Re: 5-HTP and grapefruit seed extract--OK?

[Guest guest]

> HI All, I was wondering if I could put my 17 year old autistic son

> back on 5-HTP and maybe also inositol for his fearfulness, since I

am

> giving him GSE for his yeast. Will the GSE interfere with the

5-HTP?

Not that I know of.

> I don't think the 5-HTP is an SSRI

It is not.

> even though it helps the mood and

> fearfulness. What do you think? Is this okay to use this

> combination of inositol, 5-HTP, and GSE? I would appreciate your

> answers. Thank you. Ro

[Guest guest]

Hi Rose, did you ever get any replies to this question?

I'm in the same position, just planning to try 5HTP and GSE together,

plus Houston enzymes.

Are there any problems anyone can see with this combination?

Grateful for advice, thanks.

> Hi, I want to put my 17 year old autistic son back on 5-HTP and

maybe

> also inositol for his fearfulness. Since I have been giving him

GSE

> lately for yeast, will the 5-HTP interfere with the GSE? I don't

> think the 5-HTP is an SSRI even though it helps the mood and

> fearfulness. What do you think? Is this okay to use this

> combination? I would appreciate your answers. Thank you. Rose

[Guest guest]

, I did get an answer from another group, that of Andy Cutler,

he said there are no interactions that he knows of. I take it that

it does not mean there are no interactions between them, just that he

does not know about them. Now, Dr. Ray Sahelian who writes on 5-HTP

all the time said we must be cautious of 5-HTP because it has not

been used for that many years. He said there are lot of unknowns and

to use 5-HTP with caution. My gut feeling is to not use 5-HTP with

GSE, since GSE could increase the effectiveness of 5-HTP and maybe

change some other factor. I don't know. I started using 5-HTP

again, and stopped the GSE. After this chelation round I have my son

on, I may stop the 5-HTP and put him back on the GSE for yeast. 5-

HTP does not need to be given every day. It can be used

intermittently. Another thing I have in mind is that maybe the 5-HTP

could be given at a different time of the day than the GSE. Maybe

someone else has the answer to this. Rose

-- In @y..., " lasorrell_uk " <lasorrell@h...> wrote:

> Hi Rose, did you ever get any replies to this question?

>

> I'm in the same position, just planning to try 5HTP and GSE

together,

> plus Houston enzymes.

>

> Are there any problems anyone can see with this combination?

>

> Grateful for advice, thanks.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What is GSE? What is it used for?

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

, I am retyping this message as the one I wrote yesterday seems to have

gotten completely eaten up. Yes, one person answered me on the autism treatment

group. Andy Cutler said he knew of no interferences or problems between using

GSE and 5-HTP. However, in my opinion that does not mean there are no

interferences or problems when using both of them together. It is my gut

feeling these 2 should not be used together at the same time. Dr. Sahelian, who

writes a lot on 5-HTP encourages people to be cautious about the use of it. He

says it is relatively new and we don't know that much about it. Also,

Grapefruit has a history of changing the potency of a medication. So, I am

playing it safe; and I dropped the GSE while I restarted my son on the 5-HTP. I

plan to resume and use the GSE for a few days after completing this round of

chelation on my son. ( I have been doing the 6-day every 3 hour rounds with him

lately.) 5-HTP doesn't have to be taken everyday. Dr. Sahelian believes

people can get sensitized to it if too much of it is taken or it is taken every

single day. Andy Cutler also said that 5-HTP is NOT an SSRI. I hope

something here helps. Rose

[ ] Re: 5-HTP and grapefruit seed extract--OK?

Hi Rose, did you ever get any replies to this question?

I'm in the same position, just planning to try 5HTP and GSE together,

plus Houston enzymes.

Are there any problems anyone can see with this combination?

Grateful for advice, thanks.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/18/02 11:54:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

danaatty@... writes:

> http://www.autismchannel.net/dana/yeast.htm

>

>

THANKS!

[Guest guest]

> What is GSE? What is it used for?

>

My yeast page

http://www.autismchannel.net/dana/yeast.htm

Dana

> Thanks!

[Guest guest]

My husband (and I) take a product that has GSE and 5-htp in the same

capsule. The medical and scientific board behind the company is

awesome. Dr Hackman, research professor at U. of California at

and Scheckenbach - doctoral program in

microbiology/biochemistery at Oregon State University. I trust the

safety of the product.

I take this because it helps with mood and the munchies. My husband

got off of his antidepressant (Wellbutrin was the first he tried,

then Celexa). He doing so much better with the GSE and 5-htp. He

takes it 3 times a day. I take it once a day and also take 20 mg of

elavil. Elavil has been great for me.

