Re: Immune System and Yeast

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeannine,

I haven't really been following the latest discussions on immune system. However, I have a long history of yeast problems. I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia 10years ago. There is a definite connection between yeast and all of my fibro symptoms. Things that I do to lower yeast levels without meds are:

take acidophillus capsules

stay away from yeasty foods (especially bread)

stay away from sugar (it feeds the yeast beast)

There is also a large amount of medical research that suggests that sugar causes immune problems. It has been shown to activate parts of your immune system (Natural Killer cells) for hours after it has been ingested even in very small doses.

I hope this helps and I hope you find a new doctor,

Terri

Can anyone help me ???

My son is 2 and has autism… I am new to this group and just starting to learn about the diet and the supplements… I took him to the immune doctor because he has been sick for the past 9 months constantly and on antibiotics every single month and it came back that his immune system is horrible – really bad and they want to start giving him vaccines and I am so scared because I am convinced that it was the vaccines that caused us to be in this situation in the first place… they want to give him vaccines for a few months in a row to build up the immune system –it might not even work but they said it’s the only “ cure†for this …. I am so upset, I don’t want to do this ….I do not want to put another vaccine into his body…. I truly believe that the MMR vaccine caused his autism !!!

I want to do a more natural approach to try first but the pediatrician is not supportive and told me that the internet is no place to get answers and that diet and supplements do not work… I have been crying for the past 5 hours over this because he said if we don’t do the vaccines soon he could catch a virus and it could be fatal because the immune system is that bad…. I asked him about testing for yeast because he’s been on antibiotics for the past 9 months and he said NO and that I was crazy and to stop reading things on the internet… I was really amazed at how unresponsive he was to anything I had to say about my son’s health !!! I know that my son has yeast problems… besides the horrible behavior, hyperness, aggression and constant stimming – he also has a white coated tongue and a foul smell that never goes away from his breath…. Do you have any suggestions on what I can do on my own to at least try to build his immune system and also get rid of the yeast ??? The closest DAN doctor wants $ 600 cash for a one hour consultation…. Yikes – we can’t afford that right now and I am desperate for help… someone mentioned a chiropractor or acupuncture – has anyone had success with these ? Any help you could send my way would be so much appreciated !! I don’t know where to start or what supplements to buy… I tried going casein free and saw some good results… have not gone gluten free yet though… Does anyone know of a good web site that can list foods that are safe for yeast problems ?

Thanks

Jeannine in Florida

JM8031bellsouth (DOT) net

Terri Jennings, Ph.D.Healing Hooves Psychotherapy, Inc.3500 Peaceful Ridge RoadDavie, Florida 33330www.healinghoovesinc.comMister B and Friends, Inc.www.MisterBandFriends.comSocial Science and Research Consultantswww.socialscienceandresearch.comSee what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeannine,

I haven't really been following the latest discussions on immune system. However, I have a long history of yeast problems. I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia 10years ago. There is a definite connection between yeast and all of my fibro symptoms. Things that I do to lower yeast levels without meds are:

take acidophillus capsules

stay away from yeasty foods (especially bread)

stay away from sugar (it feeds the yeast beast)

There is also a large amount of medical research that suggests that sugar causes immune problems. It has been shown to activate parts of your immune system (Natural Killer cells) for hours after it has been ingested even in very small doses.

I hope this helps and I hope you find a new doctor,

Terri

Can anyone help me ???

My son is 2 and has autism… I am new to this group and just starting to learn about the diet and the supplements… I took him to the immune doctor because he has been sick for the past 9 months constantly and on antibiotics every single month and it came back that his immune system is horrible – really bad and they want to start giving him vaccines and I am so scared because I am convinced that it was the vaccines that caused us to be in this situation in the first place… they want to give him vaccines for a few months in a row to build up the immune system –it might not even work but they said it’s the only “ cure†for this …. I am so upset, I don’t want to do this ….I do not want to put another vaccine into his body…. I truly believe that the MMR vaccine caused his autism !!!

I want to do a more natural approach to try first but the pediatrician is not supportive and told me that the internet is no place to get answers and that diet and supplements do not work… I have been crying for the past 5 hours over this because he said if we don’t do the vaccines soon he could catch a virus and it could be fatal because the immune system is that bad…. I asked him about testing for yeast because he’s been on antibiotics for the past 9 months and he said NO and that I was crazy and to stop reading things on the internet… I was really amazed at how unresponsive he was to anything I had to say about my son’s health !!! I know that my son has yeast problems… besides the horrible behavior, hyperness, aggression and constant stimming – he also has a white coated tongue and a foul smell that never goes away from his breath…. Do you have any suggestions on what I can do on my own to at least try to build his immune system and also get rid of the yeast ??? The closest DAN doctor wants $ 600 cash for a one hour consultation…. Yikes – we can’t afford that right now and I am desperate for help… someone mentioned a chiropractor or acupuncture – has anyone had success with these ? Any help you could send my way would be so much appreciated !! I don’t know where to start or what supplements to buy… I tried going casein free and saw some good results… have not gone gluten free yet though… Does anyone know of a good web site that can list foods that are safe for yeast problems ?

