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Kathy -- Thank you. . . not to appear even more

densse, but can I ask for an across the board

vitamin/mineral analysis, or do I need to target

specific nutrients?--D

--- myketokid@... wrote:

> D,

> These vitamin and mineral (and carnitine) levels

> have to be asked for

> specifically. Many of them have to be sent off to

> another lab, so this

> takes a while. Here's how we do bloodwork: over

> the course of time, I

> read and read of what everyone else is ordering,

> then I let my doc know

> what I'm reading and worried about. He also adds

> what he is concerned

> with and we go from there. Remember, we have no

> keto team (just me, my

> pediatrician, and the LORD). My pediatrician has

> been learning, just as

> I have. He usually orders a CBC (I think it is a

> complete blood count)

> and a CMP (complete metabolic profile) and a lipid

> profile and any other

> thing that we are concerned with. My doc is very

> open to me asking for

> specifics, I mean, they are already drawing blood,

> why not satisfy the

> mom by honoring her request!?! Unlike some docs, he

> is very respectful

> of what the mothers on our list have " uncovered. "

> He has never once

> discounted what I've learned from this list (trust

> me, I'm super

> thankful!). My neuro is clueless on bloodwork, he's

> never once even

> asked about bloodwork (since we are off AEDs), he is

> very uneducated on

> the diet.

> Kathy in Tennessee

> Mom to - 6 - Keto kid since 02/00, Med free,

> seizures 95% reduced

> Mom to 'lil sis, a - 3

> " Even to your old age and gray hairs I am He, I am

> He who will sustain

> you. I have made you and I will carry you; I will

> sustain you and I will

> rescue you. "

> Isaiah 46:4

>

>

> On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:54:21 -0700 (PDT) DeEtte

> Person

> writes:

> > Kathy -- What kind of bloodwork do you routinely

> do?

> > This was the type of info I thought I was going to

> get

> > from our blood work (selenium, carnitine, etc.)

> but it

> > didn't have any of that!--D

> >

> > --- myketokid@... wrote:

> > > ,

> > > LOL!!!! Won't tell IZ a thing! continues

> to

> > > do very well. But,

> > > this month, he has had 4 seizures (instead of

> his

> > > monthly 2). I have 2

> > > possible culprits. We decreased his ratio a

> couple

> > > of months ago to

> > > 3.3:1 (from 3.5:1). Well, when I remade the

> meals,

> > > I added some

> > > calories. He hadn't grown at his last Doc's

> visit

> > > and he had been

> > > getting hungry. So, (yes, the cardinal sin) I

> > > increase calories at the

> > > same time that I decreased the ratio. Well,

> then I

> > > added a nut snack a

> > > few weeks ago, when he started school (trying to

> > > coordinate times, etc.).

> > > This is when we've seen the extra seizures.

> They

> > > are still " one at a

> > > time " always in the middle of the night. But, I

> > > really think the calorie

> > > increase is our culprit, so a few days ago I

> > > decreased them a little. If

> > > this doesn't seem to cut them back down, I'll

> look

> > > at raising the ratio

> > > back up. But, I'm gonna give it a couple

> months.

> > > OH, and also, Dh

> > > changed the brands of mac nuts, so my

> calculations

> > > have been off for a

> > > while (less fat), so this also could have done

> some

> > > ketone fluctuating.

> > > You'd think a mac nut is a mac nut, I guess not!

> > > We are scheduled for a " bone densitometry " test

> > > next week (he was

> > > suppose to have it last week, but I forgot and

> gave

> > > him his calcium that

> > > day, so they had to reschedule). I've been a

> little

> > > parnoid about the

> > > osteoporosis thing anyway, but when showed

> no

> > > recent growth, we

> > > REALLY felt we should go ahead with this. Plus,

> > > this will give us a

> > > baseline to compare with over the years (looks

> like

> > > we are in this diet

> > > for life).

> > > His recent bloodwork showed his selenium is low

> -

> > > I'm adding brazil

> > > nuts, and his Vit A is low - I'm adding more

> carrots

> > > to his meals. I'm

> > > trying to avoid adding more supplements. What

> multi

> > > vitamin are you

> > > using (I know I've asked this a million times).

