Guest guest Posted August 14, 1999 Report Share Posted August 14, 1999 rashley@... wrote: > > , > > Actually it would be appropriate for the times as long as above the > caption, pass it on was a picture of an enormous roll of toilet paper. > > RICHARD, WHAT AN IMAGE! BUT FRANKLY, I THINK THEY SHOULD ALL BE IN DIAPERS SINCE IT IS CLEAR THAT THEY ARE POWERLESS OVER THEIR BODILY FUNCTIONS. JOHN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 1999 Report Share Posted August 14, 1999 rashley@... wrote: > > , > > Actually it would be appropriate for the times as long as above the > caption, pass it on was a picture of an enormous roll of toilet paper. > > RICHARD, WHAT AN IMAGE! BUT FRANKLY, I THINK THEY SHOULD ALL BE IN DIAPERS SINCE IT IS CLEAR THAT THEY ARE POWERLESS OVER THEIR BODILY FUNCTIONS. JOHN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 1999 Report Share Posted August 14, 1999 AppleDTP@... wrote: > > , I had no idea you held the position of officer!! Oh.. what have > we done... Apple, Allow me to clarify. Firstly, It was a battlefield commission of the worst order. I was nominated for that insipid position by my best friend in AA who thought he was being funny. It was also a veiled attempt to draw me back into the fold as it was becoming obvious that my interest was waning. I figured what the hell, and being unskilled at turning down an AA request, took the post which was actually only an alternate GSR. It was kind of a last ditch effort at cozying up to AA. I'm not fond of committees in the first place, but this GSR thing was worse than Dental Surgery. Sitting around a table with a bunch of boring control freaks trying to determine whether the H & I can should be passed before or after meetings does not exactly make for scintillating conversation. At the end of the evening I was on the verge of catatonia. If I had had the strength, I would have run screaming from the room. My friend really did me a great service. By exposing me to such oppressive banality, he was actually handing me a " get out of AA free card. " Remember I was dealing with Alcoholics Anonymous--cunning baffling, powerful! Without help it is too much for us. Half measures would avail me nothing. I stood at the turning point. I rejected their program with complete abandon. Need I mention, I committed the ultimate sin and resigned my commission at the Thursday speaker meeting. I was trotted up in front of the 250 attending that night after the Birthdays had been celebrated. Then secretary of the meeting tore off my " Anytime/Anywhere 60th. International Convention " T-Shirt, confiscated my 9-year brass token, and proceeded to pour a cup of hot coffee down my trousers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 1999 Report Share Posted August 14, 1999 AppleDTP@... wrote: > > , I had no idea you held the position of officer!! Oh.. what have > we done... Apple, Allow me to clarify. Firstly, It was a battlefield commission of the worst order. I was nominated for that insipid position by my best friend in AA who thought he was being funny. It was also a veiled attempt to draw me back into the fold as it was becoming obvious that my interest was waning. I figured what the hell, and being unskilled at turning down an AA request, took the post which was actually only an alternate GSR. It was kind of a last ditch effort at cozying up to AA. I'm not fond of committees in the first place, but this GSR thing was worse than Dental Surgery. Sitting around a table with a bunch of boring control freaks trying to determine whether the H & I can should be passed before or after meetings does not exactly make for scintillating conversation. At the end of the evening I was on the verge of catatonia. If I had had the strength, I would have run screaming from the room. My friend really did me a great service. By exposing me to such oppressive banality, he was actually handing me a " get out of AA free card. " Remember I was dealing with Alcoholics Anonymous--cunning baffling, powerful! Without help it is too much for us. Half measures would avail me nothing. I stood at the turning point. I rejected their program with complete abandon. Need I mention, I committed the ultimate sin and resigned my commission at the Thursday speaker meeting. I was trotted up in front of the 250 attending that night after the Birthdays had been celebrated. Then secretary of the meeting tore off my " Anytime/Anywhere 60th. International Convention " T-Shirt, confiscated my 9-year brass token, and proceeded to pour a cup of hot coffee down my trousers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 1999 Report Share Posted August 14, 1999 AppleDTP@... wrote: > > , I had no idea you held the position of officer!! Oh.. what have > we done... Apple, Allow me to clarify. Firstly, It was a battlefield commission of the worst order. I was nominated for that insipid position by my best friend in AA who thought he was being funny. It was also a veiled attempt to draw me back into the fold as it was becoming obvious that my interest was waning. I figured what the hell, and being unskilled at turning down an AA request, took the post which was actually only an alternate GSR. It was kind of