Thanks

Jeannine in Florida

JM8031bellsouth (DOT) net

Terri Jennings, Ph.D.Healing Hooves Psychotherapy, Inc.3500 Peaceful Ridge RoadDavie, Florida 33330www.healinghoovesinc.comMister B and Friends, Inc.www.MisterBandFriends.comSocial Science and Research Consultantswww.socialscienceandresearch.comSee what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.

[Guest guest]

Can anyone help me ???

My son is 2 and has autism… I am new to this group and just starting to learn about the diet and the supplements… I took him to the immune doctor because he has been sick for the past 9 months constantly and on antibiotics every single month and it came back that his immune system is horrible – really bad and they want to start giving him vaccines and I am so scared because I am convinced that it was the vaccines that caused us to be in this situation in the first place… they want to give him vaccines for a few months in a row to build up the immune system –it might not even work but they said it’s the only “ cure†for this …. I am so upset, I don’t want to do this ….I do not want to put another vaccine into his body…. I truly believe that the MMR vaccine caused his autism !!!

I want to do a more natural approach to try first but the pediatrician is not supportive and told me that the internet is no place to get answers and that diet and supplements do not work… I have been crying for the past 5 hours over this because he said if we don’t do the vaccines soon he could catch a virus and it could be fatal because the immune system is that bad…. I asked him about testing for yeast because he’s been on antibiotics for the past 9 months and he said NO and that I was crazy and to stop reading things on the internet… I was really amazed at how unresponsive he was to anything I had to say about my son’s health !!! I know that my son has yeast problems… besides the horrible behavior, hyperness, aggression and constant stimming – he also has a white coated tongue and a foul smell that never goes away from his breath…. Do you have any suggestions on what I can do on my own to at least try to build his immune system and also get rid of the yeast ??? The closest DAN doctor wants $ 600 cash for a one hour consultation…. Yikes – we can’t afford that right now and I am desperate for help… someone mentioned a chiropractor or acupuncture – has anyone had success with these ? Any help you could send my way would be so much appreciated !! I don’t know where to start or what supplements to buy… I tried going casein free and saw some good results… have not gone gluten free yet though… Does anyone know of a good web site that can list foods that are safe for yeast problems ?

Thanks

Jeannine in Florida

JM8031bellsouth (DOT) net

Hi Jeannine. I'm sorry but I will go on the record saying that almost all doctors are trained within AMA guidelines...not in anything alternative or homeopathic. Anecdotal evidence from other parents support the finding that these things work. Maybe not for all kids or to the same degree...for some, not at all. Each kid is an individual. It sounds to me like your doctor is bullying you...his way or the highway. Don't go against your gut instinct. If it tells you don't listen, then don't. My DAN doctor suggested I put him on the GFCF diet to start. If you've already removed the casein you just need to remove the gluten. Not so easy (or cheap) to do, but once you get the hang of it, it gets much easier. Contact me off list and I will help give you information to get started.

Robin LevineIntake CoordinatorFamily Network on Disabilities100 South s AvenueFt. Lauderdale, FL 33301office fax 1-See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.

[Guest guest]

Can anyone help me ???

My son is 2 and has autism… I am new to this group and just starting to learn about the diet and the supplements… I took him to the immune doctor because he has been sick for the past 9 months constantly and on antibiotics every single month and it came back that his immune system is horrible – really bad and they want to start giving him vaccines and I am so scared because I am convinced that it was the vaccines that caused us to be in this situation in the first place… they want to give him vaccines for a few months in a row to build up the immune system –it might not even work but they said it’s the only “ cure†for this …. I am so upset, I don’t want to do this ….I do not want to put another vaccine into his body…. I truly believe that the MMR vaccine caused his autism !!!

I want to do a more natural approach to try first but the pediatrician is not supportive and told me that the internet is no place to get answers and that diet and supplements do not work… I have been crying for the past 5 hours over this because he said if we don’t do the vaccines soon he could catch a virus and it could be fatal because the immune system is that bad…. I asked him about testing for yeast because he’s been on antibiotics for the past 9 months and he said NO and that I was crazy and to stop reading things on the internet… I was really amazed at how unresponsive he was to anything I had to say about my son’s health !!! I know that my son has yeast problems… besides the horrible behavior, hyperness, aggression and constant stimming – he also has a white coated tongue and a foul smell that never goes away from his breath…. Do you have any suggestions on what I can do on my own to at least try to build his immune system and also get rid of the yeast ??? The closest DAN doctor wants $ 600 cash for a one hour consultation…. Yikes – we can’t afford that right now and I am desperate for help… someone mentioned a chiropractor or acupuncture – has anyone had success with these ? Any help you could send my way would be so much appreciated !! I don’t know where to start or what supplements to buy… I tried going casein free and saw some good results… have not gone gluten free yet though… Does anyone know of a good web site that can list foods that are safe for yeast problems ?