> I

> > > really need to change

> > > from the Bugs, but I've haven't because

> loves

> > > it (he begs for his

> > > vitamin everyday) and until now, all his vitamin

> > > levels have came back

> > > great. Figure this one: his carnitine level

> was

> > > abnormally high - and

> > > we haven't supplemented carnitine in over a

> year. I

> > > thought this diet

> > > was suppose to deplete the carnitine level, who

> > > knows?

> > > Anyway, this is more info than what you asked

> for.

> > > Thanks for your

> > > concern. So glad Jess has made it through 2

> > > " seizure " months. Hope it

> > > continues.

> > > Kathy in Tennessee

> > > Mom to - 6 - Keto kid since 02/00, Med

> free,

> > > seizures 95% reduced

> > > Mom to 'lil sis, a - 3

> > > " Even to your old age and gray hairs I am He, I

> am

> > > He who will sustain

> > > you. I have made you and I will carry you; I

> will

> > > sustain you and I will

> > > rescue you. "

> > > Isaiah 46:4

> > >

> > >

> > > On Wed, 29 Aug 2001 18:57:40 +0000 " m.coole "

> > >

> > > writes:

> > > > myketokid@... wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > > Careful using the word " status " in

> your

> > > posts - my heart

> > > > skipped

> > > > > a beat

> > > > > - thought your were gonna tell us Jess was

> > > having seizures. SO

> > > > GLAD

> > > > > that

> > > > > wasn't the case - so glad you have a good

> > > vacation.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Oh my gosh, sorry this is so old, I saved it

> to

> > > respond to, then

> > > > just

> > > > found it again :)

> > > > Well you're right, never thought of that,

> maybe I

> > > should set my

> > > > puter to

> > > > delete THAT word from the spellcheck and just

> > > refuse to let it be

> > > > typed

> > > > in at all, think it will work? LOL Speakin of

> > > that word, we are

> > > > doing

> > > > good - nothing since Feb and both May and Aug

> are

> > > " those " months so

>

=== message truncated ===

=====

DeEtte -- Mom to (, 6, keto-kid since 1/01, med-free, seizures greatly

reduced) and (, 4), sdale, AZ

" I know God would never give me more than I can handle. . .I just wish he didn't

trust me so much. "

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Kathy -- Thank you. . . not to appear even more

densse, but can I ask for an across the board

vitamin/mineral analysis, or do I need to target

specific nutrients?--D

--- myketokid@... wrote:

> D,

> These vitamin and mineral (and carnitine) levels

> have to be asked for

> specifically. Many of them have to be sent off to

> another lab, so this

> takes a while. Here's how we do bloodwork: over

> the course of time, I

> read and read of what everyone else is ordering,

> then I let my doc know

> what I'm reading and worried about. He also adds

> what he is concerned

> with and we go from there. Remember, we have no

> keto team (just me, my

> pediatrician, and the LORD). My pediatrician has

> been learning, just as

> I have. He usually orders a CBC (I think it is a

> complete blood count)

> and a CMP (complete metabolic profile) and a lipid

> profile and any other

> thing that we are concerned with. My doc is very

> open to me asking for

> specifics, I mean, they are already drawing blood,

> why not satisfy the

> mom by honoring her request!?! Unlike some docs, he

> is very respectful

> of what the mothers on our list have " uncovered. "

> He has never once

> discounted what I've learned from this list (trust

> me, I'm super

> thankful!). My neuro is clueless on bloodwork, he's

> never once even

> asked about bloodwork (since we are off AEDs), he is

> very uneducated on

> the diet.

> Kathy in Tennessee

> Mom to - 6 - Keto kid since 02/00, Med free,

> seizures 95% reduced

> Mom to 'lil sis, a - 3

> " Even to your old age and gray hairs I am He, I am

> He who will sustain

> you. I have made you and I will carry you; I will

> sustain you and I will

> rescue you. "

> Isaiah 46:4

>

>

> On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:54:21 -0700 (PDT) DeEtte

> Person

> writes:

> > Kathy -- What kind of bloodwork do you routinely

> do?

> > This was the type of info I thought I was going to

> get

> > from our blood work (selenium, carnitine, etc.)