a last ditch effort at cozying up to AA. I'm not fond of committees in the first place, but this GSR thing was worse than Dental Surgery. Sitting around a table with a bunch of boring control freaks trying to determine whether the H & I can should be passed before or after meetings does not exactly make for scintillating conversation. At the end of the evening I was on the verge of catatonia. If I had had the strength, I would have run screaming from the room. My friend really did me a great service. By exposing me to such oppressive banality, he was actually handing me a " get out of AA free card. " Remember I was dealing with Alcoholics Anonymous--cunning baffling, powerful! Without help it is too much for us. Half measures would avail me nothing. I stood at the turning point. I rejected their program with complete abandon. Need I mention, I committed the ultimate sin and resigned my commission at the Thursday speaker meeting. I was trotted up in front of the 250 attending that night after the Birthdays had been celebrated. Then secretary of the meeting tore off my " Anytime/Anywhere 60th. International Convention " T-Shirt, confiscated my 9-year brass token, and proceeded to pour a cup of hot coffee down my trousers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 1999 Report Share Posted August 14, 1999 Apple: I remember the early days in A.A. when I would sit around at their tables and think. I wondered to myself how it was that I got myself in such a ragged position that caused me to end up in their midst. Sure, I had a drinking problem and yes I was out of control with that behavior but now I had to " surrender " (suggested) my will and my life over to the care of a god. I sat and listened to all the war stories and general dysfunction in their lives in a cloud of cigarette smoke again saying to myself, " have I really reached this horrible level in my life " , " am I like these people? " Today I have fortunately discovered that I am not the " duck " in the middle. I have the power to change my bad habits if I choose and I can show my humaness by making mistakes. Why is it that, in N.A., they profoundly profess to be free from drugs cite years of " clean time " and then step out the door and light up a cigarette. What is this suggesting to the young peope that come to these meetings? What is the purpose of steppism anyway? I challenged a person on this issue and an N.A. wanna be guru stepped in and said to the gentleman I was speaking with " you can't argue with ignorance " meaning I was ignorant on the issue. Shit, I used to smoke for 25 years!! Just a few thoughts, Re: 's challenge > , I had no idea you held the position of officer!! Oh.. what have > we done... I propose a change to the name for the millenium > convention... > > " Pass it Over in the 21st Century " What do you think? > > or " Please Pass the Potatoes in the 21st Century " At least potatoes > have nutritional value... > Apple > > > > I just got some AA stuff in the mail since I used to be GSR. The > > International is in Minneapolis June 29-July 2, 2000. Theme: " Pass It > > On-Into the 21st. Century. " > > A chilling idea isn't it. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Click here for 4 FREE TRIAL ISSUES of Sports Illustrated! If you're > satisfied, your subscription will continue at the guaranteed lowest rate > of $.75 an issue for 52 issues! http://clickhere./click/678 > > > eGroups.com home: /group/12-step-free > - Simplifying group communications > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 1999 Report Share Posted August 14, 1999 Apple: I remember the early days in A.A. when I would sit around at their tables and think. I wondered to myself how it was that I got myself in such a ragged position that caused me to end up in their midst. Sure, I had a drinking problem and yes I was out of control with that behavior but now I had to " surrender " (suggested) my will and my life over to the care of a god. I sat and listened to all the war stories and general dysfunction in their lives in a cloud of cigarette smoke again saying to myself, " have I really reached this horrible level in my life " , " am I like these people? " Today I have fortunately discovered that I am not the " duck " in the middle. I have the power to change my bad habits if I choose and I can show my humaness by making mistakes. Why is it that, in N.A., they profoundly profess to be free from drugs cite years of " clean time " and then step out the door and light up a cigarette. What is this suggesting to the young peope that come to these meetings? What is the purpose of steppism anyway? I challenged a person on this issue and an N.A. wanna be guru stepped in and said to the gentleman I was speaking with " you can't argue with ignorance " meaning I was ignorant on the issue. Shit, I used to smoke for 25 years!! Just a few thoughts, Re: 's challenge > , I had no idea you held the position of officer!! Oh.. what have > we done... I propose a change to the name for the millenium > convention... > > " Pass it Over in the 21st Century " What do you think? > > or " Please Pass the Potatoes in the 21st Century " At least potatoes > have nutritional value... > Apple > > > > I just got some AA stuff in the mail since I used to be GSR. The > > International is in Minneapolis June 29-July 2, 2000. Theme: " Pass It > > On-Into the 21st. Century. " > > A chilling idea isn't it. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Click here for 4 FREE TRIAL ISSUES of Sports Illustrated! If you're > satisfied, your subscription will continue at the guaranteed lowest rate > of $.75 an issue for 52 issues! http://clickhere./click/678 > > > eGroups.com home: /group/12-step-free > - Simplifying group communications > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 1999 Report Share Posted August 14, 1999 Apple: I remember the early days in A.A. when I would sit around at their tables and think. I wondered to myself how it was that I got myself in such a ragged position that caused me to end up in their midst. Sure, I had a drinking problem and yes I was out of control with that behavior but now I had to " surrender " (suggested) my will and my life over to the care of a god. I sat and listened to all the war stories and general dysfunction in their lives in a cloud of cigarette smoke again saying to myself, " have I really reached this horrible level in my life " , " am I like these people? " Today I have fortunately discovered that I am not the " duck " in the middle. I have the power to change my bad habits if I choose and I can show my humaness by making mistakes. Why is it that, in N.A., they profoundly profess to be free from drugs cite years of " clean time " and then step out the door and light up a cigarette. What is this suggesting to the young peope that come to these meetings? What is the purpose of steppism anyway? I challenged a person on this issue and an N.A. wanna be guru stepped in and said to the gentleman I was speaking with " you can't argue with ignorance " meaning I was ignorant on the issue. Shit, I used to smoke for 25 years!! Just a few thoughts, Re: 's challenge > , I had no idea you held the position of officer!! Oh.. what have > we done... I propose a change to the name for the millenium > convention... > > " Pass it Over in the 21st Century " What do you think? > > or " Please Pass the Potatoes in the 21st Century " At least potatoes > have nutritional value... > Apple > > > > I just got some AA stuff in the mail since I used to be GSR. The > > International is in Minneapolis June 29-July 2, 2000. Theme: " Pass It > > On-Into the 21st. Century. " > > A chilling idea isn't it. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Click here for 4 FREE TRIAL ISSUES of Sports Illustrated! If you're > satisfied, your subscription will continue at the guaranteed lowest rate > of $.75 an issue for 52 issues! http://clickhere./click/678 > > > eGroups.com home: /group/12-step-free > - Simplifying group communications > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 1999 Report Share Posted August 14, 1999 Hi : Yeah, the smoking thing got me too... I quit a few years ago, although I really enjoy a nice cigar once in a while. I remember having the " have I really sunk to this " feeling, and once I asked some people from my home group to pose outside the clubhouse and I took a picture... then I compared that photo to pictures of my drinking friends. All of my drinking friends looked healthier. Most of them are successful today, and they were worse drinkers than I was, but somehow they grew out of it. Apple > > I remember the early days in A.A. when I would sit around at their tables > and think. I wondered to myself how it was that I got myself in such a > ragged position that caused me to end up in their midst. Sure, I had a > drinking problem and yes I was out of control with that behavior but now I > had to " surrender " (suggested) my will and my life over to the care of a > god. I sat and listened to all the war stories and general dysfunction in > their lives in a cloud of cigarette smoke again saying to myself, " have I > really reached this horrible level in my life " , " am I like these people? " > Today I have fortunately discovered that I am not the " duck " in the middle. > I have the power to change my bad habits if I choose and I can show my > humaness by making mistakes. > > Why is it that, in N.A., they profoundly profess to be free from drugs cite > years of " clean time " and then step out the door and light up a cigarette. > What is this suggesting to the young peope that come to these meetings? > What is the purpose of steppism anyway? I challenged a person on this issue > and an N.A. wanna be guru stepped in and said to the gentleman I was > speaking with " you can't argue with ignorance " meaning I was ignorant on the > issue. Shit, I used to smoke for 25 years!! > > Just a few thoughts, > > > Re: 's challenge > > > > , I had no idea you held the position of officer!! Oh.. what have > > we done... I propose a change to the name for the millenium > > convention... > > > > " Pass it Over in the 21st Century " What do you think? > > > > or " Please Pass the Potatoes in the 21st Century " At least potatoes > > have nutritional value... > > Apple > > > > > > > I just got some AA stuff in the mail since I used to be GSR. The > > > International is in Minneapolis June 