Thanks

Jeannine in Florida

JM8031bellsouth (DOT) net

Hi Jeannine. I'm sorry but I will go on the record saying that almost all doctors are trained within AMA guidelines...not in anything alternative or homeopathic. Anecdotal evidence from other parents support the finding that these things work. Maybe not for all kids or to the same degree...for some, not at all. Each kid is an individual. It sounds to me like your doctor is bullying you...his way or the highway. Don't go against your gut instinct. If it tells you don't listen, then don't. My DAN doctor suggested I put him on the GFCF diet to start. If you've already removed the casein you just need to remove the gluten. Not so easy (or cheap) to do, but once you get the hang of it, it gets much easier. Contact me off list and I will help give you information to get started.

Robin LevineIntake CoordinatorFamily Network on Disabilities100 South s AvenueFt. Lauderdale, FL 33301office fax 1-See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeannine,

I'm sorry to read of your problems, but you are not alone. I have a

much older daughter, but we've been there with the antibiotics.

Whenever she would get sick, putting her on antibiotics created more

and different problems. When she had to have an extended dose of very

strong antibiotics for an allergic reaction to an insect bite or

something, she kept getting infections and her whole system broke down.

My husband is a doctor [ophthalmologist and now has an MS in Nutrition

Science] and it was very frustrating because the other doctors were

useless and did not know what was going on. Someone finally suggested

yeast as a possibility.

We followed the suggestions from the yeast connection -

http://www.yeastconnection.com/fighting.html.

I also have these bookmarked, but I don't remember if I followed it:

http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/BOOK/bk10sect2.html; and

http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/BOOK/bk10sect1.html

The Yeast Connection diet was a major help Interestingly,. my daughter

loved cantaloupe, and cantaloupe is one of the worst offenders on the

yeast-causing list. She was also on Diflucan, which my husband says is

not for a 2 year old. We are very big proponents of nutrition and

special diets. My daughter was GF/CF before the yeast, so going yeast

free wasn't too difficult for us. My daughter occasionally gets

relapses [don't know if the insect bite permanently affected her immune

system], but it's minor and relatively easy to turn it around.

My husband's recommendations:

1. Find a different pediatrician. [sorry, we can't recommend a doctor

because we haven't found supportive and understanding doctors either!]

2. Follow a Yeast-free diet, which is safe to do

3. Go GF/CF, if you haven't done so already.

4. Check out the Dan website. You don't need an Rx to follow many of

their recommendations.

5. There are medications for yeast for a 2 year old [maybe Nystatin],

but you would need a doctor's prescription.

6. The supplements Lauricidin and Oil of Oregano are helpful for yeast

and can be purchased in a health food store.

If you have other questions, feel free to contact my husband Lowell at:

Lowell@...

I hope some of these suggestions are helpful. Good luck!

Meryl

Jeannine wrote:

Can anyone help me ???

My son is 2 and has autism… I am

new to this group and just starting to learn about the diet and the

supplements… I took him to the immune doctor because he has been sick

for

the past 9 months constantly and on antibiotics every single month and

it came

back that his immune system is horrible – really bad and they want to

start giving him vaccines and I am so scared because I am convinced

that it was

the vaccines that caused us to be in this situation in the first place…

they want to give him vaccines for a few months in a row to build up

the immune

system –it might not even work but they said it’s the only “

cure” for this …. I am so upset, I don’t want to do

this ….I do not want to put another vaccine into his body…. I truly

believe that the MMR vaccine caused his autism !!!

I want to do a more natural approach to try first but the

pediatrician is not supportive and told me that the internet is no

place to get

answers and that diet and supplements do not work… I have been crying

for

the past 5 hours over this because he said if we don’t do the vaccines

soon he could catch a virus and it could be fatal because the immune

system is

that bad…. I asked him about testing for yeast because he’s been on

antibiotics for the past 9 months and he said NO and that I was crazy

and to

stop reading things on the internet… I was really amazed at how

unresponsive he was to anything I had to say about my son’s health

!!! I know that my son has yeast problems… besides the horrible

behavior, hyperness, aggression and constant stimming – he also has a

white coated tongue and a foul smell that never goes away from his

breath…. Do you have any suggestions on what I can do on my own to

at least try to build his immune system and also get rid of the yeast

???