> but it

> > didn't have any of that!--D

> >

> > --- myketokid@... wrote:

> > > ,

> > > LOL!!!! Won't tell IZ a thing! continues

> to

> > > do very well. But,

> > > this month, he has had 4 seizures (instead of

> his

> > > monthly 2). I have 2

> > > possible culprits. We decreased his ratio a

> couple

> > > of months ago to

> > > 3.3:1 (from 3.5:1). Well, when I remade the

> meals,

> > > I added some

> > > calories. He hadn't grown at his last Doc's

> visit

> > > and he had been

> > > getting hungry. So, (yes, the cardinal sin) I

> > > increase calories at the

> > > same time that I decreased the ratio. Well,

> then I

> > > added a nut snack a

> > > few weeks ago, when he started school (trying to

> > > coordinate times, etc.).

> > > This is when we've seen the extra seizures.

> They

> > > are still " one at a

> > > time " always in the middle of the night. But, I

> > > really think the calorie

> > > increase is our culprit, so a few days ago I

> > > decreased them a little. If

> > > this doesn't seem to cut them back down, I'll

> look

> > > at raising the ratio

> > > back up. But, I'm gonna give it a couple

> months.

> > > OH, and also, Dh

> > > changed the brands of mac nuts, so my

> calculations

> > > have been off for a

> > > while (less fat), so this also could have done

> some

> > > ketone fluctuating.

> > > You'd think a mac nut is a mac nut, I guess not!

> > > We are scheduled for a " bone densitometry " test

> > > next week (he was

> > > suppose to have it last week, but I forgot and

> gave

> > > him his calcium that

> > > day, so they had to reschedule). I've been a

> little

> > > parnoid about the

> > > osteoporosis thing anyway, but when showed

> no

> > > recent growth, we

> > > REALLY felt we should go ahead with this. Plus,

> > > this will give us a

> > > baseline to compare with over the years (looks

> like

> > > we are in this diet

> > > for life).

> > > His recent bloodwork showed his selenium is low

> -

> > > I'm adding brazil

> > > nuts, and his Vit A is low - I'm adding more

> carrots

> > > to his meals. I'm

> > > trying to avoid adding more supplements. What

> multi

> > > vitamin are you

> > > using (I know I've asked this a million times).

> I

> > > really need to change

> > > from the Bugs, but I've haven't because

> loves

> > > it (he begs for his

> > > vitamin everyday) and until now, all his vitamin

> > > levels have came back

> > > great. Figure this one: his carnitine level

> was

> > > abnormally high - and

> > > we haven't supplemented carnitine in over a

> year. I

> > > thought this diet

> > > was suppose to deplete the carnitine level, who

> > > knows?

> > > Anyway, this is more info than what you asked

> for.

> > > Thanks for your

> > > concern. So glad Jess has made it through 2

> > > " seizure " months. Hope it

> > > continues.

> > > Kathy in Tennessee

> > > Mom to - 6 - Keto kid since 02/00, Med

> free,

> > > seizures 95% reduced

> > > Mom to 'lil sis, a - 3

> > > " Even to your old age and gray hairs I am He, I

> am

> > > He who will sustain

> > > you. I have made you and I will carry you; I

> will

> > > sustain you and I will

> > > rescue you. "

> > > Isaiah 46:4

> > >

> > >

> > > On Wed, 29 Aug 2001 18:57:40 +0000 " m.coole "

> > >

> > > writes:

> > > > myketokid@... wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > > Careful using the word " status " in

> your

> > > posts - my heart

> > > > skipped

> > > > > a beat

> > > > > - thought your were gonna tell us Jess was

> > > having seizures. SO

> > > > GLAD

> > > > > that

> > > > > wasn't the case - so glad you have a good

> > > vacation.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Oh my gosh, sorry this is so old, I saved it

> to

> > > respond to, then

> > > > just

> > > > found it again :)

> > > > Well you're right, never thought of that,

> maybe I

> > > should set my

> > > > puter to

> > > > delete THAT word from the spellcheck and just

> > > refuse to let it be

> > > > typed

> > > > in at all, think it will work? LOL Speakin of

> > > that word, we are

> > > > doing

> > > > good - nothing since Feb and both May and Aug

> are

> > > " those " months so

>

=== message truncated ===

=====

DeEtte -- Mom to (, 6, keto-kid since 1/01, med-free, seizures greatly

reduced) and (, 4), sdale, AZ

" I know God would never give me more than I can handle. . .I just wish he didn't

trust me so much. "

