house i put on his train table and said " No! > go-bye " and walked to the bedroom door and chucked it!!! Has anyone else > tried an extended round...what results did you get? Thanks Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2002 Report Share Posted April 18, 2002 yes Sharon, I did a round of 4.5 days on Spring break when I usually do 2.5 days (weekend). He was nastier and a for a bit longer almost 5 days after a round. I still saw gains though. just two days ago I told him it was bed time and he said " I'm not tired " . He's never been prompted for this. BTW, I had to really up his probiotics and GSE along with Oregano oil to get the yeast down. I really wish I didn't have to take 2 steps back to go one step forward. Maybe if I understood the sulfation/detoxification pathways more along with the fast/slow phase 1 and 2 it might be easier on him but I can't figure this out yet and I'm sure Andy is weary of trying to explain it to me. I keep looking at the charts and re-reading his book but I only get more confused each time. Duh! Re: [ ] Trying an extended chelation round My son is off of preschool this week and we're trying an extended chelation round...we're on day 4 he is seeming a bit more hyper and laughing for no particular reason..hope this is not a bad sign....the definate good signs are that he is expressing himself better and more often and making intense eye contact....he picked up a house i put on his train table and said " No! go-bye " and walked to the bedroom door and chucked it!!! Has anyone else tried an extended round...what results did you get? Thanks Sharon ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2002 Report Share Posted April 18, 2002 Hi We did 22 doses instead of 16 on round 2 (round one was 3/11). Whilst we have had problems with poop on the floor (not for about 7 months) and wetting at school (again not for about 9 months) and he seemed extra intense in stimms, there have been short bursts of brilliant 'normal' stuff too. I also confused the issue slightly by retrying a homeopathc probiotic liquid (???) and the nasty yeasty excema type rash we have had for 2 months is gone!!! Maybe the extra stimming was down to die off. Back to 3 days this round but will try extended again in school hols. Sam is 5.3, 43Lbs and we give 25ng DMSA 4 hourly round the clock. Mandi in UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2002 Report Share Posted April 19, 2002 Well as it turns out i only extended it by one day because by 12.30 last night he was " off the wall " Thanks for you input Vicki! Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2002 Report Share Posted April 19, 2002 Maddie yes we do give probiotics and antifungals during chelation...last night he was off the wall..i'v been doing 20mg every 3 hrs 4 at night...maybe the dose is too high? he weighs about 35lbs? Seems like a low enough dose though...hmm? Thanks Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2002 Report Share Posted April 19, 2002 Sharon, We did a 6 day " on " chelation round with our 17 year old son last chelation cycle. We also lowered the dosage like Andy recommends for people with more side effects. We gave him lipoic acid every 3 hours. His nose did not run like it normally does and we did see improvements. We started to do the same, again, but I stopped chelating him last night at 3 l/2 days as I feel that I got a virus. I think these long chelation rounds really do a better job with less side effects!!! I really appreciate Andy, Moria, and others on this list who have helped us so much!!! Thank you. Rose Re: [ ] Trying an extended chelation round My son is off of preschool this week and we're trying an extended chelation round...we're on day 4 he is seeming a bit more hyper and laughing for no particular reason..hope this is not a bad sign....the definate good signs are that he is expressing himself better and more often and making intense eye contact....he picked up a house i put on his train table and said " No! go-bye " and walked to the bedroom door and chucked it!!! Has anyone else tried an extended round...what results did you get? Thanks Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2002 Report Share Posted April 19, 2002 Thanks Rose..it does make sense that a longer round may be more effective..how long have you been doing chelation with your son? Thanks Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2002 Report Share Posted April 19, 2002 Sharon, My son weighs 47 lbs, we started our first round with 12mg each DMSA and ALA. After round 3 we went up to 20 mg each. 3hrs 4at night. I would go with a lower dosage and see if it makes a difference. We use 90 billion cells a day of probiotics. I thought this was an unusually high amount but maybe everyone uses this much? Also 3 different kinds. I tried to cut the amount in half (they cost!) but he started to have issues. Also we give houston enzymes with all foods even though we are basically gfcf. And the antioxidents that Andy recommends. Go with your instinct. My husband and I both think our son is trying to use more expressive language this week. Sharing his thoughts a bit more. He is very language delayed, 6yo. Maddie > Maddie yes we do give probiotics and antifungals during chelation...last > night he was off the wall..i'v been doing 20mg every 3 hrs 4 at night...maybe > the dose is too high? he weighs about 35lbs? Seems like a low enough dose > though...hmm? Thanks Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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