29-July 2, 2000. Theme: " Pass It > > > On-Into the 21st. Century. " > > > A chilling idea isn't it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 1999 Report Share Posted August 14, 1999 Hi : Yeah, the smoking thing got me too... I quit a few years ago, although I really enjoy a nice cigar once in a while. I remember having the " have I really sunk to this " feeling, and once I asked some people from my home group to pose outside the clubhouse and I took a picture... then I compared that photo to pictures of my drinking friends. All of my drinking friends looked healthier. Most of them are successful today, and they were worse drinkers than I was, but somehow they grew out of it. Apple > > I remember the early days in A.A. when I would sit around at their tables > and think. I wondered to myself how it was that I got myself in such a > ragged position that caused me to end up in their midst. Sure, I had a > drinking problem and yes I was out of control with that behavior but now I > had to " surrender " (suggested) my will and my life over to the care of a > god. I sat and listened to all the war stories and general dysfunction in > their lives in a cloud of cigarette smoke again saying to myself, " have I > really reached this horrible level in my life " , " am I like these people? " > Today I have fortunately discovered that I am not the " duck " in the middle. > I have the power to change my bad habits if I choose and I can show my > humaness by making mistakes. > > Why is it that, in N.A., they profoundly profess to be free from drugs cite > years of " clean time " and then step out the door and light up a cigarette. > What is this suggesting to the young peope that come to these meetings? > What is the purpose of steppism anyway? I challenged a person on this issue > and an N.A. wanna be guru stepped in and said to the gentleman I was > speaking with " you can't argue with ignorance " meaning I was ignorant on the > issue. Shit, I used to smoke for 25 years!! > > Just a few thoughts, > > > Re: 's challenge > > > > , I had no idea you held the position of officer!! Oh.. what have > > we done... I propose a change to the name for the millenium > > convention... > > > > " Pass it Over in the 21st Century " What do you think? > > > > or " Please Pass the Potatoes in the 21st Century " At least potatoes > > have nutritional value... > > Apple > > > > > > > I just got some AA stuff in the mail since I used to be GSR. The > > > International is in Minneapolis June 29-July 2, 2000. Theme: " Pass It > > > On-Into the 21st. Century. " > > > A chilling idea isn't it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 1999 Report Share Posted August 14, 1999 Hi : Yeah, the smoking thing got me too... I quit a few years ago, although I really enjoy a nice cigar once in a while. I remember having the " have I really sunk to this " feeling, and once I asked some people from my home group to pose outside the clubhouse and I took a picture... then I compared that photo to pictures of my drinking friends. All of my drinking friends looked healthier. Most of them are successful today, and they were worse drinkers than I was, but somehow they grew out of it. Apple > > I remember the early days in A.A. when I would sit around at their tables > and think. I wondered to myself how it was that I got myself in such a > ragged position that caused me to end up in their midst. Sure, I had a > drinking problem and yes I was out of control with that behavior but now I > had to " surrender " (suggested) my will and my life over to the care of a > god. I sat and listened to all the war stories and general dysfunction in > their lives in a cloud of cigarette smoke again saying to myself, " have I > really reached this horrible level in my life " , " am I like these people? " > Today I have fortunately discovered that I am not the " duck " in the middle. > I have the power to change my bad habits if I choose and I can show my > humaness by making mistakes. > > Why is it that, in N.A., they profoundly profess to be free from drugs cite > years of " clean time " and then step out the door and light up a cigarette. > What is this suggesting to the young peope that come to these meetings? > What is the purpose of steppism anyway? I challenged a person on this issue > and an N.A. wanna be guru stepped in and said to the gentleman I was > speaking with " you can't argue with ignorance " meaning I was ignorant on the > issue. Shit, I used to smoke for 25 years!! > > Just a few thoughts, > > > Re: 's challenge > > > > , I had no idea you held the position of officer!! Oh.. what have > > we done... I propose a change to the name for the millenium > > convention... > > > > " Pass it Over in the 21st Century " What do you think? > > > > or " Please Pass the Potatoes in the 21st Century " At least potatoes > > have nutritional value... > > Apple > > > > > > > I just got some AA stuff in the mail since I used to be GSR. The > > > International is in Minneapolis June 29-July 2, 2000. Theme: " Pass It > > > On-Into the 21st. Century. " > > > A chilling idea isn't it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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