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D,

My doc has to order the vitamins specifically. And seems like the techs

have to take a large vile of blood for each vitamin, so I wouldn't order

them all at the same time. Last time we ordered vit A, E, B6, B12, along

with the other elements I mentioned. They took tons of blood (was I

feeling guilty when they were drawing the blood? Yes!). I wanted

selenium because I had read some kids on the diet are low, and some

centers give this as a suppement ---and then when I looked up the risks

of being deficent (heart problems), I wanted it ran. We found was

low, so now I'm adding brazil nuts to his diet. Bottom line, I want to

head off any problems before they start (just like you do). I hate to

say it, but this is a LIVE and LEARN diet & because we don't have a team,

I try to follow any loose string. Paranoid? Well, yes, a little, but my

paranoia (sp?) pays off some time. And, I didn't ask for the Vit A

analysis ( was low), my doc did. So I'm glad he has insight too.

Bottom line D, take the things you read on the list seriously - encourage

your doc without seeming demanding. (Off the record hint) when you are

asking your doc about something you've read here, phrase it like " I've

read some kids on the diet are getting osteoporosis " instead of " The kids

on my email list....... " Docs will discount it if it is " internet

theology. " We all know that there is a wealth of information here, but

put yourself in the Doc's place. I could see myself rolling my eyes.

But thank the GOOD LORD that this list is here!!!

Kathy in Tennessee

Mom to - 6 - Keto kid since 02/00, Med free, seizures 95% reduced

Mom to 'lil sis, a - 3

" Even to your old age and gray hairs I am He, I am He who will sustain

you. I have made you and I will carry you; I will sustain you and I will

rescue you. "

Isaiah 46:4

On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:11:19 -0700 (PDT) DeEtte Person

writes:

> Kathy -- Thank you. . . not to appear even more

> densse, but can I ask for an across the board

> vitamin/mineral analysis, or do I need to target

> specific nutrients?--D

> --- myketokid@... wrote:

> > D,

> > These vitamin and mineral (and carnitine) levels

> > have to be asked for

> > specifically. Many of them have to be sent off to

> > another lab, so this

> > takes a while. Here's how we do bloodwork: over

> > the course of time, I

> > read and read of what everyone else is ordering,

> > then I let my doc know

> > what I'm reading and worried about. He also adds

> > what he is concerned

> > with and we go from there. Remember, we have no

> > keto team (just me, my

> > pediatrician, and the LORD). My pediatrician has

> > been learning, just as

> > I have. He usually orders a CBC (I think it is a

> > complete blood count)

> > and a CMP (complete metabolic profile) and a lipid

> > profile and any other

> > thing that we are concerned with. My doc is very

> > open to me asking for

> > specifics, I mean, they are already drawing blood,

> > why not satisfy the

> > mom by honoring her request!?! Unlike some docs, he

> > is very respectful

> > of what the mothers on our list have " uncovered. "

> > He has never once

> > discounted what I've learned from this list (trust

> > me, I'm super

> > thankful!). My neuro is clueless on bloodwork, he's

> > never once even

> > asked about bloodwork (since we are off AEDs), he is

> > very uneducated on

> > the diet.

> > Kathy in Tennessee

> > Mom to - 6 - Keto kid since 02/00, Med free,

> > seizures 95% reduced

> > Mom to 'lil sis, a - 3

> > " Even to your old age and gray hairs I am He, I am

> > He who will sustain

> > you. I have made you and I will carry you; I will

> > sustain you and I will

> > rescue you. "

> > Isaiah 46:4

> >

> >

> > On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:54:21 -0700 (PDT) DeEtte

> > Person

> > writes:

> > > Kathy -- What kind of bloodwork do you routinely

> > do?

> > > This was the type of info I thought I was going to

> > get

> > > from our blood work (selenium, carnitine, etc.)