Mollie

> , I am retyping this message as the one I wrote yesterday

seems to have gotten completely eaten up. Yes, one person answered

me on the autism treatment group. Andy Cutler said he knew of no

interferences or problems between using GSE and 5-HTP. However, in

my opinion that does not mean there are no interferences or problems

when using both of them together. It is my gut feeling these 2

should not be used together at the same time. Dr. Sahelian, who

writes a lot on 5-HTP encourages people to be cautious about the use

of it. He says it is relatively new and we don't know that much

about it. Also, Grapefruit has a history of changing the potency of

a medication. So, I am playing it safe; and I dropped the GSE while

I restarted my son on the 5-HTP. I plan to resume and use the GSE

for a few days after completing this round of chelation on my son.

( I have been doing the 6-day every 3 hour rounds with him lately.)

5-HTP doesn't have to be taken everyday. Dr. Sahelian believes

people can get sensitized to it if too much of it is taken or it is

taken every single day. Andy Cutler also said that 5-HTP is NOT an

SSRI. I hope something here helps. Rose

> [ ] Re: 5-HTP and grapefruit seed extract-

-OK?

>

>

> Hi Rose, did you ever get any replies to this question?

>

> I'm in the same position, just planning to try 5HTP and GSE

together,

> plus Houston enzymes.

>

> Are there any problems anyone can see with this combination?

>

> Grateful for advice, thanks.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mollie, this sounds interesting. Is this a prescription drug? If not, where

can one purchase this? Also, is there a website for this product? Thank you.

Sorry for so many questions. I am a very curious person. Rose

[ ] Re: 5-HTP and grapefruit seed extract-

-OK?

>

>

> Hi Rose, did you ever get any replies to this question?

>

> I'm in the same position, just planning to try 5HTP and GSE

together,

> plus Houston enzymes.

>

> Are there any problems anyone can see with this combination?

>

> Grateful for advice, thanks.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Mollie,

I'm really interested in this combined product too. Will you post

the brand name, where it can be bought etc. please? I'm in the UK,

so will have to find out if it is available here, or through mail

order.

Thanks in advance

Oh, one other question - is GSE only available in liquid form

normally? My kids both " smell a rat " a MILE off if I try to put any

kind of drops into their drinks, they really are seriously

hypersensitive to smells, tastes etc. and I cant get away with

anything though other people assure me I will be able to.

I've been looking for a good GSE product in the UK, in tablet or

capsule form. Anyone know where I should go?

Thanks again.

> > , I am retyping this message as the one I wrote

yesterday

> seems to have gotten completely eaten up. Yes, one person

answered

> me on the autism treatment group. Andy Cutler said he knew of no

> interferences or problems between using GSE and 5-HTP.

However, in

> my opinion that does not mean there are no interferences or

problems

> when using both of them together. It is my gut feeling these

2

> should not be used together at the same time. Dr. Sahelian, who

> writes a lot on 5-HTP encourages people to be cautious about the

use

> of it. He says it is relatively new and we don't know that much

> about it. Also, Grapefruit has a history of changing the potency

of

> a medication. So, I am playing it safe; and I dropped the GSE

while

> I restarted my son on the 5-HTP. I plan to resume and use the

GSE

> for a few days after completing this round of chelation on my

son.

> ( I have been doing the 6-day every 3 hour rounds with him

lately.)

> 5-HTP doesn't have to be taken everyday. Dr. Sahelian believes

> people can get sensitized to it if too much of it is taken or it

is

> taken every single day. Andy Cutler also said that 5-HTP is

NOT an

> SSRI. I hope something here helps. Rose

> > [ ] Re: 5-HTP and grapefruit seed

extract-

> -OK?

> >

> >

> > Hi Rose, did you ever get any replies to this question?

> >

> > I'm in the same position, just planning to try 5HTP and GSE

> together,

> > plus Houston enzymes.

> >

> > Are there any problems anyone can see with this combination?

> >

> > Grateful for advice, thanks.

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> My gut feeling is to not use 5-HTP with

> GSE, since GSE could increase the effectiveness of 5-HTP and maybe

> change some other factor.

Hi Rose,

>From what I read, I don't think GSE could increase the effectiveness of

5-HTP.

GSE can increase the effectiveness of some prescription drugs, by inhibiting

one of the body's intestinal enzyme systems that would otherwise breakdown

drug molecules before they reach the blood stream.

But I don't think it's the case here.

Of course, I can be wrong.

Or maybe GSE interacts with 5-HTP in some other way...

Sorry I can't help more.

Valentina