The closest DAN doctor wants $ 600 cash for a one hour consultation….

Yikes – we can’t afford that right now and I am desperate for

help… someone mentioned a chiropractor or acupuncture – has anyone

had success with these ? Any help you could send my way would be so

much

appreciated !! I don’t know where to start or what

supplements to

buy… I tried going casein free and saw some good results… have not

gone gluten free yet though… Does anyone know of a good web site that

can

list foods that are safe for yeast problems ?

Thanks

Jeannine in Florida

JM8031bellsouth (DOT) net

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeannine, Even if you can not afford for sometime to take your child to a DAN doctor, I would RUN AWAY fast from your current pediatrician. A doctor that will not listen to your concerns, who will not take your fears and concerns seriously, should not lay a hand on your child ever again. I have had my share of experiences with pediatricians like that and so I really feel for you. I would be just as concerned and afraid as you are! Talk to your insurance and ask them if they would cover a second opinion visit. I would go for a second and third opinion. We visited a DAN Doctor in Miami recently. He charges $440 per first time visit (an hour). He also lists on his website other doctors that can provide follow up when he is not around. I talked to one of them and she charges $225 for first time visits and $85 for follow ups. I explained my financial situation and asked if she could recommend a

non-holistic doctor in my area that would take insurance but be open to natural medicine/alternative medicine. To my surprise she had no problem doing so! I think I will be combining the care of a sympathetic "conventional" pediatrician that will respect the DAN protocol I want to follow. It's what my budget can afford right now and it is better than hitting my head against the wall trying to deal with my son's current pediatrician--a waste of time and very upsetting. My point is that if you try calling doctors around you might get lucky and find out someone in your area that will be better than the doctor you are seeing now. Best of luck, Ida RLisme1@... wrote: In a message dated 10/24/2007 11:24:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, JM8031bellsouth (DOT) net writes: Can anyone help me ??? My son is 2 and

has autism… I am new to this group and just starting to learn about the diet and the supplements… I took him to the immune doctor because he has been sick for the past 9 months constantly and on antibiotics every single month and it came back that his immune system is horrible – really bad and they want to start giving him vaccines and I am so scared because I am convinced that it was the vaccines that caused us to be in this situation in the first place… they want to give him vaccines for a few months in a row to build up the immune system –it might not even work but they said it’s the only “ cure†for this …. I am so upset, I don’t want to do this ….I do not want to put another vaccine into his body…. I truly believe that the MMR vaccine caused his autism !!! I want to do a more natural approach to try first but the pediatrician is not supportive

and told me that the internet is no place to get answers and that diet and supplements do not work… I have been crying for the past 5 hours over this because he said if we don’t do the vaccines soon he could catch a virus and it could be fatal because the immune system is that bad…. I asked him about testing for yeast because he’s been on antibiotics for the past 9 months and he said NO and that I was crazy and to stop reading things on the internet… I was really amazed at how unresponsive he was to anything I had to say about my son’s health !!! I know that my son has yeast problems… besides the horrible behavior, hyperness, aggression and constant stimming – he also has a white coated tongue and a foul smell that never goes away from his breath…. Do you have any suggestions on what I can do on my own to at least try to build his immune system and also get rid of the yeast ??? The closest DAN doctor wants $ 600 cash for a one hour

consultation…. Yikes – we can’t afford that right now and I am desperate for help… someone mentioned a chiropractor or acupuncture – has anyone had success with these ? Any help you could send my way would be so much appreciated !! I don’t know where to start or what supplements to buy… I tried going casein free and saw some good results… have not gone gluten free yet though… Does anyone know of a good web site that can list foods that are safe for yeast problems ? Thanks Jeannine in Florida JM8031bellsouth (DOT) net Hi Jeannine. I'm sorry but I will go on the record saying that almost all doctors are trained within AMA guidelines...not in anything alternative or homeopathic. Anecdotal evidence from other parents support the finding that these things work. Maybe not for all kids or to the same degree...for some, not at all. Each kid is an individual. It sounds to me like your doctor is bullying you...his way or the highway. Don't go against your gut instinct. If it tells you don't listen, then don't. My DAN doctor suggested I put him on the GFCF diet to start. If you've already removed the casein you just need to remove the gluten. Not so easy (or cheap) to do, but once you get the hang of it, it gets much easier. Contact me off list and I will help give you information to get started. Robin LevineIntake CoordinatorFamily Network on Disabilities100 South s AvenueFt. Lauderdale, FL 33301office fax 1- See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I've been reading old posts and am wondering how your son is doing now? What have you done since Oct?

I'm wondering especially because my son has immune issues, I'm getting him tested for myelin basic protein antibodies hopefully tomorrow.

Diane

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