> > but it

> > > didn't have any of that!--D

> > >

> > > --- myketokid@... wrote:

> > > > ,

> > > > LOL!!!! Won't tell IZ a thing! continues

> > to

> > > > do very well. But,

> > > > this month, he has had 4 seizures (instead of

> > his

> > > > monthly 2). I have 2

> > > > possible culprits. We decreased his ratio a

> > couple

> > > > of months ago to

> > > > 3.3:1 (from 3.5:1). Well, when I remade the

> > meals,

> > > > I added some

> > > > calories. He hadn't grown at his last Doc's

> > visit

> > > > and he had been

> > > > getting hungry. So, (yes, the cardinal sin) I

> > > > increase calories at the

> > > > same time that I decreased the ratio. Well,

> > then I

> > > > added a nut snack a

> > > > few weeks ago, when he started school (trying to

> > > > coordinate times, etc.).

> > > > This is when we've seen the extra seizures.

> > They

> > > > are still " one at a

> > > > time " always in the middle of the night. But, I

> > > > really think the calorie

> > > > increase is our culprit, so a few days ago I

> > > > decreased them a little. If

> > > > this doesn't seem to cut them back down, I'll

> > look

> > > > at raising the ratio

> > > > back up. But, I'm gonna give it a couple

> > months.

> > > > OH, and also, Dh

> > > > changed the brands of mac nuts, so my

> > calculations

> > > > have been off for a

> > > > while (less fat), so this also could have done

> > some

> > > > ketone fluctuating.

> > > > You'd think a mac nut is a mac nut, I guess not!

> > > > We are scheduled for a " bone densitometry " test

> > > > next week (he was

> > > > suppose to have it last week, but I forgot and

> > gave

> > > > him his calcium that

> > > > day, so they had to reschedule). I've been a

> > little

> > > > parnoid about the

> > > > osteoporosis thing anyway, but when showed

> > no

> > > > recent growth, we

> > > > REALLY felt we should go ahead with this. Plus,

> > > > this will give us a

> > > > baseline to compare with over the years (looks

> > like

> > > > we are in this diet

> > > > for life).

> > > > His recent bloodwork showed his selenium is low

> > -

> > > > I'm adding brazil

> > > > nuts, and his Vit A is low - I'm adding more

> > carrots

> > > > to his meals. I'm

> > > > trying to avoid adding more supplements. What

> > multi

> > > > vitamin are you

> > > > using (I know I've asked this a million times).

> > I

> > > > really need to change

> > > > from the Bugs, but I've haven't because

> > loves

> > > > it (he begs for his

> > > > vitamin everyday) and until now, all his vitamin

> > > > levels have came back

> > > > great. Figure this one: his carnitine level

> > was

> > > > abnormally high - and

> > > > we haven't supplemented carnitine in over a

> > year. I

> > > > thought this diet

> > > > was suppose to deplete the carnitine level, who

> > > > knows?

> > > > Anyway, this is more info than what you asked

> > for.

> > > > Thanks for your

> > > > concern. So glad Jess has made it through 2

> > > > " seizure " months. Hope it

> > > > continues.

> > > > Kathy in Tennessee

> > > > Mom to - 6 - Keto kid since 02/00, Med

> > free,

> > > > seizures 95% reduced

> > > > Mom to 'lil sis, a - 3

> > > > " Even to your old age and gray hairs I am He, I

> > am

> > > > He who will sustain

> > > > you. I have made you and I will carry you; I

> > will

> > > > sustain you and I will

> > > > rescue you. "

> > > > Isaiah 46:4

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On Wed, 29 Aug 2001 18:57:40 +0000 " m.coole "

> > > >

> > > > writes:

> > > > > myketokid@... wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > ,

> > > > > > Careful using the word " status " in

> > your

> > > > posts - my heart

> > > > > skipped

> > > > > > a beat

> > > > > > - thought your were gonna tell us Jess was

> > > > having seizures. SO

> > > > > GLAD

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > wasn't the case - so glad you have a good

> > > > vacation.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Oh my gosh, sorry this is so old, I saved it

> > to

> > > > respond to, then

> > > > > just

> > > > > found it again :)

> > > > > Well you're right, never thought of that,

> > maybe I

> > > > should set my

> > > > > puter to

> > > > > delete THAT word from the spellcheck and just

> > > > refuse to let it be

> > > > > typed

> > > > > in at all, think it will work? LOL Speakin of

> > > > that word, we are

> > > > > doing

> > > > > good - nothing since Feb and both May and Aug

> > are

> > > > " those " months so

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

>

> =====

> DeEtte -- Mom to (, 6, keto-kid since 1/01, med-free, seizures

> greatly reduced) and (, 4), sdale, AZ

>

> " I know God would never give me more than I can handle. . .I just

> wish he didn't trust me so much. "

