Guest guest Posted April 25, 2002 Report Share Posted April 25, 2002 I listened as did several others I know ... advocated: education, behavior therapy and medications... I wanted to vomit... discussing techniques that are over 20 years old... no mention of diet... no mention of vaccine/mercury issues... same old junk from 2 decades ago...I, of course, called to complain and told them that if they were going to do a segment on autism during autism awareness month, they really needed to research current practices. Advocating behavior therapy and meds does nothing to get at root problems!... IMHO!!! Jeanne A.Brohart http://www.autismhelpforyou.com/ r_d_meyer wrote: > Focus on the Family > > with Dr. Dobson is doing a special on Autism and it's treatments > > this week on Christian Radio > > If interested you can write him with your input:: > > 8605 Explorer Drive > Colorado Springs, CO 80995 > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2002 Report Share Posted April 26, 2002 Thank you Randee for putting into words what I wanted to write. I think the 3-day broadcasts by Dr. Dobson were very well done. They did a great job of informing the listeners what autism is, that there is hope (we all as parents need to look into all the different treatments available, try them, and see what will work for our children because each of our kids responds differently to the treatments), and that others in our churches and community need to help meet the needs of the parents of special needs kids and be sensitive instead of critical to what they are going through. I'm very pleased at what was said. Sharon Randee wrote: > I am sorry that you don't think that advocating for early > intervention and behavior therapy are worthwhile. My son was > diagnosed at 23 months with autism, and through two years of 40 hours > per week of behavior therapy, (aka ABA), we now have our son back. We > did nothing else except some supplements during those two years. For > the last two years, (he just turned 6), we added GFCF, (which, btw, > Hamilton also highly encourages), and are now looking into > chelating. For all intents and purposes, my son is recovered, using > ABA only. The nagging issue that we still deal with is lack of > attention to task and fine motor delays. He goes to a regular > preschool, and will be starting kindergarten in a regular class. I > firmly believe that he needed ABA in order to learn how to learn. He > could not learn from his environment at all. He really needed things > broken down. As for this method being 20 years old, it is true that > the ground breaking work began in the 70's, (or maybe even the 60's, > by Dr. Lovaas), but as with everything else, it continues to evolve > and change as we understand more about teaching children with autism. > For instance, when we began 4 years ago, there was no readily > available information on the " Verbal Behavior " model of ABA, (made > popular by Partington, Sunborn, and Carbonne). Now, this newer method > of ABA is taking the country by storm, and the success stories are > abundant. > > I agree that there are so many issues involved in this autism puzzle > and it is a shame that there can't be a more inclusive program to > address the many issues, but Mrs. Hamilton did state that there were > new advancements all the time and that parents need to educate > themselves, " become autism experts " , I believe was her exact term, and > not rely soley on one doctor to inform you. > > I applaud Dr. Dobson for even taking the time, (three consecutive days > in fact) to do a show on autism, and to show that there is hope and > help for families affected. Even after an aggressive letter writing > campaign, Opra Winfry still refused to address it. Unfortunately, in > three 1/2 hour segments, with three guests speaking, it is a little > difficult to cover all of the bases. > > If you would like to know about all of the information that > Hamilton covers, read her book, " Facing Autism " . She does cover diet, > vaccines, secretin, and a number of other important issues. > > Randee > > P.S. If anyone would like to hear the shows, on their computer, go to > www.fotf.org > Re: [ ] DR. DOBSON > > > I listened as did several others I know ... advocated: education, > behavior therapy and medications... I wanted to vomit... discussing > techniques that are over 20 years old... no mention of diet... no > mention of vaccine/mercury issues... same old junk from 2 decades > ago...I, of course, called to complain and told them that if they > were > going to do a segment on autism during autism awareness month, they > really needed to research current practices. > > Advocating behavior therapy and meds does nothing to get at root > problems!... IMHO!!! > > Jeanne A.Brohart > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com/ > > r_d_meyer wrote: > > > Focus on the Family > > > > with Dr. Dobson is doing a special on Autism and it's > treatments > > > > this week on Christian Radio > > > > If interested you can write him with your input:: > > > > 8605 Explorer Drive > > Colorado Springs, CO 80995 > > > > > > ======================================================= > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2002 Report Share Posted April 26, 2002 >>>>>>I am sorry that you don't think that advocating for early intervention >>>>>>and behavior therapy are worthwhile. <<<<< It was more than worthwhile for us, as well. My son is turning 6 in 1 week and without Greenspan's " Floortime " , he wouldn't be wear he is today. He still has some behavior issues, but without the early intervention, a gfcf diet and tweaking of supplements, he would be very delayed. His language is age appropriate, he plays well, he has a great imagination, he's hyperlexic and smart as a whip. I may not be the best fan of ABA, but therapy comes in a variety of colors and what's right for one child may not be for another, but most are worthwhile to explore. There's no doubt in my mind that acting early can make all the difference in the world. a - Peoria IL mom to Alec 7.9 (Dyslexia), 5.11 (Asperger's Syndrome) and 4.2 (Princess Syndrome!!!!) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2002 Report Share Posted April 26, 2002 Thanks for the audio link! I wasn't able to hear the original broadcast. I think Jeanne was trying to point out the it is not that education, behavioral therapy and meds are not useful or helpful, it is just that the newer biomedica therapies and vaccine/mercury connections where not mentioned at all, and they are important too. But time is limited and you always need to pick and choose what comes up. Autism has so very many aspects, something will always get left out. But many people still have the old stereotypes in mind, and just saying there are " newer " discoveries and alternatives could give some people hope where they may feel they have exhausted all their options. I used and saw success from each of education, behavioral (floortime model), meds (two gave nothing, one was horrible, one was immensely successful) and 'alternative' stuff (enzymes, milk thistle, colloidal silver, magnesium, etc). The mix of things that will help will be a little different for each person. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2002 Report Share Posted April 26, 2002 Does anyone know if this is a first for Dr. Dobson? meaning isn't it good that ANY time was given to autism at all, this go 'round? I used to listen to that show for several years and they would often have topics come up over and over but focus on different aspects of it. Maybe getting good feedback that it was a great topic to hear about will encourage them to do more shows emphasizing different parts of the autism arena. And then add some of the things you would like to hear about in the future. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2002 Report Share Posted April 26, 2002 I understand where you are coming from... if you go to my site...you will very much see that I too am a christian...but, that doesn't mean that I agree with everything I hear from a radio show just because it is put on by a christian station...they could have done much much better on this issue! Emphasis was placed on behavior therapy and meds...that was about it...were that not his emphasis, he would have had " more guests " to represent the other side instead of three people discussing the behavior perspective (his two guests and himself)... very unbalanced show... poor, poor job of raising " awareness " IMHO! My intent is not to keep going on regarding this issue...I've stated my views... I respect all of yours...no need to get into major discussions on this ... time to get back to what really counts...educating each other in best practices! ) Jeanne Altamesa1@... wrote: > With all due respect, I believe Dr. Dobson's show on autism was > focused more > on parent's relationships with God and how He has helped them get > through a > tremendously hard time. That is a good message for all of us. He > touched on > issues that the interviewed parents had dealt with which included > education, > behavior therapy and medication. It was not his goal to advocate one > treatment over the other, but rather to emphasize the hardships > families of > autistic kids go through and how friends, family and churches can help > these > families. I understand your frustration, but I think you missed his > whole > point. > > Mickey > > In a message dated 04/25/2002 3:55:57 PM Central Daylight Time, > writes: > > > > I listened as did several others I know ... advocated: education, > > behavior therapy and medications... I wanted to vomit... discussing > > techniques that are over 20 years old... no mention of diet... no > > mention of vaccine/mercury issues... same old junk from 2 decades > > ago...I, of course, called to complain and told them that if they > were > > going to do a segment on autism during autism awareness month, they > > really needed to research current practices. > > > > Advocating behavior therapy and meds does nothing to get at root > > problems!... IMHO!!! > > > > Jeanne A.Brohart > > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com/ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2002 Report Share Posted April 27, 2002 Mickey, You said that " DR Dobson's goal was on the parent's relationships with God and how God has helped them get through a tremendously hard time. " I am a Christian. And What better way for God to help the parents and children but to HEAL THEM? Heal through diet, mercury removal, supplements? God wants our children to be healed! DR Dobson said there are many Non proven methods that many parents do for autism then some DR went on to say there are many scams too. Did her even mention the word Diet? NO. I agree that ABA is great and helps many kids but he could have done a lot more! Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2002 Report Share Posted May 26, 2002 I am sorry that you don't think that advocating for early intervention and behavior therapy are worthwhile. My son was diagnosed at 23 months with autism, and through two years of 40 hours per week of behavior therapy, (aka ABA), we now have our son back. We did nothing else except some supplements during those two years. For the last two years, (he just turned 6), we added GFCF, (which, btw, Hamilton also highly encourages), and are now looking into chelating. For all intents and purposes, my son is recovered, using ABA only. The nagging issue that we still deal with is lack of attention to task and fine motor delays. He goes to a regular preschool, and will be starting kindergarten in a regular class. I firmly believe that he needed ABA in order to learn how to learn. He could not learn from his environment at all. He really needed things broken down. As for this method being 20 years old, it is true that the ground breaking work began in the 70's, (or maybe even the 60's, by Dr. Lovaas), but as with everything else, it continues to evolve and change as we understand more about teaching children with autism. For instance, when we began 4 years ago, there was no readily available information on the " Verbal Behavior " model of ABA, (made popular by Partington, Sunborn, and Carbonne). Now, this newer method of ABA is taking the country by storm, and the success stories are abundant. I agree that there are so many issues involved in this autism puzzle and it is a shame that there can't be a more inclusive program to address the many issues, but Mrs. Hamilton did state that there were new advancements all the time and that parents need to educate themselves, " become autism experts " , I believe was her exact term, and not rely soley on one doctor to inform you. I applaud Dr. Dobson for even taking the time, (three consecutive days in fact) to do a show on autism, and to show that there is hope and help for families affected. Even after an aggressive letter writing campaign, Opra Winfry still refused to address it. Unfortunately, in three 1/2 hour segments, with three guests speaking, it is a little difficult to cover all of the bases. If you would like to know about all of the information that Hamilton covers, read her book, " Facing Autism " . She does cover diet, vaccines, secretin, and a number of other important issues. Randee P.S. If anyone would like to hear the shows, on their computer, go to www.fotf.org Re: [ ] DR. DOBSON I listened as did several others I know ... advocated: education, behavior therapy and medications... I wanted to vomit... discussing techniques that are over 20 years old... no mention of diet... no mention of vaccine/mercury issues... same old junk from 2 decades ago...I, of course, called to complain and told them that if they were going to do a segment on autism during autism awareness month, they really needed to research current practices. Advocating behavior therapy and meds does nothing to get at root problems!... IMHO!!! Jeanne A.Brohart http://www.autismhelpforyou.com/ r_d_meyer wrote: > Focus on the Family > > with Dr. Dobson is doing a special on Autism and it's treatments > > this week on Christian Radio > > If interested you can write him with your input:: > > 8605 Explorer Drive > Colorado Springs, CO 80995 > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2002 Report Share Posted May 26, 2002 Oops, sorry, the author's name is Lynn Hamilton, not . I guess I was thinking about Superwoman. lol Re: [ ] DR. DOBSON I listened as did several others I know ... advocated: education, behavior therapy and medications... I wanted to vomit... discussing techniques that are over 20 years old... no mention of diet... no mention of vaccine/mercury issues... same old junk from 2 decades ago...I, of course, called to complain and told them that if they were going to do a segment on autism during autism awareness month, they really needed to research current practices. Advocating behavior therapy and meds does nothing to get at root problems!... IMHO!!! Jeanne A.Brohart http://www.autismhelpforyou.com/ r_d_meyer wrote: > Focus on the Family > > with Dr. Dobson is doing a special on Autism and it's treatments > > this week on Christian Radio > > If interested you can write him with your input:: > > 8605 Explorer Drive > Colorado Springs, CO 80995 > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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