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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D,

My doc has to order the vitamins specifically. And seems like the techs

have to take a large vile of blood for each vitamin, so I wouldn't order

them all at the same time. Last time we ordered vit A, E, B6, B12, along

with the other elements I mentioned. They took tons of blood (was I

feeling guilty when they were drawing the blood? Yes!). I wanted

selenium because I had read some kids on the diet are low, and some

centers give this as a suppement ---and then when I looked up the risks

of being deficent (heart problems), I wanted it ran. We found was

low, so now I'm adding brazil nuts to his diet. Bottom line, I want to

head off any problems before they start (just like you do). I hate to

say it, but this is a LIVE and LEARN diet & because we don't have a team,

I try to follow any loose string. Paranoid? Well, yes, a little, but my

paranoia (sp?) pays off some time. And, I didn't ask for the Vit A

analysis ( was low), my doc did. So I'm glad he has insight too.

Bottom line D, take the things you read on the list seriously - encourage

your doc without seeming demanding. (Off the record hint) when you are

asking your doc about something you've read here, phrase it like " I've

read some kids on the diet are getting osteoporosis " instead of " The kids

on my email list....... " Docs will discount it if it is " internet

theology. " We all know that there is a wealth of information here, but

put yourself in the Doc's place. I could see myself rolling my eyes.

But thank the GOOD LORD that this list is here!!!

Kathy in Tennessee

Mom to - 6 - Keto kid since 02/00, Med free, seizures 95% reduced

Mom to 'lil sis, a - 3

" Even to your old age and gray hairs I am He, I am He who will sustain

you. I have made you and I will carry you; I will sustain you and I will

rescue you. "

Isaiah 46:4

On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:11:19 -0700 (PDT) DeEtte Person

writes:

> Kathy -- Thank you. . . not to appear even more

> densse, but can I ask for an across the board

> vitamin/mineral analysis, or do I need to target

> specific nutrients?--D

> --- myketokid@... wrote:

> > D,

> > These vitamin and mineral (and carnitine) levels

> > have to be asked for

> > specifically. Many of them have to be sent off to

> > another lab, so this

> > takes a while. Here's how we do bloodwork: over

> > the course of time, I

> > read and read of what everyone else is ordering,

> > then I let my doc know

> > what I'm reading and worried about. He also adds

> > what he is concerned

> > with and we go from there. Remember, we have no

> > keto team (just me, my

> > pediatrician, and the LORD). My pediatrician has

> > been learning, just as

> > I have. He usually orders a CBC (I think it is a

> > complete blood count)

> > and a CMP (complete metabolic profile) and a lipid

> > profile and any other

> > thing that we are concerned with. My doc is very

> > open to me asking for

> > specifics, I mean, they are already drawing blood,

> > why not satisfy the

> > mom by honoring her request!?! Unlike some docs, he

> > is very respectful

> > of what the mothers on our list have " uncovered. "

> > He has never once

> > discounted what I've learned from this list (trust

> > me, I'm super

> > thankful!). My neuro is clueless on bloodwork, he's

> > never once even

> > asked about bloodwork (since we are off AEDs), he is

> > very uneducated on

> > the diet.

> > Kathy in Tennessee

> > Mom to - 6 - Keto kid since 02/00, Med free,

> > seizures 95% reduced

> > Mom to 'lil sis, a - 3

> > " Even to your old age and gray hairs I am He, I am

> > He who will sustain

> > you. I have made you and I will carry you; I will

> > sustain you and I will

> > rescue you. "

> > Isaiah 46:4

> >

> >

> > On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:54:21 -0700 (PDT) DeEtte

> > Person

> > writes:

> > > Kathy -- What kind of bloodwork do you routinely

> > do?

> > > This was the type of info I thought I was going to

> > get

> > > from our blood work (selenium, carnitine, etc.)

> > but it

> > > didn't have any of that!--D

> > >

> > > --- myketokid@... wrote:

> > > > ,

> > > > LOL!!!! Won't tell IZ a thing! continues

> > to

> > > > do very well. But,

> > > > this month, he has had 4 seizures (instead of

> > his

> > > > monthly 2). I have 2

> > > > possible culprits. We decreased his ratio a

> > couple

> > > > of months ago to

> > > > 3.3:1 (from 3.5:1). Well, when I remade the

> > meals,

> > > > I added some

> > > > calories. He hadn't grown at his last Doc's

> > visit

> > > > and he had been

> > > > getting hungry. So, (yes, the cardinal sin) I

> > > > increase calories at the

> > > > same time that I decreased the ratio. Well,

> > then I

> > > > added a nut snack a

> > > > few weeks ago, when he started school (trying to

> > > > coordinate times, etc.).

> > > > This is when we've seen the extra seizures.

> > They

> > > > are still " one at a

> > > > time " always in the middle of the night. But, I

> > > > really think the calorie

> > > > increase is our culprit, so a few days ago I

> > > > decreased them a little. If

> > > > this doesn't seem to cut them back down, I'll

> > look

> > > > at raising the ratio

> > > > back up. But, I'm gonna give it a couple

> > months.

> > > > OH, and also, Dh

> > > > changed the brands of mac nuts, so my

> > calculations

> > > > have been off for a

> > > > while (less fat), so this also could have done

> > some

> > > > ketone fluctuating.

> > > > You'd think a mac nut is a mac nut, I guess not!

> > > > We are scheduled for a " bone densitometry " test

> > > > next week (he was

> > > > suppose to have it last week, but I forgot and

> > gave

> > > > him his calcium that

> > > > day, so they had to reschedule). I've been a

> > little

> > > > parnoid about the

> > > > osteoporosis thing anyway, but when showed

> > no

> > > > recent growth, we

> > > > REALLY felt we should go ahead with this. Plus,

> > > > this will give us a

> > > > baseline to compare with over the years (looks

> > like

> > > > we are in this diet

> > > > for life).

> > > > His recent bloodwork showed his selenium is low

> > -

> > > > I'm adding brazil

> > > > nuts, and his Vit A is low - I'm adding more

> > carrots

> > > > to his meals. I'm

> > > > trying to avoid adding more supplements. What

> > multi

> > > > vitamin are you

> > > > using (I know I've asked this a million times).

> > I

> > > > really need to change

> > > > from the Bugs, but I've haven't because

> > loves

> > > > it (he begs for his

> > > > vitamin everyday) and until now, all his vitamin

> > > > levels have came back

> > > > great. Figure this one: his carnitine level

> > was

> > > > abnormally high - and

> > > > we haven't supplemented carnitine in over a

> > year. I

> > > > thought this diet

> > > > was suppose to deplete the carnitine level, who

> > > > knows?

> > > > Anyway, this is more info than what you asked

> > for.

> > > > Thanks for your

> > > > concern. So glad Jess has made it through 2

> > > > " seizure " months. Hope it

> > > > continues.

> > > > Kathy in Tennessee

> > > > Mom to - 6 - Keto kid since 02/00, Med

> > free,

> > > > seizures 95% reduced

> > > > Mom to 'lil sis, a - 3

> > > > " Even to your old age and gray hairs I am He, I

> > am

> > > > He who will sustain

> > > > you. I have made you and I will carry you; I

> > will

> > > > sustain you and I will

> > > > rescue you. "

> > > > Isaiah 46:4

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On Wed, 29 Aug 2001 18:57:40 +0000 " m.coole "

> > > >

> > > > writes:

> > > > > myketokid@... wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > ,

> > > > > > Careful using the word " status " in

> > your

> > > > posts - my heart

> > > > > skipped

> > > > > > a beat

> > > > > > - thought your were gonna tell us Jess was

> > > > having seizures. SO

> > > > > GLAD

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > wasn't the case - so glad you have a good

> > > > vacation.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Oh my gosh, sorry this is so old, I saved it

> > to

> > > > respond to, then

> > > > > just

> > > > > found it again :)

> > > > > Well you're right, never thought of that,

> > maybe I

> > > > should set my

> > > > > puter to

> > > > > delete THAT word from the spellcheck and just

> > > > refuse to let it be

> > > > > typed

> > > > > in at all, think it will work? LOL Speakin of

> > > > that word, we are

> > > > > doing

> > > > > good - nothing since Feb and both May and Aug

> > are

> > > > " those " months so

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

>

> =====

> DeEtte -- Mom to (, 6, keto-kid since 1/01, med-free, seizures

> greatly reduced) and (, 4), sdale, AZ

>

> " I know God would never give me more than I can handle. . .I just

> wish he didn't trust me so much. "

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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De and Kathy...

My naturo path has access to labs that can run the vit/mineral

profiles from less blood...the use one sample for the vits and one for

the minerals. My doc was more than willing to order all the test, but

he can only order them individually and there is no prayer that we

would get enough blood from Sev for that! I will have to pay for it

myself, but it's worth it at this point to see what's going on. Nan

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Nan -- Assuming this is Dr. Gruska? Have you done the

testing already? She didn't mention anything about

this to me (and I forgot to ask). I'd like to do the

vitamin/mineral profile and a fatty acid analysis.--D

--- prausa@... wrote:

> De and Kathy...

>

> My naturo path has access to labs that can run the

> vit/mineral

> profiles from less blood...the use one sample for

> the vits and one for

> the minerals. My doc was more than willing to order

> all the test, but

> he can only order them individually and there is no

> prayer that we

> would get enough blood from Sev for that! I will

> have to pay for it

> myself, but it's worth it at this point to see

> what's going on. Nan

>

>

=====

DeEtte -- Mom to (, 6, keto-kid since 1/01, med-free, seizures greatly

reduced) and (, 4), sdale, AZ

" I know God would never give me more than I can handle. . .I just wish he didn't

trust me so much. "

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Nan -- Assuming this is Dr. Gruska? Have you done the

testing already? She didn't mention anything about

this to me (and I forgot to ask). I'd like to do the

vitamin/mineral profile and a fatty acid analysis.--D

--- prausa@... wrote:

> De and Kathy...

>

> My naturo path has access to labs that can run the

> vit/mineral

> profiles from less blood...the use one sample for

> the vits and one for

> the minerals. My doc was more than willing to order

> all the test, but

> he can only order them individually and there is no

> prayer that we

> would get enough blood from Sev for that! I will

> have to pay for it

> myself, but it's worth it at this point to see

> what's going on. Nan

>

>

=====

DeEtte -- Mom to (, 6, keto-kid since 1/01, med-free, seizures greatly

reduced) and (, 4), sdale, AZ

" I know God would never give me more than I can handle. . .I just wish he didn't

trust me so much. "

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De...

Yes, it's doc G...she had mentioned this to me when I had my visit,

but I wanted to do as much as I could through Dr. F (ped) so insurance

would cover it. You can just call and tell her you were talking to me

(I mentioned we were internet pals) and that you'd be interested in

the vit/mineral profile. I think it was less that $150 maybe???? The

hair analysis was around $50 and I think the fatty acid analysis wa

about $150-200???? I'm really interested in seeing this through, so

I'm just going to do it! Nan

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Actually talked to her about an hour ago. She

recommended the same thing -- that I talk to our

family practitioner to see if she could prescribe and

help me with insurance. I think she probably will.

I'm really interested, too!--D

--- prausa@... wrote:

> De...

>

> Yes, it's doc G...she had mentioned this to me when

> I had my visit,

> but I wanted to do as much as I could through Dr. F

> (ped) so insurance

> would cover it. You can just call and tell her you

> were talking to me

> (I mentioned we were internet pals) and that you'd

> be interested in

> the vit/mineral profile. I think it was less that

> $150 maybe???? The

> hair analysis was around $50 and I think the fatty

> acid analysis wa

> about $150-200???? I'm really interested in seeing

> this through, so

> I'm just going to do it! Nan

>

>

=====

DeEtte -- Mom to (, 6, keto-kid since 1/01, med-free, seizures greatly

reduced) and (, 4), sdale, AZ

" I know God would never give me more than I can handle. . .I just wish he didn't

trust me so much. "

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Kathy,

Wow! what a wonderful Paed ! You are so lucky to have him.

Hope you are seeing results with the decrease in cals etc.

Saro....Rohan's mum

myketokid@... wrote:

D,

Unlike some docs, he is very respectful

of what the mothers on our list have "uncovered." He has

never once

discounted what I've learned from this list (trust me, I'm super

thankful!).

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